dopeJemi:


If Man City has the best squad, why do we have more players from other teams in the just concluded awards and nominations than City? after all, you guys claim they have the best squad

Tbf City do have the Best Squad In the League. However they also do have THE BEST MANAGER IN THE LEAGUE hence why they are 11 points ahead and still growing. This situation is quite similar to that of Chelsea's in the 2004/05 season under Mourinho.

The Best Squad + Best Manager combo is incredibly deadly. As I type now, only prayers and bad luck on the injury front the likes of which We have never seen before can stop these boys.

Greatihex:
so, hazard and Kante are a team?

Azpilicueta isn't better than Otamendi/Stones? Courtois isn't better than Ederson? Alonso isn't better than Delph?

atheist5:
this your logic ehh,two players at of a full squad means the squad of Chelsea is better?,what about the wingbacks, rest of midfield the bench,at least gundogan and barnado Silva will start for Chelsea,but they don't play for city when everybody is fit,pep is a great coach l no doubt but I have noticed that he doesn't "dominate" a league without having the best squad in the land,

Azpilicueta isn't better than Otamendi/Stones? Courtois isn't better than Ederson? Alonso isn't better than Delph?

Gundogan that has been injured for a year? Bernardo Silva wey just reach England? How many games has he even played. Abeg you guys should give credit and pay homage where its due.

larride:


How did FIFA and UEFA place Valencia over Walker? So Walker, Mendy, Sane, Jesus, Kompany will not walk into any other first team abi? Even Ederson. You are indeed very bright.

It will interest you to note that squad is not just about the 1st eleven, we are talking about the whole players. Mendy was a starter before his injury same for Kompany. We might even have likes for likes in our team but we don't have answer for either KDB or Silva, D Silva get injured they call on B Silva, they take out Fernandinho and put in Gundogan. Pogba gets red and we start Herrera or McTominay or Fellaini. Indeed we have a better squad than them. Go sleep Oga.

http://www.fifa.com/the-best-fifa-football-awards/news/y=2017/m=9/news=fifa-fifpro-world11-2017-shortlist-revealed-2908322.html

Tell me whose name you see and whose name you don't

A40:
Azpilicueta isn't better than Otamendi/Stones? Courtois isn't better than Ederson? Alonso isn't better than Delph?

Gundogan that has been injured for a year? Bernardo Silva wey just reach England? How many games has he even played. Abeg you guys should give credit and pay homage where its due.

alonso isn't better than Mendy who is starter for city before his injuring,azpilicueta is the best defender in the league,but otamendi and stones are FAR from mediocre players,city have a far better squad than Chelsea,admitting this does not take anything from pep it is a glaring fact

atheist5:
alonso isn't better than Mendy who is starter for city before his injuring,azpilicueta is the best defender in the league,but otamendi and stones are FAR from mediocre players,city have a far better squad than Chelsea,admitting this does not take anything from pep it is a glaring fact

The jury is still out on Mendy. That he was a stud at Monaco doesn't mean he can't be a bum at City as Bakanonsense has proven. Besides he has barely played

Their squad is not far better anything. Your strength is in defense and theirs in attack so it evens out

A40:
The jury is still out on Mendy. That he was a stud at Monaco doesn't mean he can't be a bum at City as Bakanonsense has proven. Besides he has barely played

Their squad is not far better anything. Your strength is in defense and theirs in attack so it evens out

lol what about midfield my guy?

chic2pimp:


Tbf City do have the Best Squad In the League. However they also do have THE BEST MANAGER IN THE LEAGUE hence why they are 11 points ahead and still growing. This situation is quite similar to that of Chelsea's in the 2004/05 season under Mourinho.

The Best Squad + Best Manager combo is incredibly deadly. As I type now, only prayers and bad luck on the injury front the likes of which We have seen before can stop these boys.

in this link http://www.fifa.com/the-best-fifa-football-awards/news/y=2017/m=9/news=fifa-fifpro-world11-2017-shortlist-revealed-2908322.html this is about 20th September

Not one Man City player made the list, This further proves what I have been saying that Pep has made the best out of his Team, we all believe he has the best squad now because he is blowing teams away with ease, is it not on this same thread guys were arguing who the better player is between Hazard and KDB, Now there is no one like him in the league, wetin make the story change now?

