Kog45:
Torunigha Jordan had 12 appearance last season mostly from bench and this season is even worst and guys are clamouring for his invitation then why not Stanley Amuzie if we need natural left back

Dominic Irofa jnr always on the bench at Ipswich in the same championship Aina is playing week in week out and a lot expect him to walk straight into the team.

Kevin Akpoguma came into the team due to injury to a player,not that spectacular but normal defender that i will never rate above Awaziem or Omeruo but if he pledges his allegiance meaning straight to WC.

Kevin Uduokhai honestly i rate this guy cos he is a decent defender but i doubt his readiness better for Rohr to concentrate on what is on ground and bring the best out of them before WC.

Wow. Your points seem to have hit home

Hope Rohr tries to consider things this way

Granted that some countries (like Poland and Portugal) have manipulated the ranking, but FIFA ranking is still a good measure to evaluate a team. After all, if you can't accept Argentina's raking then you shouldn't accept Brazil or Germany's rakings either.


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MetalJigsaw:
What are you saying? If they had beaten us in that "just friendly" I'm sure you'll bash our dear team so bitter and never give them any credit or chance going to the WC.

* So you're one of those who take that FIFa rankings seriously. Tell me your reason for this I can mention for you a large number of teams that aren't as the current Super Eagles squad being place way ahead of us in the useless and very controversial FIFA ranking .

* You said Argentina are ranked 4th. Why couldn't they beat us without Messi to prove their superiority?

darkelf:
Some countries that may be Under-rated at the World Cup:

1 Nigeria (in fact a African countries). A the African countries that qualified truly deserved their place. Who knows, we might just see 2 African countries in the Semis;

2 Iceland; They topped a group which had Croatia and Ukraine. We a remember how they defeated England in the last Euros (although it can be argued that the English National Team has always been over-hyped by the media)

3 Japan: I dey fear them. Most of their players that ply their trade in Europe are currently on form. It will be foolhardy to under-rate them

4 Peru: Qualified over the USA. Anytime I remember Costa-rica in 2014, I shudder at the thought of what surprises they might spring up

Please feel free to correct and/or add yours

Thanks

Sweden?

Kog45:
I pray Sokari would not be another Nwakili.

My Oga is insider saying Felix Uduokhai, Kevin Akpoguma, Jordon Torunarigha are sure bet to WC?If that's the case then am seeing repeated performance of 2014 meaning some players who sacrificed for the team during qualifier likely to be dropped for FB.

Initially what we thought here was a keeper, a midfielder and an attacker to beef up the team but now defenders.But with your info now likely for us to have new set of players.

Sir with your comment it seem Rohr has settled for 3-5-2 formation and is looking for players to prosecute it which paved way for the likes of Uduokhai, Akpoguma, Toru.

I hope it works out cos am sensing danger cos we had a system that made us qualified for WC but it seems 45 minutes performance against Argentina is changing things now and Rohr should remember we have Argentina to contend with who are a great performance at WC no matter what,Croatia is there which w not be an easy match cos it would determine our stand in the group,also Iceland very unpredictable match.

I'm sorry mister, it seems u have problems with the moniker Chriskels. Why do u always come hard on me? Why do you so much love misconstruing my posts just to counter? Do u struggle with comprehension abi wetin? Dude it seems you are too emotional.

I said March friendly and you are busy misquoting me. Did you read anything suggesting that the lineup I dropped is against Croatia? Did I not write Poland (which is even a guess) there?

Mind you, no serious contender at the world cup goes with just a pattern (formation). Formations are subject to oppositions. Whether Rohr is gonna make 352 his primary formation is another story.

Mujtahida:

Hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha oga Kog45. Life is funny oo. I remember well when some monikers here were lambasting Rohr for being 'tactically timid'. Now he wants to be bold and try something new and Kog45 has doubts (justifiably so Sir). My point is that one cannot satisfy people.

