komekn:


Your write up is supposed to be in reference to my post, which is essentially about KC in Leicester city.

However, you moved away from the main subject to carry out a number of negatively prejudiced presumptions that have no substance what so ever. So let’s break it down as if we are in the classroom and a misguided student is leading the classroom astray.

Consider the absurdity of the presumption you have make that I holistically specially undermine Nigerian players and continuously do so is implied in your rhetoric. First counter question, when and where please state. I have been advocating, advising and enabling Black African origin including Nigerian players in English football for donkey years. So that is total balderdash.

But I will stick with recent times, I have been advocating for into the English EPL and or as quality players that can add quality to the SE, such as Mba, Etebo and highlighted as well advocated the qualities of Ighalo, Enyeama, Ighalo, Obagoal, Joel, Ambrose, Aluko, Mikel and many others are these players from India and China . So that makes your unfounded prejudiced proposition nonsensical.

What is apparent is that your write is not about the main subject of my post but your negative misguided impression about me. I have definitely and continuously highlighted Nigerian origin players that in my opinion can still cut it and could bring additional quality to the SE. I am involved with English football primarily, so I have in depth specialist knowledge. If that is your definition of bias its wrong.

There are two main groups with regard to KC on this thread, the emotive, sentimental he can do no wrong group and the constructive realist group that says he needs to up his game. Excellence is achieved from hard work, realism and constructive criticism.

You seem not to understand basic subtlety and figurative speech, “you are only as good as your last game”. This implies that each game either pulls you up or pulls you down and football has always been a short-term profession, as a result time is something you do not get a lot of.

Then the next thing you did was to comment on things you really have no idea about but rely on hearsay and what you read in the papers. KC was considered by a number of different clubs true, but Leicester was the only club willing to accept the terms City offered irrespective of how unreasonable they were. You may call it desperation or whatever on the part of Leicester and also on the part of KC, who knew he wasn’t going to get game time in City.

You talked about one of the biggest scams and financial flops in English football Andy Carroll. The manager of Liverpool Kenny Dalglish had an interest in the agency that negotiated the deal Andy in turn sacked his legal agent two weeks before the transfer was made.

In football actions speak louder than words, I have known too many managers to learn this very valuable lesson. Marco is simply speaking up a player he has no time for and does not rate and needs to still make some money on. And you misguidedly use that as a basis to say success is quality. Indeed, he may be but with his attitude and approach I would say the EPL is not for him.

Finally, in your comparison to players playing in the lower tier, I will say it’s better to be an outstanding player in a lower tier of the league than a dead one that doesn’t even warm the bench in a higher tier of the league. Meanwhile the gap is not as huge as you may think Bristol city have just proved that in the FA cup after beating Man U.

Finally, finally i talked about the rise of Demerai Grey from bench warmer to first man on the team sheet and that was from initial training not games. You cannot accuse both Managers of bias that's simply not being true. I will not bother talking about Danny Ings who I see almost day to day and the others you mention.

You need to move away from the emotive to the objective, upgrade and download increase your knowledge base learn from those who are informed on this forum. And don't just be a fan that thinks the loudest shout wins the game.

@bolded is accepted by me.

Kog45:
Agreed, don't you think Uzoho can do it in the absence of Enyeama and in the defence why not Omeruo cos i don't see all these FB saying yes to us,the midfield let see Sokari first or Joel Obi and the attacks why not Oyekwuru but is Moses Simeon losing it.The CF i don't see any one apart from Kayode,Nwakaeme who are already part of the team or we go for old horse Obafemi and Ogbeche or what do you think

is Kayode really a CF?

Me, I'm still here pinning for Dessers. If March reach we no see am, we'll have to see what those on ground can bring

Meanwhile, I still say we give Nwakaeme a second go at the rodeo and forgive his past transgression

Joebie:
Oga stop getting too heated up about the issue. Adarabioyo deserves an approach. But hey don’t forget Rohr did not make a move on Tammy.
It looks like there has always been an intermediary that has a relationship with the player of interest. Rohr is in the best position to talk to the German trio for obvious reasons.

