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My Grandfather Was A Native Doctor: Is The Generational Curse Phenomenon True? by intrepidJ: 9:46am On Dec 14, 2017 |
I am from Edo State but born and bred in Lagos, with no ties to my state of origin. My grandfather however was a native doctor, and as a kid before the age of 7 or 8 I remember my father taking me to some dirty native doctors place where I am sometimes made to take a shower. I have had incisions made on my body with blades after which some dark substance is robed on it. My dad is a born again Christian now, prays and fasts often. My question is will the FOUR generational curses mentioned in the bibe affect me?even though my father who is now born again must have broken the curse with prayers? My life is a mess. I suffered untold emotional abuse growing up. My adult hood is no different. I am victimized everywhere, people take undue advantage and make mockery of me. What I find really bizzare is people coming together to gossip about me where ever I got I find this very odd, I am always hated, despised, lied against, unjustly accused. It goes on and on. I'm 34 now, will likely never get married because I have OCD and am Schizotipal, but i can live with that. But i am currently facing spiritual affliction by some bastards who accuse me of dabbling Into witchcraft and bewitching them. An entire family have waged a spiritual war on me, for what I did not do. Heres the puzzling thing. I go on my knees and cry to God for help. God always responds immediately, but then they come back. I was made to understand that they are trying to take my life but God almighty stands in their way. At home I see cockroaches anywhere I am, in places they have no busines being there. When I play gospel songs by Paul Wilbur some thing strange happens, cockroaches starts coming out of their hidden places to die in my living room. There are birds all monitoring me each time I step out. I leave home and run to the hotel they still somehow locate me. Recently my toilets keeps getting clogged. If I fix it today within 48 hours it will mysteriously get clogged again, I fix it it repeats the circle. I have another toilet downstairs exactly the same phenomenon. It's gotten so bad I cannot even use the toilets anymore, so I left the house. There us this bizzare smell that permeates my house and as a consequences i have been forced to live in isolationist. I have no friends, it seems to me %80 of my friends are into juju or witchcraft. I was just watching a tape on monitoring spirits when I came across generational curses and its effect on generations as far down as the 4th generations. Could this be why I keep getting hated, lied about, gossiped about and taken advantage of? 7 Likes 1 Share |
Re: My Grandfather Was A Native Doctor: Is The Generational Curse Phenomenon True? by darkenkach(m): 9:53am On Dec 14, 2017 |
You don't know what you are missing. I wish my grandfather was a native Doctor and had giving the type of exposure you already have. 54 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: My Grandfather Was A Native Doctor: Is The Generational Curse Phenomenon True? by adadike281(f): 10:04am On Dec 14, 2017 |
Mynd 44, pls move to front page, let's help this guy pls. Go for deliverance. This type, na to go spend time with God at Awhum for 30 days. 18 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: My Grandfather Was A Native Doctor: Is The Generational Curse Phenomenon True? by Emmanystone: 10:11am On Dec 14, 2017 |
darkenkach:Satan has got you deceived. Whennhe is done using you, he'll dump you like a rag. 153 Likes 6 Shares |
Re: My Grandfather Was A Native Doctor: Is The Generational Curse Phenomenon True? by darkenkach(m): 10:12am On Dec 14, 2017 |
Emmanystone: Biko who is Satan? 31 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: My Grandfather Was A Native Doctor: Is The Generational Curse Phenomenon True? by Emmanystone: 10:27am On Dec 14, 2017 |
intrepidJ:Brother, you are a chosen vessel thats why you didn't just fall into satanism hook line and sinker. There's light around you, that's why satan is trying to frustrate you. If there was nothing good in you, he wouldn't fight. It now depends on your Will Power. What do you want?/ The Bible says, To whom (God or satan)/you yield yourself to, you become servant to.obey them. Decide what you want first. Deliverance begins with you Willingly determining where to stand. At least God has been gracious to show you that anytime you draw closer to him these phenominones changes, few have this grace. Now, the Bible says, With a heart we believe, and with our mouth confession is made unto salvation. What this means is that, if you believe in your heart and dont speak it out loud, you won't see your salvation. So, whatever you don't want to see, command it to go away in the name of Jesus. Begin with this. Walk to your toilet now if you are at home and speak to it. Say this, 'Toilet, i know you are an inanimate object, but i also know that my God is the God of all creation inanimates included'. You are made for me to use afterwards flush you down. I know nothing is wrong with you, so, from this moment, i will flush you and you will flush in Jesus name. Amen. Flush it it and leave, it may not automatically flush at that moment, keep doing it, and you'll see what will happen. But, if you do it doubting if it will happen, then forget it, it wouldn't. I will send you a PM, pls respond. 252 Likes 18 Shares |
Re: My Grandfather Was A Native Doctor: Is The Generational Curse Phenomenon True? by MhizzAJ(f): 10:30am On Dec 14, 2017 |