I appreciate ChrisKels for bringing us this juicy snippet of information but Kog45 remember the interview Rohr granted to 365 magazine which was posted here for our reading. Remember he said that the nature of the opposition would determine the tactics we use and that he needs about four more players. While I understand your reservations I want to ask would you rather we stick to our tested tactical formations for all the teams we would play against than adopt tactics based on the opposition we meet?

I too I'm concerned about having our backline filled by inexperienced defenders although I see them as good backups. Let us not forget the SA loss and the lesson it taught us. Secondly I hope that if we secure this guys their commitment to the Gwg will stretch beyond the WC. We want Super Eagles players not WC players.

Mujtahida thanks but you know what there is need for us to be cautious in our approach,definitely a team must have different tactics but my major concern with Chriskel insider comment was when he said it seems 3-5-2 w be the main tactics and was the reason for German trio,truly Rohr said he need four more players,with the trio who are defenders then remain one.

If Rohr is saying Balogun Leon Troost Ekong,Chidozie Awaziem,Omeruo,Idowu,Abdullahi, Aina,Ebuhei and Echiejele are not enough for any formation then i fear cos i don't see the inclusion of German trio at a go as something good for the team.

I have come to realize a lot don't want any criticism towards Rohr,everything from his side is damn good, people should realised this is not our first time of going to WC,so there is need for serious evaluation of the team without sentiments cos anything short of quarter final is a failure.

ChrisKels:


I'm sorry mister, it seems u have problems with the moniker Chriskels. Why do u always come hard on me? Why do you so much love misconstruing my posts just to counter? Do u struggle with comprehension abi wetin? Dude it seems you are too emotional.

I said March friendly and you are busy misquoting me. Did you read anything suggesting that the lineup I dropped is against Croatia? Did I not write Poland (which is even a guess) there?

Mind you, no serious contender at the world cup goes with just a pattern (formation). Formations are subject to oppositions. Whether Rohr is gonna make 352 his primary formation is another story.

Oh am indeed sorry if you think am being hard on you. Oh have something against your moniker,haba truly a faceless forum but 'i don pass' that level.Sorry once again.

Icon79:
And it looks like you don't know how to quote either. Bia, MetalJigsaw, did someone steal your handle?
But to answer your question. No, it means that the current Argie team can beat us when they need to.


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Football is not like that, Italy needed to beat Sweden but could not. France (world champions at the time) in 2002 could not beat debutants Senegal when they needed to.. Argentina (world champions too) in 1990 could not beat Cameroon when they needed to..

Magink:
Fikayo Tomori will play for Nigeria. Check out Aina's IG it's so so obvious but we don't need him now guess Qatar 2022.

I prefer that guy to ilorfa anyday anytime...
moreover he is a Chelsea player...opportune to understudy from some of the best defender's in the epl

Icon79:
Granted that some countries (like Poland and Portugal) have manipulated the ranking, but FIFA ranking is still a good measure to evaluate a team. After all, if you can't accept Argentina's raking then you shouldn't accept Brazil or Germany's rakings either.


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A large number of teams do not deserve their current FIFA ranking. Peru being in top 30 of the FIFA ranking. Iran also way up the FIFA chart ahead of Nigeria, Australia and several others. Argentina- a one man team being placed 4 Ahead ahead of Spain... Oh my! I can go on and on.

OMANBALA1:
I have finally come to the conclusion that Iheanacho's horrible first touches, which again, sadly, let to the goal scored by Man City is something that will take sometime for him to perfect.
Just like when I was teaching my wife how to drive and she was having trouble keeping the vehicle in a straight line but my frustration got the better of me. Today, she is an excellent driver. Its on this premise that I believe that this Iheanacho's shortcomings will not last forever...He will get better with hard work and *time*.

Patience is main deal.

Now the question is that: does the club, manager and the fans have enough of that patience to make it happen?

Nacho is getting back his touch but very slowly. If my memory serves me right, he only had two poor touches against Argentina(one led to Idowu's goal and the other one which I can't recollect now) which to me is a sign of improvement considering how poor they've been in recent time.

I feel for the young lad. He is presently undergoing a tough time. hope he pulls through.

