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Re: Christopher Hitchens by dalaman: 2:34am On Dec 16, 2017
butterflyl1on:


grin cheesy
The mental breakdown is now causing forced mental projections to occur.

The guy wants me to believe his words by fire grin

You must be on some cheap weed cheesy



It has nothing to do with belief. Because your God exist only in your head you'll always have to speak for it and tell others about it because it exist only inside your head and can't do anything for itself in reality.
Re: Christopher Hitchens by butterflyl1on: 2:46am On Dec 16, 2017
dalaman:


It has nothing to do with belief. Because your God exist only in your head you'll always have to speak for it and tell others about it because it exist only inside your head and can't do anything for itself in reality.


More forced projections grin cheesy
Re: Christopher Hitchens by frank317: 7:01am On Dec 16, 2017
butterflyl1on:



More forced projections grin cheesy

Eyaa... how do u feel when u realize u are talking to urself when praying? Lol, u just force urself to believe that a being somewhere must be answering u.

Trust me, i am amazed that u dont actually feel stupid when after asking ur so called almighty everything for more life and goodie goodies u still have to go out there and work hard to make a living.

Quick one, have u ever asked ur God to take ur life so that u can quickly go and live with him in his joyous kingdom? No? Dont u want to go and meet brother Jesus? Lol... u know deep down that its all made up stories right? If it was true, what the hell are u still doing here?
Re: Christopher Hitchens by Lucasiangrey: 7:11am On Dec 16, 2017
Bro butterfly1on,i don't know why you are insulting people...as a matter of fact,that was why i did not reply you...can't you just make your point or better ,keep calm and do nothing?.
Re: Christopher Hitchens by Lucasiangrey: 7:21am On Dec 16, 2017
danvon:
I know that God exist for sure that's me personally everyone has a unique view of the world but since I was talking to a so called atheist I had to ask that question
...and you also know the right one and the right way to worship it/him/her out of about 4200 (religions)ways...o.k.
Re: Christopher Hitchens by danvon(m): 7:32am On Dec 16, 2017
Lucasiangrey:
...and you also know the right one and the right way to worship it/him/her out of about 4200 (religions)ways...o.k.
Yeah I do because there are only 3 out of the 4200 religions that believe in One God (that I know), Judaism,Christianity and Islam currently Judaism is out of the equation there's Just 2 and the Qur'an can't be compared with the Bible actually anyone who reads the Bible and the Qur'an will understand that the Bible is the Word of God Mohammed himself kept mentioning Christians in the Qur'an, but it's me personally anyway thanks for trying to free me

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Re: Christopher Hitchens by butterflyl1on: 7:51am On Dec 16, 2017
frank317:


Eyaa... how do u feel when u realize u are talking to urself when praying? Lol, u just force urself to believe that a being somewhere must be answering u.

Trust me, i am amazed that u dont actually feel stupid when after asking ur so called almighty everything for more life and goodie goodies u still have to go out there and work hard to make a living.

Quick one, have u ever asked ur God to take ur life so that u can quickly go and live with him in his joyous kingdom? No? Dont u want to go and meet brother Jesus? Lol... u know deep down that its all made up stories right? If it was true, what the hell are u still doing here?

LMAO another one has joined the mental devolution gang and is also making forced projections oo grin cheesy

I see they will be plenty of this sort today. Awon mental cases

Re: Christopher Hitchens by butterflyl1on: 7:54am On Dec 16, 2017
Lucasiangrey:
Bro butterfly1on,i don't know why you are insulting people...as a matter of fact,that was why i did not reply you...can't you just make your point or better ,keep calm and do nothing?.

Was I on my knees begging you for a reply?

Stating the obvious ain't no insult. cheesy

If you can't take the heat then get out of the kitchen
Re: Christopher Hitchens by Lucasiangrey: 8:05am On Dec 16, 2017
danvon:
Yeah I do because there are only 3 out of the 4200 religions that believe in One God (that I know), Judaism,Christianity and Islam currently Judaism is out of the equation there's Just 2 and the Qur'an can't be compared with the Bible actually anyone who reads the Bible and the Qur'an will understand that the Bible is the Word of God Mohammed himself kept mentioning Christians in the Qur'an, but it's me personally anyway thanks for trying to free me
sir,if you were from india,most likely you won't be a christian...let's just say those born into a non christian family are unfortunate since the natural tendency is parental indoctrination.

