Oga stop getting too heated up about the issue. Adarabioyo deserves an approach. But hey don’t forget Rohr did not make a move on Tammy.
It looks like there has always been an intermediary that has a relationship with the player of interest. Rohr is in the best position to talk to the German trio for obvious reasons.

forgiveness:



I was expecting to get reactions from the @bolded but I was not disappointed there was no reactions.

However, when I mentioned Tosin Adarabioyo, Dominic Solanke, Lookman Ademola, Kehinde etc we saw negative reactions. Maka why?

What is the difference btw these German boys to the Queen's boys?

Did they not all openely rejected us?

Why is Rohr not critized here for trying to beg these boys?

Hahahahahahahahahahaha! Some people's heart can't be hidden here.

As for me, I am open to all foreign breed good enough for the SE and these include both the Queen's boys and German boys. Period

When Rohr said 4 slots, did he mean 4 invitations?
Two different things

junnyjake:


Sir, I don't really see Rorh a simpleton.

Only a simpleton would waste his 4 slots on defensive players.

He openly said his father didn't want him to play for Nigeria. But does that mean he doesn't want to play for Nigeria?

forgiveness:



Why is Rohr begging this boy after he openly rejected his father's land?

Does your father speak for you? Jordan Torunarigha is getting older and he will become even more independent as the years go by.

OMANBALA1:



If Ojokanjo(too ugly) who once played for Nigeria tells his son to run for his life what else needs to be said.

Many people are scared their players will not make it to Russia. Sentimental beings..

Even my favorite player Victor Moses, needs more competition. There is no room for laxity. Every player must fight till the last day in camp to deserve a place in Russia. Let the invitations keep coming. Competition will get stiffer, players will raise their game up. It is for the good of the team.

Having said that, the defenders I want us to invite include:

Tosin Adarabioyo
Dominic Iorfa
Kingsley Ehizibue
Jordan Torunarigha
Felix Uduokhai
Kevin Akpoguma
Efe Ambrose
Nura Abdullahi
Kenny Otigba

Yes the players who do not finally make it are ever welcome to fight another day #QatarInView

All those saying Echiejile's place is guaranteed. You are defending a guy who since his move from Portugal has not been able to cement a starting spot for every club he has moved to. Una really like mediocrity. Not like he is even shining in the GWG. His days are numbered in SE.

Modified
Even Musa Yahaya (for RWB) as training material. Yes I said so

Laugh wan kii me..."iwobi ia a big boy", "iwobi is a big game player", bla bla. Iwobi has been dropping form and fumbling for ages, his saving grace is that he is like an English boy. That boy has been getting opportunity upon opportunity yet he has done nothing with them. Iwobi wey dey fear to collect ball or keep it....sad

Joebie:
Does your father speak for you? Jordan Torunarigha is getting older and he will become even more independent as the years go by.

No, but I am sure he has strong influence on him. The chances of that boy playing for Nigeria is very slim, especially if Germany show interest.

goldfish80:

I was talking about their premiership game not corabo cup.

see as you are making excuses for Ozil and sanchez poor first half, FYI Iwobi also started the last epl game he was even subbed off due to injury.

Kog45:
I wonder o,this was a real rooted guy playing for shooting star then,if am right(icon4s, goldfish80, enomakos) one of the defected shooting players during training tour in Europe,so what do you expect.

Honestly Ojokojo and Irofa senior falls my hand cos of them am always praising Iwobi and Aina Dads for great encouragement giving to their wards to represent Nigeria.

If am Rohr i will be sentimental and takes Iwobi and Aina to WC to spite them cos Nigeria did a lot for them especially Dominic Irofa.

That name Ojokojo doesn't ring a bell.

Which period him play for Sooting?
I was not a sooting fan. So I only know their big/popular players.

Joebie:
Many people are scared their players will not make it to Russia. Sentimental beings..

Even my favorite player Victor Moses, needs more competition. There is no room for laxity. Every player must fight till the last day in camp to deserve a place in Russia. Let the invitations keep coming. Competition will get stiffer, players will raise their game up. It is for the good of the team.

