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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 8:07pm On Dec 12, 2017
Icon4s:


Continue defending mediocrity.

Firstly, making a mistake can never make u mediocre. This can help us to be more attentive to details. One thing about me is that I live in the real world and that mean I know we can never sack the NFF so why should I kill myself about something that will eventually get swept under the rug?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 8:17pm On Dec 12, 2017
mank1234:


They'll give it to a rival team in another group, like Ghana. LOL

Cape Verde made an error like this that cost them last world cup though they also benefited from same error. Cape Verde initially topped their group after they were awarded 6 points against Equatorial guinea but later lost 3 points to Tunisia, ensuring their elimination in 2nd round.

Things like this can easily be automated with a database and a simple programming from Computer Village. How come we hardly hear of issues like this outside Africa?

Real Madrid had this issue when they got kicked out of Copa del Rey. New Zealand also missed the last Olympics because of something like this so we are not isolated.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mank1234(m): 8:20pm On Dec 12, 2017
BascoVanVeli:


Firstly, making a mistake can never make u mediocre. This can help us to be more attentive to details. One thing about me is that I live in the real world and that mean I know we can never sack the NFF so why should I kill myself about something that will eventually get swept under the rug?

Very true. Anyone could have made such mistake.
My question is:
1) Is cards in qualifier carried forward to the world cup?
If yes, then the error is glaring.
If no, then the error is not so glaring cos the person might have thought that the stages are different.
2) is card in one competition transferable to another competition? Example, AFCON and world cup

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 8:23pm On Dec 12, 2017
Joebie:
Both, until we have a GREAT bench.
We are going against teams with great depth. We cannot afford to lose big teams because of our poor bench anymore. No stone should be left unturned.

Modified
Like I would always say, apples and oranges. Looking for reinforcement will not hinder your trying to get the best out of your players.



In the pursuit of the best we keep the best of what we have until we find better or best.

Team improvement is not static but continous you can still improve as you still seek the best and better.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 8:23pm On Dec 12, 2017
mank1234:


Very true. Anyone could have made such mistake.
My question is:
1) Is cards in qualifier carried forward to the world cup?
If yes, then the error is glaring.
If no, then the error is not so glaring cos the person might have thought that the stages are different.
2) is card in one competition transferable to another competition? Example, AFCON and world cup

Anyone can make such mistake. Yet out of 20 teams in the qualifiers, only Nigeria made that mistake.

Abi, other teams did not get yellow carded in the first phase. Negligience caused this.

We should not excuse this.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mank1234(m): 8:25pm On Dec 12, 2017
BascoVanVeli:


Real Madrid had this issue when they got kicked out of Copa del Rey. New Zealand also missed the last Olympics because of something like this so we are not isolated.

Thanks for those examples. I only hope we didn't make another mistake. We should start digging into matches we drew as well in case of eventuality.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 8:30pm On Dec 12, 2017
Yes new competition can help in bringing out the best in what we have

forgiveness:


It is indeed about bringing out the best from the best. Kpoin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 8:30pm On Dec 12, 2017
BascoVanVeli:


because they made an error. Oya carry ur AK47 and go and kill them.
the way holleir than thou peeps talks here baffles me... of all the nff good deeds all these years..from securities, good playable pitches,good management, and many more...now this mistake ,all of a sudden we 're calling for their head...

This is pure savage and hypocrisy to me...like they 're saints and never done mistakes in their lives and fields before...

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mank1234(m): 8:30pm On Dec 12, 2017
tbaba1234:


Anyone can make such mistake. Yet out of 20 teams in the qualifiers, only Nigeria made that mistake.

Abi, other teams did not get yellow carded in the first phase. Negligience caused this.

We should not excuse this.

Irrespective of whether the person has saved us a millions times? What do you do the players that score own goals? Remove them from the team because of the error?

It's possible other teams made same error unnoticed.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 8:32pm On Dec 12, 2017
mank1234:


They'll give it to a rival team in another group, like Ghana. LOL

Cape Verde made an error like this that cost them last world cup though they also benefited from same error. Cape Verde initially topped their group after they were awarded 6 points against Equatorial guinea but later lost 3 points to Tunisia, ensuring their elimination in 2nd round.

