samhay:


Despite the fact that you still called him out, he still ignored

Lmao...... Dude couldn't tackle the facts

timesup234:
I already replied him. You must be have reading the thread upside down

ken4jj:


Why are you contradicting yourself? Do you have a personal grudge against America and diapora? You said there is more money to be made in Nigeria and Nigerians living here are doing better than those in diaspora and i agreed with that with reasons and examples.

You said America does not care for the welfare of her people and i ask how? Why do they have good roads, 24/7 electricity for all, good schools, good hospitals, better security etc. Why do our president get treated by white doctors in their own land? why do they children of the president, vice president, senators, ministers, governors, politicians have their children school in America and western schools? Why do their children obtain citizenship and PR status in these countries? and yet America does not care about their own people.

Ok,i agree we care more for our own people than America. why are those things i listed above not available to our own people here?

samhay:



Mind u, ur reply to the 1st 1 no get meaning

timesup234:
You are still reading upside down. He even agreed with my reply

ken4jj:


Why are you contradicting yourself? Do you have a personal grudge against America and diapora? You said there is more money to be made in Nigeria and Nigerians living here are doing better than those in diaspora and i agreed with that with reasons and examples.

You said America does not care for the welfare of her people and i ask how? Why do they have good roads, 24/7 electricity for all, good schools, good hospitals, better security etc. Why do our president get treated by white doctors in their own land? why do they children of the president, vice president, senators, ministers, governors, politicians have their children school in America and western schools? Why do their children obtain citizenship and PR status in these countries? and yet America does not care about their own people.

Ok,i agree we care more for our own people than America. why are those things i listed above not available to our own people here?

samhay:

timesup234:
My thread was about comparing the financial status of people living in both countries in regards to the kind of work they do. But some people came and derail the whole thing so it become necessary for me to let them know they are not the only mad people on earth. There was never a time I compared the infrastructural development and basic means of survival of both countries but I decided to give some proud people here a bloody nose by further revealing that by America standard their infrastructure is not all that, this I did with concrete evidence. It is widely known that America use the word "decay" to describe what have become of their infrastructure. Most are even predicting America will become a third world country within 20 yrs. Before you shout conspiracy theory, please be informed that the link below is from a very high ranking official during the Ronald Reagan's presidency

https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2015/10/29/us-on-road-to-third-world-paul-craig-roberts/

Saintp:


Bros or Sis, there is a crippling fuel scarcity in Naija now, I hope you are aware. As the most "patriotic " naija man, this is where we need you most. Use this energy you have that you are using to fight America to fight Abuja instead, so that they do the right thing for us. The fuel scarcity is killing Nigeria not America so live America alone. Face your own problems and forget about America.

Alikote:
he came with his money from Nigeria (120,000) dollars,and found out that most Apapa guys posting flashy chilling US pictures are in -120,000 dollar negative but having nice houses and car(temporary) if you can meet payment..... study leave is granted by Nigeria goverment to it workers to study abroad....for up to 4 years while still on employment and getting notional promotion with you mate and drawing up your salary ....till u graduate and return
back ...most lecturer in the university are granted this leave for Phd programs abroad....it tripple enjoyment (u are on ptdf scholarship(30,000 pounds) tution , 1000 pounds monthly stipends ,partime work(20 hrs) bring in another 500 pound weekly plus your Nijia salary(180 K )rolling ...u can be lucky to be a graduate assistance on phd (1000 pounds).... read more on study leave with pay in
civil service book

saucepan:


Just for your info. A Federal civil servant in Nigeria is entitled to 2yrs maximum PAID study leave, any course longer than 2yrs is without pay though you are entitled to your promotions.
First rule in Nigeria, don't be quick to believe everything people say. And how on earth does a Civil servant justly have 120,000 dollars. He must have "other sources".
Abeg try not to drag me into the argument, just volunteering verifiable information.
Thank you.

Alikote:
the guy with 120 k not a civil servant ....2 year plus one year extention ...a civil servant in ncc on 17 earn 45 thousand dollar annually while in nsia earns over 50 k dollar..civil servant get level

acorntree:


He and pidgin2 should come and analyse current fuel scarcity situation in their different domains for us. Useless set of people!!!! is this normal?

acorntree:


He and pidgin2 should come and analyse current fuel scarcity situation in their different domains for us. Useless set of people!!!! is this normal?

