Kog45:
Pls forget Echiejele experience,let him come back to form coz we did not missed him in 2014 WC,so he should brace up for challenges ahead,his mate Mikel,Moses are making the team not solely on experience.

That's the reason I said probably is not sure but I can say he's 70 per cent sure he will make the world cup list provided he's fit and injury free... He's the one left footed back we have...

If he's playing regularly in his club... He's world cup bound

Dannyxy:
bros you could say he was playing poor like other players, But saying stuff like he is not justifying his inclusion, is another thing.. Would say that about ozil, or Sanchez, even though ,the were play badly too.. Like iwobi didn't work hard to start, and he just flew from heaven to start playing in the first 11..

Like I said, you wanted to pick on the boy,with negative criticism so quick..

Cut him some slack

Oezil and Sanchez started their last game, Iwobi didn't.
Its sensible for anyone to say he didn't justify his inclusion because he didn't start the last one.
Can you please stop nitpicking and reading meaning to my comments. I don't appreciate being made to explain every sentence I make.

Humility017:

he played the last time...ha even came from bench scored in the match preceding their last match.....

he is good though...but i will want him after the world cup...

After how long on the bench??

Oh, I think I remember that game.

Icon79:
Like I said, the entire Arsenal team was poor in the first half. I was only reacting to you picking on Iwobi for criticism. The team improved in the second half and so did Iwobi. And he ended up providing an assist for the second Arsenal goal (scored by Xhaka, by the way). And Iwobi would have gotten another assist if not that Lacazette pulled the ball high.

O pari

Dont make it come across like I am picking on Iwobi because I hate him.
I actually love him enough to be mad that he had a bad game.

ChrisKels:


Yes he is, that's the position begging for personnel(s) in that midfield. If Sokari comes good (secures a move to France), then, we would have a better sub in him for John Mikel. The few times Ndubuisi Agu subbed Mikel, our midfield crumbled and it lead to calls for Joel Obi, Azubuike Okechukwu et al.

Come March, I would wanna say thank goodness for the emergence of Sokari.


Off topic; From an insider, Rohr is making progress with his pursuit of the German trio. I heard they were sent a template to study the plans of the coach and how they will fit in. Rohr is seriously considering the 3-5-2 formation and OLA Aina might miss the World Cup. It's a straight battle between Aina and Shehu whoever does better in the scrimmages gets the nod to join Ebuehi who has booked his ticket with his impeccable performance against Argentina. Aina is better going forward when we play four at the back but Shehu defends better, it's a pussle (Rohr's headache).

Fingers crossed ; if Rohr succeeds in luring these boys before March, then expect this rearguard against Poland ;


..................................Uzoho

................... Ekong Balogun Felix*

...........Ebuehi Ndidi Mikel Onazi Idowu

............................Moses Iwobi



Bench;

Awaziem or Akpoguma* for Balogun
Toru* for Idowu
Etc etc

I was expecting to get reactions from the @bolded but I was not disappointed there was no reactions.

However, when I mentioned Tosin Adarabioyo, Dominic Solanke, Lookman Ademola, Kehinde etc we saw negative reactions. Maka why?

What is the difference btw these German boys to the Queen's boys?

Did they not all openely rejected us?

Why is Rohr not critized here for trying to beg these boys?

Hahahahahahahahahahaha! Some people's heart can't be hidden here.

As for me, I am open to all foreign breed good enough for the SE and these include both the Queen's boys and German boys. Period

oloriooko:
This thread has been filled with innumerable boasts of Nigeria coming out of our WC group and this gives me the laugh I cannot describe
First, the friendly match against Argentina is nothing to measure Argentine's ability, it will be a heavy disaster if we think its same Argentina we met in the friendly we will meet at the WC.
Second, I see this SE team as a work in progress probably at its infant stage which requires patience and long consistent hard work. We need a blue print for developmental process for the SE which must be sincerely adhered to. We should stop all these stumbled-on-successes. We must not allow sudden successes confuse our future focus of birthing a SE team that can be stable and compete with formidable teams.
Third, I see this WC as a learning process for us even if we are eliminated in the group stage, we must keep our focus of building a formidable team worthy of taking on any team. Our football must go beyond this epileptic behavioral show of scanty successes and work on taking our football to a stable stage
I wish the SE the best

We know it's not thesame Argentina we saw during the friendly we will see at the world Cup. What about Nigeria, you think it's thesame Nigeria the Argentines will see also?

