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Re: Deeper Life Bible Church: Facts No One Would Tell You About The Church by Beey(f): 4:11pm On Dec 18, 2017 |
Makuos:As I said, you are not God.So leave my Chrisnity out of the equation.Stop being judgmental & as I told you earlier, Heaven will be full of surprises to see the ones considered unqualified, welcomed in the kingdom.The thief on the cross next to Jesus didn't seem like he was a likely candidate but there on the cross, He obtained mercy! |
Re: Deeper Life Bible Church: Facts No One Would Tell You About The Church by lonikit: 4:15pm On Dec 18, 2017 |
Makuos: so where did Christ instructed christians about jewel sir ![]() |
Re: Deeper Life Bible Church: Facts No One Would Tell You About The Church by Nobody: 4:19pm On Dec 18, 2017 |
Makuos:Lol...well you are not the one to determine who makes heaven or not the only ticket is salvation and holiness without which no man shall see the Lord, so jewelry or not is not a factor bro. So pls don't condemn whom Christ has not condemned. 1 Like |
Re: Deeper Life Bible Church: Facts No One Would Tell You About The Church by Nobody: 4:23pm On Dec 18, 2017 |
lonikit:True, I've never heard Kumuyi preach that but even at that our Saviour Jesus never preached that as well. |
Re: Deeper Life Bible Church: Facts No One Would Tell You About The Church by GoodMuyis(m): 4:30pm On Dec 18, 2017 |
Beey: The one you talked to are they married? Or being to marriage committee before. People make a lot of speculation that are not true. The standard is *not exposing the body* especially the burst, Don't overspend if you can't afford. 1 Like |
Re: Deeper Life Bible Church: Facts No One Would Tell You About The Church by Makuos: 4:30pm On Dec 18, 2017 |
handelex: You see yourself....people like you, when truth is being presented, they tag it as condemning/judging. So tell me where I have condemned or how I condemned ![]() And for your information, jewelry is a big factor if it not, Then apostle Paul through the inspiration of the Holy Spirit will not have spoken about it in 1Timothy 2:9-10:- "In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with braided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array: but (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works"......In other words, it is unbecoming of a woman professing godliness, that is, a woman who claims to be a Christian to put on gold, pearls or costly clothes. |
Re: Deeper Life Bible Church: Facts No One Would Tell You About The Church by lonikit: 4:35pm On Dec 18, 2017 |
Makuos: bro where did Christ instructed christians about jewel ![]() |
Re: Deeper Life Bible Church: Facts No One Would Tell You About The Church by Makuos: 4:35pm On Dec 18, 2017 |
Beey: Using "Heaven will be full of surprises" will not help u if u dont deny yourself where necessary and repent becos i won't be surprised if u miss heaven with this level of understanding But i pray you make heaven including me, and everyone on this thread!!! |
Re: Deeper Life Bible Church: Facts No One Would Tell You About The Church by Nobody: 4:35pm On Dec 18, 2017 |
Makuos:But the men can put on costly cloth and suits abi? |
Re: Deeper Life Bible Church: Facts No One Would Tell You About The Church by lonikit: 4:37pm On Dec 18, 2017 |
Re: Deeper Life Bible Church: Facts No One Would Tell You About The Church by Makuos: 4:39pm On Dec 18, 2017 |
lonikit: The Spirit of Christ spoke through Apostle Paul where he spoke about Jewelry in 1Timothy 2:9-10 Remember when Christ was with His disciples He told them He has a lot of things to tell them But they will not be able to bear them now that He will send the comforter(the Holy Spirit) which will tell them all all things to come. |
Re: Deeper Life Bible Church: Facts No One Would Tell You About The Church by Makuos: 4:42pm On Dec 18, 2017 |
lonikit: Wedding is scriptural whether u want to do it in the church or not, or as white wedding or traditional. Its your choice!!! |
Re: Deeper Life Bible Church: Facts No One Would Tell You About The Church by lonikit: 4:43pm On Dec 18, 2017 |
Makuos: but same Paul say this, why are going against it on churches?? 1 Timothy 2:12 KJV But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. |
Re: Deeper Life Bible Church: Facts No One Would Tell You About The Church by Nobody: 4:43pm On Dec 18, 2017 |