Lord have mercy Blessings and curses are real but this your case is kinda strong You need to fast and pray until something happens....Matt17:21 In fact go for deliverance 17 Likes 1 Share |
Re: My Grandfather Was A Native Doctor: Is The Generational Curse Phenomenon True? by intrepidJ: 10:33am On Dec 14, 2017 |
Emmanystone: How do I reach you? 8 Likes |
Re: My Grandfather Was A Native Doctor: Is The Generational Curse Phenomenon True? by iBlaze(m): 10:38am On Dec 14, 2017 |
op are u born again? do u believe u are delivered (not will be) in Christ? col 1:13 do u knw ur deliverance is frm all powers of darkness including generational curses? even though believers are delivered satan plays on d ignorance of some to oppress them... d only antidote to ignorance is knowledge so my 1st advice to u will be to arm urself with God's word. read all d bible says abt deliverance(heb. 2:14 etc) bth old nd new testaments so wen d devil comes u will b able 2 confront him wit d word like Jesus did two do u know u as a believer hav authority in Christ? we were created to hv dominion over all things (gen 1:26,28) so wenever u pray, do so with d mindset of a victor cos 'we are more than conquerors' hallelujah! third, speak wit ur pastor for other practical step and wise advice 17 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: My Grandfather Was A Native Doctor: Is The Generational Curse Phenomenon True? by Emmanystone: 11:37am On Dec 14, 2017 |
darkenkach:He is the one you serve but pretends you don't know him. 57 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: My Grandfather Was A Native Doctor: Is The Generational Curse Phenomenon True? by Emmanystone: 11:41am On Dec 14, 2017 |
intrepidJ:I have sent you a Pm, reply it 6 Likes |
Re: My Grandfather Was A Native Doctor: Is The Generational Curse Phenomenon True? by Emmanystone: 11:57am On Dec 14, 2017 |
MhizzAJ:Fasting and prayer is good, but salvation comes first. He needs a guidance to true salvation and someone to stand in with him. Satanist fast more than Christians too. If your enemy wants to hurt you, they tell him/her to fast and make declarations, just like you a Christian does. But we Christians take our faith for granted, the agents of satan don't. It takes the Will Power to fight off this entities. They don't go easily especially when the Will power was Willingly giving to them. His father handed him over to them, they have the legal right to keep him, but now he wants to go out, he can only succeed if he runs to a higher power. Isaiah:49: 24-25 Shall the prey be taken from the mighty, or the lawful captive delivered? But thus saith the LORD, Even the captives of the mighty shall be taken away, and the prey of the terrible shall be delivered: for I will contend with him that contendeth with thee, and I will save thy children. This young man is now a prey and a captive in the hands of satan 'the mighty'. He is a Lawful captive because his father or parents gave him over to satan willingly, albeit in ignitance back then. But now, if he wants to go out of that Captivity, YHWH is the only one who can deliver him from satan, not by himself fasting and praying. There must be an interswitch. YHWH Himself will fight for him and deliver him. 48 Likes 6 Shares |
Re: My Grandfather Was A Native Doctor: Is The Generational Curse Phenomenon True? by MuttleyLaff: 12:19pm On Dec 14, 2017 |
@Emmanystone Sorry the finicky antispambot has hidden your post and probably slammed you with a posting ban Thank you for reaching out to assist that brother 3 Likes |
Re: My Grandfather Was A Native Doctor: Is The Generational Curse Phenomenon True? by Image123(m): 12:21pm On Dec 14, 2017 |
intrepidJ: You need to be genuinely born again, that's foundational. Then you need to aggressively build up your faith and pray. It's not just a one liner, it's your whole life that has to be permeated and endued with faith and prayers. 4 Likes |
Re: My Grandfather Was A Native Doctor: Is The Generational Curse Phenomenon True? by godisgood200: 12:33pm On Dec 14, 2017 |
MuttleyLaff:What causes antispamboad to ban someone? |
Re: My Grandfather Was A Native Doctor: Is The Generational Curse Phenomenon True? by godisgood200: 12:34pm On Dec 14, 2017 |
Image123:I aggree. |
Re: My Grandfather Was A Native Doctor: Is The Generational Curse Phenomenon True? by petra1(m): 2:15pm On Dec 14, 2017 |
intrepidJ: You need to go for deliverance . If your father had not initiated you , there is a very high tendency to still be afflicted . Because devils from such background always come for their pound of flesh how much more that your father initiated you at young age . Especially if you're a first born . I don't know if you are . Now the Bible says if any man be in christ he is a new creature . But the devil doesn't see it that way . It's your personal Faith that counts . You can fight a fight of faith by praying hard in toungues and worshiping God in intimate relationship. You can defeat it by the word of God l but to be on safer side get to an experienced minister in casting devils to do a thorough cleansing . I have cast devils out of pastors who speak in Tongues and sometimes even demons talked through them saying things like ." I AM THE IDOL OF HUS FATHERS HOUSE , I HAVE CAGED HIS PROSPERITY, HE REFUSED TO WORSHIP ME" Some of these pastors don't even believe they had such issues . Sometimes when I play back the video from the phone and they see demons manifesting and taking through them ,they get shocked 9 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: My Grandfather Was A Native Doctor: Is The Generational Curse Phenomenon True? by Nuzo1(m): 5:34pm On Dec 14, 2017 |
