Joebie:
Lol..
How do we know that it is true that U have not guessed wrong? U have to be here in this thread long enough.

I don’t care where the coaches are from, as long as they are not angels voting.

forgiveness:


I thought you said Obafemi Martins never did anything?

I only showed you that FIFA stuff to prove you wrong.


However, Martin's performance for 2004/2005 was better than Drogba and Essien combined yet he didn't make the top three. Why?

Drogba only scored 10 goals in the EPL that season and scored a total of 16 goals with just 6 assists yet he came second. Why?

Don't tell me he played for a bigger club than Martins because Inter Milan was a better club than Chelsea then, and don't tell me he won more trophies than Martins because Martins won both the Coppa Italia and Supercoppa Italiana.

Don't tell me Drogba won the league while Martins didn't win because Samuel Eto was crowned with APOTY award in 2003 and 2004 despite the fact that he just won Coppa del rey in 2002/2003 season and nothing with terrible middle table same Mallorca in 2003/2004 though he scored 22 goals..


What did Essien do than that season?

Jarus:


You are very funny.

Drogba that was the 10th best player in the world in 2005 was the player you want to compare with Martins?

Essien, the best player in French League and 22nd in the World for 2005?

You talked about FIFA stuff, but those 3 players got bigger recognition by FIFA, and you want the order to change in Africa?

Jarus:


You are very funny.

Drogba that was the 10th best player in the world in 2005 was the player you want to compare with Martins?

Essien, the best player in French League and 22nd in the World for 2005?

You talked about FIFA stuff, but those 3 players got bigger recognition by FIFA, and you want the order to change in Africa?

forgiveness:


Oga! I hope u do agree u were wrong before I continue to counter this ownow!?

However, we are talking about 2004/2005 season and not 2003/2004 season. Thank you.

Did Cameroun win the 2004 Nations cup?
I don't know oooo.



Abi na 2002 carry over come 2004.

Icon79:
Bruh, it's my job
Someone needs to protect her from all the ruff playas we've got here


O pari

Joebie:
I’m sure u saw my response to him before ur epistle lol

goldfish80:


What carryover? Must you be petty? obviously l wanted to give you benefit of doubt that you couldnt have compared any African player with 04/05 Eto. Especially not when Samuel was crowned 3rd best player in the world, the second African ever to mske the podium.

BascoVanVeli:


No doubt he was the best shooter out of the PG's u mentioned but that is not all being a "floor general" is about. Your primary duty is not to score but to get the team going. His MVP's were as a result of the Suns rampaging but they never even made an NBA finals. I am not trying to take away from Nash but u are making him sound like MJ or something.

forgiveness:



The French connection worked for Drogba and Essien in that FIFA stuff.

forgiveness:


OK. What did Samuel Eto do in 2003/2004 season that made CAF gave him the award?

forgiveness:


FIFA is FIFA, CAF is CAF.

Ok, let me agree you thought Eto won AFCON in 2004 hence your wrong submissions.

Let me also agree Eto was the best in 2004/2005 season but can you pls explain what he did to win the award for the 2002/2003 and 2003/2004 season?

Oh! I remember he played for middle table Mallorca then.

Jarus:


His winning 2004 APOTY award also included performance for the 2004 part of 2004/2005

- 22 goals in 43 matches for Maĺlorca in 2003/2004
( including 17 league goals)
- And he was signed by Barca in the middle of 2004 and started banging many goals in La Liga and UCL before the end of 2004.

Jarus:


LOL.

Better concede. You keep introducing more ridiculous arguments.

French connection in FIFA. I thought you guys talk of French connection only in CAF.

Ronaldinho, Kaka, CR7 and Messi must have had "French connection" too.

goldfish80:


I discussed extensively how the SE defeated Cameroun ,with Bonfere giving Christian Chukwu tips in 2004 before the world cup qualifiers in Uyo.
Its laughable in your skewed imagination, I said Eto'o won the Afcon in 2004.

What Eto'o did to win in 2002/03? 2003/04?

Afcon title
Afcon top scorer
confederations cup finalist
Copa de rey (Mallorca)
Mallorca all time leading scorer
Pichichi [ 2nd to Villa while at Mallorca, lost this award on the final day]

List Obafemi Martins record for Nigeria between 2003-06. I'm asking you a second time.

goldfish80:


Make no mistake about this, Nash was a proper floor general. The only downside in his game was the defense. Obviously his 6'2 frame is a disadvantage.
Also, as a PG your shooting ability counts a lot. Stephen curry is at a different level mainly because of his shooting.

By the way, I'm not hyping up Nash like that. I just had to highlight his abilities to show Icon79, Nash wasn't some pub player who fraudulently won the Mvp.

goldfish80:


I discussed extensively how the SE defeated Cameroun ,with Bonfere giving Christian Chukwu tips in 2004 before the world cup qualifiers in Uyo.
Its laughable in your skewed imagination, I said Eto'o won the Afcon in 2004.

What Eto'o did to win in 2002/03? 2003/04?