Na who tell you I sm getting heated about the issue?

I am only pointing out the hypocritical and bias analyses of people here.


The point is the three German boys have rejected Rohr's advances and they did it openly thesame way the Queen's boys did but nobody is against or in objection against such move. Why?

But why are they against or in objection of those Queen's boys?

Is that not double standard?

Some people are not here to scout better players for the team all they want is their brothers in the team but me, I no go block my sense of reasoning with sentiments else I become a daft headed being devoid of critical common sense

That's why I don't bother if a FB rejected us at first because I know the heart of man is designed to change hence my open heartedness towards any naija player both home and abroad.

Loogan:

Classic komenk was expecting this from you.
My point man is you sugarcoat the players you have a preference for regardless of thier form or how terrible they are, you never even say a thing when they have bad games. You say football is an unforgiving game and according to your statements 1 year is too long in football but you keep bringing that iorfa won motm awards in the championship which was like 3years ago When trying to asses players to call up when we know the guy is not even getting games at Ipswich, why do you contradict yourself, Same with onyedinma won motm at championship at 18 now 21 still at the same level if it's not dropped sef. How can you say you support the SE and your comments are always so soaked deep in bias and myopia? you will come all out to dissect some of our players and thier flaws, Just to make them appear incompetent, you ruthlessly criticize them without considering the type of backgrounds our players are from and you know all to well that they do not enjoy the training facilities your boys do! so how do you expect them to perform magic when faced against European rivals whom enjoyed better everything! Its totally unfair to compare them but the ones who still manage to make it you will come out one day when they drop form and start yarning dust you are not sure of. you dont have to degrade and bring our player down everytime you want to pass a little point, coz that's what you do, nitpick on Our players. you hardly talk about our players don't even acknowledge them, only time you do is when you have something negative to say with the same flawed references you bring up. I don't have any personal issues with you but you have a reputation and you should know your action(your comments) will always cause a reaction.

his bias stinks to high heavens, you would be hard pressed to find one good comment on our Nigerian bred players from him.

Na wetin make I no dey read anything wey e post again, make I no dey he unnecessary vex

forgiveness:


Which patient?

Somebody scored double digit goals for two season yet he only had one or two caps for the national team. What do you expect?

Clubs wants to get back their investment and they believe if you are z national team player you stock will rise but he wasn't getting the nod hence the need to make haste while the sun shine.


Martins also did all he could to play for the SE. It was for that reason he left the big money in Russia to play in Levante but he was still ignored despite his performance in the la liga.

My guy, he ran for his dare life after he saw hand written on the wall.

So the best thing to do when you are ignored is to trow away your career? Is national team invite the only motivation for playing competitively? What about the hundreds of players being ignored? Should they go to Kuwait or Qatar or Malaysia?

Martins moved to a more exposed league, ezekiel moved to an obscure league. Don't make it sound like it was because he was ignored, dude followed the bucks shikena.

He made a bad career decision, no excuse whatsoever.

Kog45:
My Oga,pls respect guys here,Haba gullible fans?

No vex , bro

Joebie:
He openly said his father didn't want him to play for Nigeria. But does that mean he doesn't want to play for Nigeria?

OwnGoal


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My Son Won’t Play For Nigeria – Father Of Bundesliga Rising Star Torunarigha Tell Rohr
May 15, 201703620

Former Nigeria youth international forward Ojokojo Torunarigha has confirmed his son Jordan Torunarigha is not interested in playing for the senior national team of Nigeria.

Torunarigha is rated as one of the upcoming defenders in the German Bundesliga, where he scored his first senior goal over the weekend in their 2-0 win over Darrmstadt from his role as a left back.

He is presently with the U-20 team of Germany, and his father confirmed Nigeria have approached his son over a switch of allegiance as exclusively reported by Owngoalnigeria.com, but he told them his son is not interested in playing for Nigeria.

” I always say to him play like you can play football, and you can see it has helped him progress from the youth team of Hertha Berlin to the main team, and also for Germant through U-16 and now U-20. We were approached by the Nigeria Football Federation (NFF).

