Kog45:
My man am not blaming him.My point is that a lot don't rate his performance either positive or negative in WAFU or CHAN cos main focus is main super eagles.

Icon4s:


The thing is we are always too quick to push away an old player when you see a new player even if the new player is untested. How can someone prefer Agbo to Omeruo?
A new player that has no pedigree would always appeal to them more than a proven player.

Some say I am resistant to changes and stuffs like that. If left to some even Mikel Agu would have replaced Mikel Obi.

Odunayaw:
I now get your point
but in my honest opinion all the wafu & chan was/would be like a learning curve.

Kog45:
Ha Mikel Agu no go area for me,just too glaring, it has been long i see super eagles player jittery like Agu against Zambia in the first half,thanks to Ndidi for shielding him in the second half.

elunico:
I have a question to ask. Is this the time to go about "looking for the best?" or is this the time for us to "bring out the best in what we already have?"

Kratoss, Kog45, Safarigirl, Mujtahida, TheGoodJoe, Komekn, Jihady, Icon4s, Icon79, Soetanoreoluwa, elyte89, Goke7, Jobie, Forgiveness, Somehow, goldfish80, Tbaba1234 + others who's got a thing to say.

Kog45:
Yes,we just needs to watch the CHAN coming up in morocco coz we have Ezenwa in the team.

isan:
Uduokhai only have to say yes to Rorh and he is off to russia

Icon4s:


I pray we beat Poland in March to make up for the Ranking points we'll drop from participating in CHAN.
Hahaha.

Too bad the only players we will be looking out for are Ezenwa and maybe Ajiboye. No out field players to look out for.

O pari *in icon79's voice*

Icon4s:


Egwuekwe was already an integral part of the team and even featured at the 2013 confederations cup due to injury to Omeruo.

Coaches don't just hastily drop their players like that.

tbaba1234:
Ofoedu Hatrick in Turkey


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bh_UJQJ4_Yc&sns=tw

Mujtahida:

I think Keshi is good tactically because if he could qualify for the second round with that kind of team then I salute his tactical sagacity.

Kog45:
My man it has always been 50 50 Barca and Chelsea,so why bye bye

Mujtahida:

The bolded is precisely well put. There's a kind of cheap tactics some are using on this thread: we take any category like youthfulness, team spirit, experience, clubside, performance, old legs, homebased, foreign born to set up totalitarian criteria. When you call for Martins team youth will attack you, when you call for young players, team experience will attack you sometimes with valid reasons but most times with emotion and sentiments cos they simply just love their category.

Do you know I once argued strenuously against the invitation of Martins but I had to re-evaluate my stance for four reasons: 1)we need at least one more attacker(2) Martins was performing at par with Ighalo in the same league (3) it's just an invitation for God sakes (4) the overall goal of glory for the team should override my personal preference and sentiments.

You see those categories I mentioned above? There are our equivalents on this thread of the tribes and tribalism issue that has bedevilled us as a nation. Tribe of youth doesn't agree with tribe of experience etc. Meanwhile we forget that what should guide our discussions is performance. Will youth help us post quality performance? Will experience help us? Will the home based help us? Will the foreign born help us? A team is not youth, home based, foreign based, team spirit solely as criterias in themselves but all of these criterias in good measure but performance trumps them all because football is a performance sports and that's what will be recorded not all the other criteria. If we like we take all the youths, if they fail to perform we will feel the pain like we did after the SA defeat. If we like let's take all the experienced players, if they fail to perform experience will not give us any satisfaction like it has never done in tourneys we took experienced players to and failed to perform. If we like let us swoon over team spirit, about chemistry if we don't perform that team chemistry will turn sour in our belle.

A team is a pot of soup being cooked for public consumption not personal consumption. It needs many ingredient to make it sweet. Let's those who love salt not say oil is not good and let those who don't like pepper say onion is all we need to make the soup sweet.

All categories must be carefully filtered through the sieve of what will give us optimal performance.

terzurum5:

Who is he going to bench please?

terzurum5:

Who is he going to bench please?

Kog45:
Ighalo 95% and Musa and Simeon Moses 100%?,also Etebo 80%? and you gave Mikel Agu 40% though i don't rate him,where is Ajiboye and you are having Aiyenugba and Maduka in % rating.What of Omeruo cos i see Efe Ambrose and Uduokhai in your rating.Cool rating

Kog45:
thegoodjoe hope you remember vividly when i told you sometimes ago to go back to sport section that you are not needed here(political thread)

This is one of the reason, the political thread is another thing entirely and if care is not taken you say what you are not supposed to say cos guys their are ready to frustrate you with their comments so sometimes better to read and leave.

I was on general thread yesterday and a moniker said something about Pastor Abiodun Fatoyinbo of COZA and i was forced to reply against my wish cos Pastor Fatoyinbo is a great childhood friend,we went to the same schools in neighborhood and went to the same university, very close pal but seeing somebody telling me he knows him very well and try to ridicule him with lies,i just need to come out and say stopped you don't know him and the moniker refused to press further.

So sometimes better to read and leave cos some of you guys here are popular through this thread and any of your comment you make out of annoyance guys are ready to use it against you.

