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The Truth About Tithing - Pastor Murphy Akpovi by Sheddywiz(m): 5:32pm On Dec 10, 2017 |
In view of the recent confusion about the Christian tradition of tithing and the seemingly inability of leaders of the of church to address the church properly, there has been a drastic reduction in the amount of active tithe believers in Nigeria Christendom today. I find it necessary therefore for this enlightenment not just for Christian brothers alone, but for critics like daddy freeze and all those who have little understanding of this subject matter. WHAT IS TITHE? it is necessary to understand that tithing as a word has no spiritual history. In fact it is the same word as the English word TEN and the Greek word DÉKA. In Hebraic terms tithe simply means One tenth of a whole. In tracing the history of tithing as a tradition we have to classify it into three eras to get a clearer picture. • The Blessing And The Designated Portion • The Law And Tithing • Modern Christianity And Tithing THE BLESSING AND THE DESIGNATED PORTION. When God created man (Adam) he blessed him and gave him absolute dominion over every other thing created by HIM. GEN 1: 27 - 30 (KJV) "...And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth..." When God gives a man blessings he requires that the man show him reverence by keeping for HIM his designated portion. See GEN 2:16&17 Adam through the urging of his wife Eve, ate from God's designated portion and the after effect was his eviction from the garden of Eden. Simply put he lost a forest of trees because he failed to give God back a tree. In Cain and Abel, the trend of a designated portion continues howbeit this time what was required of them Was The firstlings of all their produce. (Gen 4:3-5) and we see that because Cain disrespected God by not offering his firstlings, God acknowledged not his sacrifice. Noah Was The third occasion God instructed that a designated portion be kept for him. Gen 7:2 ; 8:20. God asked Noah to keep nine each of every creature, seven clean and two unclean. The latter seven he sacrificed to God after the flood. And from the other two began a new race. It must be understood that when God gave man THE BLESSING, it was infinite. But there was a clause. You MUST set aside his portion and when you fail to do so you lose your portion of that infinite blessing - your birthright. Going further we find Abraham and the first mention of a one tenth (tithe). Gen 14 : 17 - 20. Melchizedek here became the first high priest to receive tithe. When you receive wealth, two kings would come to you just like the two Abraham met. The king of Sodom which represents flesh and earthly cravings and the king of Salem the high priest of God. In paying your tithe not necessarily do you get wealth but rather you get wisdom to control finances. You get idea to achieve great things. You activate your natural birthright and inheritance which is THE BLESSING. THE LAW AND TITHING After the journey of the Israelites from Egypt, God through Moses made a covenant with the people of Israel after blessing them with Canaan Land. Part of that covenant was a duty to give God his due and designated portion. (Deut. 12 : 6; 14 : 22) Because he was the king and author of holiness, Just as he instructed Noah to set aside seven clean creatures for himself, he required the Israelites gave him in tithing only the things that were holy. (Deut 12 : 26) As you well know, Aaron was appointed by Moses as the high priest and the children of Levi as priests over Israel. So it became a tradition that tithe was given to God through the levites. MODERN CHRISTIANITY AND TITHING By the advent of Christ, after the long sojourn of the Israelites in foreign lands and their mix up with other races for a long time, the Jewish religion lost it's purity and what remained Was the people worshiping nonchalantly in the hope of a better future in that they anticipated the coming of a saviour. It was at this juncture Christ cautioned the Pharisees and the scribes that despite the fact that they do pay tithes yet they ignored other aspects of the law. Read Matt 23 : 23. Now critics argue that the law has been abolished hence, tithing no longer holds sway in our religion today. Hebrew 8:13 ; 10: 9. What many fail to understand today including those that have taken it upon themselves to lead the church astray is that despite the priesthood order of Aaron being changed, tithing stood. As you would have understood by now, the designated portion started long before the priesthood of Aaron and the children of Levi. (Heb 7: 9 - 10) Christ coming as a new breed of man not after the race of Adam but as a new Adam (a perfect man) was made high priest not according to the