Deliverance will not save you. Or maybe it can save you for a day or two, and then the evil forces are back. And when they come back, they come with 7 other powerful spirits. This step is very dangerous at this stage. First step is by understanding who Jesus is and what he represents. Second step is getting to believe him in totality. Third step is very important: by living like Christ himself. For someone who was willingly dedicated to the evil spirits, you cannot escape this evil without the third step. Nothing scares the devil like a righteous person. Some people try to evade or interchange this step by looking for someone to lay hands on them. Some call it Deliverance. All the mess you are going through and even more are likely to persist after the third step. But the difference will be that you will be filled with the Holy Spirit who will give you absolute peace. The moment you attain this peace, begin to thank God because you have conquered. This kind of peace is what is paramount in the life of a Christian. At this stage, you will encounter harder things and laugh because you already know what the devil plan is all about. This was the kind of peace Stephen had when he was being stoned to death. He was laughing and pointing to the glorious future but his killers never understood. Bottom line is that you are a child of light and devil usually fight tooth and nail for your kind. He will frustrate you to the point where you will be pushed to go and succeed your granpa. A point where you will have to denounce God like he wanted Job to do. This is also a period of training for what God is preparing you for. Will you pass the training/test or will you fall just when you were about to reach the finish line? For the records, generational courses are totally insignificant for those who are in Christ. If not, can you tell me a single family whose grandparents or great grandparents didn't worship devil? You are simply a star who has a lot to accomplish for God but it will be disastrous for the kingdom of hell to let you off easily. Go and record it in a dairy, blissful marriage na akamu case for you in the long run. 26 Likes 5 Shares |
Re: My Grandfather Was A Native Doctor: Is The Generational Curse Phenomenon True? by Johncuppa(m): 5:40pm On Dec 14, 2017 |
intrepidJ:Weldon brother! To start with, be calm. I mean just rest your mind. The fact that you are not following your fore fathers steps and ready to be liberated is the greatest decision and way out. Again, many people will want you start fasting and prayer as quick as you want to be free. No! Don't start yet, don't waste your energy - it does work like that, if it does, it is temporary, you will be there again. Questions; Is there generational curses? - Yes, there is. Hasn't my father broke it? - he hasn't. If he had, you shouldn't be having such experiences again. Will it continues till the forth generation? - This is not old testament era where God takes revenge till the forth generation. God's revenge is not the same as generational curses. This is devil claiming his right over your generation as per the allegiance made with him by your fore fathers on your behalf ( It doesn't mean whether you are aware or not). And it will last till when it is broken. If you brake it, that is all as touching your own lineage, if you couldn't, it continues till there is a man to brake it whether 10th or 20th generation. Could it be reverse or broken? - O yes! How many time? - Permanently, if you follow due process not just some pressurise fasting and prayer that will last for a while just for you to see yourself in the mess again. What does it? - Redemption, revelational Knowledge of the word of God, fasting and prayer. And you are done. But you see, the problem is not what it takes, but how to get someone who can open you up to biblical revelation. Once you know whom you are, who Satan is and Who God is, what Salvation is (not just some "follow me as I say it", what your redemption package is, your right in the present position (Who Jesus is in you and who you are in Jesus), your dominion over satan then you move to fasting and prayer with accurate knowledge of why you are doing so. In summary, what I'm saying is, before you start doing any fasting and prayer, two things are important - REVELATION and FAITH. With these two, you will live as if devil does not exist. There won't be need for you running after men for prayer. God bless you. Please, don't forget, Satan is as powerful as you see him and cheap to conquer as you think, both are functions of revelation.. 25 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: My Grandfather Was A Native Doctor: Is The Generational Curse Phenomenon True? by capitalzero: 6:26pm On Dec 14, 2017 |
see a psychiatrist asap. you are having neurosis. 32 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: My Grandfather Was A Native Doctor: Is The Generational Curse Phenomenon True? by godisgood200: 7:23pm On Dec 14, 2017 |
Johncuppa:Correct. 2 Likes |
Re: My Grandfather Was A Native Doctor: Is The Generational Curse Phenomenon True? by MuttleyLaff: 7:49pm On Dec 14, 2017 |
godisgood200:Algorithm 2 Likes |
Re: My Grandfather Was A Native Doctor: Is The Generational Curse Phenomenon True? by godisgood200: 7:58pm On Dec 14, 2017 |
MuttleyLaff:Big word. In a simple language pls. |
Re: My Grandfather Was A Native Doctor: Is The Generational Curse Phenomenon True? by Emmanystone: 8:08pm On Dec 15, 2017 |
MuttleyLaff:Why was i banned? |
Re: My Grandfather Was A Native Doctor: Is The Generational Curse Phenomenon True? by 0temSapien: 3:23am On Dec 16, 2017 |
