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Why Are There No Churches In Saudi Arabia But There Are Mosques In Israel by Nobody: 11:26pm On Dec 12, 2017
Because Saudi Arabia is the world's most religiously intolerant country I have ever heard of. Even Iran has a better record of religious tolerance . Iran hates Israel, but they got synagogues, especially of Mordechai and Esther in whose honour Purim is celebrated.
Even my country’s eternal rival Pakistan boasts of a better record. They are literally a 16th century Wahabi radical fortress living in a 21st century world.
Some of their incredibly racist and apartheid laws include:
On the other hand, Israel, which is frequently accused by the Arabs of racism and apartheid:
P.S: I am comparing Muslims within proper, globally recognized Israeli territory and Israel's policy within the same territory with those practiced by Saudi Arabia. Please, please do not make it a forum for Israeli-Palestinian conflict generation. That is another topic entirely.

Apostasy, atheism and blasphemy carry the death by beheading penalty.
Non-muslims cannot openly practice their faith. Any temple, church or synagogue constructed is at risk of being demolished and the architects can be sent to jail. Classic example of religious apartheid.
Non-Muslims cannot enter Mecca and Medina. This is surely not what Islam teaches mankind. This is a flawed interpretation of religion propagated by the Saudis.
Women cannot drive, vote or apply for jobs in public service and government. They also must always be covered from head to toe at all times while roaming in public, and must always be accompanied by a male member. Or else they can be caught by moral police.
Malls, shopping complexes and restaurants are gender-segregated.


No religion teaches the disrespect of women, and something at this level is just sad.
The regime is 100% partial towards Muslims, with no respect for other religions whatsoever.
They have committed some of the worst war crimes by indiscriminately blanket-bombing Yemen, that has killed thousands of civilians.
Their radical Wahabi ideology is the main reason why India is fighting radicalised terrorism in the Kashmir valley.
They raise and indoctrinate people to pursue jihad against “kaafirs”. Many Muslims in India and other moderate countries hate Saudi Arabia for this.


They are not even tolerant towards Shia Muslims. There have been various instances of violence and hate crimes against Shias, that puts them at odds with Iran.
Saudi Arabia has banned chess, because apparently it teaches you to go against a king, which is not acceptable to them. *Slow Claps*. Chess is such a beautiful game that teaches you strategy and planning, either in business, office, politics or military. Banning this means that there are some common sense issues.
Saudi Arabia has banned Pokemon as well. This is because apparently, the stars you get as EXP points resemble the Star of David, the symbol for Zionism.
Allows free practice of one's religion, as long as it doesn't infringe upon someone's else's religious practices. Mind you, this is within Israel proper, and I'm not talking about the occupied West Bank. And of course, these rights are for those Muslims who are Israeli citizens. For Palestinians in the occupied West Bank, it is a whole different story, many details of which I do not agree on.
The Jew-Muslim rift depends on the place too. Cosmopolitan cities like Tel Aviv and Haifa have Jews and Arabs mingling, working, playing and partying together like everyday citizens. These places boast of a very pan-Jewish-Arab culture. However, I must emphasize that the rift is very wide in religious places like Jerusalem and also in places like Hebron, Jericho and Bethlehem in the occupied West Bank.
Has ruled that only Muslims can pray at the Dome of the Rock and al-Aqsa mosque. Any other religion is forbidden to do so, even Jews. This is a pre-negotiated agreement between Israel, the Palestinians and the Jordanians.
Has hundreds of mosques within it's sovereign territories, and Muslims are freely allowed to pray.
Although it is not compulsory for Muslim Israelis to serve in the IDF, Muslims can serve voluntary and their service and working conditions are at par with Israeli Jews.

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Re: Why Are There No Churches In Saudi Arabia But There Are Mosques In Israel by Nobody: 11:28pm On Dec 12, 2017
Is because of you and I. Pray and take action
Re: Why Are There No Churches In Saudi Arabia But There Are Mosques In Israel by cyrilomoh: 11:38pm On Dec 12, 2017

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Re: Why Are There No Churches In Saudi Arabia But There Are Mosques In Israel by bedspread: 11:48pm On Dec 12, 2017
Who told u Saudi has no Churches? They ahv bro..... some Nigerian churches are der live...

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Re: Why Are There No Churches In Saudi Arabia But There Are Mosques In Israel by Nobody: 12:01am On Dec 13, 2017
bedspread:
Who told u Saudi has no Churches? They ahv bro..... some Nigerian churches are der live...



