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Re: Deeper Life Bible Church: Facts No One Would Tell You About The Church by IdeyFindWife: 2:49pm On Dec 18, 2017 |
BiafranBushBoy: I feel that for such an old minister of the gospel, to look back in retrospect and with, possibly, some critical function of divine direction, and decide to apply positive corrective remedies to certain erroneous "foundations of faith". Mind you, these were the premise upon which hundreds of thousands of Christian believers shaped their world-view, engaged and disengaged from familial, business, career and indeed, all of life's relations formerly. Some of these teachings were also key to the "ill-prepared" exit of many from the movement. If you were really considering the psychology of human group behavior as it pertains to key sectors like religious beliefs or political structures, you would be mindful of the fact that "a whole lot of weaker-minded people" would have tagged along based on herd instinct instead of being really spirit-led. What about young ones brought up in the system and even young converts raised therein? Now, Christendom in Nigeria is a veritable mess of all-sorts and pastors have become the cheap stock of every joke for every comedian/OAP to lampoon in their spare-time despite being a full-time demons themselves and we don't even know where to start sorting things out from. I think it's best not to be as dismissive as implying that "no one was misled" and instead join in the rebuilding effort with empathy, sincere sense of responsibility and a christian duty to indeed searching out and verifying every edifying truth before we transmit such to others knowing we may be the only Bibles they get to read eventually. Wrong things were taught as being critical, essential and sacrosanct, now more revelational light and benefit of wisdom has shown them as impeding factors on the long term, the mere fact that Pst Kumuyi came on air should make everyone have a second-take on them, but to live in denial will not be laying a good foundation for our generation, peace! Besides, Christ never sent anyone to help Him add to His Word and our Heavenly Father's Commandments and the Lord's stand, in the Book of Revelations, for those practicing such is quite severe enough for anyone who wants to learn and not just trivialize things of the eternal and the spiritual. 1 Like 2 Shares |
Re: Deeper Life Bible Church: Facts No One Would Tell You About The Church by GoodMuyis(m): 2:49pm On Dec 18, 2017 |
Lomprico2: Give us examples of what he may likely need money for? |
Re: Deeper Life Bible Church: Facts No One Would Tell You About The Church by lonikit: 2:49pm On Dec 18, 2017 |
handelex: tnk u sir. maybe other denominations that use jewel wil go to hell fire. I'm yet to see where God condemned jewel |
Re: Deeper Life Bible Church: Facts No One Would Tell You About The Church by GoodMuyis(m): 2:56pm On Dec 18, 2017 |
Beey: Sometime for economic reasons, just buy and sew it Sometimes bad or inexperienced tailor. Some members feel like giving the job to ordinary tailor. I have seen many none DLBC members who wore poorly designed wedding gown. Buying is not a good idea since most of then have too much opened neck |
Re: Deeper Life Bible Church: Facts No One Would Tell You About The Church by GoodMuyis(m): 3:06pm On Dec 18, 2017 |
Iamzik: NO! They will be tied with role and be forced to give their life to Christ, |
Re: Deeper Life Bible Church: Facts No One Would Tell You About The Church by Nobody: 3:08pm On Dec 18, 2017 |
Makuos:Fine, and it shouldn't be an issue for you to keep emphasizing. If Christ was here now you're telling me this is what He will be emphasizing on eh? Personal convictions and dealings with God shouldn't be mandated upon people, God owns our bodies, what He permits you He might not permit another. |
Re: Deeper Life Bible Church: Facts No One Would Tell You About The Church by Makuos: 3:14pm On Dec 18, 2017 |
Beey: That passage is talking about other maidens that came to meet the king. Now see the turn of Esther in Esther 2:15. Besides, why are u using Esther, is Esther your example or Jesus is suppose to be your example ![]() We are commanded to follow after the footstep of Jesus....Jesus had "no beauty" that people in the world would desire Him when He walked upon this earth(Isaiah 53:2)....that is the example we should follow! I pray you realize this now before it will too late for you!!! |
Re: Deeper Life Bible Church: Facts No One Would Tell You About The Church by Makuos: 3:18pm On Dec 18, 2017 |
handelex: Am I saying personal conviction or saying what the Bible said ![]() |
Re: Deeper Life Bible Church: Facts No One Would Tell You About The Church by Lomprico2: 3:21pm On Dec 18, 2017 |
Re: Deeper Life Bible Church: Facts No One Would Tell You About The Church by chieni(f): 3:24pm On Dec 18, 2017 |
asuustrike2009:check your dictionary for broided hair. it has to do with weaving the hair, note that you can also braid your natural hair. It did not specifically say do not braid with extensions. Besides if I use attachment or just my natural hair, it does not tell how spiritual I am |
Re: Deeper Life Bible Church: Facts No One Would Tell You About The Church by Nobody: 3:26pm On Dec 18, 2017 |
Makuos:OK, pls were did the Bible say wearing of ear rings or generally jewelry will take someone to hell? Modified : wedding rings too. |