As a Team, they are the best, because of their position on the log and the manner in which they got there, but do they have the best players? I don't think so because some of the players we call best now were castigated last season and most of us here would have passed on the chance to sign them

why didn't we scream best squad last season when they were fumbling? It's still the same Stones and otamendi, It's a forgetten Delph, a benched Walker, it's still the same Sterling, So what changed?

Leicester won the league two seasons ago, did they have the best squad?

larride:


Best manager isn't given until the end of the season, best manager isn't given at the middle of the season, stop trying to make simple things difficult. before Mou was sacked he was still the best manager in the league, the gong is still with him before Raineri won it the following season. Chelsea are the current champions, they will bear that title till the end of the season or when we have a title winner, for now we don't have none of that. Chelsea will remain the current champion of England till May 2018 or earlier if anyone wins the league before then and so will Conte till someone else win the best manager in the league. Awards are not shared in December. stop trying to argue like some of those barka bot biko.

Okay, so we should wait for the season to end before we know who the best manager in the league is currently, as we speak.. Hehehehehehe,

Runner A wins the 200m race last Olympics, Runner B also competed, This Olympics, Runner B takes the lead with Runner A lagging behind with no hope of catching up in the race, According to you, we should wait till the race is over before we say that Runner B is ahead and the fastest runner between the two in this particular race all because Runner A won the last race when it is obvious Runner B is ahead and faster than Runner A

Ranieri Was The best manager last season too before his sacking, it only became obvious Conte Was The best when the season ended not during the course of the season

I hear you sir

dopeJemi:


in this link http://www.fifa.com/the-best-fifa-football-awards/news/y=2017/m=9/news=fifa-fifpro-world11-2017-shortlist-revealed-2908322.html this is about 20th September

Not one Man City player made the list, This further proves what I have been saying that Pep has made the best out of his Team, we all believe he has the best squad now because he is blowing teams away with ease, is it not on this same thread guys were arguing who the better player is between Hazard and KDB, Now there is no one like him in the league, wetin make the story change now?

As a Team, they are the best, because of their position on the log and the manner in which they got there, but do they have the best players? I don't think so because some of the players we call best now were castigated last season and most of us here would have passed on the chance to sign them

why didn't we scream best squad last season when they were fumbling? It's still the same Stones and otamendi, It's a forgetten Delph, a benched Walker, it's still the same Sterling, So what changed?

You are singling out individual players whilst I am talking about the squad as a whole. Given a choice, most managers would pick city's. It's not as wide as some on this forum are making it out to be(that's just Bias against Pep speaking) but it's still marginally better. Last season Pep had the top2-3 squad in the league and with addition of a few players, the best currently. I have no doubt He would have won the league had His defence been up to par last season.


Actually some thought He had the best squad last season hence the "Fraudiola" chants went up a notch. I have no doubts Pep's input into this squad has taken this team to the next level. The Man is a flipping coaching GENUIS for crying out loud. I was also one of His staunch supporters when the Fraudiola/Baldiola chants were at it's loudest but abeg let's not sell this squad of players short.

chic2pimp:


You are singling out individual players whilst I am talking about the squad as a whole. Given a choice, most managers would pick city's. It's not as wide as some on this forum are making it out to be(that's just Bias against Pep speaking) but it's still marginally better. Last season Pep had the top2-3 squad in the league and with addition of a few players, the best currently. I have doubt He would have won the league had His defence been up to par last season.


Actually some thought He had the best squad last season hence the "Fraudiola" chants went up a notch. I have no doubts Pep's input into the squad. I was one of His staunch supporters when the Fraudiola/Baldiola chants were at it's loudest but abeg let's not sell this squad of His short.