Having said that, the defenders I want us to invite include:

Tosin Adarabioyo
Dominic Iorfa
Kingsley Ehizibue
Jordan Torunarigha
Felix Uduokhai
Kevin Akpoguma
Efe Ambrose
Nura Abdullahi
Kenny Otigba

Yes the players who do not finally make it are ever welcome to fight another day #QatarInView

All those saying Echiejile's place is guaranteed. You are defending a guy who since his move from Portugal has not been able to cement a starting spot for every club he has moved to. Una really like mediocrity. Not like he is even shining in the GWG. His days are numbered in SE.

Modified
Even Musa Yahaya (for RWB) as training material. Yes I said so

I would prefer you give us a list of strikers

Icon4s:


That name Ojokojo doesn't ring a bell.

Which period him play for Sooting?
I was not a sooting fan. So I only know their big/popular players.

Ojokojo got a few SE caps

junnyjake:


Sir, I don't really see Rorh a simpleton.

Only a simpleton would waste his 4 slots on defensive players.

Honestly i always respect your maturity when it comes to analysis and comments.

Some see it as a sin to criticise Rohr but you know what i have seen different managers managing Eagles from time immemorial and we do criticised them objectively but some see Rohr situation as no go area which i will never accepts.

On the German trio,i believe a comment brought up the discussion but i don't want to talk on it again.If Kevin Uduokhai, Akpoguma and Torunarigha are the ones to make it good for us no issue,all we want is the best.

Icon4s:


That name Ojokojo doesn't ring a bell.

Which period him play for Sooting?
I was not a sooting fan. So I only know their big/popular players.

In late 80s and early 90s,not really a fantastic player but thorough local breed player.

Icon4s:


I would prefer you give us a list of strikers

thank you o.

Defenders everywhere, but it is with the midfield and strikers that we should be slotting people.

We don't need to test more than two new defenders before the WC....if we invite more defenders, which slot will we have to invite forwards?

safarigirl:
thank you o.

Defenders everywhere, but it is with the midfield and strikers that we should be slotting people.

We don't need to test more than two new defenders before the WC....if we invite more defenders, which slot will we have to invite forwards?

Even if we need defender only Uduokhai Kevin fit the bill and is not even ready so why not harness what you have and move on though possible to see a good one before WC just like Chidi Nwanu gatecrashed into US 94 squad.

AIG07:
The Humble One, you're right. It's been a long time since I watched him play.

Barring any injury crisis, there is only 1 slot up for grab at the Mid-field. Let's say you were presented with a poll of players(Agu, Sokari, Joel, Nwakali) to pick from which one will you pick Sir provided the variables are constant?

to be honest with you....a fit Joel Obi will be great but his injury woes....is something that gives me lot of worries...in that case I will go wit sokari......

He can as well.opting for onazi....as he is more mobile than ogu and pacy too....but definitely a more better passer of the ball than the duo....

Joebie:
He openly said his father didn't want him to play for Nigeria. But does that mean he doesn't want to play for Nigeria?

let me tell you the truth...the father has a more greater influence on him....

same way chuka convinced his son by telling him the pro and cons....ojokolo could done likewise.....

he was in a better position to convince that boy.....I tell you most young players respect their Dad alot...take for instance the case of ebuehi, Aina and Iwobi......

as long as they've got a responsible father...they always seek their opinion on the scheme of things....

probably ojokolo said that...reason to save his job wit hertha Berlin...

forgiveness:



I was expecting to get reactions from the @bolded but I was not disappointed there was no reactions.

However, when I mentioned Tosin Adarabioyo, Dominic Solanke, Lookman Ademola, Kehinde etc we saw negative reactions. Maka why?

What is the difference btw these German boys to the Queen's boys?

Did they not all openely rejected us?

Why is Rohr not critized here for trying to beg these boys?

Hahahahahahahahahahaha! Some people's heart can't be hidden here.

As for me, I am open to all foreign breed good enough for the SE and these include both the Queen's boys and German boys. Period

hope you see how...they're doing every thing codedly. ...if it were the Queens Boys...by now..it would have been all over the dailymail.....metro uk and telegraph etc...

and i tell you Germany unlike stingy England won't even be bothered....because they have talents abound and moreover they're not as callous as england who have no plans for this kids....