order of Aaron but the order of Melchizedek. (Heb 6:20 ; 7:17) Melchizedek had no beginning neither an end for he was only recorded once in the Bible ( Heb 7:1-3) and the only thing mentioned about him in the Bible was of him receiving TITHE from Abraham. If Christ was made then a priest forever after the order of Melchizedek what would he be doing for eternity than performing the same duty Melchizedek performed and was known for? See Heb 7 : 8 For a better understanding of the change of priesthood and the law, Christ's ordination as high priest, read the whole of Hebrews chapter 7&8 meticulously. Also read psalms 110:4, Heb 5:9-10, Heb 6: 20, Heb, 9: 11. All these scriptures above clearly defined Christ's stand as a high priest forever after the order of Melchizedek. WHY IS IT WRONG TO GIVE YOUR TITHES TO THE LESS PRIVILEGED? Hebrews 7:6 "But he whose descent is not counted from them received tithes of Abraham, and blessed him that had the promises. 7:7 And without all contradiction the less is blessed of the better." Clearly the scripture above states that the receiver is of a higher standing than the giver of tithe. Hence it is only a man spiritually higher than you that is in a position to receive your tithes. TO WHOM SHOULD TITHE BE PAID NOW? Hebrews 7:8 "And here men that die receive tithes; but there he receiveth them, of whom it is witnessed that he liveth." When you bring your tithe to the man of God, he stands to receive it on behalf of the high priest Christ. He releases and activates your natural inheritance which is THE BLESSING by the virtue of his spiritual standing. WHY DID JESUS HIS APOSTLES NOT PAY TITHE Christ being the high priest forever, could not pay tithe to another priest after the priesthood order had been changed. Being with the high priest himself they had all ready given all that they had leaving their profession and worldly possessions for the advancement of the gospel. As recorded in the Bible, tithes are only paid from finances earned. Since the apostles were not earners they relied on the populace for upkeep. Pastor Murphy Akpovi speaks. He is the lead pastor, KINGDOM ENVOY MINISTRIES. For questions, explanations and further interactions reach out to Kingdom Envoy via email kingdomenvoynigeria@gmail.com Follow us on facebook and instagram - Kingdom Envoy & Akpovi Murphy Call us via mobile +234-8098912544
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Re: The Truth About Tithing - Pastor Murphy Akpovi by attorius(m): 12:40pm On Dec 13, 2017 |
hmmmmm. |
Re: The Truth About Tithing - Pastor Murphy Akpovi by Nobody: 1:26pm On Dec 13, 2017 |
The major secret of billionaires is their ability to find solutions to the challenges of humanity. All of them created solutions that brought the billions. Presently, Bill Gates is spending millions of dollars in search of renewable energy. By the time he finds one and become a major player in the electricity industry, we will say he is lucky. But we forget that he didn't pray for financial breakthrough, he only found a solution to a global problem. Wealthy people don't necessarily look for money, they create solutions, and money will follow them! Larry Page and Sergey Brin went all out to help humanity find things faster on the internet, and billions of dollars followed them. Mark Zuckerberg created platforms for socialization, and over $71 billion followed him. Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak went all out to reduce the size of computer. What problems are you solving for humanity? Some people spend weeks on the mountain praying for financial breakthrough without knowing what to do to be rich. They just want to be rich anyhow. It doesn't work that way. Real wealth comes through solving problems. Real wealth comes when we take a critical look around us, see the challenges that surrounds us, and proffer solutions to them. One of the major reasons why millions of Africans live below the poverty line is our belief that magic wands will suddenly mint money for us. How many cups of mustard seeds did Mark Zuckerberg ate that made him an 'instant' billionaire? How many bottles of anointing oil did Jeff Bezos drink that turned him into an overnight owner of Amazon? I'm not belittling prayer, but most of us pray amiss. This is how potential billionaires pray: "Dear Lord, NIGERIA has electricity problem and I want to solve it. Lord, baptize me with fresh ideas on how to solve this problem, and connect me to the right partners to make it happen. Thank you Lord." [/i]God will definitely download creative ideas into their minds. Unfortunately, this is how majority of us pray: "[i]Oh Lord, I command anyone who said that I will not prosper to collapse and die by fire!" Another person will say: "Lord, I need financial favour. I need divine connections. I need financial breakthrough urgently". Lord send money to me today." When God listen to our prayers sometimes, I believe He will look down from the balcony of heaven and wonder why we failed to understand that wealth creation opportunities surrounds us". Dear friend, it is time to change your thinking and prayer pattern. Stop looking for shortcut to the top, start looking for the problems you can solve for humanity. Money is actually a reward for solving problems for people. Keep soaring! 9 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: The Truth About Tithing - Pastor Murphy Akpovi by soulfood(m): 2:03pm On Dec 13, 2017 |