I still believe Pep made the best out of the squad, did he buy the best players out there? definitely not, I bet you, if this City team were 3rd or 4th on the log, very few will come here to say he has the best squad, that is why I said they are the best when they play as a Team.. Otamendi, stones and Co will remain shi.t in their eyes, cause I don't seem to understand how the players that were castigated last season have suddenly made up the squad that we now refer to as the "best".. Pep's magic


I'll agree to disagree on this one

dopeJemi:


I still believe Pep made the best out of the squad, did he buy the best players out there? definitely not, I bet you, if this City team were 3 or 4th on the log, very few will come here to say he has the best squad, Otamendi, stones and Co will remain shi.t in their eyes, cause I don't seem to understand how the players that were castigated last season have suddenly made up the squad that we now refer to as the "best".. Pep's magic


I'll agree to disagree on this one

Is Pep getting the best of this squad? YES. If He wasn't they won't be this far ahead. They'll probably be about Level with United at the top of the table.

Pep's defence whilst a vast improvement on last season's is still not that great. However that's not His strength. His strength has always been His attacking Flair. Looking at the Midfield +attack He has at it's disposal compared to that of His rivals, I think it's fair to say Pep has the edge in terms of personnel. Add this to Great Coaching and He becomes an unsolvable problem for the rest of the league.

Give Mou that Mid+ Attack and He'll have them defending in no time. They'll still win games and might probably be at the top of the league but they won't be as good as this.

Give Pooch this squad and He'll play scintillating footy almost as good as Pep but He'll end the season trophyless.

Only Pep can play footy as good as this and still have something tangible to show for it come the end of the season.

And oh yes I agree 100%. He is indeed MAGIC!

Longest winning streak in the top 5 leagues

Germany Bayern Munich 19 games Pep Guardiola

Italy Inter Milan 17 games Roberto Mancini

England Manchester City 16 games Pep Guardiola

France Monaco 16 games Leo Jardim

Spain Real Madrid Zidane and 2011 Barcelona Pep Guardiola

@Nihilist: If Iheanacho fires blanks for the Super Eagles, we still got an awesome game-changer in Ahmed Musa.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvTSvDCSDIY

dopeJemi:


I still believe Pep made the best out of the squad, did he buy the best players out there? definitely not, I bet you, if this City team were 3rd or 4th on the log, very few will come here to say he has the best squad, that is why I said they are the best when they play as a Team.. Otamendi, stones and Co will remain shi.t in their eyes, cause I don't seem to understand how the players that were castigated last season have suddenly made up the squad that we now refer to as the "best".. Pep's magic

I'll agree to disagree on this one

Guy, I feel you on this one jare! Same players that folks here were making jest of last season even before they had kicked a ball, have now turned "world best".

Like you've rightly said, Pep deserves every bit of hype and credit he is getting. From the way he sets up his team, changes formation and player positioning in the game, you can clearly see that he is a "thinking" manager. Yes, he making the best of the players available to him because these guys individually ARE NOT the best players in their positions. Give Pep the same current United, Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool or Spurs team and he will significantly IMPROVE them!

When Bonnuci was separated from the community defending at Juventus this is what happens

AC Milan Fans Create Hilarious Facebook Event to Rinse Flop Signing Leonardo Bonucci

https://www.si.com/soccer/2017/10/20/ac-milan-fans-create-hilarious-facebook-event-rinse-flop-signing-leonardo-bonucci-after-aek-draw

Bergomi on Bonnuci - “When he was at Juventus he had some strong teammates playing close to him, he still doesn’t have the same personality of Barzagli and Chiellini

http://www.calciomercato.com/en/news/bergomi-explains-bonucci-flop-names-key-milan-derby-star-84376

Sabbatini making fun of the flop named Bonnuci
http://www.calciomercato.com/en/news/he-will-weaken-bonucci-and-ac-milan-sabatini-predicted-bonucci-f-98532

RuffRuggedRaw:


Guy, I feel you on this one jare! Same players that folks here were making jest of last season even before they had kicked a ball, have now turned "world best".

