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Re: The 2019 Presidential Elections And The Current Noipolls by tobiasbeecher: 3:45pm On Dec 18, 2017
Mynd44:
When I tell people that Presidnet Buhari has the NE locked even if Atiku runs they say it is a lie.

No matter who contests, Buhari will get about 80-85% of the votes from the NE and 75% of NW. He will probably get 50% of the NC.

With these numbers, it will take a miracle for him to lose in 2019.

Which leads me to say Although President Buhari has not done enough to merit a second term, he will win the elections in 2019.
Mr man analyzing politics is not your forte, go back to what you know how to do best - banning people.

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Re: The 2019 Presidential Elections And The Current Noipolls by NgeneUkwenu(f): 3:46pm On Dec 18, 2017
Nowenuse:


Rubbish. North central can hardly be rigged! Why didn't you include Plateau & Nasarawa to your fake wish na.

Bello can only rig election in Ebira axis. He cannot try that in Igala and Okun areas. And that is useless cos as usual Ebiras always vote for Buhari and they are in minority.

As for Benue state, Tivs do not play such nonsense politics of rigging. Go and check history of Benue elections.

Buhari has been winning Nasarrawa State, no need to add it...

Election has always been rigged in NC until the introduction of Card Reader in 2015...

Election rigging prevalent in Nigeria now, since the introduction of CARD READERS is Vote Buying? And Bello and Otorm will deploy it the same way Obiano and Adams Oshiomole did in Anambra and Edo states respectively..

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Re: The 2019 Presidential Elections And The Current Noipolls by Nowenuse: 3:47pm On Dec 18, 2017
Caseless:
lol NC has never been his stronghold. But he's gonna win there too, by God's grace.

Buhari can never win NC. Impossible. He can only win Niger state and perhaps Kwara state (if Saraki supports him).
Re: The 2019 Presidential Elections And The Current Noipolls by NgeneUkwenu(f): 3:49pm On Dec 18, 2017
Reference:
Save any catastrophic implosion next year Buhari will return with a wider margin. The PDP will simply not be ready for 2019. The Sheriff took way too much time and resources out of the beleaguered party. And I think it might be the best for Nigeria. We want to see a post Buhari era emerge before they face real competition or we may just return to a one party state because the PDP will get it right eventually but hopefully not to dominate as they used to.

The Best COMMENT so far!

However it will dicey for the 2 parties in 2023...when there are expected to field Southerners as their Presidential candidates..

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Re: The 2019 Presidential Elections And The Current Noipolls by Nowenuse: 3:50pm On Dec 18, 2017
NgeneUkwenu:


Buhari has been winning Nasarrawa State, no need to add it...

Election has always been rigged in NC until the introduction of Card Reader in 2015...

Election rigging prevalent in Nigeria now, since the introduction of CARD READERS is Vote Buying? And Bello and Otorm will deploy it the same way Obiano and Adams Oshiomole did in Anambra and Edo states respectively..

Which Nasarawa state? The one in China or Nigeria?
Buhari has never won Nasarawa, pls go and check your records again. In 2015, Plateau and Nasarawa together with FCT were the places he did not win in North central.

Pls stop embarrassing yourself here cos you are speaking with a core north-central indigene!

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Re: The 2019 Presidential Elections And The Current Noipolls by JANK23H(m): 3:50pm On Dec 18, 2017
NgeneUkwenu:


You guys seems to forget about the power of Money and incumbent factor...

Bello of Kogi, Otorm Of Benue States, Will deploy everything to make sure Buhari wins the presidential polls before their own election two weeks after..

Ebonyi, Abia, Enugu, Cross River, Akwa Ibom States are more interested in their second tenures than any Useless presidential election..they would not want to offend Baba, for fear of arming their opponents against them in their own election..So Buhari will lose marginally in all these states mentioned..

While APC will win Anambra State, because of the kind of people they will present for Senate and House of reps..and all the elections will take place the same time, same date!
What kind of kindergarten analysis is this?

Re: The 2019 Presidential Elections And The Current Noipolls by Nowenuse: 3:53pm On Dec 18, 2017
safarigirl:
even in previous elections, Buhari has always had NE and NW on lockdown, but he failed four times for a reason.