Things like this can easily be automated with a database and a simple programming from Computer Village. How come we hardly hear of issues like this outside Africa?
how bout realmadrid been kicked out of copa del Rey last season for fielding ineligible player??
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 8:34pm On Dec 12, 2017
When we didn’t qualify God didn’t love us.God don’t love italy, USA etc

Kwantinue

terzurum5:

No one will loose his/her job.
How many of us here took note of it?
It's just a call for all of us to sit up.







De way wey this God take love Nigeria and the Super Eagles ehn
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 8:35pm On Dec 12, 2017
It's because you have qualified, that's why some of you are saying this. What if that match was a decider?
mank1234:


Irrespective of whether the person has saved us a millions times? What do you do the players that score own goals? Remove them from the team because of the error?

It's possible other teams made same error unnoticed.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 8:35pm On Dec 12, 2017
mank1234:


Irrespective of whether the person has saved us a millions times? What do you do the players that score own goals? Remove them from the team because of the error?

It's possible other teams made same error unnoticed.
thank u for this
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mank1234(m): 8:35pm On Dec 12, 2017
krattoss:
how bout realmadrid been kicked out of copa del Rey last season for fielding ineligible player??

Bascovanveli treated this earlier
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 8:35pm On Dec 12, 2017
mank1234:


Very true. Anyone could have made such mistake.
My question is:
1) Is cards in qualifier carried forward to the world cup?
If yes, then the error is glaring.
If no, then the error is not so glaring cos the person might have thought that the stages are different.
2) is card in one competition transferable to another competition? Example, AFCON and world cup

Not sure about the first question but I am sure u can't carry cards across competitions.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 8:36pm On Dec 12, 2017
That's real Madrid, this is Nigeria and world cup. The most glorious football tournament on earth!
krattoss:
how bout realmadrid been kicked out of copa del Rey last season for fielding ineligible player??
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 8:36pm On Dec 12, 2017
somehow:
It's because you have qualified, that's why some of you are saying this. What if that match was a decider?
then we do what? Kill ourselves?
The highest we can do is wail for like a week then as usual life goes on
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Loogan(m): 8:37pm On Dec 12, 2017
NNF should let gernot choose his staff, guys like aloy agu and the retard who committed that player selection blunder should not even be in the under 23 coaching crew. After all the hard work done by the boys some stupid greedy incompetent staff you cannot do the simplest of jobs napped�, costing us 3points what a horrible mistake what kind of people are ruling this Nigerian.
With this current mediocre staff we have I don't see u fulfilling our potential.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 8:37pm On Dec 12, 2017
somehow:
That's real Madrid, this is Nigeria and world cup. The most glorious football tournament on earth!
nobody is past mistake...that's the point bro
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 8:38pm On Dec 12, 2017
mank1234:


Thanks for those examples. I only hope we didn't make another mistake. We should start digging into matches we drew as well in case of eventuality.

U r welcome and I hope the same also. I am glad we can actually learn from our mistake without having to pay too much from it.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 8:40pm On Dec 12, 2017
Mainz used Balogun as RCD in a 3 man defence.

Was expecting him to be in the middle of the defense.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 8:40pm On Dec 12, 2017
Some mistakes are too expensive a mistake. A suspension should happen to deter others from being complacent with their job.
krattoss:
nobody is past mistake...that's the point bro
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 8:41pm On Dec 12, 2017
one person is responsible. Someone needs be detailed in doing their jobs. But are we really surprised? It’s mever in our culture to take our jobs seriously.

But you made a valid point. How come we all missed it? It was Because that match was a preliminary match. Most of us see only the group stage as the qualification stage. How many people remember Efe Ambrose contributed in our goals tally until I mentioned it here? Same reason

terzurum5:

No one will loose his/her job.
How many of us here took note of it?
It's just a call for all of us to sit up.







De way wey this God take love Nigeria and the Super Eagles ehn

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mank1234(m): 8:41pm On Dec 12, 2017
somehow:
It's because you have qualified, that's why some of you are saying this. What if that match was a decider?