Why does things like this choose to happen to only christians? I hardly see nonreligious people or atheists complaining about weird stuffs like this. When I was a christian too, I used to have this kind of mentality that everything is working against me, until I gave up Christianity and became a thinker. @ Op, try to meet a psychologist or psychiatrist. You'll be well advised on what to do. Thanks. 22 Likes 4 Shares |
Re: My Grandfather Was A Native Doctor: Is The Generational Curse Phenomenon True? by Nobody: 6:12am On Dec 16, 2017 |
intrepidJ:Good day brother. Am glad you av come to know Jesus as ur Lord and savior. Yeah there used to be generational curse but God promised that a time was coming when it will stop Jer31:29-31 29 In those days they shall say no more, The fathers have eaten a sour grape, and the children's teeth are set on edge. 30 But every one shall die for his own iniquity: every man that eateth the sour grape, his teeth shall be set on edge. 31 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: Ezekiel 18:1-4 1The word of the Lord came unto me again, saying, 2 What mean ye, that ye use this proverb concerning the land of Israel, saying, The fathers have eaten sour grapes, and the children's teeth are set on edge? 3 As I live, saith the Lord God, ye shall not have occasion any more to use this proverb in Israel. 4 Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die. What ever tape u listened to dat gave u reason why you are cursed, u should stop listening to such because half truth is more deadly than a blatant lie. According to the new testament, there was a paradigm shift from being born of the flesh (inheritance from adam) to being born of the spirit (inheritance in christ).. Jesus already broke the curse of the law for ur sake. So all the curses from Adam down to ur biological father has been broken the day you gave ur life to Christ. [b] 1cor15:22-47 22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. 23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. 24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. 25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet. 26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death. 27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him. 28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all. 29 Else what shall they do which are baptized for the dead, if the dead rise not at all? why are they then baptized for the dead? 30 And why stand we in jeopardy every hour? 31 I protest by your rejoicing which I have in Christ Jesus our Lord, I die daily. 32 If after the manner of men I have fought with beasts at Ephesus, what advantageth it me, if the dead rise not? let us eat and drink; for to morrow we die. 33 Be not deceived: evil communications corrupt good manners. 34 Awake to righteousness, and sin not; for some have not the knowledge of God: I speak this to your shame. 35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come? 36 Thou fool, that which thou sowest is not quickened, except it die: 37 And that which thou sowest, thou sowest not that body that shall be, but bare grain, it may chance of wheat, or of some other grain: 38 But God giveth it a body as it hath pleased him, and to every seed his own body. 39 All flesh is not the same flesh: but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of beasts, another of fishes, and another of birds. 40 There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another. 41 There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star differeth from another star in glory. 42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption: 43 It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power: 44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body. 45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit. 46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual. 47 The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.[/b] Now you may ask why ur experience has been contrary to what the Bible says, well the Bible also says that if a son remains a child he is not better than a servant. Gal4:1-6 1 Now I say, That the heir, as long as he is a child, differeth nothing from a servant, though he be lord of all; 2 But is under tutors and governors until the time appointed of the father. 3 Even so we, when we were children, were in bondage under the elements of the world: 4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law, 5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons. 6 And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father. D devil can cheat you by misinforming you. All you have in Christ you can only take by faith. U need to know the word of God to be able to build ur faith and unlearn every word of the flesh. Forget ur current experiences and hold on to the word of God and u will see ur experience change positively. 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: My Grandfather Was A Native Doctor: Is The Generational Curse Phenomenon True? by intrepidJ: 6:48am On Dec 16, 2017 |
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Re: My Grandfather Was A Native Doctor: Is The Generational Curse Phenomenon True? by shurley22(f): 9:29am On Dec 17, 2017 |
Are you the only child? 1 Like |
Re: My Grandfather Was A Native Doctor: Is The Generational Curse Phenomenon True? by Nobody: 9:30am On Dec 17, 2017 |
lol hw is it even possible 6 Likes 4 Shares |
Re: My Grandfather Was A Native Doctor: Is The Generational Curse Phenomenon True? by QueenMarvella(f): 9:31am On Dec 17, 2017 |
Nawa ooo 1 Like |
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