Aside Kaduna and maybe Nassarawa, I doubt the actual states in NC that gave Buhari support will be pro-APC considering the atrocities APC has committed in those states...specifically Benue and Kogi states

Also, do not discount SW, they were also instrumental to his win.

Bear in mind, the strikes that have happened this year will also have impacts on the opinion of people

By next year, we will get a clearer picture of how things will pan out

Pls pls get your facts correct.

Buhari has never won elections in Nasarawa state, not in 2011, not in 2015.
Re: The 2019 Presidential Elections And The Current Noipolls by Threebear(m): 3:55pm On Dec 18, 2017
Mynd44:

Yes. Guess what?

They all came to pass so take several seats and be humble
LMAO
Re: The 2019 Presidential Elections And The Current Noipolls by Fiaburnthem: 3:55pm On Dec 18, 2017
bedspread:
EXACTLY THE SAME WAY CNN AND MEDIA HOUSES DECIEVED Hilary Clinton, Obama and The Democratic Party IN THE USA PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS...............

BUHARI /OYEGUN/APC WILL BE SHOCKED BEYOND REASONABLE DOUBT WHEN SOMEONE ELSE IS DECLARED WINNER..........
THE DEFEAT WILL BE UNEXPLAINABLE
there will be no Russia invention in this type of election... The only thing that will happen is the type of SHAME that will hit you like a pack of thunder after buhari has been declared the winner of 2019 General election... Just watch and see

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Re: The 2019 Presidential Elections And The Current Noipolls by safarigirl(f): 3:57pm On Dec 18, 2017
Nowenuse:


Pls pls get your facts correct.

Buhari has never won elections in Nasarawa state, not in 2011, not in 2015.
okay. I stand corrected then.

However, APC has won elections there

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Re: The 2019 Presidential Elections And The Current Noipolls by Caseless: 3:59pm On Dec 18, 2017
safarigirl:
PDP always wins Abuja. Even in 2015 PDP won Abuja.

I'm in Abuja, I know this
Buhari, I think , only lost in Abuja twice. And not with a wide margin.
2015
ABUJA
PDP – 157,195
APC – 146,399


2011
253-pdp

130k -cpc

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Re: The 2019 Presidential Elections And The Current Noipolls by Kennydoc(m): 4:01pm On Dec 18, 2017
Mynd44:
When I tell people that Presidnet Buhari has the NE locked even if Atiku runs they say it is a lie.

No matter who contests, Buhari will get about 80-85% of the votes from the NE and 75% of NW. He will probably get 50% of the NC.

With these numbers, it will take a miracle for him to lose in 2019.

Which leads me to say Although President Buhari has not done enough to merit a second term, he will win the elections in 2019.

Bro, Buhari CANNOT get 80-85% of NE votes if someone from the NE contests under PDP. What are you even saying?
He has that much support from the NE for now cos it isn't clear who he's going to contest with.

By Dec 2013, there wasn't any clear possibility that Jonathan would lose 2015 election. It wasn't until Buhari won APC ticket that the reality dawned on PDP and GEJ.
It's still too early to declare victory for Buhari.
Re: The 2019 Presidential Elections And The Current Noipolls by Nowenuse: 4:03pm On Dec 18, 2017
safarigirl:
okay. I stand corrected then.

However, APC has won elections there

Yes, APC won governorship elections in Nasarawa and even in Plateau state but lost presidential. The reason is simple -- INTERNAL TRIBALISM!

Eggon/Mada are the largest tribe in Nasarawa state and all the other tribes in the state are working against them from producing governor, cos they know what they will be in for.

Same thing in Plateau state, all the other tribes ganged up against Berom (the largest tribe) cos it was obvious that this tribe through Jang wanted to turn Plateau to their private estate.
Re: The 2019 Presidential Elections And The Current Noipolls by Mynd44: 4:04pm On Dec 18, 2017
Kennydoc:


Bro, Buhari CANNOT get 80-85% of NE votes if someone from the NE contests under PDP. What are you even saying?
He has that much support from the NE for now cos it isn't clear who he's going to contest with.