Re: Deeper Life Bible Church: Facts No One Would Tell You About The Church by Makuos: 3:40pm On Dec 18, 2017 |
handelex: Must bible mention everything that can take someone to hell ![]() When you live to fulfill the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eye and pride of life, hell fire will be waiting for you....you want to wear jewelry because others are wearing(lust of the eye), and when you wear it(pride of life)! |
Re: Deeper Life Bible Church: Facts No One Would Tell You About The Church by Beey(f): 3:42pm On Dec 18, 2017 |
Makuos:LOL, where did Christ tell people not to use jewelry?Is Esther also not in the Bible? |
Re: Deeper Life Bible Church: Facts No One Would Tell You About The Church by lonikit: 3:42pm On Dec 18, 2017 |
Makuos: are u saying pple wearing jewelry wil end up in hell?? |
Re: Deeper Life Bible Church: Facts No One Would Tell You About The Church by Makuos: 3:44pm On Dec 18, 2017 |
handelex: Like I asked, must the bible mention everything that can take someone to hell ![]() Bible spoke against marrying more than one wife Yet no where did He said marrying more than one will take one to hell Then does that mean if you have more than one wife and die in that condition you won't go to hell ![]() Having more than one wife(lust of the flesh)!!! I pray God will open your eyes and understanding!!! |
Re: Deeper Life Bible Church: Facts No One Would Tell You About The Church by Beey(f): 3:45pm On Dec 18, 2017 |
GoodMuyis:There are decent beautiful wedding dresses out there.I've heard from a deeper life attendee that modern wedding dresses are not allowed which to me sounds like bull crap.Until when will people continue to be held down by some man-made rules? |
Re: Deeper Life Bible Church: Facts No One Would Tell You About The Church by Nobody: 3:45pm On Dec 18, 2017 |
lonikit: Yep, that's what some of them say. In my time men were not encouraged to wear decorative, flowery shirts, women were not allowed to wear trousers etc. It is not very different to extreme Islam without the violence. |
Re: Deeper Life Bible Church: Facts No One Would Tell You About The Church by lonikit: 3:46pm On Dec 18, 2017 |
Makuos: so Jacob and david are in hell now abi ![]() |
Re: Deeper Life Bible Church: Facts No One Would Tell You About The Church by Makuos: 3:47pm On Dec 18, 2017 |
lonikit: What is the significance of wearing jewelry ![]() |
Re: Deeper Life Bible Church: Facts No One Would Tell You About The Church by Makuos: 3:47pm On Dec 18, 2017 |
Re: Deeper Life Bible Church: Facts No One Would Tell You About The Church by lonikit: 3:48pm On Dec 18, 2017 |
Makuos:answer my question, are those wearing jewelry going to hell ![]() |
Re: Deeper Life Bible Church: Facts No One Would Tell You About The Church by lonikit: 3:49pm On Dec 18, 2017 |
Makuos:they had more than one wife |
Re: Deeper Life Bible Church: Facts No One Would Tell You About The Church by Makuos: 3:52pm On Dec 18, 2017 |
Beey: Is it all modern wedding dresses that are decent ![]() Besides, the groom wears a suit and continues to wear it after the wedding. However, the bride spends a lot of money on the gown and cannot wear it again....What is the moral or economic justification for that? Is it not to satisfy the iniquitous desire to be like the world? Can she not wear a gown she can wear publicly after the wedding? Did God not warn His Children not to follow the world in its madness and folly(John 2:15-17)? |
Re: Deeper Life Bible Church: Facts No One Would Tell You About The Church by Beey(f): 3:58pm On Dec 18, 2017 |
Makuos:Nawa ohh, so even if you have the money you shouldn't spend it in order not to seem worldly? And you already know the kind of person I am? Na wa ohh.They've succeeded in brainwashing you.But let me tell you something.Judgement day will be full of surprises.Those who thought they'd be 1st, will be surprised to see they didn't make into heaven.Those who were condemned by men, they might be the 1st on the list of heaven.Stop trying to wear God's shoes trying to play judge over people.His shoes are too big for you! |
Re: Deeper Life Bible Church: Facts No One Would Tell You About The Church by lonikit: 3:59pm On Dec 18, 2017 |
Makuos: I concur with u on this but let me ask this, is church wedding scriptural ![]() |
Re: Deeper Life Bible Church: Facts No One Would Tell You About The Church by Makuos: 4:00pm On Dec 18, 2017 |
lonikit: They had more than one wife, that is old testament where God overlook some of their short comings which they should have settled that with God....Now in the new testament which was a better covenant, how many believers had more than one wife in the new testament ![]() |
Re: Deeper Life Bible Church: Facts No One Would Tell You About The Church by Nobody: 4:00pm On Dec 18, 2017 |
Makuos:I think the Scriptures is quite clear on that and clearly mentions all the categories. One thing I've noticed about we Deeper Lifers, some of us are arrogant when it comes to condemning fellow believers especially on non essentials. In our church we have the the 22 cardinal Bible doctrines,have you asked yourself whether this issue is among those Bible doctrines ? I used to have this mentality but i realised we are not the only Christians upholding the standard of the word of God in this nation and we should accept our fellow christians from other denominations too and not killing ourselves over jewelry this and jewelry that as if it was ever a factor in our salvation. |