I'll be sad and I'll blame him for it but I'll not call for his dismissal. I'm sure him too won't be happy with himself.

One player is famously blamed for French inability to qualify for US'94 world cup. Some forgave him, some haven't even up till today. Such is life.

I think it's wrong to sack someone for an UNINTENTIONAL and NON-REPETITIVE error
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 8:44pm On Dec 12, 2017
mank1234:


Irrespective of whether the person has saved us a millions times? What do you do the players that score own goals? Remove them from the team because of the error?

It's possible other teams made same error unnoticed.

They are not saving you.. They are getting paid to do a job with taxpayers' money nonetheless. It is not charity.

This is how we endure mediocrity. There has to be some disciplinary action.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 8:44pm On Dec 12, 2017
Someone like you would have been singing another song if it was the other way round. Make I just dey look una.

More simpler mistakes have been made in organised climes and we see how those involve resign on their own. Anyways it has happened and NFF have said the culprit won't go unpublished.

2006 unbeaten record spoilt and 1990 unbeaten record to Alrgeria also lost. Something the SE will take years to rebuild!
We're watching.

krattoss:
then we do what? Kill ourselves?
The highest we can do is wail for like a week then as usual life goes on
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 8:45pm On Dec 12, 2017
Lol... Now I remember that Younde game we should have won. I and a few of us were making “noise” then. We just got lucky.

Icon4s:


Our ranking will now plunge further to like 60th. Thank God the draws have been made already, else na pot5 we for dey.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 8:45pm On Dec 12, 2017
Easier said than done. Some of you here would have even carried placard to Nff office demanding everyone's resignation. Make some of una dey try form "angel" o.
mank1234:


I'll be sad and I'll blame him for it but I'll not call for his dismissal. I'm sure him too won't be happy with himself.

One player is famously blamed for French inability to qualify for US'94 world cup. Some forgave him, some haven't even up till today. Such is life.

I think it's wrong to sack someone for an UNINTENTIONAL and NON-REPETITIVE error
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 8:47pm On Dec 12, 2017
Let them put me at the job you will see a whole different way of doing things.
But I will give up whatever I have and start from somewhere for Nigeria.


terzurum5:

Same way the thing took the person unaware is the same way it would have happened to anyone of us if we were in charged.

If you doubt me then, how come it did not come to our notice.

Cc: tbaba1234

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 8:47pm On Dec 12, 2017
somehow:
Some mistakes are too expensive a mistake. A suspension should happen to deter others from being complacent with their job.
u guys sometimes analyse some certain scenarios in life like its mathematics. .

A suspension will do nada to upcoming mistakes...now take a look at this. ..

How many players have been sent off for hard tackles and fights during matches?? Does it stop subsequent fights and tackles from erupting??
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 8:48pm On Dec 12, 2017
Usually without an official review and decision to drop all accumulated cards before the next stage, every card still stands.
kennysville:
I dont think it is fair blaming NFF. The euphoria of dead rubber match got the better of everyone including yours truly.
But wait O! Is nt that match the qualification match befor the group stages? Why would the card count in the second phase to which Nigeria progressed?

I think this fifa rules need to be explained clearly. Let us hope they werent lying in wait to see if we were gonna slip up. I foresee them doing more digging. Was this necessary at this tym? After world cup draws had been done? I am beginning to think Fifa feels Nigeria na bad market for the world cup O!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 8:48pm On Dec 12, 2017
Maybe because we aren't paid to do the job and only doing what we are doing so far for the love and fun of it. You dare not miss such a vital info in a private company and not be ready to face fire. Common lateness to work in a private settings dey earn some people sack letter not to talk of making the company lose a contract they already won based on lapses.

Nigerians and mediocrity.
Joebie:
one person is responsible. Someone needs be detailed in doing their jobs. But are we really surprised? It’s mever in our culture to take our jobs seriously.

But you made a valid point. How come we all missed it? It was Because that match was a preliminary match. Most of us see only the group stage as the qualification stage. How many people remember Efe Ambrose contributed in our goals tally until I mentioned it here? Same reason

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