I tell you....most of these young Anglo Nigerians...will end up not having an international career...not because they were not talented but poor decisons and the English system...

most of the English born players you mentioned...have parents who are highly respected and are of repute in the Nigeria society.....just a simple meeting wit pinnick especially those from Delta state like onomah.....will change everything....

you see these children are still obsessed wit playing for England....I tell you.

it won't be easy...for now...pinnick know the UK terrain better than rohr....I think the deal was for pinnick to take his sojourn to the UK to convince this lads...and rohr go to Germany being a national of that country....he knows the terrain and the system better.....

while pinnick effort prove useful in getting Aina and Iwobi the recent Tammy outburst really calmed him down recently....


we just pray for a good world cup outing...that I believe will change the mind i many....reason why I want Aina,Moses and Iwobi make the world cup list....

Aina presence will help us get Tomori...and should we be able to get Ejaria after the world cup....that will help us get the others in Liverpool....

forgiveness:



I was expecting to get reactions from the @bolded but I was not disappointed there was no reactions.

However, when I mentioned Tosin Adarabioyo, Dominic Solanke, Lookman Ademola, Kehinde etc we saw negative reactions. Maka why?

What is the difference btw these German boys to the Queen's boys?

Did they not all openely rejected us?

Why is Rohr not critized here for trying to beg these boys?

Hahahahahahahahahahaha! Some people's heart can't be hidden here.

As for me, I am open to all foreign breed good enough for the SE and these include both the Queen's boys and German boys. Period

Oh oga forgiveness,i was the first person to react and safargirl too may be you should read back.

We all seem not to know the stage we're in. The world cup is 6months away. We are no longer in the building stage-the core members of the team going to the World Cup are already known.

I only see 4-5 slots still up for grab. Either by already called up ones or those not yet invited. I can assure us all that all the names flying around won't get an invitation talkless of assessing them.

The team is on it's way in attaining stability. Too much tweaking in the name of bringing in inform, above average, foreign born, cap-tieing etc players will only crumble the whole thing...

It's time for 'finishing job', finding tune to the already written songs and not building. Let every player who wish to play for us wait patiently till after the world cup.

Here is my breakdown for the 4-5 slots.
1 @ GK department-we're still in search of a reliable safe pairs of hands.

1 @ Defence(CB) - as Back up for Ekong, Balogun, Awaziem

1 @ Midfield- A Mikel-like Player(not necessary a player in Mikel's mold but a player that can easily do Mikel's job in his absence).

1 or 2 Forwards @ Attack - 1 CF(a must find) and a Winger. A winger cos presently Moses Simon and A. Musa are loosing their grips.

How I wish we can always put in mind the above criterias when making a case for a player to be invited.

Humility017:

to be honest with you....a fit Joel Obi will be great but his injury woes....is something that gives me lot of worries...in that case I will go wit sokari......

He can as well.opting for onazi....as he is more mobile than ogu and pacy too....but definitely a more better passer of the ball than the duo....

It seems you've watched Sokari recently. I hope he is an improved/better version of his old self(the Sokari I knew-the one who was makin raves in the NPFL as a 18 or 19years old)

tbaba1234:

Ojokojo got a few SE caps

Under which coach?
And what is his other name?

komekn:


Your write up is supposed to be in reference to my post, which is essentially about KC in Leicester city.

However, you moved away from the main subject to carry out a number of negatively prejudiced presumptions that have no substance what so ever. So let’s break it down as if we are in the classroom and a misguided student is leading the classroom astray.

Consider the absurdity of the presumption you have make that I holistically specially undermine Nigerian players and continuously do so is implied in your rhetoric. First counter question, when and where please state. I have been advocating, advising and enabling Black African origin including Nigerian players in English football for donkey years. So that is total balderdash.

But I will stick with recent times, I have been advocating for into the English EPL and or as quality players that can add quality to the SE, such as Mba, Etebo and highlighted as well advocated the qualities of Ighalo, Enyeama, Ighalo, Obagoal, Joel, Ambrose, Aluko, Mikel and many others are these players from India and China . So that makes your unfounded prejudiced proposition nonsensical.

What is apparent is that your write is not about the main subject of my post but your negative misguided impression about me. I have definitely and continuously highlighted Nigerian origin players that in my opinion can still cut it and could bring additional quality to the SE. I am involved with English football primarily, so I have in depth specialist knowledge. If that is your definition of bias its wrong.