Some Christians believe it is wrong for women to wear makeup or jewelry, citing a couple of New Testament passages that seem to forbid such things. While we certainly respect the convictions of born-again children of God, we also want to be sure that our teaching does not go beyond what the Word of God actually says. We do not want to “teach man-made ideas as commands from God” ( Mark 7:7, NLT ). In examining the propriety of wearing makeup or jewelry, we start with 1 Samuel 16:7b : “The LORD does not look at the things people look at. People look at the outward appearance, but the LORD looks at the heart.” This verse lays down a foundational principle concerning the limitations of our perspective: we naturally see the externals; God sees the internal truth. This does not mean that the externals are unimportant, of course—we readily communicate with others via visual signals, and the appearance we choose for ourselves can express rebellion, piety, carelessness, meticulousness, etc. But appearances can be deceiving, and there is the deeper issue of the heart. Whatever is done to the outward appearance is done for man to see, and we should be careful about that, but God is more concerned with what is happening in the heart. In the context of rules for public worship, Paul says, “I also want the women to dress modestly, with decency and propriety, adorning themselves, not with elaborate hairstyles or gold or pearls or expensive clothes, but with good deeds, appropriate for women who profess to worship God” ( 1 Timothy 2:9–10 ). This is one of the passages that cause some women to avoid wearing makeup or jewelry altogether. A couple of things to note in this passage: first, there is a standard of dress that is right for a woman in a worship service. Paul gives no specifics, but a woman’s clothing is to be modest and decent and respectable. Wearing anything that is immodest, indecent, or disreputable is wrong. Drawing the line between modest and immodest can be subjective, and modesty depends somewhat on cultural mores, but each believer should be discerning enough to avoid giving offense. Second, there is a proper adornment for women who worship God and an improper adornment. The proper adornment for a godly woman is simply good deeds . Tabitha adorned herself beautifully by “always doing good and helping the poor” (Acts 9:36 ). The improper adornment for a godly woman is that which puffs her up with pride or draws attention to her outward appearance: the examples are elaborate hairstyles, gold and pearls, and expensive clothing. The focus of a worship service is to be the Lord, not the latest fashion, the biggest diamond, or the most chic hairdo. Wearing a $3,000 dress to church or flashing gaudy jewelry does nothing to truly adorn the woman of God. She would be much better off—and the poor much better served—if she sold the dress and gave the money to a Christian charity. Perhaps the time she spent on the elaborate hairdo would have been better spent serving someone in need. In 1 Timothy 2:9–10 , Paul sets up a contrast between trying to please God and trying to please men. A public worship service should not be a fashion show. It’s not that a woman can never wear jewelry or style her hair differently. It’s that overindulgence and excess are improper in church. We must all guard against pride and be careful not to distract others (or ourselves) from what is truly important: the worship of God and the service of others. Another passage that relates to the issue of women wearing makeup or jewelry is 1 Peter 3:3–5, “Your beauty should not come from outward adornment, such as elaborate hairstyles and the wearing of gold jewelry or fine clothes. Rather, it should be that of your inner self, the unfading beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which is of great worth in God’s sight. For this is the way the holy women of the past who put their hope in God used to adorn themselves.” Peter emphasizes the contrast between the outward, fleeting beauty and the inward, lasting beauty of a woman. A truly beautiful woman has a “gentle and quiet spirit.” She may not be noticed much in this world, but God sees the heart. To flaunt one’s beauty for selfish adoration is not in line with the humility of Christ, especially when the flaunting takes place in a worship service. Again, it’s not that braided hair is sinful, but those who rely on their hair, their jewelry, or their clothing to make them beautiful are chasing after vanity. It is more worthwhile to develop godly character. In summary, there is nothing inherently wrong with wearing jewelry, makeup, or braided hair, as long as it is done in a modest manner. Also, such things can never replace good deeds or a humble spirit. A Christian woman should not be so focused on her outward appearance that she neglects her spiritual life. A worship service should be focused on God, not on us. If a woman is spending an inordinate amount of time and money on her appearance, the problem is that the woman’s priorities are misplaced. Expensive jewelry and clothing are the results of the problem, not the problem itself. #Shalom |
Re: Deeper Life Bible Church: Facts No One Would Tell You About The Church by lonikit: 4:44pm On Dec 18, 2017 |
Makuos: church wedding is not scriptural sir. u can prove it |
Re: Deeper Life Bible Church: Facts No One Would Tell You About The Church by lonikit: 4:45pm On Dec 18, 2017 |