Well said. |
Re: The Truth About Tithing - Pastor Murphy Akpovi by lovingJehovah: 2:05pm On Dec 13, 2017 |
No true Christian tithes. You cannot pour new wine into an old wineskin. Tithing is for the Jews and not for Christians. You cannot claim to tithe and be a Christian at the same time. It is an insult to the law of Christ. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Truth About Tithing - Pastor Murphy Akpovi by smulti(m): 6:27pm On Dec 13, 2017 |
Nigerians pray 24/7 year after year but common electricity problems their prayers couldn't find a solution to it Why the numerous crusades and dry fastings not have given us a good leader over the years all I see is hypocritical beings chasing shadows . 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Truth About Tithing - Pastor Murphy Akpovi by otokx(m): 6:54pm On Dec 13, 2017 |
smulti: Say it again. 1 Like |
Re: The Truth About Tithing - Pastor Murphy Akpovi by Nobody: 12:32am On Dec 14, 2017 |
lovingJehovah:True Christians tithe. They tithe because they love God. |
Re: The Truth About Tithing - Pastor Murphy Akpovi by Nobody: 12:35am On Dec 14, 2017 |
smulti:Nigeria problem is from the mind. Until we change our mind nothing will change. We are the government but we let politicians deceive us with sweet talk same way Satan deceive Eve |
Re: The Truth About Tithing - Pastor Murphy Akpovi by lovingJehovah: 3:06am On Dec 14, 2017 |
How can you love God when you deny the ransom sacrifice of Jesus by continuing in the law of Moses? Jesus gave us a new law called the Law of Christ and Tithing has no place in it. There are no Levites today and the Bible says that he took that law away when he was impaled on the stake. If you love God, Jesus said that if you do it to the least of his disciples then you did it for him. You cannot do it for your daddy and pretend that you did anything for Jesus. asuustrike2009: 1 Like |
Re: The Truth About Tithing - Pastor Murphy Akpovi by Nobody: 9:28am On Dec 14, 2017 |
lovingJehovah:Jesus didn't the law neither did he say we shouldn't pay tithe. From Genesis to revelation, there is no verse that expressly say we shouldn't pay tithe. |
Re: The Truth About Tithing - Pastor Murphy Akpovi by OkaiCorne(m): 3:48pm On Dec 18, 2017 |
asuustrike2009: From Genesis to Revelation, I did not see any verse that expressly states that we shouldn't stop obeying these instructions from God; Deutoronomy 22 v 11-12; 11"You shall not wear a material mixed of wool and linen together. 12"You shall make yourself tassels on the four corners of your garment with which you cover yourself.… Leviticus 19:19 'You are to keep My statutes. You shall not breed together two kinds of your cattle; you shall not sow your field with two kinds of seed, nor wear a garment upon you of two kinds of material mixed together. 1) If you are not doing these, what could be your reasons sir? 2) Where in the scriptures did God instruct His children to pay tithes as gold and silver (money)? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: The Truth About Tithing - Pastor Murphy Akpovi by SweetJoystick(m): 5:13pm On Dec 18, 2017 |
Lies from the pit of hell. These men like twisting scriptures just to justify the greatest fraud being executed by them. 1. tithe was never money nor any financial increase, it was agricultural products/food. 2. It was a more of like a social welfare package for the Levites, orphans and widows who God loves and cherries. Psalm 68 vs 5. 3. There was money at that time yet God didn't make tithe money, he made it edible, it was meant to be eaten in his presence. Malachi 3 vs 10. Says that they may be food in the store house, not money in the store house. 4. Jesus didn't receive tithe because he was from the tribe of Judah, only Levites were permitted because they had no inheritance. 5. Deuteronomy 14: 24-27 in that passage, the Jews were advised to sell their tithe if they were far away and exchange it for money, travel down, not to bring the money to the temple but use the money from the proceeds from the sale of the crops to repurchase another set of crops and take to the temple and eat. You see that money was already in use as far back as at the time of Aaron/Moses. God has a reason for not making tithe money but edibles. 6. Tithe was tied to the land meaning those who engaged in farming crops or rearing animals did tithe. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Truth About Tithing - Pastor Murphy Akpovi by SweetJoystick(m): 5:28pm On Dec 18, 2017 |