” They wanted my son to play for Nigeria but I told them he is not interested “, said the father who played 12 matches for Nigeria and also represented Chemnitzer FC in the 1990s.

Presently he works at Hertha Berlin as coach of the U-10 of the Bundesliga side, and aside Jordan his other son Junior plays for Dutch second division side Fortuna Sittard, who are coached by former coach of the Nigeria national team Sunday Oliseh.


http://owngoalnigeria.com/2017/05/15/my-son-wont-play-for-nigeria-father-of-bundesliga-rising-star-torunarigha-tell-rohr/



However his father Ojokojo who played 12 games for Nigeria in the 80’s revealed he told Nigeria that his son is not interested. A claim which Jordan has now confirmed.


Jordan is yet to team up with the Germany U-20 team at the World Youth Championship in South Korea due to the club duties, and he reckons progressing through the ranks at Germany is his aim.


“ I was told of the interest from Nigeria by my father but as someone who has played for Nigeria in the past, he advised me to focus on progressing through the ranks with Germany instead of considering a switch to Nigeria “, he said.



Whether he said it or nor is inconsequential to me because me I still want us to get him but for clarification sake, you can read the reason he has not pledged to play for us.

forgiveness:


OwnGoal


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My Son Won’t Play For Nigeria – Father Of Bundesliga Rising Star Torunarigha Tell Rohr
May 15, 201703620

Former Nigeria youth international forward Ojokojo Torunarigha has confirmed his son Jordan Torunarigha is not interested in playing for the senior national team of Nigeria.

Torunarigha is rated as one of the upcoming defenders in the German Bundesliga, where he scored his first senior goal over the weekend in their 2-0 win over Darrmstadt from his role as a left back.

He is presently with the U-20 team of Germany, and his father confirmed Nigeria have approached his son over a switch of allegiance as exclusively reported by Owngoalnigeria.com, but he told them his son is not interested in playing for Nigeria.

” I always say to him play like you can play football, and you can see it has helped him progress from the youth team of Hertha Berlin to the main team, and also for Germant through U-16 and now U-20. We were approached by the Nigeria Football Federation (NFF).

” They wanted my son to play for Nigeria but I told them he is not interested “, said the father who played 12 matches for Nigeria and also represented Chemnitzer FC in the 1990s.

Presently he works at Hertha Berlin as coach of the U-10 of the Bundesliga side, and aside Jordan his other son Junior plays for Dutch second division side Fortuna Sittard, who are coached by former coach of the Nigeria national team Sunday Oliseh.


http://owngoalnigeria.com/2017/05/15/my-son-wont-play-for-nigeria-father-of-bundesliga-rising-star-torunarigha-tell-rohr/



However his father Ojokojo who played 12 games for Nigeria in the 80’s revealed he told Nigeria that his son is not interested. A claim which Jordan has now confirmed.


Jordan is yet to team up with the Germany U-20 team at the World Youth Championship in South Korea due to the club duties, and he reckons progressing through the ranks at Germany is his aim.


“ I was told of the interest from Nigeria by my father but as someone who has played for Nigeria in the past, he advised me to focus on progressing through the ranks with Germany instead of considering a switch to Nigeria “, he said.



Whether he said it or nor is inconsequential to me because me I still want us to get him but for clarification sake, you can read the reason he has not pledged to play for us.

so, oga ojukokoro is probably pained that he did not have the thriving career he wanted with Nigeria and is using his son to get back at Nigeria and by extension, trying to spoil the boy's international career

May God not allow our parents become the 'village people' in our lives because of their own selfishness and ego

Hull’s Odubajo Set For February Return After Long Injury Lay-off

Peter Oriaku
3 days ago
Nigerian-born former England U-20 defender Moses Odubajo has set his sights on returning to full training in February after being sidelined with injury since 2016. Odubajo, 24, has not featured in a competitive game for Hull since the Championship play-off final win over Sheffield Wednesday in May 2016 after suffering a freak injury on the eve of last season.

