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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Jarus(m): 3:40pm On Dec 19, 2017 |
goldfish80: Nigerians are shouting Chelsea won the league so Moses must be African best. He wasn't even among the 4 Chelsea players that made the team of the season. Mane that didn't even the league made the list. These are simply based on individual performance not team. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 3:40pm On Dec 19, 2017 |
BascoVanVeli: Your comment was rhetoric. It appeared you wanted to argue that Mane didn't make the team of the season. The bottom line is that, the 3 aforementioned players were the main stars (call it figure head or match winner's ) for their teams. While Moses was just another functional component in Chelsea's wheel of success. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 3:46pm On Dec 19, 2017 |
Kog45: He was a big party to the 3-4-3 revolution that took over last season. I remember that even here some of our best and brightest predicted that the system would never work. My argument then and now is that Victor Moses is a major reason why things work out. We have seen them underperform countless times when he is not in the game. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 3:47pm On Dec 19, 2017 |
Icon79:If you noticed, this was the PFA team of the season. The players themselves voted for their peers who stood out during the season. It doesn't get more authentic than this. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Jarus(m): 3:50pm On Dec 19, 2017 |
M Daejoyoung: Your analysis makes sense. No way you can ignore world rating. Aubameyang is more world renowned. That said, I think even at that Aubameyang did as much as if not better than Moses in 2016/2017. This guy was the top scorer in Bundesliga for that season, the first African to get that. He was Bundesliga player of the season. He was the top scorer despite missing matches during AFCON absence. He was in the class of top 5 strikers in the world. No way Moses would have edged out such a player. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Jarus(m): 3:52pm On Dec 19, 2017 |
BascoVanVeli: 4 Chelsea players made PFA EPL 11. Moses did not. If he was that critical, he should make the list. If he was that critical |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 3:54pm On Dec 19, 2017 |
goldfish80: How can u even utter such? This is when keeping it real goes too far. How could u watch the season that just past and describe Victor Moses as just another functional component? His introduction into the lineup coincided with their run that changed football. If he wasn't a Nigerian international he would have easily made that list. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 3:55pm On Dec 19, 2017 |
BascoVanVeli:There is need for our players to learn from KANU Nwankwo or else they would continue to fail to win APOTY. Pls check Kanu' s career as a player and analyse how he was so highly rated,if care is not taking you get confused cos his record with Super eagles wasn't impressive and even his club sides can be debated but the guy was always on the news cos he always seized the opportunity the moment he find himself in any big match and do wonder that cannot be erased in the world of football KANU won his first Africa best due to his magical performance against Brazil in Atlanta and won his second African best due to his great hat trick against Chelsea though he had some other outstanding matches but the Chelsea one was a great feat that cannot be ignored. There is need for our players to tell the outside world that they are not Nigeria player alone but World rated player,pls check out Aubemayang rating,this is world respected striker and Sallah is going that way too. Remember being the best is not enough to win it,Okocha failed to win it and average Victor Ikpeba won it with his exploit with Monaco despite not even a regular with super eagles.Emma Amuneke won it too but only Yekini won it due to his super eagles performance. I don't think CAF is biased with strong presence of Amaju as executive member but Nigeria players just need to repackage themselves as a world beater cos consistency matter a lot.Mind you if not for Toure Mikel would have won it in 2013 cos we had only him and Toure that year,remember Enyeama too Truly very saddened not to see Victor Moses in the last shortlisted three best players,not a good development for our football. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Jarus(m): 3:58pm On Dec 19, 2017 |
Icon79: Oga, more than 500 EPL players that did the voting know better than you. They knew Moses before considering Mane for EPL 11. World coaches and captains that picked Mane among top 30 in the world knew Moses before choosing Mane. But you sitting behind your TV thinks he did better than Mane. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 3:59pm On Dec 19, 2017 |
kennysville: Etebo might likely miss out of the 23-man list. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Jarus(m): 4:01pm On Dec 19, 2017 |
Kog45: Gbam 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 4:01pm On Dec 19, 2017 |
Jarus: So Aguero, Sanchez and Diego Costa were also noncritical abi? Only 11 can make the team, this does not have much to do with criticality. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Jarus(m): 4:03pm On Dec 19, 2017 |