The way some people are underestimating Argentina is making me laugh. Na today una start dey watch ball?? This our friendly win is clouding a lot of people's judgement. There's a 90 percent chance that they beat us next year...Infact if the players go with the mindset on here, they'd get thrashed seriously.
Never write Argentina off.

Of course, anything can happen in football and any country can beat any country on any given day. But I was trying to caution against is a situation where we try to take the Argies for granted simply because we've beaten them in a friendly game. That would be a big big mistaken. Argentina is still the top dog in our group and we should treat them as such. Remember the last time we defeated them (was it 4-2 or 5-2) in a friendly game in Abuja and two days later they trashed us in India or where?

Anyway, my point is, our main target would be to get results against the team I would call direct oppositions (Iceland and Croatia). And if we end up getting something out of the Argentine game then that would be a bonus.


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tbaba1234:


Football is not like that, Italy needed to beat Sweden but could not. France (world champions at the time) in 2002 could not beat debutants Senegal when they needed to.. Argentina (world champions too) in 1990 could not beat Cameroon when they needed to..

tbaba1234:


Football is not like that, Italy needed to beat Sweden but could not. France (world champions at the time) in 2002 could not beat debutants Senegal when they needed to.. Argentina (world champions too) in 1990 could not beat Cameroon when they needed to..

My brother don't that guy. I doubt if he's truly Nigerian.

So Argentina didn't need to win the match but the fielded their A team that us only without Messi. They didn't need to beat us but they beat Russia in a previous game before meeting us.

What if they had beaten us what would he have been saying about the team.

Kog45:
Mujtahida thanks but you know what there is need for us to be cautious in our approach,definitely a team must have different tactics but my major concern with Chriskel insider comment was when he said it seems 3-5-2 w be the main tactics and was the reason for German trio,truly Rohr said he need four more players,with the trio who are defenders then remain one.

If Rohr is saying Balogun Leon Troost Ekong,Chidozie Awaziem,Omeruo,Idowu,Abdullahi, Aina,Ebuhei and Echiejele are not enough for any formation then i fear cos i don't see the inclusion of German trio at a go as something good for the team.

I have come to realize a lot don't want any criticism towards Rohr,everything from his side is damn good, people should realised this is not our first time of going to WC,so there is need for serious evaluation of the team without sentiments cos anything short of quarter final is a failure.

Chriskels never said 352 will be the main formation, rather he said the formation was seriously being considered by Rohr. Whether it will be the main or auxiliary formation, I don't know and I never specified it but I can beat my chest and say 352 will be one of Rohr's formations in Russia.

I guess av made myself clear?

edi287:
The way some people are underestimating Argentina is making me laugh. Na today una start dey watch ball?? This our friendly win is clouding a lot of people's judgement. There's a 90 percent chance that they beat us next year...Infact if the players go with the mindset on here, they'd get thrashed seriously.
Never write Argentina off.

It's simple Argentina is a power house in football anytime any day and no team would under rate them,whether we like it or not they are favorite to top our group but anything can happen in football.

My major concern is Croatia match,very important for us cos it w definitely determine our fate at WC.

US 94 we beat Bulgaria in our first match,France 98 we defeated Spain in our first match we moved to the next round,at 2014 WC we drew Iran still make it to next round meaning our first match is the key not even Argentina match.

ChrisKels:


Chriskels never said 352 will be the main formation, rather he said the formation was seriously being considered by Rohr. Whether it will be the main or auxiliary formation, I don't know and I never specified it but I can beat my chest and say 352 will be one of Rohr's formations in Russia.

I guess av made myself clear?

My man no wahala, pls let's move on

Argentina this Argentina that. Argentinian football is in decline. This is their last chance saloon to win the world cup with this generation of players. This generation won the U20 world cup in 2005 (beat Nigeria in the final), this same generation won the Olympics football tournament in 2008 (beat Nigeria again). Since 2008, Argentina in terms of youth football has nothing to write home about. They have flopped in the U17 and U 20 categories even in some cases barely making it out of the south American qualifiers.
Before our friendly match I predicted we would beat them. The world cup next year will be an eye opener for Argentina. I personally don't see them coming out of that group. Our last match with Argentina will be irrelevant as we would have qualified and they would be out.