Re: Deeper Life Bible Church: Facts No One Would Tell You About The Church by IdeyFindWife: 4:01pm On Dec 18, 2017 |
PissedOffWeed: I think you are forgetting the fact that Christianity has roots in Judaism, a spirito-social and political framework that was handed down by our Father God Himself. And in that system, especially in the Old Covenant, the keeping of Beards & Mosutaches was regarded as normative if not celebrated in some instances! Sir, don't you agree with me that we simply went overboard with the adopting and "christianizing" parts of the values-systems, ways and norms of the European Christian Missionaries who evangelized our forebears and with who we had our earliest Christian contacts? Have we not erred also as Christ implied "teaching as doctrine the traditions of men"? Have we not taken people captive into silly arguements and obligations on premise of "taste not, touch not" even when we ourselves were not so well-schooled on the etymologies of the standards we adopted or proclaimed to others as pathways to heaven? Who declared the Black Suit, Shirt & Collar as official Clergy Uniform while downgrading the Kaftan, Agbada & our other native attires while dispensing with the original Jewish Robes? After all, if you were to want to retain resemblance to the Master as much as possible, wouldn't you have done well by modelling yourself to His closest Image while on His Earthly walk, which sorry to burst your bubbles, is the Mediterranean look? Who Sanctioned as Sunday the Official Worship Observance Day for Christians Instead of the Sabbath Day which is Saturday as is still being practiced in Israel today? (At least, the Jews are not extinct, if we were in doubt, we would have done well to board a flight out there and understudied them a bit?) Why this unnecessary modelling of our African congregations after the same Whitemen's Customs, who, in the past, read Bible, pontificated and preached that Negros were more or less Aboriginal Monkeys? Why splitting our families, communities and social impact by building and fighting on faulty thought foundations instead of a wholesome understanding of the Unbiased Word of God? Or do we think the Almighty was foolish to have created us here, in Africa, with our peculiarities, intricacies and individuality? Why all this unnecessary and graceless, foolish cloning of people into zombies? Is it not a pity that, it is on the basis of these externalities that, the Church in Nigeria first started it's slide into this filthy, putrefying messy valley of despair-some confusion with all the splits and the finger-pointing of the mid-1990's? One minute it was all revival, next minute the story-tellers came onboard with all the fanstastic tales of "Women's Weaves" being brought from under the Seas by the Queen of the Coast despite the fact that nobody's ever spotted a single truck-load of weave products driving our from under the Waters of BAR Beach or Takwa Bay? Doctrines flew out of that and the next thing is Carnal Judgementalism and Demonic Soulish Comparisons based on lies sponsored from the pit of hell. We now saw churches splititing, no longer honoring program invites from one another and barring members from fellowship together because of flimsy excuses like "they're not holy because they wear Jeans, we're are holy because we wear Corduroys!" Now, look at the mess the Nig. Church has made of it's testimony. No one single day without news breaking of some pastor somewhere doing some dirty, crazy or godless deed. We know they're fake but they wear the collar, bear the title and people answer to them and would probably kill for some of them too. And PFN etc are powerless to do anything! Somebody somewhere will have to answer some day for putting so many people out of way! No wonder the Book of James enjoins one not to be in a hurry to be "teachers of the Word" since they will judged with greater levels of scrutiny and severity. Let everybody be careful of what they're teaching or leading people into especially as pertaining spiting hairs and "micro-managing" people's privacy instead of 'discipling' them to grow in the Spirit and Word and being able to discern the perfect will of God (Rom 12:1-2) for their own lives for themselves at every one their lives' junctures! |
Re: Deeper Life Bible Church: Facts No One Would Tell You About The Church by lonikit: 4:03pm On Dec 18, 2017 |
Makuos: God overlooked it in old testament but took it against them in new testament abi ![]() |
Re: Deeper Life Bible Church: Facts No One Would Tell You About The Church by Makuos: 4:05pm On Dec 18, 2017 |
Beey: So if Jesus was in your shoe He will spend so much on something that He will not even wear again after one day ![]() ![]() |
Re: Deeper Life Bible Church: Facts No One Would Tell You About The Church by lonikit: 4:05pm On Dec 18, 2017 |
handelex: that man is confused. even pastor Kumuyi never preached it that one wearing jewel wil go to hell |
Re: Deeper Life Bible Church: Facts No One Would Tell You About The Church by Makuos: 4:08pm On Dec 18, 2017 |
handelex: Bible doctrines are different from bible injuctions/examples Bible is made up of both doctrines and injuctions. This issues are under bible injuctions/examples not under bible doctrines. |
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