forgiveness:



Scored goals with assists.

where and when? I remember Ejike was our second choice striker in that competition, so where was Kayode?

enomakos:
i did't know him either,he may be one of those home based who were uses as training material and dump before the arrival of the professional

poor ojokolo...no wonder... why he is pained....

KPOM!

I sincerely believe that most coaches would've given him a chance after that monster performance in the AFCON. But I doubt if Borinho was even paying attention. Sometimes it's all about being at the right place and at the right time.


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TheGoodJoe:
It is very sad the way Omeruo's handlers handled him. I feel it is another case of agents/managers more interested in keeping a huge paying contract over finding a way to develop the player.

Omeruo was a bright revelation playing for Keshi at the AFCON. A young player standing tall in a field of Giants. The highlight of his performance in the AFCON we conquered was when he marked out Drogba and Drogba could not muster a shot on target.

And, I doubt Cahill could pull off the feat Omeruo did at the AFCON.

Sad he went downhill from there but his talent showed in the game against Zambia during the qualifiers. The game he made a mistake. Apart from the mistake, I saw a field Marshall.

I hope he finds his form to add to our pool of quality defenders.

Mickael2:


where and when? I remember Ejike was our second choice striker in that competition, so where was Kayode?

Lol...you've not seen anything yet.

And talking about Mourinho, Terry Maguire just spoiled Borinho's Christmas with a last minute equalizer against a 10 man Leicester City!
Man Utd now trails ManCity by 13 points!


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Icon79:
Mickael2, so I presume that you're a Barca fan who isn't necessarily a Messi fan, eh? Wow, you and I are direct opposites

Without trying to rebut every single point you made, because many of them are valid, but here's the bottom line: Messi makes everyone better. To understand where I am coming from, just select a combined Real Madrid/Barcelona first eleven and tell me how many Barca players you'll have that team.


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I am not arguing the fact that Messi makes everyone better but what I am against is you saying everybody else is poor. Messi's presence on the pitch did not help Pique's defensive abilities, like I said everything attackwise moves through Messi and that we cannot argue with, if you remove him the second goal and the third goal wouldn't happen but Barca has the best defensive record in the league, other players need to be appreciated. You can't draw a combined XI without Ter Stegen, Umtiti, Alba, Busquets and personally Paulinho so what's the fuss all about?

MetalJigsaw:
You're totally wrong sir. Messi is the general overseer of both the Catalans (Barça) and the Albeceleste (his national team) as a matter of fact. Ronaldo is good but the small-statured magician is a wizard in the beautiful game of soccer. He posseses all Ronaldo's abilities but the reverse is far from the case. mind you, a Real Madrid fan but I never see any reason to be sentimental and decieve myself.

I believe He's that small- statured soccer magician one Argentine man (perhaps a sorcerer) spoke about that would exist, a number of decades ago.

I am not sure you under my position in this case

Let's agree that Barca, as a team, has generally improved both individually and collectively. Like I said on twitter during the game, Ernesto Velverde is gradually winning me over. Having said that, I have a load of issues with your potential combined Barca/Real first team.

So are you telling me that you will start Ter Stegen ahead of Navas? Nah, I don't think so.
And how in the world could you select Jordi Alba ahead of Marcelo? Are you freaking me??!!
And who would Umtiti replace at the CB? Is it Sergio Ramos or Varane? Oh please!
Sergio Busquets? Personally, I would prefer Casemiro but I can give you that ... so let's say arguably
Paulinho?? Oh please, don't make me laugh. Who is he gonna replace Kroos? Modric? Ascencio? Isco?

Bottom line, only Messi and arguably Busquets would make that team.


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Mickael2:



I am not arguing the fact that Messi makes everyone better but what I am against is you saying everybody else is poor. Messi's presence on the pitch did not help Pique's defensive abilities, like I said everything attackwise moves through Messi and that we cannot argue with, if you remove him the second goal and the third goal wouldn't happen but Barca has the best defensive record in the league, other players need to be appreciated. You can't draw a combined XI without Ter Stegen, Umtiti, Alba, Busquets and personally Paulinho so what's the fuss all about?

