There's alots of weak arguments on the thread..

The contents of the OP alone has defeated itself...

So here is what really cut my attention

The Man Of God who blesses you spiritually deserves your tithe.

You claim to be religionist
You defend your God
You claim he's mighty and able to do all things

But you still have someone you have to bride to plead to the same God on your behalf

Isn't that crazy

What is the essence of your prayers to him?
What is the essence of your fasting

Let's imagine your God to be a king and the pastors, prophets, priest etc as his emperors and messengers "do you really need to pay them to deliver your message?"

Sir combine all the assets of your family "is it up to a quarter of what your pastor possess?"

There are less people you know very well that needs that money.....

In addition: The reason why people pay tithes was because they don't really believe in there God, if they do, what they wants him to do for them they will pray to him directly instead of paying someone to do so on there behalf.


Cc hushpuppi
Cc Emusmithy

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purem:


There's alots of weak arguments on the thread..

The contents of the OP alone has defeated itself...

So here is what really cut my attention



You claim to be religionist
You defend your God
You claim he's mighty and able to do all things

But you still have someone you have to bride to plead to the same God on your behalf

Isn't that crazy

What is the essence of your prayers to him?
What is the essence of your fasting

Let's imagine your God to be a king and the pastors, prophets, priest etc as his emperors and messengers "do you really need to pay them to deliver your message?"

Sir combine all the assets of your family "is it up to a quarter of what your pastor possess?"

There are less people you know very well that needs that money.....

In addition: The reason why people pay tithes was because they don't really believe in there God, if they do, what they wants him to do for them they will pray to him directly instead of paying someone to do so on there behalf.


Cc hushpuppi
Cc Emusmithy

Sciencewatch

I like speaking for myself


According to my Bible(dunno if you believe in it), We are admonished to give One-Tenth of our income to our pastors.

Why? I'm sure you know who an Ambassador is. They are standing for God in catering for all of God's people. So God strategically channelled our getting blessed and other privileges to how faithful we are in obeying that.

Have I made myself clear?


CAN WE DISCUSS WITHOUT INSULTS?

IF YOU DO, I'LL DEEM YOU AS IMMATURE and step out.

purem:


There's alots of weak arguments on the thread..

The contents of the OP alone has defeated itself...

So here is what really cut my attention



You claim to be religionist
You defend your God
You claim he's mighty and able to do all things

But you still have someone you have to bride to plead to the same God on your behalf

Isn't that crazy

What is the essence of your prayers to him?
What is the essence of your fasting

Let's imagine your God to be a king and the pastors, prophets, priest etc as his emperors and messengers "do you really need to pay them to deliver your message?"

Sir combine all the assets of your family "is it up to a quarter of what your pastor possess?"

There are less people you know very well that needs that money.....

In addition: The reason why people pay tithes was because they don't really believe in there God, if they do, what they wants him to do for them they will pray to him directly instead of paying someone to do so on there behalf.


Cc hushpuppi
Cc Emusmithy

Sciencewatch

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This land na GRA oo incase we reach promise land

Also, when we give our tithes and offerings, we are not bribing God.

Okay...I dunno read a lot but I've read some books, so deep.
You see, spirits don't intervene on earth by themselves. They need a human vessel. They can't be seen or felt. Humans are their extensions.

Can you visit a NATIVE DOCTOR without an offering? Nope!
Why? The same reason God said, you don't appear before Me EMPTY.

Though the devil learnt all he's using from God Almighty.

The native doctor tells you, it's not for him but for his god, e.g, Amadioha. He ends up eating those things. His god, Satan doesn't eat yam or chicken.

The same goes for Pastors. The difference is they are under the HIGHEST POWER.

emusmithy:


I like speaking for myself


According to my Bible(dunno if you believe in it), We are admonished to give One-Tenth of our income to our pastors.

Why? I'm sure you know who an Ambassador is. They are standing for God in catering for all of God's people. So God strategically channelled our getting blessed and other privileges to how faithful we are in obeying that.

Have I made myself clear?


CAN WE DISCUSS WITHOUT INSULTS?

IF YOU DO, I'LL DEEM YOU AS IMMATURE and step out.

For the sake of the bolded.