So you think while Argentina would improve their game against Nigeria at the world Cup, we wouldn't do thesame?

OMANBALA1:


Gbagam! Tomorrow now somebody will start wailing and complaining how CAF has ganged up against Nigerian players to not win the APOTY...Knowing fully well we have not produced a single outstanding player since Okocha and Kanu era.

Well, average players do come out of their shells to do some extraordinary things on rare occasions. We saw how Osaze won the player of the month award twice back-back a feat achieved by few at the time. Also winning the best African player that season.

How Ighalo became the highest goalscorer in the EPL 2015.

The coming together of average players with an hunger to succeed would be a team to beat.

All we ask for is that recognition be given to average players who've done some extraordinary things.

goldfish80:


Funny enough chelsea keep renewing his contract. They could have cut him loose if they thought he was rubbish without the prospect of ROI.

Emenalo had alot to do with that

nelszx:


We haven't seen enough of him yet so it'd be difficult to say he'd be axed from the team. My brother let all compete favourably for the position and the best be picked.
"A bird at hand".......You know the rest.

Well, I'm being realistic here. One of these trio would be dropped eventually: Shehu-Aina-Ebuehi.

Whatever would be the criteria for that, it's left for the coach.

goldfish80:

Oezil and Sanchez started their last game, Iwobi didn't.
Its sensible for anyone to say he didn't justify his inclusion because he didn't start the last one.
Can you please stop nitpicking and reading meaning to my comments. I don't appreciate being made to explain every sentence I make.

Ozil & Sanchez didn't start their last game.

denniece1:

Ozil & Sanchez didn't start their last game.

I was talking about their premiership game not corabo cup.

Kog45:
Mujtahida thanks but you know what there is need for us to be cautious in our approach,definitely a team must have different tactics but my major concern with Chriskel insider comment was when he said it seems 3-5-2 w be the main tactics and was the reason for German trio,truly Rohr said he need four more players,with the trio who are defenders then remain one.

If Rohr is saying Balogun Leon Troost Ekong,Chidozie Awaziem,Omeruo,Idowu,Abdullahi, Aina,Ebuhei and Echiejele are not enough for any formation then i fear cos i don't see the inclusion of German trio at a go as something good for the team.

I have come to realize a lot don't want any criticism towards Rohr,everything from his side is damn good, people should realised this is not our first time of going to WC,so there is need for serious evaluation of the team without sentiments cos anything short of quarter final is a failure.

Sir, I don't really see Rorh a simpleton.

Only a simpleton would waste his 4 slots on defensive players.

junnyjake:
I feel bad for this young man. What's happening to him.

He was dropped from the 2014 WC squad, and I wondered what Keshi was thinking. Had a fair outing at the Olympics. I pray his career takes a leap out of the doldrums.

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Super Eagles forward terminated his contract with Konyaspor

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Dec 22, 2017 6:52 AM

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Super Eagles forward, Imoh Ezekiel, has officially terminated his contract with his Turkish outfit, Konyaspor over breach of agreement according to reports.

The 24-year-old Ezekiel who has one cap for Nigeria has failed to rediscover his goalscoring form he has during his spell in Belgium where he scored 35 goals from 140 appearances in Jupiler but Konyaspor is not treating striker very well in the last six months according to his agent, Haji Liammed Gafaar.

“Imoh has terminated his contract and he is a free player now,” Gafaar told Completesportsnigeria.com.

“All what he was promised by Konyaspor when he signed, none of them were fulfilled, and in those conditions it’s difficult for a young player like Imoh to thrive. He is a young player with a lot of potentials.”


Ezekiel signed a three year deal with Konyaspor worth £3.75m last summer from Qatari side, Al Arabi where gone to made 9 appearances and no single goals before he terminated his deal with the club.

I don't think there is anything wrong with his career. The guy threw away money to come down to Turkey but dem no wan pay am the small money dem suppose pay.


I think it is better he terminates that contract and moves to a better league or club.

Besides, it was only last season and 3 seasons ago he didn't play in Belgium because he obviously went for money since Nigeria is not interested in him even if he scorces one million goals in a season.

terzurum5:
Flashback.........