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Re: Christopher Hitchens by danvon(m): 8:08am On Dec 16, 2017
Lucasiangrey:
sir,if you were from india,most likely you won't be a christian...let's just say those born into a non christian family are unfortunate since the natural tendency is parental indoctrination.
what of those who convert to Islam and vice versa it's not always parental infact if it was parental no one would be a Christian or a Muslim

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Re: Christopher Hitchens by butterflyl1on: 8:12am On Dec 16, 2017
danvon:
what of those who convert to Islam and vice versa it's not always parental infact if it was parental no one would be a Christian or a Muslim

Don't mind that neophyte all they know is talking about how people were indoctrinated into Christianity so ignorantly without even realizing that being born into a Christian home does not make anyone a Christian. Being BORN AGAIN is what makes anyone a Christian (Christian means like Christ).

Buddhists, Muslims, Pagans, Atheists who became born again Christians I guess they got indoctrinated from home by their parents.

So much ignorant comments flowing freely from atheists since last night. grin

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Re: Christopher Hitchens by Lucasiangrey: 8:22am On Dec 16, 2017
butterflyl1on:


Don't mind that neophyte all they know is talking about how people were indoctrinated into Christianity so ignorantly without even realizing that being born into a Christian home does not make anyone a Christian. Being BORN AGAIN is what makes anyone a Christian (Christian means like Christ).

Buddhists, Muslims, Pagans, Atheists who became born again Christians I guess they got indoctrinated from home by their parents.

So much ignorant comments flowing freely from atheists since last night. grin
well,i am not an atheist.
Re: Christopher Hitchens by butterflyl1on: 8:29am On Dec 16, 2017
Lucasiangrey:
well,i am not an atheist.

Whichever you are or choose to be is inconsequential. Worst declaration you would make would be that you are an agnostic. A y which way your comment reeks of ignorance.

Nobody is born a Christian and nobody is indoctrinated into Christianity. To become a Christian is not by compulsion but by a free will choice based on love.

I guess you were probably also indoctrinated into whatever you are right or did you choose?
Re: Christopher Hitchens by Lucasiangrey: 8:42am On Dec 16, 2017
butterflyl1on:


Whichever you are or choose to be is inconsequential. Worst declaration you would make would be that you are an agnostic. A y which way your comment reeks of ignorance.

Nobody is born a Christian and nobody is indoctrinated into Christianity. To become a Christian is not by compulsion but by a free will choice based on love.

I guess you were probably also indoctrinated into whatever you are right or did you choose?
i am a secular humanist...and sincerely,i am ready to embrace the truth.but,i won't sacrifice being inquisitive and use of critical faculty for believes in stuffs like talking donkey and flying horse.
Re: Christopher Hitchens by hopefulLandlord: 9:01am On Dec 16, 2017
danvon:
what of those who convert to Islam and vice versa it's not always parental infact if it was parental no one would be a Christian or a Muslim
vast majority of believers follow their faith simply because of where they were born and raised (indoctrinated). A look at any world religions demographic map shows this, overwhelming majority of people live and die as adherents of their parent's religion or most popular religion of their environment
Generally, your system of beliefs are directly related to where and when you live. There is a reason why nearly everyone in N. Korea believe Kim Jong Un is a god and why nearly everyone in Iran is Muslim. And there is a reason why most people in India are Hindu, most people in Tibet are Buddhits, Religion and beliefs are cultural.

Yes, people do convert from one religion to another but those are exceptions

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Re: Christopher Hitchens by butterflyl1on: 9:06am On Dec 16, 2017
Lucasiangrey:
i am a secular humanist...and sincerely,i am ready to embrace the truth.but,i won't sacrifice being inquisitive and use of critical faculty for believes in stuffs like talking donkey and flying horse.


And how does being a Christian disrupt your quest for inquisitiveness? Or do you not know that religion birthed science? Do you not know that those who have won the most awards for scientific breakthroughs were religious?

If your only claim is talking donkeys and flying horses then I find that absurd and such a silly talk.

Being a secular humanist or a religious skeptic is healthy. Even Christians can be skeptical so no biggie.
Re: Christopher Hitchens by danvon(m): 9:17am On Dec 16, 2017
hopefulLandlord:


Yes, people do convert from one religion to another but those are exceptions
And what of your beliefs, how are you sure they are not a result of the popular beliefs, or cultural ones? Don't say atheism isn't popular nowadays
Re: Christopher Hitchens by dalaman: 9:43am On Dec 16, 2017
butterflyl1on:


Don't mind that neophyte all they know is talking about how people were indoctrinated into Christianity so ignorantly without even realizing that being born into a Christian home does not make anyone a Christian. Being BORN AGAIN is what makes anyone a Christian (Christian means like Christ).