BascoVanVeli: If he was so critical to Chelsea that trophy season, he should have made PFA 11 or FIFA 30. after all, his Chelsea teammates did. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 4:05pm On Dec 19, 2017 |
BascoVanVeli:Are you talking about 3-4-3 evolution in Chelsea or football World in general cos you said Moses changed football. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Jarus(m): 4:05pm On Dec 19, 2017 |
BascoVanVeli: Same way only 3 can make CAF final shortlist. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 4:07pm On Dec 19, 2017 |
BascoVanVeli:Please quit playing the victim's card. Senegal is a francophone country, yet a player from that country made the team of the season (as voted by the players themselves). For clarity, Hazard, Kante and Diego Costa were the star dust of the Chelsea success last season. Moses weighted in with his contribution but he was never the tie breaker for the Chelsea team. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Jarus(m): 4:10pm On Dec 19, 2017 |
Roma player of the season 16/17 = Salah Dortmund player of the season 16/17 = Aubameyang Liverpool player of the season 16/17 = Mane Let Moses win best player in his team first before comparing with the guys. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 4:11pm On Dec 19, 2017 |
Moses had a great season and was instrumental for Chelsea. BUT he was running against renowned goal scorers. His competition are oustanding players. I am not surprised, he is outside the top 3 It is very difficult for players in the unconventional wing back position to win major accolades unless he adds goals and assists to his game. The positive thing is that our players are starting to get nominated. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 4:12pm On Dec 19, 2017 |
Jarus: That is done by players who are mostly British. To put in perspective even Ighalo was overlooked for Watford players player of the season the year he finished as the top scorer in England. There is a bias toward non English players. 3 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 4:14pm On Dec 19, 2017 |
goldfish80: Who is ur victim? I'm just letting u know that the dig was uncalled for, u say Costa was a star but he didn't make the PFA so go figure. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 4:15pm On Dec 19, 2017 |
Jarus: What is the common thread amongst the 3? Goalscorers!! It is difficult for defensive minded player to win such accolades. Moses is critical to how Chelsea play but is unlikely he can win such awards unless he starts scoring and assisting a lot. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 4:18pm On Dec 19, 2017 |
Kog45: The world of course. Even we have used a dimension of it, that did not come out of the sky. Every team that uses it will be looking for wingbacks that mirror Victor Moses. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Jarus(m): 4:19pm On Dec 19, 2017 |
BascoVanVeli: Yeah Kante and Mahrez were English. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 4:19pm On Dec 19, 2017 |
BascoVanVeli:Well it seems you are not happy with Moses omission cos I know you knew Africa players like Drogba,Yaya Toure, Nwankwo Kanu,Emma Adebayour,Aiyegbeni Yakubu,Austin Okocha won numerous awards in EPL. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elyte89: 4:20pm On Dec 19, 2017 |
junnyjake: Forget he his going,his chances will b sealed once he makes his proposed move to Porto cos naturally if u re in a big club here in nija,ur slot sure |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 4:21pm On Dec 19, 2017 |
BascoVanVeli:OK i rest my case no need to go further. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 4:29pm On Dec 19, 2017 |
Jarus: I just tire for this African mentality u mention players that even a blind man won't overlook and this is to prove there is no bias? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Jarus(m): 4:29pm On Dec 19, 2017 |
tbaba1234: No, if you perform well enough, you will beat guys that score goals. Kante was voted EPL best. Not a goal scorer. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Jarus(m): 4:35pm On Dec 19, 2017 |
BascoVanVeli: Lol. Only blind men will overlook Salah, Mane and aubameyang for Moses. FIFA was not blind. World coaches are not blind. Over 500 EPL players cannot be blind. Bundesliga analysts are not blind. Italian journalists are not blind Chelsea fans are not blind. Liverpool fans are not blind. CAF technical committee are not blind BBC viewers are not blind But you here want us to believe they are blind to rank Mane, Salah and aubameyang high. Now we know who has African mentality. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 4:35pm On Dec 19, 2017 |
BascoVanVeli:We can't keep crying Wolf when things don't go our way,not in a well justifiable case such as this anyway. Diego Costa's 19 Premiership goals won 15 points for Chelsea in the season under review. Statistically, no player won more points for their team last season than Costa. This is pure gold if you ask me. Diego Costa is not a well loved character. Players loathe him and his antics. Its academic the players themselves wouldn't give him their vote. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 4:41pm On Dec 19, 2017 |
Jarus:I think Moses should consider it a privilege being in company of these guys. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 4:41pm On Dec 19, 2017 |
Jarus: Kante is a rarity.. Defensive minded players have to be ultra good to be noticed. 1 Like |
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