You're a liar

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Re: Why Are There No Churches In Saudi Arabia But There Are Mosques In Israel by tripplephi: 1:00am On Dec 13, 2017
there are UNDERGROUND CHURCHES in Saudi Arabia. I have seen them.
Re: Why Are There No Churches In Saudi Arabia But There Are Mosques In Israel by Nobody: 6:48am On Dec 13, 2017
bedspread:
Who told u Saudi has no Churches? They ahv bro..... some Nigerian churches are der live...
Nigerian churches where?,I guess U just came back from Pluto, or you lying because the easiest way to get killed is claiming being a Christian in Saudi Arabia becos it is express killing no trial at all.

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Re: Why Are There No Churches In Saudi Arabia But There Are Mosques In Israel by Nobody: 6:50am On Dec 13, 2017
tripplephi:
there are UNDERGROUND CHURCHES in Saudi Arabia. I have seen them.
Underground Churches? is that suppose to be? people suppose to be able to practice what they wanted freely, you are still echoing their religious intolerance and sentiment

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Re: Why Are There No Churches In Saudi Arabia But There Are Mosques In Israel by Nobody: 6:59am On Dec 13, 2017
bedspread:
Who told u Saudi has no Churches? They ahv bro..... some Nigerian churches are der live...

Name 15 churches you know in Saudi Arabia

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Re: Why Are There No Churches In Saudi Arabia But There Are Mosques In Israel by aieromon(m): 7:42am On Dec 13, 2017
Do you realise that 17.6% of the Israeli population practice Islam while only 2% practice Christianity? Even majority of the Christian folk are purely Arab.

As for Saudi Arabia,the government does not tolerate the open practice of any religion other than Sunni Islam. Shia Islam is not tolerated by the kingdom as well. It is very rare to see a Saudi citizen who is not a Muslim.

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Re: Why Are There No Churches In Saudi Arabia But There Are Mosques In Israel by Rashduct4luv(m): 7:49am On Dec 13, 2017
Saudi is an almost 99% Muslim country with full Islamic law. The citizens are almost entirely Muslim and most of the non-Muslims there are usually non-citizens who came for work. Is there an entirely Christian country with a christian law?

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Re: Why Are There No Churches In Saudi Arabia But There Are Mosques In Israel by aieromon(m): 7:54am On Dec 13, 2017
profolaolu:
Underground Churches? is that suppose to be? people suppose to be able to practice what they wanted freely, you are still echoing their religious intolerance and sentiment

The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia is an Islamic theocratic monarchy in which Sunni Islam is the official state religion based on firm Sharia law and non-Muslims are not allowed to hold Saudi citizenship. No law requires all citizens to be Muslim, but non-Muslims and many foreign and Saudi Muslims whose beliefs are deemed not to conform with the government’s interpretation of Islam must practice their religion in private and are vulnerable to discrimination, harassment, detention, and, for noncitizens, deportation. Blasphemy against Sunni Islam is also punishable by death, but the more common penalty is a long prison sentence.

Religious freedom is virtually non-existent. The Government does not provide legal recognition or protection for freedom of religion, and it is severely restricted in practice. As a matter of policy, the Government guarantees and protects the right to private worship for all, including non-Muslims who gather in homes for religious practice; however, this right is not always respected in practice and is not defined in law.

Sharia applies to all people inside Saudi Arabia, regardless of religion.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_religion_in_Saudi_Arabia

Saudi Arabia is not a secular state and does not claim to be one.

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Re: Why Are There No Churches In Saudi Arabia But There Are Mosques In Israel by bedspread: 10:25am On Dec 13, 2017
gimakon:


Name 15 churches you know in Saudi Arabia
I KNOW OF THE LORDS CHOSEN
Re: Why Are There No Churches In Saudi Arabia But There Are Mosques In Israel by Nobody: 10:31am On Dec 13, 2017
bedspread:
I KNOW OF THE LORDS CHOSEN

grin Chai, who do you this thing, e no go better for am.
Ok read here

Re: Why Are There No Churches In Saudi Arabia But There Are Mosques In Israel by bedspread: 10:36am On Dec 13, 2017
gimakon:


grin Chai, who do you this thing, e no go better for am.
Ok read here
i guess u saw meet in Private there...
Not here for argument
I know wat I know
Leave talk
Re: Why Are There No Churches In Saudi Arabia But There Are Mosques In Israel by Nobody: 10:39am On Dec 13, 2017
bedspread:
i guess u saw meet in Private there...
Not here for argument
I know wat I know
Leave talk