There are two main groups with regard to KC on this thread, the emotive, sentimental he can do no wrong group and the constructive realist group that says he needs to up his game. Excellence is achieved from hard work, realism and constructive criticism.

You seem not to understand basic subtlety and figurative speech, “you are only as good as your last game”. This implies that each game either pulls you up or pulls you down and football has always been a short-term profession, as a result time is something you do not get a lot of.

Then the next thing you did was to comment on things you really have no idea about but rely on hearsay and what you read in the papers. KC was considered by a number of different clubs true, but Leicester was the only club willing to accept the terms City offered irrespective of how unreasonable they were. You may call it desperation or whatever on the part of Leicester and also on the part of KC, who knew he wasn’t going to get game time in City.

You talked about one of the biggest scams and financial flops in English football Andy Carroll. The manager of Liverpool Kenny Dalglish had an interest in the agency that negotiated the deal Andy in turn sacked his legal agent two weeks before the transfer was made.

In football actions speak louder than words, I have known too many managers to learn this very valuable lesson. Marco is simply speaking up a player he has no time for and does not rate and needs to still make some money on. And you misguidedly use that as a basis to say success is quality. Indeed, he may be but with his attitude and approach I would say the EPL is not for him.

Finally, in your comparison to players playing in the lower tier, I will say it’s better to be an outstanding player in a lower tier of the league than a dead one that doesn’t even warm the bench in a higher tier of the league. Meanwhile the gap is not as huge as you may think Bristol city have just proved that in the FA cup after beating Man U.

Finally, finally i talked about the rise of Demerai Grey from bench warmer to first man on the team sheet and that was from initial training not games. You cannot accuse both Managers of bias that's simply not being true. I will not bother talking about Danny Ings who I see almost day to day and the others you mention.

You need to move away from the emotive to the objective, upgrade and download increase your knowledge base learn from those who are informed on this forum. And don't just be a fan that thinks the loudest shout wins the game.

Classic komenk was expecting this from you.
My point man is you sugarcoat the players you have a preference for regardless of thier form or how terrible they are, you never even say a thing when they have bad games. You say football is an unforgiving game and according to your statements 1 year is too long in football but you keep bringing that iorfa won motm awards in the championship which was like 3years ago When trying to asses players to call up when we know the guy is not even getting games at Ipswich, why do you contradict yourself, Same with onyedinma won motm at championship at 18 now 21 still at the same level if it's not dropped sef. How can you say you support the SE and your comments are always so soaked deep in bias and myopia? you will come all out to dissect some of our players and thier flaws, Just to make them appear incompetent, you ruthlessly criticize them without considering the type of backgrounds our players are from and you know all to well that they do not enjoy the training facilities your boys do! so how do you expect them to perform magic when faced against European rivals whom enjoyed better everything! Its totally unfair to compare them but the ones who still manage to make it you will come out one day when they drop form and start yarning dust you are not sure of. you dont have to degrade and bring our player down everytime you want to pass a little point, coz that's what you do, nitpick on Our players. you hardly talk about our players don't even acknowledge them, only time you do is when you have something negative to say with the same flawed references you bring up. I don't have any personal issues with you but you have a reputation and you should know your action(your comments) will always cause a reaction.

Humility017:

let me tell you the truth...the father has a more greater influence on him....

same way chuka convinced his son by telling him the pro and cons....ojokolo could done likewise.....

he was in a better position to convince that boy.....I tell you most young players respect their Dad alot...take for instance the case of ebuehi, Aina and Iwobi......

as long as they've got a responsible father...they always seek their opinion on the scheme of things....

probably ojokolo said that...reason to save his job wit hertha Berlin...

Oga Humility God bless you,i don't know why we always give excuses for some and sometimes we try to nail some,Mr Iwobi and Mr Aina tried all their best by guiding their wards that they must play for Nigeria but Ojokojo ex shooting star and Irofa ex Bcc Lion of Gboko thought otherwise and we are trying to protect them.

It was here when forgiveness mentioned Adarabioyo but some said NO citing his senior brother refusal to accept Siasia invitation during Olympics and Torunarigha whose Father openly said my child will not play for Nigeria should be considered though everything depends on Rohr.

Till today Kenneth Otigba,Dessers,Deji are ready anytime any day to play for Nigeria now look at Okoye Maduka very easy for us cos is willing,his parents too can say don't play for Nigeria but we are busy pursuing guys who are not ready to play for us and one way or the other they have said it.