asuustrike2009:Big fat lie. They tithe because they have been brainwashed. They tithe because they can't come to agree what they grew up to is a big time fraud. They tithe because they worship their pastors and not God. They tithe because they are too lazy to read to search the truth themselves by seeking the word of God but prefer to swallow everything their god (man) says is the word of God. They tithe because they have been bullied that they are cursed if they don't tithe, that God won't bless them. They tithe because they feel they can bribe God with % 10. They tithe because they lack simple understanding that tithe was never financial increase, they was money as far back as Aaron/Moses time yet in Deuteronomy 14, 24-28 the people were advised to sell their agricultural products and travel down to the town God chose if they are far away, use the money from the sale of the initial tithe to be given and repurchase another set of agricultural products and eat in the temple by not forgetting the Levites, widows and orphans. Malachi 3 talks about food in store house, not money. Even Jesus when he spoke about tithe, he said they were careful to tithe their crops, not money. Not long he was betrayed for 30 pieces of silver, there was money in his time too. 1 Like |
Re: The Truth About Tithing - Pastor Murphy Akpovi by Goodness4525: 6:35pm On Dec 18, 2017 |
[quote author=asuustrike2009 post=63269523]Jesus said it openly ,clearly through Paul Hebrews 7:1-19 gala 3:9-13,1:8-10 read it and u will no u ar one under a curse for preaching and obeying tithe commandment |
Re: The Truth About Tithing - Pastor Murphy Akpovi by Nobody: 8:13pm On Dec 18, 2017 |
SweetJoystick:Read your Bible from the beginning to the end and see things for yourself. Tithing is a command and our Lord Jesus endorses it |
Re: The Truth About Tithing - Pastor Murphy Akpovi by SweetJoystick(m): 8:18pm On Dec 18, 2017 |
asuustrike2009:smh as usual same gibberish 1 Like |
Re: The Truth About Tithing - Pastor Murphy Akpovi by Nobody: 8:28pm On Dec 18, 2017 |
OkaiCorne:The issue is on tithe. Still to what is being discussed instead of deviating |
Re: The Truth About Tithing - Pastor Murphy Akpovi by Nobody: 8:37pm On Dec 18, 2017 |
SweetJoystick:Study the Bible yourself and see whether the lord was against tithing. The Bible wasn't against tithing. It's a practice that has being there from immemorial |
Re: The Truth About Tithing - Pastor Murphy Akpovi by OkaiCorne(m): 9:23pm On Dec 18, 2017 |
asuustrike2009: The issues I raised has a whole lot to do with tithes. Afterall, tithing is not the only law God handed down to man...so why disobey the others that were never abolished from Genesis to Revelation like I raised, but still stick to tithing as mandatory for Christians? By the way, where in the scriptures did God instruct His children to pay tithes in gold and silver (money) instead of crops and livestock? 1 Like |
Re: The Truth About Tithing - Pastor Murphy Akpovi by Nobody: 9:27pm On Dec 18, 2017 |
OkaiCorne:Do you use cowries to trade? |
Re: The Truth About Tithing - Pastor Murphy Akpovi by nicemuyoo: 9:36pm On Dec 18, 2017 |
Abrahams tithe was a custom of the land over practiced back then. If you go on war and you are successful. You give a percentage commonly 10% of your spoil of wars to the king/ priest of the land or area where you live. It is a cultural practise of the land . Pagans do it too and That is a fact. Abraham did not tithe out is abundant profits as he was already blessed before giving a tithe of the spoils of war! God order by law through Moses that ONLY 1% of the spoils of war should be given to the levites/ priest. Tithing spoils of war and tithing your profit are two different things. Abraham never tithe out of is personal profit. Jesus, James, Paul, Peter never taught tithing or collected tithe. They mat have made reference to it while making or discussing another issue but no teaching on tithing Fact! The support Paul was all about is helping travelling ministers not resident and stationary ones. Help them via donations for bare necessities not luxury!! And not via tithe. Only bare necessities so they are not impoverish . Paul said he would rather die than demand for provision from the church( bare necessities mind you). We are not like those that pedal the gospel of our lord. Are you a