The way you always lie with a straight face, eh. You are a christian today ONLY because you are born into that culture and environment. What you call being born again is just a full acceptance of the religious culture. If you were born into a Shia muslim Family in Tehran you'll be a Shia muslim. If you were born into a Hindu family living in Bangalore or Mumbai you'll be a Hindu, your being a christian today has everything to do with your location and time in history. If you were born 350 years ago to your african ancestors you would have been an animists practising the religion of your ancestors . Being born into a christian home is the reason 99% of christians today are christians.

Buddhists, Muslims, Pagans, Atheists who became born again Christians I guess they got indoctrinated from home by their parents.

So much ignorant comments flowing freely from atheists since last night. grin

Studies after studies have shown that the percentage of religious convents is so insignificant to the over all population of any religion. Birthrate is what drives religious adherence all over the world and that is the fact.

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Re: Christopher Hitchens by dalaman: 9:46am On Dec 16, 2017
butterflyl1on:



And how does being a Christian disrupt your quest for inquisitiveness? Or do you not know that religion birthed science? Do you not know that those who have won the most awards for scientific breakthroughs were religious?

If your only claim is talking donkeys and flying horses then I find that absurd and such a silly talk.

Being a secular humanist or a religious skeptic is healthy. Even Christians can be skeptical so no biggie.


Religion did NOT give birth to science. Which religion gave birth to science and what part of the religious belief and doctrine was used in giving birth to science? Tell us pls.
Re: Christopher Hitchens by dalaman: 9:48am On Dec 16, 2017
butterflyl1on:



Nobody is born a Christian and nobody is indoctrinated into Christianity. To become a Christian is not by compulsion but by a free will choice based on love.

I guess you were probably also indoctrinated into whatever you are right or did you choose?

What religion were you practicing at age 10? How did you get to know about the religion and who taught you about it?
Re: Christopher Hitchens by butterflyl1on: 10:06am On Dec 16, 2017
dalaman:


The way you always lie with a straight face, eh. You are a christian today ONLY because you are born into that culture and environment. What you call being born again is just a full acceptance of the religious culture. If you were born into a Shia muslim Family in Tehran you'll be a Shia muslim. If you were born into a Hindu family living in Bangalore or Mumbai you'll be a Hindu, your being a christian today has everything to do with your location and time in history. If you were born 350 years ago to your african ancestors you would have been a animists practising the religion of your ancestors . Being born into a christian home is the reason 99% of christians today are christians.



Studies after studies have shown that the percentage of religious convents is so insignificant to the over all population of any religion. Birthrate is what drives religious adherence all over the world and that is the fact.


grin cheesy

Here comes the mental projector again who cares not tell the difference between A Christian and being born religious grin

Ask him to tell you what the word Christian means and then try to tie that to how being born into a religious home would make you become what the word CHRISTIAN means he would start stuttering and trying to dribble with words.

Already see him using the expression CHRISTIAN and RELLIGION all in one comment (confusion galore) cheesy

He Is even using Islam and Buddhism to compare Christianity. Makes you wonder how come they never agree if each can be used to define or explain the other. cheesy

Talk on Christianity alone and I will take you seriously ogbeni. Your confusion keeps growing in leaps and bounds daily
Re: Christopher Hitchens by butterflyl1on: 10:10am On Dec 16, 2017
dalaman:


What religion were you practicing at age 10? How did you get to know about the religion and who taught you about it?

I was Religious at age 10 but not a Christian. Again you would do well to note the difference grin

Besides nobody taught me about anything. I discovered for myself and chose by myself and have borne the consequences of MY CHOICE by myself.

I know you think everyone is Lilly livered and spineless like you who is tossed about by every wind of doctrine. Just like now that the wind of atheism is your latest cruise ship. cheesy
Re: Christopher Hitchens by butterflyl1on: 10:15am On Dec 16, 2017
dalaman:


Religion did NOT give birth to science. Which religion gave birth to science and what part of the religious belief and doctrine was used in giving birth to science? Tell us pls.

Ignorance is dancing skelewu in your veins.

http://blogs.nature.com/soapboxscience/2011/05/18/science-owes-much-to-both-christianity-and-the-middle-ages
Re: Christopher Hitchens by dalaman: 10:31am On Dec 16, 2017
butterflyl1on:


I was Religious at age 10 but not a Christian. Again you would do well to note the difference grin

What religion were you practicing by then and if you were asked what your religion was, what religion would have been your answer?

Besides nobody taught me about anything. I discovered for myself and chose by myself and have borne the consequences of MY CHOICE by myself.

Ohh you just woke up one day and discovered that the bible, christianity and the stories and doctrines associated with it without anybody teaching you anything. Wow, continue with the lies, am listening.

I know you think everyone is Lilly livered and spineless like you who is tossed about by every wind of doctrine. Just like now that the wind of atheism is your latest cruise ship. cheesy

Is this part of the relapsing mental illness?