Rohr should wide his scope of searching and it's even wrong for Amaju to do that on his behalf in any capacity,it's the responsibility of Rohr,may be Tammy would have say yes if it was Rohr not Amaju.

junnyjake:


Mikel is in Asia, And I can say Enyeama is world class.

The rest are average, even Vic Moses.

Can you pls define your definition of average? I want to understand from your view points. Thanks

AIG07:
We all seem not to know the stage we're in. The world cup is 6months away. We are no longer in the building stage-the core members of the team going to the World Cup are already known.

I only see 4-5 slots still up for grab. Either by already called up ones or those not yet invited. I can assure us all that all the names flying around won't get an invitation talkless of assessing them.

The team is on it's way in attaining stability. Too much tweaking in the name of bringing in inform, above average, foreign born, cap-tieing etc players will only crumble the whole thing...

It's time for 'finishing job', finding tune to the already written songs and not building. Let every player who wish to play for us wait patiently till after the world cup.

Here is my breakdown for the 4-5 slots.
1 @ GK department-we're still in search of a reliable safe pairs of hands.

1 @ Defence(CB) - as Back up for Ekong, Balogun, Awaziem

1 @ Midfield- A Mikel-like Player(not necessary a player in Mikel's mold but a player that can easily do Mikel's job in his absence).

1 or 2 Forwards @ Attack - 1 CF(a must find) and a Winger. A winger cos presently Moses Simon and A. Musa are loosing their grips.

How I wish we can always put in mind the above criterias when making a case for a player to be invited.

You're 100% spot on. I don't know why we have so many gullible fans here... mentioning average players here and there. Thwybshould all wait till after the WC

tbaba1234:

Yea, a business decision not necessarily made for the field success.

Nobody invests in a dud

jihday:
see as you are making excuses for Ozil and sanchez poor first half, FYI Iwobi also started the last epl game he was even subbed off due to injury.

I never knew I must criticise every Arsenal player before I criticise Iwobi. SMH

MetalJigsaw:
You're 100% spot on. I don't know why we have so many gullible fans here... mentioning average players here and there. Thwybshould all wait till after the WC

My Oga,pls respect guys here,Haba gullible fans?

AIG07:
We all seem not to know the stage we're in. The world cup is 6months away. We are no longer in the building stage-the core members of the team going to the World Cup are already known.

I only see 4-5 slots still up for grab. Either by already called up ones or those not yet invited. I can assure us all that all the names flying around won't get an invitation talkless of assessing them.

The team is on it's way in attaining stability. Too much tweaking in the name of bringing in inform, above average, foreign born, cap-tieing etc players will only crumble the whole thing...

It's time for 'finishing job', finding tune to the already written songs and not building. Let every player who wish to play for us wait patiently till after the world cup.

Here is my breakdown for the 4-5 slots.
1 @ GK department-we're still in search of a reliable safe pairs of hands.

1 @ Defence(CB) - as Back up for Ekong, Balogun, Awaziem

1 @ Midfield- A Mikel-like Player(not necessary a player in Mikel's mold but a player that can easily do Mikel's job in his absence).

1 or 2 Forwards @ Attack - 1 CF(a must find) and a Winger. A winger cos presently Moses Simon and A. Musa are loosing their grips.

How I wish we can always put in mind the above criterias when making a case for a player to be invited.

Agreed, don't you think Uzoho can do it in the absence of Enyeama and in the defence why not Omeruo cos i don't see all these FB saying yes to us,the midfield let see Sokari first or Joel Obi and the attacks why not Oyekwuru but is Moses Simeon losing it.The CF i don't see any one apart from Kayode,Nwakaeme who are already part of the team or we go for old horse Obafemi and Ogbeche or what do you think

safarigirl:
their last EPL game? The one that ended 1-0 and Ozil was the scorer of the lone goal?

If it is the Newcastle game you are speaking of, I regret to inform you that Iwobi started that game and played 70 minutes of it.

Better apologise for this blunder.

My bad. I didn't know he started.

tbaba1234:
Ebuehi's assist.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UZA1jUHSzo

Forget, I will take this boy to the WC ahead of all the RB we currently have because he is consistent in the Eredivise and has experience.