afrodoc2:

The players have to bear most of the responsibilty for this draw, however JM is not completely blame free either. His defensive mind set is affecting some of the players and a good example is that late Rashford non-pass.
And in terms of squad quality, Pep inherited a better squad but it was not 14 points better. Pep has definitely done a better job in terms of improving his squad, and in terms of improving the quality of the players he met in the squad.

We can't blame Mourinho for that Rashford stuff. I don't know if it was Mourinho who suggested that. But many coaches and players do same. We were missing chances and the boy felt since we are not lucky in front of goal, we should kill the time.

There was a match, a cup fixture against Chelsea we conceded late equalizer because Nani lost the ball we were passing round when he decided to beat a man and attack. SAF was furious. He said with few seconds to go, it makes more sense to pass accuracy the ball around.

On this one, I didn’t trust Rashford to make an accurate pass from there.

CapitalCee:


U a get time to argue with dayo, knowing that even if you smack a notorious fact in his face, h e will still keep his school of thought. Why bother

Facts are stubborn and consistent, show us your fact

raumdeuter:


It took you almost how many years to admit

and how many years will it take to give us peace?

This draw was not down to Mourinho. We created enough chances to win the game but football happened. We have also played much better. We were just unfortunate to concede that late equalizer. Shiiit happens.


How come nobody is talking about the clear cut chances Lukaku created for his team mates today but none for him? We should have a better outing next match

elrony:


E get anytime wey you go see true talk for Mourinho matter make you agree?

Carry your wahala comot here! !!

LOL,you sef see am? Na why sometimes e no pay to debate here. JM isn't all bad and 100 percent to blame for every problem AND he also isn't all good and 0 percent responsible for the difficulties, however you have 2 opposing camps here sticking to unrealistic positions.

PietroRico:
and how many years will it take to give us peace?

Until every knee bows and every tongue confess that Guardiola is a god to Mourinho

raumdeuter:


Until every knee bows and every tongue confess that Guardiola is a god to Mourinho

With all due respect.. FÚCK YOU and your guardiola

raumdeuter:


Facts are stubborn and consistent, show us your fact

Hahahahhah. Dayo dayo my man.
Facts like Pep splurging half a billion in a team that competed in the business end of the champions league. With 8 potential first teamers

nitrogen:


Brother Elampiro, we played against Leicester City Na, shuuuuu, that's the difference.

Leicester is not a push over. They can still hurt you. In the EPL, one nil up in added time is not safe even against a relegation haunted team.

PietroRico:


With all due respect.. FÚCK YOU and your guardiola

Guardiola is already fuccking you badly. 13 points gap midway into the season

chrisley024:
I have been complaining of Rashford for some games now but dude keeps improving on the negative side > SMH

My blame on Jose is his lack of dominating games. Leicester at one man down means we should be dominating the game, keep the ball and make them chase us instead of withdrawing and hoping on counter attack. We always have this problem against teams, it's tactical and Jose's fault. And no excuse of 'we don't have the players' should be given here cos Bristol kept the ball well against us.







Abeg how many chances were created for Lukaku, our CF, today or is it now his job to create for others

Because he's a Defensive Striker

elrony:


They took the ball to the corner for time wasting (and even initiated more corner kicks) , they weren't running into goalscoring positions then. It's normal na.
This one was out of it, Marcus no try at all.

Rashford is a kid. His mind was, "two minutes to go, let me give it to Pogba, he would give me back and then we take it to corner flag"

elrony:


LMAOOO

The one wey dem knack am weeks ago, baba never recover finish!!!

First match I dey see wey dem never see fault from Jambody my brother! !!

God no dey sleep!!!.

Is my God not a wonderful God? They said he was the one spoiling ball for others, baba no fit sleep well since that day but our God calm am down say he go put them to shame

elampiro:


We can't blame Mourinho for that Rashford stuff. I don't know if it was Mourinho who suggested that. But many coaches and players do same. We were missing chances and the boy felt since we are not lucky in front of goal, we should kill the time.

There was a match, a cup fixture against Chelsea we conceded late equalizer because Nani lost the ball we were passing round when he decided to beat a man and attack. SAF was furious. He said with few seconds to go, it makes more sense to pass accuracy the ball around.

On this one, I didn’t trust Rashford to make an accurate pass from there.

I am not really blaming JM for it, but i believe with a more attack minded manager he would have made that pass. The main isssue though is why was that a difficult pass to make for a professional footballer? Especially one that has been mooted as a special talent? There was acres of space for Lukaku and Mikki to run to on the right, a simple lofted pass to that side and it was a 2 v 1.
And if he was not going to pass why not run it to the corner flag? He did neither, even the bible warned us not to be lukewarm.......i am sure you can relate to this.

afrodoc2:


Rashford for one has to get back to the basics and put in extra work on the training field and the video room. His touch is not good and his decision making is actually getting worse.
Martial's problem is just mentality and work rate., he needs to hit the gym on a regular.
If the manager can't develop you then you better develop yourself. SAF recently said he was not responsible for Ronaldo's incredible work ethic and improvement at United, the guy did it almost independently.

True. I think Martial has turned a corner recently with good pperformances, but he needs to do more, Rashford should not go the way of other English hot prospect ooo. But like you said, they should train themselves personally they are not doing it for the manager.

chrisley024:
He neither passed nor took it to the corner flag. RB!