By Dec 2013, there wasn't any clear possibility that Jonathan would lose 2015 election. It wasn't until Buhari won APC ticket that the reality dawned on PDP and GEJ.
It's still too early to declare victory for Buhari.
By Jan 2014, it was clear GEJ was going to lose if Tinubu and Buhari formed an alliance.

Go to the NE and tell the farners and the people who lived under fear of Boko haram to vote for you and see what happens

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Re: The 2019 Presidential Elections And The Current Noipolls by mabea: 4:09pm On Dec 18, 2017
From my experience igbos dont vote tribe. APGA or no APGA igbos will always vote the one popular with them.
Re: The 2019 Presidential Elections And The Current Noipolls by maestroferddi: 4:09pm On Dec 18, 2017
Who pays attention to this pie-in-the-sky of a forecast?

Probably sponsored by APC elements to shore up Buhari's dwindling electoral fortunes.

Anybody voting for Buhari in 2019 should be ready to confront the consequences of angling/bargaining for bad products...
Re: The 2019 Presidential Elections And The Current Noipolls by Nowenuse: 4:10pm On Dec 18, 2017
Mynd44:

By Jan 2014, it was clear GEJ was going to lose if Tinubu and Buhari formed an alliance.

Go to the NE and tell the farners and the people who lived under fear of Boko haram to vote for you and see what happens

FYI , fulani herdsmen are now a worse threat in the NE to Boko haram...... And so far so good, it is clear that Buhari is taking sides with the fulani herdsmen.

Watch how the Bachama people, Jukun people, Mambilla, Higgi, Mbula, Tangale, Chamba, Marghi, Waja, Bura and all these non fulani and non kanuri tribes will vote massively against Buhari in 2019. ....They did it before in 2011 and will do it again in 2019.
Many people were just deceived by CHANGI in 2015 and have now realized their mistakes.

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Re: The 2019 Presidential Elections And The Current Noipolls by maestroferddi: 4:15pm On Dec 18, 2017
Mynd44:

By Jan 2014, it was clear GEJ was going to lose if Tinubu and Buhari formed an alliance.

Go to the NE and tell the farners and the people who lived under fear of Boko haram to vote for you and see what happens
Oga PDP and most astute political observers never saw PDP losing in 2015.

You think PDP or even Jonathan could have played long if they knew they were not going to win?

Let me say it for the umpteenth time that Buhari will not win a free and fair election in 2019.

Your likes are not more informed/savvy than a large number of APC leaders who have been expressing serious apprehension about 2019 given the current realities/dynamics on ground.
Re: The 2019 Presidential Elections And The Current Noipolls by Kennydoc(m): 4:18pm On Dec 18, 2017
Mynd44:

By Jan 2014, it was clear GEJ was going to lose if Tinubu and Buhari formed an alliance.

Go to the NE and tell the farners and the people who lived under fear of Boko haram to vote for you and see what happens

Not true! Most people didn't believe the alliance would succeed. It wasn't until after their convention and Buhari was elected that the eyes of people opened.
Moreover, the decamping of the n-PDP guys greatly increased APC chances.

North Easterners will vote their person cos whoever it is will take the fight against BH personal, not just as a political stuff. I'm sure you're well aware that the fight against BH is still very much active. They've killed over 1000 people this year.
Again hope you remember that Adamawa and Taraba that have suffered so much under the hands of Fulani herdsmen are also North Easterners.
Re: The 2019 Presidential Elections And The Current Noipolls by maestroferddi: 4:19pm On Dec 18, 2017
tobiasbeecher:

Mr man analyzing politics is not your forte, go back to what you know how to do best - banning people.
The guy has been writing crap all over the place.

The ignorance on display here is mind-boggling...
Re: The 2019 Presidential Elections And The Current Noipolls by Activeman391(m): 4:22pm On Dec 18, 2017
Well the NoI polls have given their part however time and event preceeding the 2019 election is still going to major a part towards how the votes will swing..
Re: The 2019 Presidential Elections And The Current Noipolls by ud4u: 4:25pm On Dec 18, 2017
APC has failed, you can deceive others not me
Re: The 2019 Presidential Elections And The Current Noipolls by aylipple: 4:33pm On Dec 18, 2017
Unfortunately, that's the situation we find ourselves; choosing between the devil and deep blue sea.Nonetheless, I concur with your submission that 2019 is Buhari's to either win or lose.
Mynd44:
When I tell people that Presidnet Buhari has the NE locked even if Atiku runs they say it is a lie.