A dislocated kneecap initially ended plans for a Premier League debut but two further setbacks have since left the right-back sidelined for a total of 17 months.

And according to Hull Daily Mail Odubajo who is still qualified to play for Nigeria as he has never been capped by England at senior level, is now hopeful he can get the green light to resume full training at the end of next month.

“I’m due to the see the specialist at the end of January and hopefully it will be good news for a return-to-play date,” Odubajo told Hull Daily Mail.


“From here it’s all pretty straightforward if things go to plan.

“I’m doing some training outdoors now which is good and I’m always around the boys again. Over the Christmas period there’ll be a little bit of rest but then get ready to go again in the New Year.

“I’m only looking forward now and fingers crossed I’ll be making my return before the end of the season.

“Only time will tell but I’m optimistic. I just feel like it’s only a matter of time before things go my way.”

Hull who also parade Super Eagles defender Ola Aina are currently 19th on 22 points in the Championship.

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2017/05/torunarigha-father-told-shun-nigeria-germany/amp/

Can he make it? If he comes out of injury and he eventually displaces Aina, then I know he is good enough for the WC.

darkelf:


But bros, with all this players being called up, enough friendlies are needed to test them against serious opposition

No be to call up oooo. Na to play exceenty as a team we want

left for me just one of those german guys is needed in that defence. I dont think they are in any way better than an in form and internationally experienced Omeruo. but then again i think i can hazard a guess as to why rohr wants to lure then NOW for the FUTURE(take note of the emphasis) he wants to use the clout of our WC to seduce these boys and keep them for the future because Balogun is getting older and losing pace and we need a backline of young men who will gather international experience while still young so we can enjoy them for long. this is just my guess and i see problems with it: we cannot use our costly WC ticket just so to lure these guys. because if we do so invariably that means we have to cap them at the WC which i dont think we should do. so left for me these guys except one should be invited after the world cup but by then the allure the wc can no longer be used to lure them. its a bit of a dilemma.

MetalJigsaw:
You're 100% spot on. I don't know why we have so many gullible fans here... mentioning average players here and there. Thwybshould all wait till after the WC

Gullible? Oh No! Sir, you've taken it too far. They are football enthusiast just as you are but with diff views/opinions which must be respected.

Kog45:
My Oga,pls respect guys here,Haba gullible fans?

thanks for doing the needful.

Icon79:
I agree that the Argies are frontloaded. I also agree that their defenders are aging and error prone. And I even agree that the Argentina has not played as a team so far ... they struggled thru the South American qualifiers. But you are forgetting three important points in your analysis:

a. Argentina would've qualified easily, if they were not unfairly penalized and points deducted from them in the qualifiers.
b. For the past 10 years (starting with Diego Maradona's coaching stint), Argentina has not had a good coach. The team has literally been carried by the players, especially one Leo Messi But now they have a pretty decent coach who would have about 2 months to tinker and meld the team before the big dance.
c. Any team with Messi should be considered one of the favorites. No one gave them much chance in Brazil 2014, but Messi carried them all the way to the finals and were brutally unlucky not to win it all. Hence, Argentina may be a one man team but when that one man is Leo Messi then there's always a chance. After all, the current Barcelona team is a one man team (Suarez is having the worst slump of his career. Iniesta is not the player he once was. Busquests has slowed down tremendously. So who do they have left - Leo Messi).

Finally, the only way Argentina would play with full strength against us in the final game is if they need to win that match to win the group. Other than, they can present their B side ... if they have already won the group, that is. It's only you naija fans who take these friendly matches serious, Argentina don't care. They don't see any rivalry with Nigeria .... Nigeria is yet to beat Argentina in a competitive match, besides age grade competitions. So there's no rivalry here.

and Argentina will play with the full strength of their squad against us. i read one ex Argentinian international say that match as in Nigeria v Argentian will be like the final. that friendly has upped the ante and a lot of soccer fans are looking forward to that match. Argentina cannot afford to be so naive and field a B team
O pari

the bolded is simply not true. that friedly match reverberated throughout the world of football even Maradonna was angry at the emphatic defeat because we made Argentina look ordinary. In addition, you yourself know thatevery single international TV analysis referenced that match while discussing group D. you say Argentina doesn't care but how come not long after we beat them 4-1 in 2011 they quickly organized another friendly so that the balance of power can be restored. don't forget that this last friendly is so proximate to the world cup. it must definitely weigh on their minds rivalry or not. its pure psychology. Not even Argentina themselves except for purposes of mind games can be so dismissive of us and say they don't care.