Jarus:


Is it the last 2 years they remember they are they descendants of Vikings?

*falls off third mainland bridge in laughter*

I kid you not, this was the exact thing on my mind when I saw that comment, but I just left it then.

So, since, dem no remember say dem get Viking ancestry.... Their coach must be a history teacher

Icon79:
Let's agree that Barca, as a team, has generally improved both individually and collectively. Like I said on twitter during the game, Ernesto Velverde is gradually winning me over. Having said that, I have a load of issues with your potential combined Barca/Real first team.

So are you telling me that you will start Ter Stegen ahead of Navas? Nah, I don't think so.
And how in the world could you select Jordi Alba ahead of Marcelo? Are you freaking me??!!
And who would Umtiti replace at the CB? Is it Sergio Ramos or Varane? Oh please!
Sergio Busquets? Personally, I would prefer Casemiro but I can give you that ... so let's say arguably
Paulinho?? Oh please, don't make me laugh. Who is he gonna replace Kroos? Modric? Ascencio? Isco?

Bottom line, only Messi and arguably Busquets would make that team.


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Messi, Busquets, Pique, Paulinho, Ter Stegen, Suarez and Alba.

Such a sad story. I am very sorry for Henry. I pray he has the strength to recover and push on.

Mickael2:


where and when? I remember Ejike was our second choice striker in that competition, so where was Kayode?

And who was the first?

Icon79:
Let's agree that Barca, as a team, has generally improved both individually and collectively. Like I said on twitter during the game, Ernesto Velverde is gradually winning me over. Having said that, I have a load of issues with your potential combined Barca/Real first team.

So are you telling me that you will start Ter Stegen ahead of Navas? Nah, I don't think so.
And how in the world could you select Jordi Alba ahead of Marcelo? Are you freaking me??!!
And who would Umtiti replace at the CB? Is it Sergio Ramos or Varane? Oh please!
Sergio Busquets? Personally, I would prefer Casemiro but I can give you that ... so let's say arguably
Paulinho?? Oh please, don't make me laugh. Who is he gonna replace Kroos? Modric? Ascencio? Isco?

Bottom line, only Messi and arguably Busquets would make that team.


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This post is quite funny
How will someone rate Navas over ter stegen
So benzrma is better than Suarez abi
Modric is better than iniesta
Casemiro is better than busquets
Varane better than umtiti. lmao


Madrid fans can sha joke carelessly

Icon79:
Let's agree that Barca, as a team, has generally improved both individually and collectively. Like I said on twitter during the game, Ernesto Velverde is gradually winning me over. Having said that, I have a load of issues with your potential combined Barca/Real first team.

So are you telling me that you will start Ter Stegen ahead of Navas? Nah, I don't think so.
And how in the world could you select Jordi Alba ahead of Marcelo? Are you freaking me??!!
And who would Umtiti replace at the CB? Is it Sergio Ramos or Varane? Oh please!
Sergio Busquets? Personally, I would prefer Casemiro but I can give you that ... so let's say arguably
Paulinho?? Oh please, don't make me laugh. Who is he gonna replace Kroos? Modric? Ascencio? Isco?

Bottom line, only Messi and arguably Busquets would make that team.


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On present form, Ter stegan is top 5 in the world.
Umtiti is arguably the best defender in the league
Busquet casemiro is a tough one but I'll go with Busquet. His confidence and composure is unreal.

enomakos:
i doubt it bro,he may have been invited to camp but did't get to play

I read that he has 12 caps.

Dessers goal..


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WyGUXfB4-w&feature=youtu.be&a=

tbaba1234:


I was simply pointing out the weakness in your analogy..

yeah every analogy breaks down at some point but the thrust of my post is that no matter the history of a team once they arrive at major tournies one has to deal with what they arrive with. thats why i think that argentina's struggles to qualify should not be used in dismissing them because once the WC starts one will have to deal with them at that level.