No matter who contests, Buhari will get about 80-85% of the votes from the NE and 75% of NW. He will probably get 50% of the NC.

With these numbers, it will take a miracle for him to lose in 2019.

Which leads me to say Although President Buhari has not done enough to merit a second term, he will win the elections in 2019.
Re: The 2019 Presidential Elections And The Current Noipolls by nwatthu(m): 4:34pm On Dec 18, 2017
its practically impossible for Buhari to win a re-election., and certain that these 3 zones wil neva vote for him..SE,SS, and NC, he can share SW and NE with Atiku, now tell me, how Buhari can do this?you guys have forgoten that there is HUNGER, real HUNger in the land
nairavsdollars:
Unless APC rigs, i dont see how Atiku will not win the 2019 presidential election

Atiku and Buhari will share Northern votes

Atiku will capture South South and South East

Both men will also share South West vote
#teamatikulate
Re: The 2019 Presidential Elections And The Current Noipolls by nwatthu(m): 4:35pm On Dec 18, 2017
its practically impossible for Buhari to win a re-election., and certain that these 3 zones wil neva vote for him..SE,SS, and NC, he can share SW and NE with Atiku, now tell me, how Buhari can do this?you guys have forgoten that there is HUNGER, real HUNger in the land
Activeman391:
With the dates already set in 2019 for the elections and with 2/3 of the current administration’s tenure all but used up, we are in a position to gauge the possible re-election chances of the APC federal government and the possible chances of a PDP candidate.

The most recent NOIpolls (which can be viewed on www.noi-polls.com ) as of the time of writing is quite informative. Buhari’s strongest area of strength is in the North East zone. 80% of people there either approve of or strongly approve of Buhari’s performance thus far. Only 10% of people either disapprove or strongly disapprove of Buhari’s performance and only 10% are on the fence as they neither approve nor disapprove of his performance. This is bad news for Atiku as he appears very unlikely to be able to move significant support from his home zone as they appear locked in for Buhari. American pollsters tend to state that most of those on the fence tend to break for the challenger or they fail to turn up at all depending on the candidate put up by the opposition. The most Atiku (or anyone else from the NE) can obtain from the NE would therefore be about 18%.
The North West is the second most entrenched supporting zone for Buhari. 75% of people in Nigeria’s most populous zone is locked in for Buhari (as they either approve or strongly approve of Buhari’s performance). Only 7% are on the fence and 18% of people either disapprove or strongly disapprove of Buhari’s performance. 25% support being the maximum support obtainable from the NW. A candidate from the NW would probably be a most unwise choice for the PDP.

North Central is Buhari’s third most electorally strong zone and the third strongest area of entrenched opposition to a Buhari presidency. 46% of people either support or strongly support Buhari’s government. However, 43% however strongly oppose or oppose Buhari’s government. 11% of people in the North Central are on the fence. They may either vote for PDP or not vote at all depending on the candidate PDP puts up. In my view, this is the most viable zone from where to select a presidential candidate for the PDP (if PDP is going to choose a candidate from the North).

The SW is the area of strongest support for Buhari in the South. 37% of people approve or strongly approve of Buhari’s performance. However 38% disapproves or strongly disapproves. Importantly, 25% of people of the SW have no opinion either way. This is a very tricky position for Buhari here and his performance in 2019 will depend on how much PDP will be perceived to be an anti Yoruba party as well as the candidate (and his /her vice candidate) selected by the PDP as a competitor to Buhari.

SE is a most interesting zone. 19% of people have positive support for Buhari. 46% have entrenched opposition to Buhari with 35% on the fence. With APGA likely to present a presidential candidate in 2019 and with 35% of people in that zone on the fence when it comes to perception of Buhari’s performance, it is unclear whether a VP choice by the PDP will be enough to swing support to the PDP as opposed to a candidate of igbo origin from APGA. APGA provides a serious headache to the PDP (especially if the PDP chooses a Northern presidential candidate and even if the PDP selects an igbo as such persons vice presidential candidate) and the most likely source of comfort for a Buhari presidency.