hiring doing it for return or you are a bride that does the work free out of a love for the bridegroom!! This have been twisted today into tithe and exploitation which our saviour never commanded. Placing heavy burden on people like the Pharisee twisting the word of God saying if you make a vow to give to God you can fulfil that vow first even if it means neglecting your parents. So you nullify the word of God to sooth our own teachings. And Jesus said you do many other things like that! Jesus, Paul, James, Peter taught about given & donation, that has all been ignored by today's church, bringing back what was established in church in 777AD by other of roman emperor, which they have long abandoned in catholic and uk churches due to revolt/ riot by the population. Do you know the history? Do you research. Lastly tithe as never used fortemple/ church maintenance as it is food and it is an ABOMINATION to use tithe for ANYTHING OTHER THAN FEED THE LEVITES AND LESS PREVILEGED. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Truth About Tithing - Pastor Murphy Akpovi by OkaiCorne(m): 9:50pm On Dec 18, 2017 |
asuustrike2009: Whether I use cowries or trade by barter to do business...does it change the fact that: 1) God clearly instructed what should be tithed is crops and livestock despite the fact that money (gold and silver) existed since the days of Abraham? 2) Tithes we're never paid in silver or gold even during and after the glorious era of Solomon? Now, do you know more than God who instructed what should be tithed OR do you want to add to His words? 2 Likes |
Re: The Truth About Tithing - Pastor Murphy Akpovi by SweetJoystick(m): 10:12pm On Dec 18, 2017 |
asuustrike2009:Shut up if you don't have anything reasonable to say 1 Like |
Re: The Truth About Tithing - Pastor Murphy Akpovi by Goodness4525: 10:31pm On Dec 18, 2017 |
if anybody teaches, pay tithe in this era it is due to only two reason 1' those pastor who no the truth but they are strictly under the course of the GO who is sole-propietorship of the biz and 2nd out of ignorance .Any Christian who give in the name of tithe is under the curse of the Judaism religion and pastors who teach likewise is also under a curse of gala 1;8 .All this argument is as a result of the white man adage that says if u want to hide something from a black man put that thing inside a book 2 Likes |
Re: The Truth About Tithing - Pastor Murphy Akpovi by Nobody: 11:27pm On Dec 18, 2017 |
SweetJoystick:Mr sabi sabi study your Bible and stop behaving like a child |
Re: The Truth About Tithing - Pastor Murphy Akpovi by Nobody: 11:28pm On Dec 18, 2017 |
OkaiCorne:You haven't answered the question? Do you trade with cowries? |
Re: The Truth About Tithing - Pastor Murphy Akpovi by aolawale025: 11:51pm On Dec 18, 2017 |
Melchizedek was Shem. Noah's son. And he was a priest of the most high. The tribe of Levi decended from him. They are the only priests entitled to collect tithes. That tribe is lost today. Jesus descended from the tribe of Judah. Even though he can also be called a priest of the order of Melchizedek. There is no record of him collecting tithe. Neither did the apostles collect tithes as well. Now Jesus and the apostles were Jews. In fact Mary sacrificed two turtle doves the first time she took Jesus to the temple as was the Jewish custom. Jesus must have known about tithing since the Levi priest were also in jerusalem at the time. Why was there no record of him collecting? Christianity as a religion evolved 300 years after Jesus died. And it all started in Rome. Now Jesus died so that all old things pass away and is born again. That is why the laws in the books of Moses still apply to the Jews today but not to Christians. What I don't understand is why tithes is now singled out to apply to Christians. 1 Like |
Re: The Truth About Tithing - Pastor Murphy Akpovi by OkaiCorne(m): 4:59am On Dec 19, 2017 |
asuustrike2009: NOPE...And this is to demonstrate to you the folly of; 1) Pouring old wine in a new wine skin 2) Fitting a square peg (tithing) in a round hole (new covenant) God Almighty and Jesus knew that the only permanent thing in life is change, and that is why a new covenant replaced the old covenant. Sacrificial giving from a cheerful heart driven by LOVE and the Holy Spirit...replaced obligatory tithes and offerings. Kindly read Matthew 25 v 31-46 and tell me if tithing is required for me to qualify for the kingdom of Heaven. Sacrificial giving is not limited to 10% of crops and livestock unlike the tithe model of giving under the old covenant. IF YOU WANT TO TITHE, TITHE IN LINE WITH THE INSTRUCTIONS GIVEN DIRECTLY BY GOD, DO NOT ADD TO HIS WORDS TO JUSTIFY MONETARY TITHING. Cheers. |
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