Joebie:
Many people are scared their players will not make it to Russia. Sentimental beings..

Even my favorite player Victor Moses, needs more competition. There is no room for laxity. Every player must fight till the last day in camp to deserve a place in Russia. Let the invitations keep coming. Competition will get stiffer, players will raise their game up. It is for the good of the team.

Having said that, the defenders I want us to invite include:

Tosin Adarabioyo
Dominic Iorfa
Kingsley Ehizibue
Jordan Torunarigha
Felix Uduokhai
Kevin Akpoguma
Efe Ambrose
Nura Abdullahi
Kenny Otigba

Yes the players who do not finally make it are ever welcome to fight another day #QatarInView

All those saying Echiejile's place is guaranteed. You are defending a guy who since his move from Portugal has not been able to cement a starting spot for every club he has moved to. Una really like mediocrity. Not like he is even shining in the GWG. His days are numbered in SE.

Modified
Even Musa Yahaya (for RWB) as training material. Yes I said so

Out of the CBs in your list only Iorfa is ready to play for Nigeria nau nau though I pray we convince the rest.



March is still far and anything can still happen.

However, I will either go for Ukpobai and Adarabioyo for the remaining slot for the CB position (if possible both) and will bring either Torunarigha or Deji Beyreuther to replace Echiejile in LB position but I think Torunarigha stands a better chance because he can play CB in 3 mans defence.



Ehizibue, Nura and are top talents. They can also play as a RW.

OMANBALA1:

Omeruo again ? To be honest , I rather play Awaziem in pair with Ekong until Balogun returns to form.

Against Argentina both awaziem and omeruo were solid. So either one of them Will do. My point is we still need omeruo.

Kog45:
Agreed, don't you think Uzoho can do it in the absence of Enyeama and in the defence why not Omeruo cos i don't see all these FB saying yes to us,the midfield let see Sokari first or Joel Obi and the attacks why not Oyekwuru but is Moses Simeon losing it.The CF i don't see any one apart from Kayode,Nwakaeme who are already part of the team or we go for old horse Obafemi and Ogbeche or what do you think

Uzoho is an amazing goalkeeper full of talents and potentials... But he is still a learner.

I have only watched him maned the goal post twice( for his club and country) and he well in those two matches.

I'll love to have him my world cup team as the third/youngest keeper for understudying and exposure...

Sir, you and I know that the World cup is full of pressure, tensions and anxieties being the most glamorous football fiesta on the planet and these makes it incomparable to other football competitions.

My Question is can Uzoho stands the heat and pressure when things get tough? He is the last man of defence. any rookie mistake(which is inevitable) will never go unpunished. Can he carry/bear the hope of an Entire nation of over 180million people? Don't forget he is just starting out his career and the least thing is putting him under a condition that could condemn/mar his international career.

If your answers to my questions are yes, the boy will have blessing to be in goal for us.

tbaba1234:

Omeruo is still omeruo. Excellent on his day. I think Rohr is looking for better players.

The thing is this:are those German trio better than him both in playing and in experience.

junnyjake:


Well, average players do come out of their shells to do some extraordinary things on rare occasions. We saw how Osaze won the player of the month award twice back-back a feat achieved by few at the time. Also winning the best African player that season.

How Ighalo became the highest goalscorer in the EPL 2015.

The coming together of average players with an hunger to succeed would be a team to beat.

All we ask for is that recognition be given to average players who've done some extraordinary things.

Is Osaze average? I don't think so. He was the second highest goal scorer in ligue 1 at one time.

Is undoing was not going to Juventus to win trophies and that could had brightened his chances of winning the APOTY.