Mujtahida:

The bolded is precisely well put. There's a kind of cheap tactics some are using on this thread: we take any category like youthfulness, team spirit, experience, clubside, performance, old legs, homebased, foreign born to set up totalitarian criteria. When you call for Martins team youth will attack you, when you call for young players, team experience will attack you sometimes with valid reasons but most times with emotion and sentiments cos they simply just love their category.

Do you know I once argued strenuously against the invitation of Martins but I had to re-evaluate my stance for four reasons: 1)we need at least one more attacker(2) Martins was performing at par with Ighalo in the same league (3) it's just an invitation for God sakes (4) the overall goal of glory for the team should override my personal preference and sentiments.

You see those categories I mentioned above? There are our equivalents on this thread of the tribes and tribalism issue that has bedevilled us as a nation. Tribe of youth doesn't agree with tribe of experience etc. Meanwhile we forget that what should guide our discussions is performance. Will youth help us post quality performance? Will experience help us? Will the home based help us? Will the foreign born help us? A team is not youth, home based, foreign based, team spirit solely as criterias in themselves but all of these criterias in good measure but performance trumps them all because football is a performance sports and that's what will be recorded not all the other criteria. If we like we take all the youths, if they fail to perform we will feel the pain like we did after the SA defeat. If we like let's take all the experienced players, if they fail to perform experience will not give us any satisfaction like it has never done in tourneys we took experienced players to and failed to perform. If we like let us swoon over team spirit, about chemistry if we don't perform that team chemistry will turn sour in our belle.

A team is a pot of soup being cooked for public consumption not personal consumption. It needs many ingredient to make it sweet. Let's those who love salt not say oil is not good and let those who don't like pepper say onion is all we need to make the soup sweet.

All categories must be carefully filtered through the sieve of what will give us optimal performance.

Kog45:
I wonder o.Some like this foreign born cos of fine boy face.I know a moniker who like handsome players making the team, players like Mikel, Awaziem, Ekong,Iwobi,Ighalo.

isan:
Maybe rorh like handsome face also that's why he is running helter skelter after uduokhai

goldfish80:

I don't think we will loose points playing CHAN. The last I checked, there was ranking points earned for playing in major tournaments. CHAN is a recognised CAF and FiFA tournament.
We Lost valuable ranking points for not qualifying for 2 AFCONs.
mm
Just 2 wins in CHAN will boost those ranking points.

Icon4s:


Ordinary qualifiers for CHAN that we lost to Benin it negated the 4-0 win and 1-1 draw we had with Cameroon. Look at the other teams in our group, any attempt to draw one we drop be that. It means we must secure the 9points from that group to start with .

isan:
Nigeria players and their chances of making 23 man list for the world cup

Francis uzoho - 50%
Dele alampasu - 30% 50%
Enyeama - 50% 100%
Mikel obi 100%
John ogu 70%
Ndidi 100%
Balogun 100%
Akpeyi 40%
Ezenwa 50%
Martins 30% 50%
Agu 40%
Ekong 100%
Awaziem 100%
Ebuehi 60%
Shehu 100%
Kayode 30% 0%
Onyekuru 60% 50%
Onazi 100%
Etebo 80%
Iwobi 100%
Iheanacho 100%
Ahmed musa 100%
Victor Moses 100%
Ighalo 95% 100%
Ola aina 50%
Idowu 70% 100%
Nwakali 10%
Simon Moses 100%
Osaze 5%
Uduokhai 50%
Uche agbo 50%
Elcheljile 70% 100%
Anderson esiti 20%
Efe Ambrose 20%
Maduka okoye 10%
Nwakeme 50%
Ryan sanusi 1%
Abdul ajagun 1%
Tiago ilori 1%
Sone aluko 20% 50%
Osimhen 5% 50%
Dessers 5%
Success 30% 50%
Raheem lawal 10%
Aiyenugba 20%
Brown ideye 5%
Ik uche 2%
Bonaventure 20%
Bazee 30% 100%
Tammy Abraham If he change his mind 0.00000%

Icon4s:


Ordinary qualifiers for CHAN that we lost to Benin it negated the 4-0 win and 1-1 draw we had with Cameroon. Look at the other teams in our group, any attempt to draw one we drop be that. It means we must secure the 9points from that group to start with .

Mujtahida:

The bolded is precisely well put. There's a kind of cheap tactics some are using on this thread: we take any category like youthfulness, team spirit, experience, clubside, performance, old legs, homebased, foreign born to set up totalitarian criteria. When you call for Martins team youth will attack you, when you call for young players, team experience will attack you sometimes with valid reasons but most times with emotion and sentiments cos they simply just love their category.

Do you know I once argued strenuously against the invitation of Martins but I had to re-evaluate my stance for four reasons: 1)we need at least one more attacker(2) Martins was performing at par with Ighalo in the same league (3) it's just an invitation for God sakes (4) the overall goal of glory for the team should override my personal preference and sentiments.