Torunarigha – My father told me to shun Nigeria for Germany

EMMANUEL OKOGBA
21 MAY 2017

Highly rated German-Nigerian defender Jordan Torunarigha has confirmed his father Ojokojo Torunarigha told him playing for Germany is best for his career than representing Nigeria.


•Torunarigha
As reported, the Nigeria Football Federation (NFF) approached the 19 year old Hertha Berlin left back to switch allegiance to Nigeria from Germany where he has played at four different youth levels.



However his father Ojokojo who played 12 games for Nigeria in the 80’s revealed he told Nigeria that his son is not interested. A claim which Jordan has now confirmed.

Jordan is yet to team up with the Germany U-20 team at the World Youth Championship in South Korea due to the club duties, and he reckons progressing through the ranks at Germany is his aim.


“ I was told of the interest from Nigeria by my father but as someone who has played for Nigeria in the past, he advised me to focus on progressing through the ranks with Germany instead of considering a switch to Nigeria “, he said.


https://www.vanguardngr.com/2017/05/torunarigha-father-told-shun-nigeria-germany/amp/

Why is Rohr begging this boy after he openly rejected his father's land?

junnyjake:


Well, all Nigerian players in Europe at the moment are average at best. Painful truth.

If someone tells u Ezekiel Imoh and Simon Moses are average, ask the person to tell Onyekuru to clear dem records in Belgium before we know Onyekuru is not average. Gbam.

However, is Vicmo average? Is Enyeama average? Is Mikel Obi average? Is Joel Obi average? Is Ndidi average? Is Martins Obafemi average?

I don't think so.

When your team plays badly, it has a way of rubbing off you in a -ve way.

This doesn't give fans the license to start questioning his abilities, this is someone Wenger has trusted to play in games against the top 6 oppositions in the league.

Singling him out for criticism is unfair, especially in a team where every other player were piss poor.

There is nothing wrong with Iwobi, he was just having a bad game today, he practically dominated in a game against ManUtd earlier.

I don't think Kanu Nwankwo deserved to win the 1999 APOTY award. Can someone tell me why he deserved it?

Neither do I think Emmanuel Amuneke deserved to win the 1994 APOTY award. Does he?



Okocha is not different from a comedian. Never serious and doesn't deserve any APOTY.

forgiveness:


I don't think there is anything wrong with his career. The guy threw away money to come down to Turkey but dem no wan pay am the small money dem suppose pay.


I think it is better he terminates that contract and moves to a better league or club.

Besides, it was only last season and 3 seasons ago he didn't play in Belgium because he obviously went for money since Nigeria is not interested in him even if he scorces one million goals in a season.

Patience would have done him a lot of good, he wasn't the only one neglected.
He wasn't happy at Qatar.


I hope he weathers the storm as I once rated this guy ahead of Simon.

forgiveness:


If someone tells u Ezekiel Imoh and Simon Moses are average, ask the person to tell Onyekuru to clear dem records before we know Onyekuru is not average. Gbam.

However, is Vicmo average? Is Enyeama average? Is Mikel Obi average? Is Joel Obi average? Is Ndidi average? Is Martins Obafemi average?

I don't think so.

Mikel is in Asia, And I can say Enyeama is world class.

The rest are average, even Vic Moses.

goldfish80:

Oezil and Sanchez started their last game, Iwobi didn't.
Its sensible for anyone to say he didn't justify his inclusion because he didn't start the last one.
Can you please stop nitpicking and reading meaning to my comments. I don't appreciate being made to explain every sentence I make.

their last EPL game? The one that ended 1-0 and Ozil was the scorer of the lone goal?

If it is the Newcastle game you are speaking of, I regret to inform you that Iwobi started that game and played 70 minutes of it.

Better apologise for this blunder.

forgiveness:


If someone tells u Ezekiel Imoh and Simon Moses are average, ask the person to tell Onyekuru to clear dem records in Belgium before we know Onyekuru is not average. Gbam.

However, is Vicmo average? Is Enyeama average? Is Mikel Obi average? Is Joel Obi average? Is Ndidi average? Is Martins Obafemi average?

I don't think so.