Who else is seeing that ndidi's passing accuracy has improved, and his overall forward play has improved greatly??

Mhen say what you like, that guy is the engine force of Leicester midfield, and moving the ball forward...

Highly underrated that guy..

Mickael2:


where and when? I remember Ejike was our second choice striker in that competition, so where was Kayode?

To be frank with you, Ejike was the third choice behind Kayode and Uche Nwofor.

safarigirl:
*falls off third mainland bridge in laughter*

I kid you not, this was the exact thing on my mind when I saw that comment, but I just left it then.

So, since, dem no remember say dem get Viking ancestry.... Their coach must be a history teacher

i often write from an informed background and not just because i want to write. first, i remember watching analysis of our WC group by pundits on tv just immediately after the draws and right there one of the commentators in his first comments about iceland played some really good history teacher and mentioned the Vikings. And then this evening i read on FIFA.com 'five reasons why Iceland can shock the world' and right there again the vikings were mentioned and that's where i lifted the quote i posted. the viking chant is considered an aspect of the team so much so that special emphasis is laid on it as can be seen in videos on youtube which i watched before making that posts.

whether its the word Vikings that nettles some i dont know but go beyond the word. its a metaphor that speaks about their history and the truth is every team will come to the tournament with a flavor of their national character. i just watched a Gary Lineker documentary about brazil and they talked about brazil playing football like they play samba and sure only a brazilian like ronaldinho could have done some little salsa on the ball before scoring a goal. not many know that Maradona's infamous 'hand of god' goal was an aspect of argentinian culture on display which considered such sleek cheating as an artform. so while the plain englishmen were appalled at such a gross unsporting display, argentines hailed maradonna for displaying what to them is some fine sense

the point is not where Iceland have been all this while. the point is this is the mentality they will bring to the stage now that they have arrived. it doesnt matter how long you stay away from this thread- anytime you come you going to bring the essence of your personality into your posts, your view points and anaylsis.
so we should look at our opponent with a fuller eye and i think one of the monikers here commended rohr for being the first coach to analyse things from a pyschological, cultural, geographic and tactical angle. for one thing its even more interesting to do so.

Mujtahida:

i often write from an informed background and not just because i want to write. first i remember watching analysis of our WC group by pundits just immediately after the draws and right there one of the commentators in his first comments about iceland he played some really good history teacher and mentioned the Vikings. And then this evening i read on FIFA.com 'five reasons why Iceland can shock the world' and right there again the vikings were mentioned and that's where i lifted the quote i posted. the viking chant is considered an aspect of the team so much so that special emphasis is laid on it as can be seen in videos on youtube which i watched before making that posts.

whether its the word Vikings that nettles some i dont know but go beyond the word. its a metaphor that speaks about their history and the truth is every team will come to the tournament with a flavor of their national character. i just watched a Gary Lineker documentary about brazil and they talked about brazil playing football like they play samba and sure only a brazilian like ronaldinho could have done some little salsa on the ball before scoring a goal. not many know that Maradona's infamous 'hand of god' goal was an aspect of argentinian culture on display which considered such sleek cheating as an artform. so while the plain englishmen were appalled at such a gross unsporting display, argentines hailed maradonna for displaying

the point is not where Iceland have been all this while. the point is this is the mentality they will bring to the stage now that they have arrived. it doesnt matter how long you stay away from this thread- anytime you come you going to bring the essence of your personality into your posts, your view points and anaylsis.
so we should look at our opponent with a fuller eye and i think one of the monikers here commended rohr for being the first coach to analyse things from a pyschological, cultural, geographic and tactical angle. for one thing its even more interesting to do so.

see as you write long epistle on top joke

It's not that serious man

safarigirl:
see as you write long epistle on top joke

It's not that serious man

i hate being misunderstood and i dont think it was a joke. i am not a starchy person, i know a joke when i see one and i know when i'm being misunderstood.