AIG07:
Sokari to relieve Mikel? I don't get it. We seem to underestimate Mikel's role in the team.

The closest player to Mikel is JOEL OBI. It's either we look for a tactic(s) or strategy that will fit/suit the team in the absence of Mikel.

oga....it seems you have never taken time to watch sokari play.....
he is quite okay....at least he will offer something more useful more than Agu contributions during his combo appearance for the super eagles...besides no body is closing the door on Joel...let them all first for their shirt....in the team.

darkelf:


Me too but his play has been sloppy sometimes.

But we cannot afford to make mistakes in the defense at the world cup

I will also feel bad for an player who doesn't make the final cut after paying the qualifying games.

Hence the need for them to up their game and pray no serious injury befalls them

yeah...the lad passing skills is good and he overlaps well.....

let's still be hopeful...world cup is next year

Truidstar:
Argentina this Argentina that. Argentinian football is in decline. This is their last chance saloon to win the world cup with this generation of players. This generation won the U20 world cup in 2005 (beat Nigeria in the final), this same generation won the Olympics football tournament in 2008 (beat Nigeria again). Since 2008, Argentina in terms of youth football has nothing to write home about. They have flopped in the U17 and U 20 categories even in some cases barely making it out of the south American qualifiers.
Before our friendly match I predicted we would beat them. The world cup next year will be an eye opener for Argentina. I personally don't see them coming out of that group. Our last match with Argentina will be irrelevant as we would have qualified and they would be out.

My man let settled it before Argentina match,am not saying we cannot beat Argentina but better for us to beat Croatia and Iceland or have four points which i believe would be enough to make it safer.

ChrisKels:


Why if I may ask please? Mind u, even Nura is pushing for recognition and if he starts playing for Roma next month, he would be in contention. Roma fans are already clamoring for him as Perez and Florenzi haven't really been great and Karlsdop has spent more time on the treatment table than on the training pitch. Aina should sit up because that right back position has the most competition in the Eagles presently. No sentiments bro. Rohr no dey pity any man oo.

I understand wit you rohr pity no man....but i will rather take this lad to Russia than elderson....I know some will come here to argue experience ke....

experience that have turned him into the weakest link in the super eagles....

safarigirl:
like we are optimistic about Enyeama?

Let God keep us till March, so that we will know who is who. All these speculations flying up and down are just raising unnecessary hopes.

safarigirl:
like we are optimistic about Enyeama?

Let God keep us till March, so that we will know who is who. All these speculations flying up and down are just raising unnecessary hopes.

Kog45:
I wonder o,this was a real rooted guy playing for shooting star then,if am right(icon4s, goldfish80, enomakos) one of the defected shooting players during training tour in Europe,so what do you expect.

Honestly Ojokojo and Irofa senior falls my hand cos of them am always praising Iwobi and Aina Dads for great encouragement giving to their wards to represent Nigeria.

If am Rohr i will be sentimental and takes Iwobi and Aina to WC to spite them cos Nigeria did a lot for them especially Dominic Irofa.

I am wit you sir....Aina deserve to be in the team for the world cup.....
We just need one of the German born CB...and that's all....
in that case....Akpoguma will be okay...

junnyjake:



Ha, e go hard o.

I can't remember the last time he played for his club. Pladenratt abi wetin be him name de bench am seriously.

he played the last time...ha even came from bench scored in the match preceding their last match.....

he is good though...but i will want him after the world cup...

Truidstar:
Argentina this Argentina that. Argentinian football is in decline. This is their last chance saloon to win the world cup with this generation of players. This generation won the U20 world cup in 2005 (beat Nigeria in the final), this same generation won the Olympics football tournament in 2008 (beat Nigeria again). Since 2008, Argentina in terms of youth football has nothing to write home about. They have flopped in the U17 and U 20 categories even in some cases barely making it out of the south American qualifiers.
Before our friendly match I predicted we would beat them. The world cup next year will be an eye opener for Argentina. I personally don't see them coming out of that group. Our last match with Argentina will be irrelevant as we would have qualified and they would be out.

i have said it before, this Argentine generation will be like the Ivorian Golden generation led by Drogba that couldn't win any medal.