Afcon title
Afcon top scorer
confederations cup finalist
Copa de rey (Mallorca)
Mallorca all time leading scorer
Pichichi [ 2nd to Villa while at Mallorca, lost this award on the final day]

List Obafemi Martins record for Nigeria between 2003-06. I'm asking you a second time.

darkelf:


Yeah, but the majority still go for MJ. I meant this dude that prevented many greats from ever getting a championship ring; Patrick Ewing, Charles Barkley, Charles Malone, John stockton, etc

Besides, MJ was the only guard to win regular season MVP, play off MVP, finals MVP and Defensive player of the year in the same season.nwow, talk about greatness. And remember, he was only 6'6

Daejoyoung:

Afcon title, Afcon top scorer, confederations cup, all of these were before the 2002/2003 season.
What did he do specifically in 2003 to win the award? Mallorca was not a top team then. Some have downplayed Odemwinge in 2011 for making his exploits in WestHam.

forgiveness:



Haha! Nobi you?

Can you pls list those achievements according to their seasons? Thanks

Daejoyoung:

Afcon title, Afcon top scorer, confederations cup, all of these were before the 2002/2003 season.
What did he do specifically in 2003 to win the award? Mallorca was not a top team then. Some have downplayed Odemwinge in 2011 for making his exploits in WestHam.

goldfish80:

which country won the Afcon in 2002? Whih country reprssented Africa at the 2004 confederations cup and played up to the finals?

Was Osaze one the top scorers in the Epl with (a respectable )15 goals? Amir Zaki scored same number with Wigan and won the Afcon with Egypt in 2008, yet he didn't win.
Are Egyptians hated also across Africa?

forgiveness:


Oga! Those are South Americans. They are marketable.


CAF award was introduced by a French magazine. Finito. Why do you think they gave it to Jean Managa Onguene ahead of Segun Odegbami in 1980 despite the fact that he helped Nigeria to win their first AFCON in 1980?
Only French won it before the main CAF award was introduced and unfortunately the other French President favoured his colonial colleagues.

French has influence in FIFA to promote players from their league.

French influence in CAF no get part two. Wetin you think say make Ikpeba win?

However, Nigerian arrogant nature towards other African countries whenever they win has denied them the favour from them.


Yaya winning Apoty because he scored two goals does not hold water for me because Taye Taiwo also scored a goal in the finals that won Marseille their Coupe de la Ligue and he was the man of the match. Don't forget he scored a total of 5 goals from his difficult defensive duty that same 2010/2011 season Yaya toure won the award.

What did Seyedou. Keita do that same season?

Did he also score 2 goals in any finals?

CAF can deceive the mumus not me.

goldfish80:


List Martins achievement for Nigeria between 2003-06 in no particular order.

Jarus:



How can you hold CAF responsible for awards awarded not by it but by an independent magazine?

You have been grabbing straws.

CAF started awarding early 90s. And from Nigerians dominated 1993 - 1999.

You mentioned French influence in FIFA and I showed you how no French connection stopped Kaka, Ronnie, Messi, CR7 from winning FIFA WPOTY, you brought another straw that they are South Americans (after killing your French connection argument). Lol

Guy, stop the petty victimization cry, if you performed very well, no connection anywhere will stop you from winning any award.

A Weah from an English speaking small African country as Liberia even won WPOTYand APOTY.

Do very well and see whether anyone will deny you any award.

I just dont like cry-babyism.

safarigirl:
so, CAF has no specific criteria then

The award is bogus and shoddy

forgiveness:


I thought CAF award depends on a season performance. Why should I list all his achievements?

Tell me what Eto did in 2003/2004. Thanks

forgiveness:



Well, everybody is entitled to his microscopic view points. Chikena.


It seems you don't know much about the history and politics of CAF. Even FIFA knows they are corrupt.


Didn't you hear how one Former FIFA President influenced a player to win FIFA award.

Now, let us forget all these and move on to my questions in my last comment

Can you pls answer the last four paragraphs? Thanks

goldfish80:

Season achievement for both club and country. Now list Obafemi Martins achievement s for Nigeria in the said period.
Why is this simple task proving too difficult?
I have listed that of Eto'o

Jarus:


You probably dont follow CAF/FIFA as much as I do.

Point to the 4 paras you were referring to.

forgiveness:


Oga! Those are South Americans. They are marketable.


CAF award was introduced by a French magazine. Finito. Why do you think they gave it to Jean Managa Onguene ahead of Segun Odegbami in 1980 despite the fact that he helped Nigeria to win their first AFCON in 1980?
Only French won it before the main CAF award was introduced and unfortunately the other French President favoured his colonial colleagues.

French has influence in FIFA to promote players from their league.

French influence in CAF no get part two. Wetin you think say make Ikpeba win?

However, Nigerian arrogant nature towards other African countries whenever they win has denied them the favour from them.


Yaya winning Apoty because he scored two goals does not hold water for me because Taye Taiwo also scored a goal in the finals that won Marseille their Coupe de la Ligue and he was the man of the match. Don't forget he scored a total of 5 goals from his difficult defensive duty that same 2010/2011 season Yaya toure won the award.

What did Seyedou. Keita do that same season?

Did he also score 2 goals in any finals?

CAF can deceive the mumus not me.

goldfish80:

which country won the Afcon in 2002? Whih country reprssented Africa at the 2004 confederations cup and played up to the finals?

Was Osaze one the top scorers in the Epl with (a respectable )15 goals? Amir Zaki scored same number with Wigan and won the Afcon with Egypt in 2008, yet he didn't win.
Are Egyptians hated also across Africa?