I think his goal scoring record as a RW is better than Kanu Nwankwo who played as a SS and CF.

AIG07:
Uzoho is an amazing goalkeeper full of talents and potentials... But he is still a learner.

I have only watched him maned the goal post twice( for his club and country) and he well in those two matches.

I'll love to have him my world cup team as the third/youngest keeper for understudying and exposure...

Sir, you and I know that the World cup is full of pressure, tensions and anxieties being the most glamorous football fiesta on the planet and these makes it incomparable to other football competitions.

My Question is can Uzoho stands the heat and pressure when things get tough? He is the last man of defence. any rookie mistake(which is inevitable) will never go unpunished. Can he carry/bear the hope of an Entire nation of over 180million people? Don't forget he is just starting out his career and the least thing is putting him under a condition that could condemn/mar his international career.

If your answers to my questions are yes, the boy will have blessing to be in goal for us.

a mistake is inevitable for a goalie at any tournament, I don't know what you classify as a rookie mistake, maybe what Akpeyi did, but I doubt Uzoho is silly enough to do something like that.

The way you guys talk of rookie mistake, you would think experienced goalies never make mistakes. What is your definition of a 'rookie mistake'? And who are the first and second choice goalies you want to take to the world cup that Uzoho would be thirs behind them?

Humility017:


hope you see how...they're doing every thing codedly. ...if it were the Queens Boys...by now..it would have been all over the dailymail.....metro uk and telegraph etc...

and i tell you Germany unlike stingy England won't even be bothered....because they have talents abound and moreover they're not as callous as england who have no plans for this kids....

I tell you....most of these young Anglo Nigerians...will end up not having an international career...not because they were not talented but poor decisons and the English system...

most of the English born players you mentioned...have parents who are highly respected and are of repute in the Nigeria society.....just a simple meeting wit pinnick especially those from Delta state like onomah.....will change everything....

you see these children are still obsessed wit playing for England....I tell you.

it won't be easy...for now...pinnick know the UK terrain better than rohr....I think the deal was for pinnick to take his sojourn to the UK to convince this lads...and rohr go to Germany being a national of that country....he knows the terrain and the system better.....

while pinnick effort prove useful in getting Aina and Iwobi the recent Tammy outburst really calmed him down recently....


we just pray for a good world cup outing...that I believe will change the mind i many....reason why I want Aina,Moses and Iwobi make the world cup list....

Aina presence will help us get Tomori...and should we be able to get Ejaria after the world cup....that will help us get the others in Liverpool....

No be our NFF chairman dey open mouth upandan till he spoil market?

Pink should had shout his mouth.

Besides, rejection na rejection.

The German thrio openly rejected us. Gbam.

Kog45:
Oh oga forgiveness,i was the first person to react and safargirl too may be you should read back.

People wey I dey follow yan know themselves.

@ Kog45, Omuero, belongs to the group of players fighting for that remaining spot at the back. Omuero, Agbo etc

for the Midfield, There are so many players fighting for that slot(don't forget I have once ranked our midfielders on this thread). The likes of Etebo Agu who are regulars too belongs to this group others are Joel, sokari Nwakali etc but I leave the final decision for Rohr to take.

Onyekuru is a fine player but I'm afraid he 'may' miss out on the trip to Russia. This won't be because of his ability but he seems not to suit or fit into Rohr's plan.

Kayode? Well, i'm sorry to say this. The young man is not going to the world cup. He is not an exceptional player. I've known this right from his U-17days... He is not the type of player we're looking for-he is just an overhyped player.
Nwakeme is running out of time but he is a player I wish is given another chance in the green white green.

Ogbeche and Martins are old... Between the two I'll pick Martins base on ability. My only concern is that scuffle may arise in the team if these oldies are invited. Will Martins/Ogbeche be willing to recieve instructions from the likes of Mikel and Onazi? I don't want players who will be forming elders and babas for camp wey go spoil team spirit we already have V. Moses who doesn't roll with the boys. Increasing their numbers will only result into factions which will later disintegrate the team. I'll rather have a new invitee to this old men

So many criterias

safarigirl:
a mistake is inevitable for a goalie at any tournament, I don't know what you classify as a rookie mistake, maybe what Akpeyi did, but I doubt Uzoho is silly enough to do something like that.