TheGoodJoe:
It is very sad the way Omeruo's handlers handled him. I feel it is another case of agents/managers more interested in keeping a huge paying contract over finding a way to develop the player.

Omeruo was a bright revelation playing for Keshi at the AFCON. A young player standing tall in a field of Giants. The highlight of his performance in the AFCON we conquered was when he marked out Drogba and Drogba could not muster a shot on target.

And, I doubt Cahill could pull off the feat Omeruo did at the AFCON.

Sad he went downhill from there but his talent showed in the game against Zambia during the qualifiers. The game he made a mistake. Apart from the mistake, I saw a field Marshall.

I hope he finds his form to add to our pool of quality defenders.

I can actually agree with you.

Omeruo is potential sadly that's not really been realised.

Haha!! Everybody is now posting, even folks who don't even watch La Liga



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emmyspark007:

This post is quite funny
How will someone rate Navas over ter stegen
So benzrma is better than Suarez abi
Modric is better than iniesta
Casemiro is better than busquets
Varane better than umtiti. lmao


Madrid fans can sha joke carelessly

Listen, Navas gets a bad rap but he's a top top quality goalkeeper. he has saved Real Madrid's brushes more than a few times but the fans always pick on him because their mind is fully set on De Gea. That's what happens when management undermines you by consistently talking about another goalkeeper.

Umtiti has definitely improved but to call him the best defender in the league is taking too far. He's still get beaten too easily on a one by one duel for my liking. Personally, I will pick either Sergio Ramos and Varane ahead of him


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SerVik:

On present form, Ter stegan is top 5 in the world.
Umtiti is arguably the best defender in the league
Busquet casemiro is a tough one but I'll go with Busquet. His confidence and composure is unreal.

whether this is a realistic appraisal of our team( which i feel it is not) or hubris speaking i'd love for us to shove some sand into this coach's mouth when we meet them.

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Croatian Coach On Nigeria : Iwobi & Moses Too Similar, No World-Class Players
Published: December 23, 2017
Croatian Coach On Nigeria : Iwobi & Moses Too Similar, No World-Class PlayersCroatian manager Tomislav Obradovic has predicted that Croatia will overcome Nigeria when both teams face off in the World Cup on Kaliningrad Stadium, Kaliningrad on June 16, and has stressed that there are several players with the same characteristics in the Super Eagles squad.

Obradovic was coach of the Rwandan U20 National Team for two and a half years, and he almost qualified the country for the 2009 Fifa U20 World Cup.

Asked to compare Nigeria's offensive players Iwobi and Chelsea's Victor Moses, Obradovic told Sportske Novosti: ''Compare all of them with their characteristics? Everyone is similar and quick, good within a group. But where are the world-class players?

''It's probably quite enough, but as a team I do not think they have world-class quality. Why do I say that? They have too many players with the same characteristics.

''They can not beat Croatia. Not in one segment of the game. Neither technical, tactical, nor organizational, nor in any sense. ''

Tomislav Obradovic warned the Croatian team that Nigeria's counter attack can be dangerous because they have fast players.

''The only way they can outsmart us is if they threaten us from the counterattack because they have such players, quick, fast.

''We have to hold the ball, wait and play our organized football because we are better, disciplined, stronger on the ball, better one on one ''

Igho Kingsley

Source: Allnigeriansoccer.com

Icon79:
Listen, Navas gets a bad rap but he's a top top quality goalkeeper. he has saved Real Madrid's brushes more than a few times but the fans always pick on him because their mind is fully set on De Gea. That's what happens when management undermines you by consistently talking about another goalkeeper.

Umtiti has definitely improved but to call him the best defender in the league is taking too far. He's still get beaten too easily on a one by one duel for my liking. Personally, I will pick either Sergio Ramos and Varane ahead of him


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One question, if Ramos and varane are better than umtiti and Pique, and navas is better than ter Stegan, then why has Barca conceded just 7 goals and kept 11 clean sheets while Madrid are busy conceding very basic goals?