Alikote:
the guy with 120 k not a civil servant ....2 year plus one year extention ...a civil servant in ncc on 17 earn 45 thousand dollar annually while in nsia earns over 50 k dollar..civil servant get level

timesup234:
The Nigerians they claim are broke can even afford to buy a 1000 naira per litre. Over 100 people are victims of shootings every week in Chicago

acorntree:

which Nigerians can afford to buy a 1000 naira per litre? I just laugh when I see most of your comments. Shootings in Chicago, how does that concern a Nigerian hustling in America. Do you know the no of Nigerians that are kidnapped, butchered, and killed daily either for ritual or kidnapped to get ransom?

saucepan:


O di kwa egwu. Pls how much do you think the President and his Vice who are the highest paid civil servant earn.
You are so "informed" in a very weird way.
Like I said don't believe everything you are told. Even if a Civil servant earns as you said there are some sums we are not ideally expected to have cause we are meant to have expenses.
My brother ideally civil service should not make one a millionaire rather the corruption in civil service is what produces millionaire s.
The simple truth is that we have our values twisted as a nation if not this argument that has gone on for so long wouldn't have.
Not all of us want to be multi millionaires.
I am not doing badly in Nigeria but I don't understand the need for all my struggles to pay school fees etc. So if someone like me travels out to a mote organized society where there is less hustle and strife people like you might call me a failure.
At the end we all want different things out of life. So my brother to each his own.
By the way I believe completely in Nigeria no matter how rich I am in another mans country I will always have limitations but here at home I have all possibilities. I can even aspire to be President.
Instead of this back and forth argument which achieves nothing concrete in the end why don't you talk about opportunities our young people can tap into. As of 2010 NBS gave official statistics of those living below 1 dollar a day as 61%.
There is extreme poverty in the land. The wealth circulates in the hands of a few.
We the younger generation should be more interested in how to create a better Nigeria for the people coming behind.
I have lived in Nigeria all along and intend to. I know my EXTREME struggles before I started finding my feet. I am a graduate of 17yrs you wouldn't want me to list all I have done all these years to survive, if the country had offered a little help like easier access to loans, lower interest rates my journey would have been less rigorous and shorter.
So the question is. Do you accept the harsh realities of Nigeria: Our triumphs and our CHALLENGES..if yes what do you want to do in your own space to create a better Nigeria.
You can use your knowledge and energy to start a mentoring group for young Nigerians telling them of the opportunities open for them and how to utilize them. Trust me that will be a most effective way to stop them from travelling to "America".
I personally think this argument has gone on for too long, now there is a fellowership, quickly turn it into something positive like I illustrated above and posterity will thank you for it.
My two kobo advice.
Pls don't insult me oh! I don't do cyber war.
Have a great day people.

wonlasewonimi:

You guys don't know mad men can browse the internet in this jet age?

timesup234:
Just because we refuse to see some certain set of people as supernatural we are now mad? With all their science and technology more people still die in the United States annually than in Nigeria. Wake up and smell the reality coffee, humans will forever be limited.

timesup234:
Just because we refuse to see some certain set of people as supernatural we are now mad? With all their science and technology more people still die in the United States annually than in Nigeria. Wake up and smell the reality coffee, humans will forever be limited.

wonlasewonimi:


Guy I agree with anything you say 100%

Alikote:
why are Nigerians in America quick to leave the so called paradise to take up appoint in Nigeria ..director nafdac a professor of 30 year now in Nigeria public sector, professor yusuf usman also left to take up NHIS , kemi adeosun

drakeli:
Let me tell you why. Most of the time, working as a government worker in Nigeria is tantamount to being paid for doing nothing because the system is full of corruption. There is no free dollar in America. But the likes of those people you mentioned above a carrying free naira with Ghana must go to the bank everyday. That’s the reason the country is backward.

wonlasewonimi:


These are some of the multi-millionaires living in timesup234's area

https://www.nairaland.com/4249706/thousands-gather-daystar-free-christmas

Alikote:
we also have people lining up for free meals in charity run kitchen ....in america get real

timesup234:
almost 50 million Americans on food stamp, thr actual number should be higher since the US. government is run by propganda. We dont have such here.

sKeetz:

At least there government cares enough to give the less privileged free food. It shows that the taxes been paid are utilized for the benefit of all its citizens.

Which one has the Nigerian government being able to do? That's how they decieved gullible sheeples that they were going to pay unemployed youths 5k a month. Have they been able to deliver on their promise?

Keep it up with the clowning, am enjoying the free show

Alikote:
the nigerian state employs over 1 million nigerians as workers all the nigerian doctors in the us was trained for free by nigerian university on zero student loan

Alikote:
Ever where advantage and disadvantage.the us cant be compared to nijia....a developing and a develop country..u compare us to germany...nigeria to brazil etc