I'd seriously love to know what records Imoh and Simon have set in Belgium.

junnyjake:



Patience would have done him a lot of good, he wasn't the only one neglected.
He wasn't happy at Qatar.


I hope he weathers the storm as I once rated this guy ahead of Simon.

Which patient?

Somebody scored double digit goals for two season yet he only had one or two caps for the national team. What do you expect?

Clubs wants to get back their investment and they believe if you are z national team player you stock will rise but he wasn't getting the nod hence the need to make haste while the sun shine.


Martins also did all he could to play for the SE. It was for that reason he left the big money in Russia to play in Levante but he was still ignored despite his performance in the la liga.

My guy, he ran for his dare life after he saw hand written on the wall.

junnyjake:


Mikel is in Asia, And I can say Enyeama is world class.

The rest are average, even Vic Moses.

Mikel is in Asia, what does that have to do with the question? Is he average?

Enyeama is World Class? From the mouth of Nigerians.....

safarigirl:
Mikel is in Asia, what does that have to do with the question? Is he average?

Enyeama is World Class? From the mouth of Nigerians.....

In the post forgiveness quoted I specified "Europe" go check, I don't just say things for saying sake.


Any reason why u feel Enyeama ain't World class?

forgiveness:


Which patient?

Somebody scored double digit goals for two season yet he only had one or two caps for the national team. What do you expect?

Clubs wants to get back their investment and they believe if you are z national team player you stock will rise but he wasn't getting the nod hence the need to make haste while the sun shine.


Martins also did all he could to play for the SE. It was for that reason he left the big money in Russia to play in Levante but he was still ignored despite his performance in the la liga.

My guy, he ran for his dare life after he saw hand written on the wall.

I guess no one was satisfied with that 2014 squad. We can never find the answer to the question Why, as it concerns those who made it and those who didn't.

junnyjake:


I'd seriously love to know what records Imoh and Simon have set in Belgium.

Simon Moses singlehandedly helped Gent to win their first ever league title. So tey he won 5 - 8 MOTM.


Eziekel was also influential to Standard Liege's qualifying for the champions league. He scored the fasted goals of the sesson or in the Belgium pro league.

The biggest flop of the year to me is Renato Sanchez. With the hype that boy came with I thought he was the next big thing after Ronaldo.

Ebuehi's assist.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UZA1jUHSzo

Loogan:

You sha, you will bring every point in this world just to specially undermine Nigeria players. The only reason man city let him go was because iheanacho was the top goalscorer at the time for Nigeria in our qualifying series, it's only natural we clamor for game time for him, which apparently pep could see with his eyes that the boy deserved game time, so leave that "Found Wanting" tag you always push up, ur so comical with your comments sometimes I find it hard to believe your constantly in a football environment, just because of the bias you put in your comments. people in football should never be biased.
Oga if you are only has good as your last game guys like bony before he came back to form, loic remy, januzaj, depay at Man U, Luke Shaw, Danny ings, invanovic lastly Falcao at Man U and Chelsea would never get another chance at the top level again, but they will because they have history and experience, you can never ignore that!
Your arguments are so flawed, under Shakespeare gray was a regular coming in as a substitute, you are making it look like the guy was completely frozen out of the team.
Oga man city did not beg anyone to buy KC if anything they wanted to keep him and continue his development that's how Good he was. Now I'm sure you know liecester were not the only team in EUROPE after him, the only way they got him was coz they paid top cash and even agreed to a buy back clause an average liecester fan knows they are lucky to have a player of iheanachos quality, FACT! So when you talk about his price tag please give this guy some respect because he deserves it! has not spent up to 6 months and you want to crucify him. lots of teams have had worse deals, the Great English academy system that produces Andy carrol the almighty Liverpool flop, or you think Man U have got thier returns on the money spent on Shaw? If not for Pep, even the English were starting to accept sterling was one of those countless overhyped wingers, or has chambers done anything in his arsenal career? Were all of these guys not big money transfers? And they didn't hit the ground running with all fees surpassing 30mil pounds so save it.
See it simple just let us know you are a Nigerian that loves and support the British NT, it would help understand why you say the things you say. You say success is a waste pipe a player Marcos Silva rates highly but you want us to invite aneke, aluko, onyedinma who are in lower leagues to the SE are they not his mate? Have they not been in the English system all thier lives? So what's the excuse why are they overlooked by major epl clubs for a waste pipe Isaac success? Oga try and be more open minded.