He passed it late. The other team mate passed to Lukaku and lost it. I thought since Rashford had wasted time, the other guys should have settled for time wasting.

raumdeuter:


Is Debruyne the only player in City? why dont you ask how many times Pogba missed chances after beating the keeper

Is Pogba a City player?

CapitalCee:


Hahahahhah. Dayo dayo my man.
Facts like Pep splurging half a billion in a team that competed in the business end of the champions league. With 8 potential first teamers

And how much did Mourinho spend and how many potential first teamers?

Today Man utd team DDG Jones Smalling Young Martial Lingaard Mata were all inherited.

Last league match vs Brom DDG, Valencia Jones Smalling Young Herrera Mata Lingaard, Rashford 9 inherited .

So we can say 7 to 8 potential first teamers were inherited

You see what I said about facts and stats

elampiro:
Is Pogba a City player?

If you are looking for the number of open net KDB misses, we can also check the number of open net Pogba misses

raumdeuter:


That team Guardiola inherited finished 4th in the league, with 66points Man utd that Mourinho inherited finished with 66points in the league too

They finished 4th due to injuries to Silva, Kompany, Aguero, De Bruyne,

But when some of them came back, they finished in UCL semi final.

eph12:

Is my God not a wonderful God? They said he was the one spoiling ball for others, baba no fit sleep well since that day but our God calm am down say he go put them to shame

You remember when na me turn to Lukaku Advocate of Nigeria defending Jambody when everyone wanted to roast him

I now asked them, How many Man Utd attackers are in form, till now no response

raumdeuter:


The difference is that City keeps on creating more and more chances, even after scoring 4 they would have created 10 chances

It's a lie. City also play conservative when they lead 2-1, 1-0 with few minutes left. We also it even against a small team recently.

elampiro:


They finished 4th due to injuries to Silva, Kompany, Aguero, De Bruyne,

But when some of them came back, they finished in UCL semi final.

So Man Utd that season cant claim injury was the reason they finished 5th? Injuries that were bad to the extent that Rashford Fosumensah and academy players were the ones starting

CapitalCee:


U a get time to argue with dayo, knowing that even if you smack a notorious fact in his face, h e will still keep his school of thought. Why bother

Lmao

elampiro:

It's a lie. City also play conservative when they lead 2-1, 1-0 with few minutes left. We also it even against a small team recently.

When I saw them leading Spurs 1-0 they were still attacking and Spurs is a top team

eph12:

Is my God not a wonderful God? They said he was the one spoiling ball for others, baba no fit sleep well since that day but our God calm am down say he go put them to shame

We give God the glory!!!

elampiro:


It's a lie. City also play conservative when they lead 2-1, 1-0 with few minutes left. We also it even against a small team recently.

At least they keep the ball and create chance if opportunity arises but we resort to parking the bus like today against a 10-man team

afrodoc2:


LOL,you sef see am? Na why sometimes e no pay to debate here. JM isn't all bad and 100 percent to blame for every problem AND he also isn't all good and 0 percent responsible for the difficulties, however you have 2 opposing camps here sticking to unrealistic positions.

As human being wey we be,sometimes pain and disappointment dey activate some kind things for our head.

The thing dey strong pass "Pashun"

raumdeuter:


And how much did Mourinho spend and how many potential first teamers?

Today Man utd team DDG Jones Smalling Young Martial Lingaard Mata were all inherited.

Last league match vs Brom DDG, Valencia Jones Smalling Young Herrera Mata Lingaard, Rashford 9 inherited .

So we can say 7 to 8 potential first teamers were inherited

You see what I said about facts and stats

Mata, Rashford, Smalling, Herrera are not first team.

afrodoc2:


I am not really blaming JM for it, but i believe with a more attack minded manager he would have made that pass. The main isssue though is why was that a difficult pass to make for a professional footballer? Especially one that has been mooted as a special talent? There was acres of space for Lukaku and Mikki to run to on the right, a simple lofted pass to that side and it was a 2 v 1.
And if he was not going to pass why not run it to the corner flag? He did neither, even the bible warned us not to be lukewarm.......i am sure you can relate to this.

From my live view, I was a bit scared he could make a mistake with the pass. I knew it was the best option, but it was Rashford. A perfect pass would mean lobbing it over the defender. Playing it between the defenders meant he could pass it behind Lukaku, or it get intercepted. Lobbing it, it has to be off keeper's limit.

Even Mata was played through into the box on the right side but his pass went straight to the keeper. Something that should have been a tap in for Martial.

As for killing time, you must not go straight to the corner flag when you outnumber your opponents in an area of the field or whole field. You can first make three of more passes in the middle before going to the corner flag.

elampiro:


Rashford is a kid. His mind was, "two minutes to go, let me give it to Pogba, he would give me back and then we take it to corner flag"

Baba Elamps, you don turn Charles Xavier o

No qualms, wetin happen don happen! Hopefully they would learn how to bury their chances.

raumdeuter:


If you are looking for the number of open net KDB misses, we can also check the number of open net Pogba misses

This is not making sense to the topic.

We had chances today that Aguero, De Bruyne would have scored at least two more.