You see those categories I mentioned above? There are our equivalents on this thread of the tribes and tribalism issue that has bedevilled us as a nation. Tribe of youth doesn't agree with tribe of experience etc. Meanwhile we forget that what should guide our discussions is performance. Will youth help us post quality performance? Will experience help us? Will the home based help us? Will the foreign born help us? A team is not youth, home based, foreign based, team spirit solely as criterias in themselves but all of these criterias in good measure but performance trumps them all because football is a performance sports and that's what will be recorded not all the other criteria. If we like we take all the youths, if they fail to perform we will feel the pain like we did after the SA defeat. If we like let's take all the experienced players, if they fail to perform experience will not give us any satisfaction like it has never done in tourneys we took experienced players to and failed to perform. If we like let us swoon over team spirit, about chemistry if we don't perform that team chemistry will turn sour in our belle.

A team is a pot of soup being cooked for public consumption not personal consumption. It needs many ingredient to make it sweet. Let's those who love salt not say oil is not good and let those who don't like pepper say onion is all we need to make the soup sweet.

All categories must be carefully filtered through the sieve of what will give us optimal performance.

Mujtahida:

I watched the interview he had on channels and I watched that of Oliseh. The analysts on channels said both of them are to blame. My position based on what I watched is that none of them is to blame. We just had two people misunderstanding each other. Oliseh gave certain context that made me understand the issues. Both of them acted based on their misunderstood positions.

kennysville:
Friends, Countrymen, Nairalanders!

I said some time ago about this issue of goal keeper is the least of our worries right now and time will prove this to be correct. A few posts ago, I asked us a question, which would you prefer between a bad goalkeeper, strong attack, and strong defence OR a good goalkeeper, good defence , bad attack. No on has been able to respond.

I will say it again, the goal keepin department is the least of our worries right now considering the fact that if we play a brand of attacking football heavily based on possession, our goal keepers may largely be untested in a competitive match.

What should be our major concern right now is how to get at least 2 replacements for Mikel before the world cup starts and start blendin them in. Which footballer has vision? Which player has accurate passes ? And can hold the midfield as well. I have said it before whether sarcastically or whatever, we can play without a goalie. Let us worry about someone to deputize for mikel. Scouts should come up with names of quality players that can do ball distribution. We have seen good goalies being messed up by a bad defence before so dont make it look like if Enyeama keeps the goal, he aint gonna concede.

June is almost here. Close ur eyes and open it and the world cup is upon us. Wake up everyone and stop debating what will not in the end matter. The sad news is our opponents are also analysing us. I dare say they even know this thread exists. We are the ones giving them the exposé on our team. They know what to do to take out Mikel. And once Mikel is out, the sting i our attack is gone. We are here debating goalies..... ok O.

I rest my case

Icon4s:


You need experience in the goalkeepers department more than any other department. Goal keepers get better with age. Same goes to some extent with defenders.

For the attack I don't care much about experience. All I just need to have at least 1-3 years of professional football at the senior club level. I don't tolerate academy players any where near the senior national team.

For the attacking section I prefer players that are young and vibrant I have even gone ahead to give the age at which strikers start declining. Any striker that falls outside that age bracket is no longer appealing to me. This is also connected to why market value of most strikers decline as they age.

Also I prefer experience over youth in the defense. Especially CBs.

These are my preferences right from the start of this thread and that has not changed. There is no ethnic, religious or political colorations to it.

Both youths and experience are needed in a team. But some departments need the experience more than others. That has been my point from day one.

goldfish80:


I don't agree with your second paragraph. We are not a heavy possession team, rather we are a solid counter attacking unit.
Zambia, Algeria and Argentina had more ball possession than us, going by our last 3 games.

kennysville:
Friends, Countrymen, Nairalanders!

I said some time ago about this issue of goal keeper is the least of our worries right now and time will prove this to be correct. A few posts ago, I asked us a question, which would you prefer between a bad goalkeeper, strong attack, and strong defence OR a good goalkeeper, good defence , bad attack. No on has been able to respond.

I will say it again, the goal keepin department is the least of our worries right now considering the fact that if we play a brand of attacking football heavily based on possession, our goal keepers may largely be untested in a competitive match.

What should be our major concern right now is how to get at least 2 replacements for Mikel before the world cup starts and start blendin them in. Which footballer has vision? Which player has accurate passes ? And can hold the midfield as well. I have said it before whether sarcastically or whatever, we can play without a goalie. Let us worry about someone to deputize for mikel. Scouts should come up with names of quality players that can do ball distribution. We have seen good goalies being messed up by a bad defence before so dont make it look like if Enyeama keeps the goal, he aint gonna concede.

June is almost here. Close ur eyes and open it and the world cup is upon us. Wake up everyone and stop debating what will not in the end matter. The sad news is our opponents are also analysing us. I dare say they even know this thread exists. We are the ones giving them the exposé on our team. They know what to do to take out Mikel. And once Mikel is out, the sting i our attack is gone. We are here debating goalies..... ok O.

I rest my case

goldfish80:


I don't agree with your second paragraph. We are not a heavy possession team, rather we are a solid counter attacking unit.
Zambia, Algeria and Argentina had more ball possession than us, going by our last 3 games.