Navas is so good yet Madrid is tapping up the bilbao goalie.
Top 5 goalies in Europe in no particular order.
Buffon
Neuer
De gea
Oblak
Ter stegan

No way navas is better than ter Stegan.

I would love to engage you on this but I wouldn't like to derail the thread. If you wish to continue, come to the Barca thread.

Bros, that's a very simplistic explanation you've just offered up there! There are way too many things that go into the game than just the quality of the players selected. That's why it's called A TEAM and not a collection of players.


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SerVik:

One question, if Ramos and varane are better than umtiti and Pique, and navas is better than ter Stegan, then why has Barca conceded just 7 goals and kept 11 clean sheets while Madrid are busy conceding very basic goals?

Navas is so good yet Madrid is tapping up the bilbao goalie.
Top 5 goalies in Europe in no particular order.
Buffon
Neuer
De gea
Oblak
Ter stegan

No way navas is better than ter Stegan.

I would love to engage you on this but I wouldn't like to derail the thread. If you wish to continue, come to the Barca thread.

I like these Croatians.. Exactly the kind of spirit we want them to have..

Mujtahida:
whether this is a realistic appraisal of our team( which i feel it is not) or hubris speaking i'd love for us to shove some sand into this coach's mouth when we meet them.

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Croatian Coach On Nigeria : Iwobi & Moses Too Similar, No World-Class Players
Published: December 23, 2017
Croatian Coach On Nigeria : Iwobi & Moses Too Similar, No World-Class PlayersCroatian manager Tomislav Obradovic has predicted that Croatia will overcome Nigeria when both teams face off in the World Cup on Kaliningrad Stadium, Kaliningrad on June 16, and has stressed that there are several players with the same characteristics in the Super Eagles squad.

Obradovic was coach of the Rwandan U20 National Team for two and a half years, and he almost qualified the country for the 2009 Fifa U20 World Cup.

Asked to compare Nigeria's offensive players Iwobi and Chelsea's Victor Moses, Obradovic told Sportske Novosti: ''Compare all of them with their characteristics? Everyone is similar and quick, good within a group. But where are the world-class players?

''It's probably quite enough, but as a team I do not think they have world-class quality. Why do I say that? They have too many players with the same characteristics.

''They can not beat Croatia. Not in one segment of the game. Neither technical, tactical, nor organizational, nor in any sense. ''

Tomislav Obradovic warned the Croatian team that Nigeria's counter attack can be dangerous because they have fast players.

''The only way they can outsmart us is if they threaten us from the counterattack because they have such players, quick, fast.

''We have to hold the ball, wait and play our organized football because we are better, disciplined, stronger on the ball, better one on one ''

Igho Kingsley

Source: Allnigeriansoccer.com

tbaba1234:


I read that he has 12 caps.

I will research on that

Joebie:
I like these Croatians.. Exactly the kind of spirit we want them to have..

That is not the croatian coach. Fans can be overconfident as long as the coach is not.

Icon79:
Haha!! Everybody is now posting, even folks who don't even watch La Liga



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hahaha this Madrid fan just wants to defend his club by all means

According to you only messi and busquet are worthy of starting in a combined xi and iniesta, stegen, pique , Suarez, alba, umtiti are bench LMAO yet barca won Madrid 3nil and despite not having Madrid calibre of players, they are still topping madrid with 14points and they are unbeaten this season in all competitions whereas the star studded Madrid have lost wala this season.


This is the very first time am hearing Navas is better than stegen.i no even believe person go get mind compare both of them sef..And u even play benzema over suarez ...You are one of a kind
Na ur type dey watch back of their tv

http://www.goal.com/en-ng/news/is-ter-stegen-the-best-goalkeeper-in-the-world-right-now/1vdmo9shh09c1q51bsz6w3c7j