There will be neither a World Cup nor a Cops America for Messi.

Icon79:
I honestly wish that Kelechi had stay at ManCity. First he would be getting more playing time. Secondly, he would be playing with some of the best players on the planet and getting drillings from one of the best coaches in the business.


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Its too late for that, now he has to fight with all his might.

This thread has been filled with innumerable boasts of Nigeria coming out of our WC group and this gives me the laugh I cannot describe
First, the friendly match against Argentina is nothing to measure Argentine's ability, it will be a heavy disaster if we think its same Argentina we met in the friendly we will meet at the WC.
Second, I see this SE team as a work in progress probably at its infant stage which requires patience and long consistent hard work. We need a blue print for developmental process for the SE which must be sincerely adhered to. We should stop all these stumbled-on-successes. We must not allow sudden successes confuse our future focus of birthing a SE team that can be stable and compete with formidable teams.
Third, I see this WC as a learning process for us even if we are eliminated in the group stage, we must keep our focus of building a formidable team worthy of taking on any team. Our football must go beyond this epileptic behavioral show of scanty successes and work on taking our football to a stable stage
I wish the SE the best

Icon79:
Kenneth Omeruo is a great player. He's just one of those who were at the wrong place and the wrong time. There's no reason why he shouldn't be playing for Chelsea after the monster tournament he had at AFCON 2013. But Jose Mourinho sent him away on loan while retaining someone like Gary Cahill. I said it that time that Omeruo is a far better CB than Cahill!

I think that all those loan moves affected his game. It doesn't help your game when you're totally unsettled.


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Funny enough chelsea keep renewing his contract. They could have cut him loose if they thought he was rubbish without the prospect of ROI.

oloriooko:
This thread has been filled with innumerable boasts of Nigeria coming out of our WC group and this gives me the laugh I cannot describe
First, the friendly match against Argentina is nothing to measure Argentine's ability, it will be a heavy disaster if we think its same Argentina we met in the friendly we will meet at the WC.
Second, I see this SE team as a work in progress probably at its infant stage which requires patience and long consistent hard work. We need a blue print for developmental process for the SE which must be sincerely adhered to. We should stop all these stumbled-on-successes. We must not allow sudden successes confuse our future focus of birthing a SE team that can be stable and compete with formidable teams.
Third, I see this WC as a learning process for us even if we are eliminated in the group stage, we must keep our focus of building a formidable team worthy of taking on any team. Our football must go beyond this epileptic behavioral show of scanty successes and work on taking our football to a stable stage
I wish the SE the best

all these are your personal opinion, you see anybody laughing?

The people who think we can top our group can also give you reasons why, but it is still a personal opinion.

So, do not laugh at someone else's opinion

darkelf:
Some countries that may be Under-rated at the World Cup:

1 Nigeria (in fact a African countries). A the African countries that qualified truly deserved their place. Who knows, we might just see 2 African countries in the Semis;

2 Iceland; They topped a group which had Croatia and Ukraine. We a remember how they defeated England in the last Euros (although it can be argued that the English National Team has always been over-hyped by the media)

3 Japan: I dey fear them. Most of their players that ply their trade in Europe are currently on form. It will be foolhardy to under-rate them

4 Peru: Qualified over the USA. Anytime I remember Costa-rica in 2014, I shudder at the thought of what surprises they might spring up

Please feel free to correct and/or add yours

Thanks

Peru is in south America.

I think you mean Panama

Iwobi starts for arsenal.

goldfish80:


Funny enough chelsea keep renewing his contract. They could have cut him loose if they thought he was rubbish without the prospect of ROI.

You've hit the nail on the head sir

One wonders why they haven't completely sold him