Why do you people keep ignoring Deut. 14 vs 22-29? Isn't it clear enough?

emusmithy:


I like speaking for myself


According to my Bible(dunno if you believe in it), We are admonished to give One-Tenth of our income to our pastors.

Am not sure your Bible say so
On your main thread you only constructs the scriptures to suits your claim

Your Bible may say you should pay tithes but not 10% of your hustle

Why? I'm sure you know who an Ambassador is. They are standing for God in catering for all of God's people. So God strategically channelled our getting blessed and other privileges to how faithful we are in obeying that.

Have already give an example on the OP

My point is WHAT IS THE ESSENCE OF YOUR PRAYERS AND FASTING WHEN YOU STILL HAVE TO BRIDE SOMEONE TO PLEAD TO YOUR GOD ON YOUR BEHALF?"

Have I made myself clear?


CAN WE DISCUSS WITHOUT INSULTS?

IF YOU DO, I'LL DEEM YOU AS IMMATURE and step out.

@your last statement, you create a rule and broke it yourself

emusmithy:
Also, when we give our tithes and offerings, we are not bribing God.

Okay...I dunno read a lot but I've read some books, so deep.
You see, spirits don't intervene on earth by themselves. They need a human vessel. They can't be seen or felt. Humans are their extensions.

Can you visit a NATIVE DOCTOR without an offering? Nope!
Why? The same reason God said, you don't appear before Me EMPTY.

Though the devil learnt all he's using from God Almighty.

The native doctor tells you, it's not for him but for his god, e.g, Amadioha. He ends up eating those things. His god, Satan doesn't eat yam or chicken.

The same goes for Pastors. The difference is they are under the HIGHEST POWER.

And here you compare your "most high God" to his opposite number. Bravo man, bravo.

emusmithy:

According to my Bible(dunno if you believe in it), We are admonished to give One-Tenth of our income to our pastors.

Just curious. Your Bible? You could use The Bible, except you have a personal version you printed for yourself. I have never seen this verse, not even your MOGs have mentioned it. If such a verse exists, I think the issue of tithes won't be such a bother to Nigerian Christians.

emusmithy:
Also, when we give our tithes and offerings, we are not bribing God.

Okay...I dunno read a lot but I've read some books, so deep.
You see, spirits don't intervene on earth by themselves. They need a human vessel. They can't be seen or felt. Humans are their extensions.

Can you visit a NATIVE DOCTOR without an offering? Nope!
Why? The same reason God said, you don't appear before Me EMPTY.

Though the devil learnt all he's using from God Almighty.

The native doctor tells you, it's not for him but for his god, e.g, Amadioha. He ends up eating those things. His god, Satan doesn't eat yam or chicken.

The same goes for Pastors. The difference is they are under the HIGHEST POWER.

So pastors are delivering the money to your God

You can't compare your God with the ones you mentioned above

Atlease you have a personal connection with him

purem:


Am not sure your Bible say so
On your main thread you only constructs the scriptures to suits your claim

Your Bible may say you should pay tithes but not 10% of your hustle



Have already give an example on the OP

My point is WHAT IS THE ESSENCE OF YOUR PRAYERS AND FASTING WHEN YOU STILL HAVE TO BRIDE SOMEONE TO PLEAD TO YOUR GOD ON YOUR BEHALF?"



@your last statement, you create a rule and broke it yourself

English comprehension can set a Barrier between us; IF YOU INSULT...(that's a condition) I will (future tense) see you as immature. I Will walk out to avoid insults.

sonofluc1fer:

Just curious. Your Bible? You could use The Bible, except you have a personal version you printed for yourself. I have never seen this verse, not eve your MOGa have mentioned it. If such a verse exists, I think the issue of tithes won't be such a bother to Nigerian Christians.

Do you believe in your dictionary? That says Tithe is One-Tenth of your income?

tithe


noun (plural tithes)
- (archaic) A tenth.
- The tenth part of the increase arising from the profits of land and stock, allotted to the clergy for their support, as in England, or devoted to religious or charitable uses. Almost all the tithes of England and Wales are commuted by law into rent charges. Concept originates in the Hebrew Scriptures (Old Testament).
- A contribution to one's religious community or congregation of worship.
- A small part or proportion.

adjective (not comparable)
- (archaic) Tenth.

verb (tithes, tithing; past and past participle tithed)
- (transitive) To collect a tithe.
- (intransitive) To pay a tithe.
- (transitive) To levy a tenth part on; to tax to the amount of a tenth.