Islam is never a religion of peace. grin it pains you when we talk of Islam, but it is no where near peace. grin
Re: Why Are There No Churches In Saudi Arabia But There Are Mosques In Israel by bedspread: 10:44am On Dec 13, 2017
gimakon:


Islam is never a religion of peace. grin it pains you when we talk of Islam, but it is no where near peace. grin
ok........ no matter how Warrious they are, They must Hear the Gospel... and it's in there already
Re: Why Are There No Churches In Saudi Arabia But There Are Mosques In Israel by Nobody: 10:45am On Dec 13, 2017
bedspread:
ok........ no matter how Warrious they are, They must Hear the Gospel... and it's in there already

grin
Re: Why Are There No Churches In Saudi Arabia But There Are Mosques In Israel by spongeisback: 10:59am On Dec 13, 2017
Our resident christards won't call this persecution but when you've a different view from theirs they cry foul.


I will gladly donate so Adeboye aka God's mouth piece and oyedepo aka keeper of the keys of hell's gate to go preach there. The great comission wasn't meant for Africa,Europe, America and some parts of Asia. Go and win souls for Christ!
Re: Why Are There No Churches In Saudi Arabia But There Are Mosques In Israel by Nobody: 1:59pm On Dec 13, 2017
aieromon:


The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia is an Islamic theocratic monarchy in which Sunni Islam is the official state religion based on firm Sharia law and non-Muslims are not allowed to hold Saudi citizenship. No law requires all citizens to be Muslim, but non-Muslims and many foreign and Saudi Muslims whose beliefs are deemed not to conform with the government’s interpretation of Islam must practice their religion in private and are vulnerable to discrimination, harassment, detention, and, for noncitizens, deportation. Blasphemy against Sunni Islam is also punishable by death, but the more common penalty is a long prison sentence.

Religious freedom is virtually non-existent. The Government does not provide legal recognition or protection for freedom of religion, and it is severely restricted in practice. As a matter of policy, the Government guarantees and protects the right to private worship for all, including non-Muslims who gather in homes for religious practice; however, this right is not always respected in practice and is not defined in law.

Sharia applies to all people inside Saudi Arabia, regardless of religion.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_religion_in_Saudi_Arabia

Saudi Arabia is not a secular state and does not claim to be one.
And when Trump tried to ban Muslims U are crying foul like dog that fell inside water

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Re: Why Are There No Churches In Saudi Arabia But There Are Mosques In Israel by Nobody: 2:06pm On Dec 13, 2017
Rashduct4luv:
Saudi is an almost 99% Muslim country with full Islamic law. The citizens are almost entirely Muslim and most of the non-Muslims there are usually non-citizens who came for work. Is there an entirely Christian country with a christian law?

No because Christians are peace loving, friendly and have high level of tolerance as JESUS CHRIST preached not as Islamic sentiment,war, and hostility as their so called prophet preached even in Vatican, U are free as U wish
Re: Why Are There No Churches In Saudi Arabia But There Are Mosques In Israel by lovingJehovah: 2:08pm On Dec 13, 2017
Have you ever been there to tell? They only allow you to worship in private homes? Most of these Arab countries just build a spot and ask all Christians to worship there collectively. They have no respect for your religion. They do not care if you are Catholic or Protestant or Anglican or a Jehovah's witness. People living in that region make private arrangements and there is usually high-security alert around those Christian buildings while Mosques are built everywhere. A dangerous and unjust place to be in the world. They have no regard for human rights. And the locals are usually arrogant and proud.
bedspread:
Who told u Saudi has no Churches? They ahv bro..... some Nigerian churches are der live...

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Re: Why Are There No Churches In Saudi Arabia But There Are Mosques In Israel by aieromon(m): 2:30pm On Dec 13, 2017
profolaolu:
And when Trump tried to ban Muslims U are crying foul like dog that fell inside water

Next time,I suggest you research well before coming online to spew ignorant remarks.

Fact 1 - Israel has three major religions Judaism, Islam and Christianity. There are mosques in Israel because 17% of Israelis are Muslims.

Fact 2 - Saudi Arabia is not a secular state and the Qur'an is one of the pillars of their constitution. There are no churches in Saudi Arabia because the Constitution abhors all forms of religion (including Shia Islam) except for Sunni Islam.

You are worse than Jon Snow!!!