Like you've rightly said, Pep deserves every bit of hype and credit he is getting. From the way he sets up his team, changes formation and player positioning in the game, you can clearly see that he is a "thinking" manager. Yes, he making the best of the players available to him because these guys individually ARE NOT the best players in their positions. Give Pep the same current United, Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool or Spurs team and he will significantly IMPROVE them!

Not folks please. ......just one person and that is Raumdeuter!

What's happened to Kelechi?

The same Sane that terrorized Madrid in the UCL as a teenager is the one some folks want us to believe is only playing well because of Pep...
Sterling on the other hand was one of the best players in Liverpool and after Suarez left, he was their go to man but some folks want us to believe he is only playing well cos of Pep...
Same Otamendi Man United tried to sign but was beaten to his signature is now an average defender cos people want to praise Pep.
Walker isn't as good as Valencia because it's an argument, I must not lose. When to be honest they are both brainless, often depending on pace and power rather than footballing IQ, even at that, Walker, scores more and assist more.
How on earth is current Ibra better than Aguero if not that it's an argument and as far as nairaland is concerned, it's an abomination to admit superior opinion in an argument. At this point in time, I'd love to see a coach who will even take Ibra over Jesus, very unlikely but folks look at United's bench and want to convince us that Ibra there is akin to the one that ruled series A when in all honesty he is past it.


To see how ridiculous this whole thing is, they want us to believe Mendy and Kompany are out injured and shouldn't be considered when comparing both teams or doing a combined 11 but they are talking about Bailly who is injured, Shaw and Ibra who have barely played this season...Kompany that walks straight to the starting 11 anytime he feels slightly comfortable to play is the one they want us to believe isn't good enough when in all honesty he is better than anything Manchester United have to offer. Or is Stones who is not better than Smalling? Last season, people castigated Stones because of his price tag (Same excuse most Man Utd fans make for Pogba) and a bid to get to Pep for his preference for ball playing CBs.

patrickmuf:
The same Sane that terrorized Madrid in the UCL as a teenager is the one some folks want us to believe is only playing well because of Pep...
Sterling on the other hand was one of the best players in Liverpool and after Suarez left, he was their go to man but some folks want us to believe he is only playing well cos of Pep...
Same Otamendi Man United tried to sign but was beaten to his signature is now an average defender cos people want to praise Pep.
Walker isn't as good as Valencia because it's an argument, I must not lose. When to be honest they are both brainless, often depending on pace and power rather than footballing IQ, even at that, Walker, scores more and assist more.
How on earth is current Ibra better than Aguero if not that it's an argument and as far as nairaland is concerned, it's an abomination to admit superior opinion in an argument. At this point in time, I'd love to see a coach who will even take Ibra over Jesus, very unlikely but folks look at United's bench and want to convince us that Ibra there is akin to the one that ruled series A when in all honesty he is past it.


To see how ridiculous this whole thing is, they want us to believe Mendy and Kompany are out injured and shouldn't be considered when comparing both teams or doing a combined 11 but they are talking about Bailly who is injured, Shaw and Ibra who have barely played this season...Kompany that walks straight to the starting 11 anytime he feels slightly comfortable to play is the one they want us to believe isn't good enough when in all honesty he is better than anything Manchester United have to offer. Or is Stones who is not better than Smalling? Last season, people castigated Stones because of his price tag (Same excuse most Man Utd fans make for Pogba) and a bid to get to Pep for his preference for ball playing CBs.

The power of Raumdeuter da area scatter! Even Ur boy jemi is stuck to his balls

Again you see them saying we were making jest of City players last season and praising them now when in truth, it's Pep that was mostly on the receiving end, I make bold to say that the difference between last season and the present one is that Pep has stopped trying to be too smart, he has kept things simple and this has made the team stronger.
If you watched City last season, you'd have seen that the same players were tearing apart every team they came up against until it got to Pep's head and he started doing things unheard of, Zabaleta and Clichy, supposed fullbacks were tucking into the midfield (Crazy) leaving only Stones and Otamendi, now tell me which defender won't get exposed in this set up?
The year, Walker is always at right back, Delph/Mendy at left back, he just ditched those crazy ideas of his that left them exposed not like he did anything out of the world or unseen...

diggz:


Not folks please. ......just one person and that is Raumdeuter!