Give God your money in a man's bank account.

Anyway i don't think its anyone's concern how someone chooses to spend his/her money. You can decide to throw your money into the river, invest in a ponzi scheme or pay tithe.

As long as it is your money, your decision, by all means please do it.

I do not really have a problem with that.

emorse:


For the sake of the bolded.

Why do you people keep ignoring Deut. 14 vs 22-29? Isn't it clear enough?

Post it here for me to see.


Note: My Bible says I shouldn't take sentence in it that doesn't have up to 3 backups. So be ready to give two different places that says the same thing. Otherwise, it's redundant.

emusmithy:


English comprehension can set a Barrier between us; IF YOU INSULT...(that's a condition) I will (future tense) see you as immature. I Will walk out to avoid insults.

Lemme guess EXCUSES

I've never insulted you in any of my posts

purem:



Lemme guess EXCUSES

I've never insulted you in any of my posts

Ok

emusmithy:

Ok

But you are yet to answer my question WHAT IS THE ESSENCE OF YOUR PRAYERS AND FASTING WHEN YOU STILL HAVE TO BRIDE SOMEONE TO PLEAD TO YOUR GOD ON YOUR BEHALF?"

purem:


There's alots of weak arguments on the thread..

The contents of the OP alone has defeated itself...

So here is what really cut my attention



You claim to be religionist
You defend your God
You claim he's mighty and able to do all things

But you still have someone you have to bride to plead to the same God on your behalf

Isn't that crazy

What is the essence of your prayers to him?
What is the essence of your fasting

Let's imagine your God to be a king and the pastors, prophets, priest etc as his emperors and messengers "do you really need to pay them to deliver your message?"

Sir combine all the assets of your family "is it up to a quarter of what your pastor possess?"

There are less people you know very well that needs that money.....

In addition: The reason why people pay tithes was because they don't really believe in there God, if they do, what they wants him to do for them they will pray to him directly instead of paying someone to do so on there behalf.


Cc hushpuppi
Cc Emusmithy

Sciencewatch

Purem you disturbed my CHRISTMAS lunch.
Could your kindly explain to us why Atheists pay N27,000 tithes/fees monthly to their Prophet Richard Dawkins?

Why do Atheists pay such huge sums of their hard earned money to a man that is living in Mansions and demand that you pay him N2.4 million Niara just to have one lunch per year with him?

Why don't Atheists worship their No-god directly Sir? They all know many struggling people that can be helped. Is it because their No-god want people to suffer.

Your prophet Richard Dawkins got Finland to ban children under 13 from learning about God. He is proud that Finland legalized the marriage between two men. Now two women can also get married.

Let's imagine for one moment, your No-god to be a king and Richard Dawkins and Atheists are the emperors.

Would they be worshiping No-god with dicks up their booty? Imagine that.

purem:


But you are yet to answer my question WHAT IS THE ESSENCE OF YOUR PRAYERS AND FASTING WHEN YOU STILL HAVE TO BRIDE SOMEONE TO PLEAD TO YOUR GOD ON YOUR BEHALF?"

"Bribe"...You see, you don't read what I type.

I said, it's not bribing. It's called GIVING.
No one pleads to God on our behest. We do by ourselves. Are you misquoting me?

ScienceWatch:
Purem you disturbed my CHRISTMAS lunch.
Could your kindly explain to us why Atheists pay N27,000 tithes/fees monthly to their Prophet Richard Dawkins?

Why do Atheists pay such huge sums of their hard earned money to a man that is living in Mansions and demand that they N2.4 million Niara just to have one lunch per year with him?

Why don't Atheists worship their No-god directly Sir? They all know many struggling people that can be helped. Is it because their No-god want people to suffer.

Your prophet Richard Dawkins got Finland to ban children under 13 from learning about God. He is proud that Finland legalized the marriage between two men. Now two women can also get married.

Let's imagine for one moment, your No-god to be a king and Richard Dawkins and Atheists are the emperors.

Would they be worshiping No-god with dicks up their booty?

Really! didn't know all this your talking o

You really took your time to research lies

emusmithy:


"Bribe"...You see, you don't read what I type.