Re: Why Are There No Churches In Saudi Arabia But There Are Mosques In Israel by Rashduct4luv(m): 2:34pm On Dec 13, 2017
profolaolu:
No because Christians are peace loving, friendly and have high level of tolerance as JESUS CHRIST preached not as Islamic sentiment,war, and hostility as their so called prophet preached even in Vatican, U are free as U wish

I disagree with this. Matt 10:34 Jesus said: "Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword."

So all those killed in the old testament were killed by Jesus.

This also makes sense as Jesus was said to be part of God who commanded many killings...

He only became gentle when he became man.
Re: Why Are There No Churches In Saudi Arabia But There Are Mosques In Israel by hopefulLandlord: 3:59pm On Dec 13, 2017
cyrilomoh:
Islam does not entertain any religious that is not theirs while Christian give a chance to other believers. And Islam is have the higher population in Saudi.


Likes for Christian

Shares for Islam


Israel is not a Christian nation by any stretch of imagination

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Re: Why Are There No Churches In Saudi Arabia But There Are Mosques In Israel by Nobody: 11:11pm On Dec 13, 2017
Rashduct4luv:


I disagree with this. Matt 10:34 Jesus said: "Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword."

So all those killed in the old testament were killed by Jesus.

This also makes sense as Jesus was said to be part of God who commanded many killings...

He only became gentle when he became man.
I don't blame you Islam have blind,hatred and sentiment has devour you, you read only one verse to interpret the complete chapter, you didn't see when Jesus said if they sue U for ur coat.....,when they strike U on the right cheek....... when he said U can't revenge anything done to U,you have not read when he said pray for enemy and those that persecute and despitefully use you. The most horrible tragedy that happens to humanity is Islam, so awful and terrible

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Re: Why Are There No Churches In Saudi Arabia But There Are Mosques In Israel by Nobody: 11:15pm On Dec 13, 2017
hopefulLandlord:



Israel is not a Christian nation by any stretch of imagination
What about Vatican, Islam is a disaster, all Islamic countries are hostile to people Iran, somalia,Libya,Palestine, Iran,Saudi Arabia, UAE mention that Islamic country without prejudice, sentiment and hostility even in the northern part of Nigeria

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Re: Why Are There No Churches In Saudi Arabia But There Are Mosques In Israel by Nobody: 11:32pm On Dec 13, 2017
aieromon:


Next time,I suggest you research well before coming online to spew ignorant remarks.

Fact 1 - Israel has three major religions Judaism, Islam and Christianity. There are mosques in Israel because 17% of Israelis are Muslims.

Fact 2 - Saudi Arabia is not a secular state and the Qur'an is one of the pillars of their constitution. There are no churches in Saudi Arabia because the Constitution abhors all forms of religion (including Shia Islam) except for Sunni Islam.

You are worse than Jon Snow!!!
U are still justifying Islamic sentiment, intolerance and hostility, if Isreal was so rigid and hostile like Saudi Arabia, will there be any Muslim? Compare mexico,USA,Argentina and other predominant Christian nations with Islamic hostile nations and clear ur mind,if after U can see beyond sentiment that means ur case is above ordinary

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Re: Why Are There No Churches In Saudi Arabia But There Are Mosques In Israel by orisa37: 3:00am On Dec 14, 2017
Israel is God. She can accommodate. Saudi Arabia is satanic. She cannot accommodate.

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Re: Why Are There No Churches In Saudi Arabia But There Are Mosques In Israel by Rashduct4luv(m): 4:58am On Dec 14, 2017
profolaolu:
I don't blame you Islam have blind,hatred and sentiment has devour you, you read only one verse to interpret the complete chapter, you didn't see when Jesus said if they sue U for ur coat.....,when they strike U on the right cheek....... when he said U can't revenge anything done to U,you have not read when he said pray for enemy and those that persecute and despitefully use you. The most horrible tragedy that happens to humanity is Islam, so awful and terrible

So how can we interpret the sword verse in the Bible?
Re: Why Are There No Churches In Saudi Arabia But There Are Mosques In Israel by Nobody: 11:18pm On Dec 14, 2017
Rashduct4luv:


So how can we interpret the sword verse in the Bible?
That is for people that never accept Christ when He comes back
Re: Why Are There No Churches In Saudi Arabia But There Are Mosques In Israel by Amberon11: 4:22am On Dec 15, 2017
This is what the sword verse means.

It means people will hate you (Christians for my sake) and will try to persecute you and kill you for no reason other than me. This is exactly what is going on all over the world as Christians are being killed simply for being Christians.
Rashduct4luv:


So how can we interpret the sword verse in the Bible?

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