Tell him in capital letters bro. I remember raumdeuter saying pep wouldn't turn donkeys like sterling to anything good.

Now pep should be hailed for a sterling who was very good at Liverpool.

Dayo is a cancer here.

Lol. Some things never change.


Anyways, who is playing upfront today?

PDPGuy:
@Nihilist: If Iheanacho fires blanks for the Super Eagles, we still got an awesome game-changer in Ahmed Musa.

At least kelechi is still making the leicester bemch. I dont know if musa is still in the city let alone the club.
Maybe hes working as a waiter on the golden mile.

FBS:
Lol. Some things never change.

Anyways, who is playing upfront today?

Batshuayi

Nihilist:


At least kelechi is still making the leicester bemch. I dont know if musa is still in the city let alone the club.
Maybe hes working as a waiter on the golden mile.

dopeJemi:


Okay, so we should wait for the season to end before we know who the best manager in the league is currently, as we speak.. Hehehehehehe,

Runner A wins the 200m race last Olympics, Runner B also competed, This Olympics, Runner B takes the lead with Runner A lagging behind with no hope of catching up in the race, According to you, we should wait till the race is over before we say that Runner B is ahead and the fastest runner between the two in this particular race all because Runner A won the last race when it is obvious Runner B is ahead and faster than Runner A

Ranieri Was The best manager last season too before his sacking, it only became obvious Conte Was The best when the season ended not during the course of the season

I hear you sir

Taking the lead is different from actually winning, that's the major difference, anyone can take the lead at any time in a race, who wins is what matters. As City been crowned champions yet? no? has the best manager in the league been given yet? No. Who is the current champion? Chelsea. Who is the current best manager in the league, Conte.

I don't know when you turn like this oooo, but there's no harm in accepting when you are wrong.

patrickmuf:
Again you see them saying we were making jest of City players last season and praising them now when in truth, it's Pep that was mostly on the receiving end, I make bold to say that the difference between last season and the present one is that Pep has stopped trying to be too smart, he has kept things simple and this has made the team stronger.
If you watched City last season, you'd have seen that the same players were tearing apart every team they came up against until it got to Pep's head and he started doing things unheard of, Zabaleta and Clichy, supposed fullbacks were tucking into the midfield (Crazy) leaving only Stones and Otamendi, now tell me which defender won't get exposed in this set up?
The year, Walker is always at right back, Delph/Mendy at left back, he just ditched those crazy ideas of his that left them exposed not like he did anything out of the world or unseen...

A+

how moses did not make final cut for african best is still one of the biggest mystery to me in 2017.

seriously, who are the mor0ns running that caf organization?

Ibime:
Someone wants us to believe Pep inherited rubbish squad from Rijkaard with Spain's Euro-winning midfield of Xavi, Iniesta with Lionel Messi, Samuel Eto, Yaya Toure, Thierry Henry, Puyol, Abidal on deck. I just named 8 players that could arguably walk into a World 11.

Only thunder will fire Rijkaard for using this team to concede title to Capello with Guti, Jose Antonio Reyes, Julio Baptista, Emerson, Robinho and co.

Same with Man City, Pellegrini has always been a soft-spoken underachiever, a coach who grossly underachieved, and was actually a 3 year placeholder for Pep and had no power. Pellegrini severely underachieved just like Rijkaard. I am not saying this now, I have been saying it for years.

Pep has never inherited an underdog team. Anytime he is underdog, they whip him 5-0.

A++

atheist5:
lol,I still remember when we lost to Liverpool and arsenal and they were serious bombs in Chelsea camp,if we didn't miraculously turn the result the following weeks ehh,infact in Chelsea and real Madrid your job is not safe when titles don't come,conte will still be a goner this season though,roman nor dey waste time

Why will he be a goner? You people say he has the worst squad so he is doing wonders keeping the team in the top 4 abi?