I said, it's not bribing. It's called GIVING.
No one pleads to God on our behest. We do by ourselves. Are you misquoting me?

Am not misquoting you

I just need to know why you have to GIVE GIVING someone money for what you can do by yourself

The Man Of God who blesses you spiritually deserves your tithe.

purem:


Really! didn't know all this your talking o

You really took your time to research lies

Today billions of truly decent people are bringing joy to the world. They bless their communities while Low-level Atheists curse them.

Chose to bless !!!!
Compliments of the festive season to you and your family.

emusmithy:

Do you believe in your dictionary? That says Tithe is One-Tenth of your income?

Hmm, the Bible and your English dictionary, which do you think came first? You don't believe in a dictonary. It's not a religious text. The definitions of the words can evolve over time.

All I asked was you show me a verse in the Bible that supports what you mentioned earlier - 'a tenth of your income should be given to pastors'. All you did was copy and paste the definition of tithe from a dictionary.

I'm confused.

emusmithy:


Post it here for me to see.


Note: My Bible says I shouldn't take sentence in it that doesn't have up to 3 backups. So be ready to give two different places that says the same thing. Otherwise, it's redundant.

The bolded shows that I'd be wasting my time arguing this topic. And it leads me to conclude that you support tithing because you are on the receiving end. I might be wrong though. Enjoy!

emusmithy:


Post it here for me to see.


Note: My Bible says I shouldn't take sentence in it that doesn't have up to 3 backups. So be ready to give two different places that says the same thing. Otherwise, it's redundant.

You really need a dictionary.

emusmithy:


I like speaking for myself


According to my Bible(dunno if you believe in it), We are admonished to give One-Tenth of our income to our pastors.

The Bible is a book written and composed by scammers. In the homo erectus era, it was also used to cart away the silver and gold of some innocent and simple-minded African homo-erectuses.

:

Why? I'm sure you know who an Ambassador is. They are standing for God in catering for all of God's people. So God strategically channelled our getting blessed and other privileges to how faithful we are in obeying that.

Have I made myself clear?

God Almighty who created Olorun, Yahweh, Allah, Vishnu, Moloch, Atum, Ra, Chaleb, Chimides did not have some special people as its ambassador. Rather, everyone in the universe is a manifestation of God Almighty. Giving your money to some sets of people in form of tithe is a measure of your gullibility and simple-mindedness.

purem:


Really! didn't know all this your talking o

You really took your time to research lies

Now you play dumb Purem. Let me give you another example of Atheistic genius Sir. Atheists believe there is no God on planet Mars. Sonofthunder, Kingebukasblog, Butterflyl1on and many others have lots of harrowing experiences with Atheistic genius.
So a natural progression of Atheistic genius is to make a plan to rather go live their. Your people want to colonize Mars.
Billions have already proudly been spent on plans to get them there. No-god is there, he rules on Mars.

Mars has no oxygen, No plants and vegetation, no atmosphere, no ozone layer to protect them from the dangerous rays of the sun. Mars only have a few hours of daylight. Atheists will have to constantly walk around with a heavy sealed suit with oxygen tanks, LOL.
Oh, dont forget that the soil is highly toxic. At least Atheists on Mars wont have problems with flies and ants.

Billions of healthy Dollars has already been spent to get away from the creator God of plant Earth. What can the lovers of God say to you?
The journey of a billion kilometers starts with the first step - Mohamed Ali

ScienceWatch:
Now you play dumb Purem. Let me give you another example of Atheistic genius Sir. Atheists believe there is no God on planet Mars.
So a natural progression of Atheistic genius is to make a plan to rather go live their. Your people want to colonize Mars.
Billions have already proudly been spent on plans to get them there. No-god is there, he rules on Mars.

Mars has no oxygen, No plants and vegetation, no atmosphere, no ozone layer to protect them from the dangerous rays of the sun. Mars only have a few hours of daylight. Atheists will have to constantly walk around with a heavy sealed suit with oxygen tanks, LOL.
Oh, dont forget that the soil is highly toxic. At least Atheists on Mars wont have problems with flies and ants.

Billions of healthy Dollars has already been spent to get away from the creator God of plant Earth. What can the lovers of God say to you?
The journey of a billion kilometers starts with the first step - Mohamed Ali

Only your God knows where you are seeing all this copy and paste sef

Or is it ur brain invention?