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Re: Christopher Hitchens by dalaman: 10:32am On Dec 16, 2017
butterflyl1on:


Ignorance is dancing skelewu in your veins.

http://blogs.nature.com/soapboxscience/2011/05/18/science-owes-much-to-both-christianity-and-the-middle-ages

So the opinion of a blogger is what you are throwing at me as answers to the questions I asked you abi? Well done.
Re: Christopher Hitchens by dalaman: 10:36am On Dec 16, 2017
butterflyl1on:



grin cheesy

Here comes the mental projector again who cares not tell the difference between A Christian and being born religious grin

Ask him to tell you what the word Christian means and then try to tie that to how being born into a religious home would make you become what the word CHRISTIAN means he would start stuttering and trying to dribble with words.

Already see him using the expression CHRISTIAN and RELLIGION all in one comment (confusion galore) cheesy

He Is even using Islam and Buddhism to compare Christianity. Makes you wonder how come they never agree if each can be used to define or explain the other. cheesy

Talk on Christianity alone and I will take you seriously ogbeni. Your confusion keeps growing in leaps and bounds daily
You've not demonstrated that majority of the people that practice what ever religion they are practicing aren't doing it because they were born into it. Almost all adherents of all religions do that because they happen to be born into the culture and environment. You were born into a christian home that is why you are a christian today and that is the fact.
Re: Christopher Hitchens by butterflyl1on: 10:55am On Dec 16, 2017
dalaman:

You've not demonstrated that majority of the people that practice what ever religion they are practicing aren't doing it because they were born into it. Almost all adherents of all religions do that because they happen to be born into the culture and environment. You were born into a christian home that is why you are a christian today and that is the fact.

WRONG! grin

I was born into a religious home and not a Christian home. Again you would do well to note the difference.

Being a Christian had no link to being religious and neither does being born into a church going presumed God loving home make one a Christian. It's like saying being born a human means I must always stand erect and not sit or crawl or bend over.

WE CHOOSE WHO WE BECOME. NOBODY IN CHRISTIANITY IS MADE TO BECOME A CHRISTIAN. you can be made to be religious but like I said, being a Christian has no link to being religious.

I hope this clear explanation I am giving you for the umpteenth time would make you cease from making such silly assumptions again.
Re: Christopher Hitchens by butterflyl1on: 10:57am On Dec 16, 2017
dalaman:


What religion were you practicing by then and if you were asked what your religion was, what religion would have been your answer?



Ohh you just woke up one day and discovered that the bible, christianity and the stories and doctrines associated with it without anybody teaching you anything. Wow, continue with the lies, am listening.



Is this part of the relapsing mental illness?

I know some gist is hard for your Lilly liver to swallow but sadly for you we all do not have to be like you.

Nobody taught me anything. Who would? In a religious home where none was a Christian who would teach me about Christianity there? Maybe you were the one who taught me then when you were an alleged ardent Christian before you now switched to your latest atheist cruise ship cheesy
Re: Christopher Hitchens by butterflyl1on: 11:00am On Dec 16, 2017
dalaman:


So the opinion of a blogger is what you are throwing at me as answers to the questions I asked you abi? Well done.

The opinion was not of a blogger but an interviewed guest who has a PhD in the History and Philosophy of Science from the University of Cambridge and is the author of The Genesis of Science: How the Christian Middle Ages Launched the Scientific Revolution (published in the UK as God’s Philosophers: How the Medieval World Laid the Foundations of Modern Science).

Why not read it. Is it because it's a blog? Leave wetin dem write for motor body enter motor.
Re: Christopher Hitchens by Lucasiangrey: 11:12am On Dec 16, 2017
butterflyl1on:


Ignorance is dancing skelewu in your veins.

http://blogs.nature.com/soapboxscience/2011/05/18/science-owes-much-to-both-christianity-and-the-middle-ages
please,read the comments in that blog...
Re: Christopher Hitchens by Lucasiangrey: 11:20am On Dec 16, 2017
butterflyl1on:


The opinion was not of a blogger but an interviewed guest who has a PhD in the History and Philosophy of Science from the University of Cambridge and is the author of The Genesis of Science: How the Christian Middle Ages Launched the Scientific Revolution (published in the UK as God’s Philosophers: How the Medieval World Laid the Foundations of Modern Science).

Why not read it. Is it because it's a blog? Leave wetin dem write for motor body enter motor.
since richard dawkins is phd and professor,you agree with him on the topic " evolution ".
Re: Christopher Hitchens by butterflyl1on: 11:23am On Dec 16, 2017
Lucasiangrey:
please,read the comments in that blog...

More like opinions. Those opinions were also touched on in the blog so no hoopla there.

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