The SS zone has the largest entrenched opposition to Buhari at 49%. 26% however have locked in support for Buhari. 25% are therefore undecided. In the absence of party specific to the SS competing with the PDP for the undecided 25% of the vote, it appears entirely logical for the PDP to select a person from the SS as its VP candidate that would help it lock in the 25% of people that have neither a positive or negative view of Buhari’s performance 2/3 into Buhari’s first term.

With the SE and SW having very high undecided voters, PDP will be in a very tricky situation. PDP has to contend with a very strong APGA party that is unlikely to sit things out as it did for GEJ in 2019. If APGA chooses an Igbo person as its main candidate for the presidency then chances are that the PDP will be competing with APGA for 81% of the vote of the zone that combines those on the fence and those that oppose or strongly oppose Buhari. The SW will also be tricky. It has a VP on the current ticket yet it has 25% of its people neither positively or negatively disposed to Buhari. The issue then is whether that 25% will be converted to positive support for a Northern PDP candidate that does not have a SW PDP vice presidential candidate.

Buhari is a weakened candidate from all accounts. He has not added to his core areas of electoral strength from 2015. However, he is likely to be aided by APGA’s intention to select a presidential candidate of igbo extraction and the possibility that a VP choice from either of the zones of the south is likely to depress participation from the large body of fence warmers from the non selected zones of the south.

Source:
https://m.thenigerianvoice.com/news/261129/the-2019-presidential-elections-and-the-current-noipolls.html
Re: The 2019 Presidential Elections And The Current Noipolls by robosky02(m): 4:38pm On Dec 18, 2017
Mynd44:

By Jan 2014, it was clear GEJ was going to lose if Tinubu and Buhari formed an alliance.

Go to the NE and tell the farners and the people who lived under fear of Boko haram to vote for you and see what happens

leave book haram matter
what of all the failed promises? undecided

Re: The 2019 Presidential Elections And The Current Noipolls by bedspread: 4:49pm On Dec 18, 2017
Fiaburnthem:
there will be no Russia invention in this type of election... The only thing that will happen is the type of SHAME that will hit you like a pack of thunder after buhari has been declared the winner of 2019 General election... Just watch and see
KEEP DECIEVING YOURSELF.... THE SAME HAMMER FROM ABOVE THAT HIT HILARY CLINTON AND DEMOCRATIC PARTY WILL HIT U AND U MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO RECOVER..... UNTIL U UNDERSTAND THAT IT IS GOD THAT APPOINTS KINGS AND NOT RUSSIA

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Re: The 2019 Presidential Elections And The Current Noipolls by bedspread: 4:52pm On Dec 18, 2017
bkool7:




Hillary did win the majority votes .
Trump just won the important ones .
If it were to be Nja , Hillary would be the winner
YOU ARE WAILING.... HV U HEARD THAT FROM ANY AMERICAN... UOU SEAT DOWN AND TYPE TRASH...
DID THEY TELL U OBAMA WON MAJORITY
ITS GOD THAT APPOINTS WHOEVER HE WISHES...
Re: The 2019 Presidential Elections And The Current Noipolls by fidukpong: 4:58pm On Dec 18, 2017
Pool my foot. Propaganda govt. Anybody can set this up. Let all hands be on deck, 2019 still far.
Re: The 2019 Presidential Elections And The Current Noipolls by otil1: 5:14pm On Dec 18, 2017
NgeneUkwenu:


The Best COMMENT so far!

However it will dicey for the 2 parties in 2023...when there are expected to field Southerners as their Presidential candidates..

"Best COMMENT" to you because he said what you dream about. Dream on Ngene. See how all commentators from North Central have changed their voews about the bigot. You teally have work to do.

Truth be said, Buhari is not what Nigerians thought he was. Buhari has been unmasked!

The terrain can't be the same again
Re: The 2019 Presidential Elections And The Current Noipolls by kelechi17(m): 5:20pm On Dec 18, 2017
Angelb4:
This election that has become the most talked-about topic in Nigeria is a done deal. Those who think President Buhari will rig before winning will be disappointed. They will have to wait till 2023. Atiku CANNOT see Buhari's shadow in the entire North and South-west. South-East will be shared, South-South can be given out.
U must b dreamin abt SE been shared

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