OtemAtum:
The Bible is a book written and composed by scammers. In the homo erectus era, it was also used to cart away the silver and gold of some innocent and simple-minded African homo-erectuses.

God Almighty who created Olorun, Yahweh, Allah, Vishnu, Moloch, Atum, Ra, Chaleb, Chimides did not have some special people as its ambassador. Rather, everyone in the universe is a manifestation of God Almighty. Giving your money to some sets of people in form of tithe is a measure of your gullibility and simple-mindedness.

Let me first greet OtemAtum.
Compliments of this blessed festive season to you and your family.

Can you kindly clarify your position on tithes/fees? What do you have to say to Atheists who are ordered to pay large monthly tithes/fees
of N27,000 to the prophet of Atheism Richard Dawkins. What does Atum say about this?

Prophet Richard Dawkins offer the followers of Atheism an awesome experience if they pay him N2.4 million to have one lunch with him per year. I would kindly like to know from you, what does Atum say to this?

Just in case Atum have no answers to this rare problem, the esteemed Nairalanders below can be free to give their answers;
GodsMopol, vaxx, bloodofthelamb, KingEbukasBlog, Ekatwins, Veron265, SpeedndAccuracy, felixomor, butterflylion, MAXIMAL123, Ermacc, shegssosplendid, Pidgin2, Roy52793

purem:


Really! didn't know all this your talking o

You really took your time to research lies

Now you play dumb Purem. Let me give you another example of Atheistic genius Sir. Atheists believe there is no God on planet Mars.
So a natural progression of Atheistic genius is to make a plan to rather go live their. Billions have already proudly been spent on plans to get them there. No-god is there, he rules on Mars.

Mars has no oxygen, No plants and vegetation, no atmosphere, no ozone layer to protect them from the dangerous rays of the sun. Mars only have a few hours of daylight. Atheists will have to constantly walk around with a heavy sealed suit with oxygen tanks, LOL.

Billions of healthy Dollars has already been spent to get away from the creator God of plant Earth. What can the lovers of God say to you?
The journey of a billion kilometers starts with the first step - Mohamed Ali

If you want more proof that God lovers will never go live on Mars. Listen to others. GodsMopol, vaxx, bloodofthelamb, KingEbukasBlog, Ekatwins, Veron265, SpeedndAccuracy, felixomor, butterflylion, MAXIMAL123, Ermacc, shegssosplendid, Pidgin2, Roy52793

OtemAtum:
The Bible is a book written and composed by scammers. In the homo erectus era, it was also used to cart away the silver and gold of some innocent and simple-minded African homo-erectuses.

God Almighty who created Olorun, Yahweh, Allah, Vishnu, Moloch, Atum, Ra, Chaleb, Chimides did not have some special people as its ambassador. Rather, everyone in the universe is a manifestation of God Almighty. Giving your money to some sets of people in form of tithe is a measure of your gullibility and simple-mindedness.

Can you kindly clarify your position on tithes/fees? What do you have to say to Atheists who are ordered to pay large monthly tithes/fees of N27,000 to the prophet of Atheism Richard Dawkins. What does Atum say about this?

Prophet Richard Dawkins offer the followers of Atheism an awesome experience if they pay him N2.4 million to have one lunch with him per year. I would kindly like to know from you, what does Atum say to this?

OtemAtum:
The Bible is a book written and composed by scammers. In the homo erectus era, it was also used to cart away the silver and gold of some innocent and simple-minded African homo-erectuses.

God Almighty who created Olorun, Yahweh, Allah, Vishnu, Moloch, Atum, Ra, Chaleb, Chimides did not have some special people as its ambassador. Rather, everyone in the universe is a manifestation of God Almighty. Giving your money to some sets of people in form of tithe is a measure of your gullibility and simple-mindedness.

Only a Satanist would be able to say that the Holy Bible is a book written by SCAMMERS. Chai !!!!

BudaAtum, Can you kindly clarify your position on tithes/fees? What do you have to say to Atheists who are ordered to pay large monthly tithes/fees of N27,000 to the prophet of Atheism Richard Dawkins. What does Atum say about this?

Prophet Richard Dawkins offer the followers of Atheism an awesome experience if they pay him N2.4 million to have one lunch with him per year. I would kindly like to know from you, what does Atum say to this?