Your write up is supposed to be in reference to my post, which is essentially about KC in Leicester city.

However, you moved away from the main subject to carry out a number of negatively prejudiced presumptions that have no substance what so ever. So let’s break it down as if we are in the classroom and a misguided student is leading the classroom astray.

Consider the absurdity of the presumption you have make that I holistically specially undermine Nigerian players and continuously do so is implied in your rhetoric. First counter question, when and where please state. I have been advocating, advising and enabling Black African origin including Nigerian players in English football for donkey years. So that is total balderdash.

But I will stick with recent times, I have been advocating for into the English EPL and or as quality players that can add quality to the SE, such as Mba, Etebo and highlighted as well advocated the qualities of Ighalo, Enyeama, Ighalo, Obagoal, Joel, Ambrose, Aluko, Mikel and many others are these players from India and China . So that makes your unfounded prejudiced proposition nonsensical.

What is apparent is that your write is not about the main subject of my post but your negative misguided impression about me. I have definitely and continuously highlighted Nigerian origin players that in my opinion can still cut it and could bring additional quality to the SE. I am involved with English football primarily, so I have in depth specialist knowledge. If that is your definition of bias its wrong.

There are two main groups with regard to KC on this thread, the emotive, sentimental he can do no wrong group and the constructive realist group that says he needs to up his game. Excellence is achieved from hard work, realism and constructive criticism.

You seem not to understand basic subtlety and figurative speech, “you are only as good as your last game”. This implies that each game either pulls you up or pulls you down and football has always been a short-term profession, as a result time is something you do not get a lot of.

Then the next thing you did was to comment on things you really have no idea about but rely on hearsay and what you read in the papers. KC was considered by a number of different clubs true, but Leicester was the only club willing to accept the terms City offered irrespective of how unreasonable they were. You may call it desperation or whatever on the part of Leicester and also on the part of KC, who knew he wasn’t going to get game time in City.

You talked about one of the biggest scams and financial flops in English football Andy Carroll. The manager of Liverpool Kenny Dalglish had an interest in the agency that negotiated the deal Andy in turn sacked his legal agent two weeks before the transfer was made.

In football actions speak louder than words, I have known too many managers to learn this very valuable lesson. Marco is simply speaking up a player he has no time for and does not rate and needs to still make some money on. And you misguidedly use that as a basis to say success is quality. Indeed, he may be but with his attitude and approach I would say the EPL is not for him.

Finally, in your comparison to players playing in the lower tier, I will say it’s better to be an outstanding player in a lower tier of the league than a dead one that doesn’t even warm the bench in a higher tier of the league. Meanwhile the gap is not as huge as you may think Bristol city have just proved that in the FA cup after beating Man U.

Finally, finally i talked about the rise of Demerai Grey from bench warmer to first man on the team sheet and that was from initial training not games. You cannot accuse both Managers of bias that's simply not being true. I will not bother talking about Danny Ings who I see almost day to day and the others you mention.

You need to move away from the emotive to the objective, upgrade and download increase your knowledge base learn from those who are informed on this forum. And don't just be a fan that thinks the loudest shout wins the game.

goldfish80:

I was talking about their premiership game not corabo cup.

The trio started their last premiership game.

goldfish80:


They find him worthy of investment. Hundreds of players have left Chelsea without the club putting anything on the table

Yea, a business decision not necessarily made for the field success.

What matters most is Iwobi keep being the Iwobi we know in the GWG

safarigirl:
all reactions have at least three players being blamed, not just Iwobi.

Those are just four random reactions though, random reactions could go both ways.

Anyway, I no watch the match.

I think I mentioned in their last match that Iwobi misplaces passes a lot, he was just losing the ball anyhow and you could tell he was either nervous, uncertain or juat scared by the way he played

Looked nothing like the Iwobi that plays for Nigeria, I suppose he continued like that in this game. I think he lacks confidence in an Arsenal shirt and I can't say why that is

Something must have happened psychologically to him because the Iwobi that first made a break in Arsenal's team, the #Big45 Iwobi was a ball of confidence, this #Big17 is weak