Makuos:I never said wedding but church wedding oga |
Re: Deeper Life Bible Church: Facts No One Would Tell You About The Church by Makuos: 4:48pm On Dec 18, 2017 |
lonikit: Bible neither mention church wedding or traditional wedding. Bible did not mention any form of wedding. Bible only mention wedding. So like I said if you like do yours as a church wedding, traditional wedding etc its your choice!!! |
Re: Deeper Life Bible Church: Facts No One Would Tell You About The Church by lonikit: 4:50pm On Dec 18, 2017 |
Makuos: why are we not obeying this 1 Corinthians 14:34 KJV Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. or was it not same Paul speaking here 1 Timothy 2:12 KJV But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. |
Re: Deeper Life Bible Church: Facts No One Would Tell You About The Church by Makuos: 4:51pm On Dec 18, 2017 |
lonikit: My church is obeying that injuction!!! |
Re: Deeper Life Bible Church: Facts No One Would Tell You About The Church by lonikit: 4:52pm On Dec 18, 2017 |
Re: Deeper Life Bible Church: Facts No One Would Tell You About The Church by lonikit: 4:55pm On Dec 18, 2017 |
Makuos: same Paul says this 1 Corinthians 7:13-14 KJV And the woman which hath an husband that believeth not, and if he be pleased to dwell with her, let her not leave him. [14] For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy. but no one wil preach this to u rather, u must seek the will of God in marriage |
Re: Deeper Life Bible Church: Facts No One Would Tell You About The Church by Beey(f): 5:13pm On Dec 18, 2017 |
GoodMuyis:Didn't you see Biafrabushman recently posted pictures of his sister's deeper life wedding.They took pictures outside because apparently she violated the church rules by changing into a modern wedding dress.She obviously couldn't wear they dress to the church, decent as it was.Don't you remember that Kumuyi's son had been excommunicated from the church by his fathrr because of how his wife dressed on their wedding day? She had a beautiful modest wedding dress which wasn't exposing anything but it was obviously unholy for that church.He later had to write an apology letter to the church & was accepted back.But I remember his wife wore Makeup even at their traditional wedding. 1 Like
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Re: Deeper Life Bible Church: Facts No One Would Tell You About The Church by OLAADEGBU(m): 6:25pm On Dec 18, 2017 |
BiafraBushBoy: There are a lot of half truths in your post up there. I believe you should do your research before posting on behalf of the church. P.S. That picture of Deeper life Ministries you posted is another ministry, not ours. |
Re: Deeper Life Bible Church: Facts No One Would Tell You About The Church by Nobody: 8:26pm On Dec 18, 2017 |
chieni:Don't braid your hair with attachment. The women of old didn't do such. |
Re: Deeper Life Bible Church: Facts No One Would Tell You About The Church by Nobody: 8:38pm On Dec 18, 2017 |
Deeper life is just a one man cult, preaching the commandments of men for doctrine. |
Re: Deeper Life Bible Church: Facts No One Would Tell You About The Church by Nobody: 8:39pm On Dec 18, 2017 |
Beey: Don't mind the whitewashed hypocrites !! |
Re: Deeper Life Bible Church: Facts No One Would Tell You About The Church by Makuos: 8:48pm On Dec 18, 2017 |
frosbel2: Mention the commandments of men for doctrine let's see if they are commandments of men or from the bible ![]() |
Re: Deeper Life Bible Church: Facts No One Would Tell You About The Church by Makuos: 9:17pm On Dec 18, 2017 |
lonikit: I believe u don't understand that passage. Read verse 12 of that chapter...Besides, bible talks about seeking His will in everything including marriage (read Proverbs 3:5-6)! Then read 2Corinthians 6:14, Deuteronomy 7:3. |
Re: Deeper Life Bible Church: Facts No One Would Tell You About The Church by Beey(f): 9:24pm On Dec 18, 2017 |
frosbel2:They didn't respond after the picture evidence. ![]() |
Re: Deeper Life Bible Church: Facts No One Would Tell You About The Church by oyinda1599(f): 9:27pm On Dec 18, 2017 |
enemyofprogress:I sent u a msg,check ur mail box. |
Re: Deeper Life Bible Church: Facts No One Would Tell You About The Church by Nobody: 9:55pm On Dec 18, 2017 |
frosbel2:Your case is different |
Re: Deeper Life Bible Church: Facts No One Would Tell You About The Church by lonikit: 9:58pm On Dec 18, 2017 |
Makuos: wht happen to verse 12? the Timothy that u quoted was it God that was speaking there?? besides, wht did he say in the last verse of that chapter. why are u quoting from old testament too. quote Jesus word where he said u shud seek God's wil in marriage or u show me any example In the new testament. u are so gullible. also tell us where Kumuyi says those wearing jewel are goin to hell?? |
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