The way you guys talk of rookie mistake, you would think experienced goalies never make mistakes. What is your definition of a 'rookie mistake'? And who are the first and second choice goalies you want to take to the world cup that Uzoho would be thirs behind them?

spot on. We all look for easy labels and tags so as to feel we are experts in life. Joe hart, bravo, seaman and a host of other keepers have made mistakes that if they were young keepers we would easily call them rookie mistakes. Mistakes are mistakes and there are none that are exclusively made by rookie keepers

safarigirl:
a mistake is inevitable for a goalie at any tournament, I don't know what you classify as a rookie mistake, maybe what Akpeyi did, but I doubt Uzoho is silly enough to do something like that.

The way you guys talk of rookie mistake, you would think experienced goalies never make mistakles. What is your definition of a 'rookie mistake'? And who are the first and second choice goalies you want to take to the world cup that Uzoho would be thirs behind them?

My former principal is 33 years in legal practice. When I started legal practice they were certain mistakes I made and can still makes that he will in 98% likelihood not make.Does he not make mistakes? He does but he will most likely not make my kind of mistakes cos he's made them when he was a young lawyer and he has learned from them. I know same thing applies to medicine, engineering, media, fashion etc. Legal practice and football are not the same but experience gathered in any profession gives perspectives on the job that rookies do not have.
Whit

Mujtahida:
My former principal is 33 years in legal practice. When I started legal practice they were certain mistakes I made and can still makes that he will in 98% likelihood not make.Does he not make mistakes? He does but he will most likely not make my kind of mistakes cos he's made them when he was a young lawyer and he has learned from them. I know same thing applies to medicine, engineering, media, fashion etc. Legal practice and football are not the same but experience gathered in any profession gives perspectives on the job that rookies do not have.
Whit

legal practice has to do with knowledge of the law in practice.

You cannot compare it with goalkeeping, at all. It's a case of apples and oranges

Joebie:
Many people are scared their players will not make it to Russia. Sentimental beings..

Even my favorite player Victor Moses, needs more competition. There is no room for laxity. Every player must fight till the last day in camp to deserve a place in Russia. Let the invitations keep coming. Competition will get stiffer, players will raise their game up. It is for the good of the team.

Having said that, the defenders I want us to invite include:

Tosin Adarabioyo
Dominic Iorfa
Kingsley Ehizibue
Jordan Torunarigha
Felix Uduokhai
Kevin Akpoguma
Efe Ambrose
Nura Abdullahi
Kenny Otigba

Yes the players who do not finally make it are ever welcome to fight another day #QatarInView

All those saying Echiejile's place is guaranteed. You are defending a guy who since his move from Portugal has not been able to cement a starting spot for every club he has moved to. Una really like mediocrity. Not like he is even shining in the GWG. His days are numbered in SE.

Modified
Even Musa Yahaya (for RWB) as training material. Yes I said so

In that list I would disqualify Tosin he is a youth player who is in a big team who is untested. Until he goes on loan and or starts playing regular for City for me non starter.

Efe Ambrose is playing in moi moi league but is now clearly one of the most outstanding Central defenders in the entire Scottish premier league. Furthermore his team held Celtic which is a good quality team in that league to a draw with Hibernian and he scored. The same Celtic that beat Anderlecht with Onyekuru at home 3 zero is not an easy feat.

Kenny Otigba leaving the Eredivisie to go to Hungary is not a player on the upward trajectory. I have my doubts.

My final view is that we need more quality in defence unfortunately the best of what we have, is not really top class. Particularly in comparison to the midfield and forward players.

This is a World cup the teams that will progress to the quarter finals will have top quality players from top clubs and leagues.

Of course there will be surprises but in the end the big boys will be running tings towards the knock out stages.

Kog45:
I wonder o,this was a real rooted guy playing for shooting star then,if am right(icon4s, goldfish80, enomakos) one of the defected shooting players during training tour in Europe,so what do you expect.

Honestly Ojokojo and Irofa senior falls my hand cos of them am always praising Iwobi and Aina Dads for great encouragement giving to their wards to represent Nigeria.

If am Rohr i will be sentimental and takes Iwobi and Aina to WC to spite them cos Nigeria did a lot for them especially Dominic Irofa.

Dominic Iorfa has been waiting for a call to the SE for near six months. He made his commitment quietly not on the pages of newspapers.

However, the NFF has not been straight forward in my opinion.

junnyjake:



My comment about Aina is of the reason that we can't take Ebuehi, Shehu and Aina to the WC, one of them must be dropped and it has no relation to the German boys.

Jordan is a predominant LB, so his inclusion might make sense. And I can't see any reason why Rorh would like to drop Awaziem for either Uduokhai or Akpoguma.

I really do not know however, I speculate if Uduokhai and Akpoguma have more pace that could be your answer.

Icon79:
Kenneth Omeruo is a great player. He's just one of those who were at the wrong place and the wrong time. There's no reason why he shouldn't be playing for Chelsea after the monster tournament he had at AFCON 2013. But Jose Mourinho sent him away on loan while retaining someone like Gary Cahill. I said it that time that Omeruo is a far better CB than Cahill!

I think that all those loan moves affected his game. It doesn't help your game when you're totally unsettled.


O pari

What's great about Omeruo

For me I use your club form as a launch pad for any measurement of ability.

You don't have to be great to play ok in your national team particularly when you don't have anyone who is clearly top class.

Consider how loan moves launched the career of Ola Aina, Bertrand Traore, Nathan Ake, Tega, Seyi Ojo, Jordan Ibe, etc.

Ethan Ampadu barely a year ago was playing for lowly Exeter he is now playing first team football for Chelsea he is just 17.

A loan move gives you the opportunity to show your ability. If you perform you get noticed and you move up.

Omeruo was at Middlesbrough and also in the Eredivisie in all these places he did not stand out to be diplomatic. If he has performed he simply would not be in Turkey.

So tell me what's great about him. Please let's not be blindly emotive he us not better than Cahill. And with Emenalo in Chelsea I can assure you he will not face any discrimination he just had to perform better.

Being great implies world class and if not world class top class and if not top class then very good in comparison to other defenders. Would you call him any of those things.

Comparing statistics in different league levels and ratings is an exercise in futility. For instance the Eredivisie has the highest goals to game ratio in the top twenty leagues in Europe. That tells us something abou the league that is ranked below the Turkish league.

But back to question ❓ objectively explain what makes him great Assess him as a player etc

forgiveness:



I was expecting to get reactions from the @bolded but I was not disappointed there was no reactions.

However, when I mentioned Tosin Adarabioyo, Dominic Solanke, Lookman Ademola, Kehinde etc we saw negative reactions. Maka why?

What is the difference btw these German boys to the Queen's boys?

Did they not all openely rejected us?

Why is Rohr not critized here for trying to beg these boys?

Hahahahahahahahahahaha! Some people's heart can't be hidden here.

As for me, I am open to all foreign breed good enough for the SE and these include both the Queen's boys and German boys. Period

One reason is negative emotive prejudice against Nigerian origin players in the UK.

I really don't know why

The largest pool of Nigerian origin players outside of Nigeria is in the UK.

There is no football academy without Nigerian origin players in it. If the esteemed NFF scouting team is doing its job. It should be getting these boys before England.

Ethan Ampadu was playing for Exeter City Fc in League 2 he was 15 that was last year 2016. He us now playing for Chelsea first team.

If you are outstanding in your team and league you are possibly better than a player who is standing still and forgotten to and struggling to sit on the bench in a higher level club and tier of the English football league system.

Icon4s:


Under which coach?

And what is his other name?

Ojokojo Torunarigha won a few caps under Westerhof, i believe.

Mujtahida:

The thing is this:are those German trio better than him both in playing and in experience.

They are young but playing at a higher level.