I grew up as a very strong Christian until the problems of life started hitting me from different directions. When I was at the brink of suicide, I stopped going to church. My people in the village did spiritual fortifications for me which include seeing mysteries. Throughout the period I stopped going to church, God intensified effort to bring me back (grace, if you ask me. Now I'm back into the fold.

When I say the spirit of divination, I mean I would see anything that will affect me in the future before they happen so that I can know the step to take. Assuming someone will come to my house tomorrow about a matter, I would see the person in vision today and be told why he is coming and what to tell him. Another example: someone I didn't know anywhere contacted me from nairaland to handle a job for her. A day to the day she contacted me, where she is, the job description, and others were revealed to me.

Now God has been using other means to tell me that I should go and confess to other man of God about what I did that placed me in a position to foresee. The problem is that no one in my church is strong enough to advise about divination or whatever. Or, is God saying I need deliverance? Having reestablished my allegiance to God, does that mean I'm not yet free from demons? Why should I think demons are the ones at work since that Holy Spirit can do better?

Lalasticlala

This your story get as e be. I'm coming back.

Let us test this spirit that you have: Tell us the outcome of today's Premier League games. All of them.

brendan007:
This your story get as e be. I'm coming back.

That picture is irritating.

Ranchhoddas:
Let us test this spirit that you have:
Tell us the outcome of today's Premier League games.
All of them.

From his OP

When I say the spirit of divination, I mean I would see anything that will affect me in the future before they happen so that I can know the step to take.

Always read the fine print.

Ranchhoddas:
Let us test this spirit that you have:
Tell us the outcome of today's Premier League games.
All of them.

Read again. I said it's all about anything that concerns my life, not betting. You don't know anything about God and the realm of the gods.

Go to a Spiritual Church like Celestial Church...don't waste ur time on NL they will surely make u regret asking for help

kallmemrB:
Go to a Spiritual Church like Celestial Church...don't waste ur time on NL they will surely make u regret asking for help

I don't believe the version of faith in celestial church.

Bester44:


I don't believe the version of faith in celestial church.

Ok That's all I got

And also elaborate on the Vision of Faith you mean

kallmemrB:
Ok That's all I got

And also elaborate on the Vision of Faith you mean

Mine is a pentecostal Faith.

Bester44:


Mine is a pentecostal Faith.

which is?

am a celestian...I believe in God Almighty maker of heaven and Earth I believe in Christ Jesus His only begotten Son

kallmemrB:
which is?

am a celestian...I believe in God Almighty maker of heaven and Earth I believe in Christ Jesus His only begotten Son

We don't have to argue about this, bro. It's just the difference in doctrines. We believe the same God.

butterflyl1on:

From his OP


Always read the fine print.

K

Bester44:


Read again. I said it's all about anything that concerns my life, not betting. You don't know anything about God and the realm of the gods

You cannot know this and I did not say anything about betting.
I only gave a way to objectively determine whether you are seeing things.

Bester44:
I grew up as a very strong Christian until the problems of life started hitting me from different directions. When I was at the brink of suicide, I stopped going to church. My people in the village did spiritual fortifications for me which include seeing mysteries. Throughout the period I stopped going to church, God intensified effort to bring me back (grace, if you ask me. Now I'm back into the fold.

When I say the spirit of divination, I mean I would see anything that will affect me in the future before they happen so that I can know the step to take. Assuming someone will come to my house tomorrow about a matter, I would see the person in vision today and be told why he is coming and what to tell him. Another example: someone I didn't know anywhere contacted me from nairaland to handle a job for her. A day to the day she contacted me, where she is, the job description, and others were revealed to me.

Now God has been using other means to tell me that I should go and confess to other man of God about what I did that placed me in a position to foresee. The problem is that no one in my church is strong enough to advise about divination or whatever. Or, is God saying I need deliverance? Having reestablished my allegiance to God, does that mean I'm not yet free from demons? Why should I think demons are the ones at work since that Holy Spirit can do better?

Lalasticlala

First let me say this, anybody can see vision, either from God or from the devil..... the fact that you can see spiritually and God offer such gift does not mean yours is from God.

Oga I am not judging oooo but you know where yours is originating from.

I know where you are coming from that if one is in Christ he is a new creature old things have passed away...... but spiritually some strong hold neeed to be broken, my advice is your you to talk to your head pastor about it or a senior pastor and go for deliverance......... you might be shocked that after the deliverance God will give you the Genuine gift of seeing, and also you will be see and alter things in the realm of the spirit( most of these satanic sources of seeing vision, can only see and not change it....

Ranchhoddas:
You cannot know this and I did not say anything about betting.
I only gave a way to objectively determine whether you are seeing things.

Ok, bro.

Bester44:
I grew up as a very strong Christian until the problems of life started hitting me from different directions. When I was at the brink of suicide, I stopped going to church. My people in the village did spiritual fortifications for me which include seeing mysteries. Throughout the period I stopped going to church, God intensified effort to bring me back (grace, if you ask me. Now I'm back into the fold.

When I say the spirit of divination, I mean I would see anything that will affect me in the future before they happen so that I can know the step to take. Assuming someone will come to my house tomorrow about a matter, I would see the person in vision today and be told why he is coming and what to tell him. Another example: someone I didn't know anywhere contacted me from nairaland to handle a job for her. A day to the day she contacted me, where she is, the job description, and others were revealed to me.

Now God has been using other means to tell me that I should go and confess to other man of God about what I did that placed me in a position to foresee. The problem is that no one in my church is strong enough to advise about divination or whatever. Or, is God saying I need deliverance? Having reestablished my allegiance to God, does that mean I'm not yet free from demons? Why should I think demons are the ones at work since that Holy Spirit can do better?

Lalasticlala

have u been baptised by the holy ghost if not then it isn't him at work.


if there is no one in your church to go to for advice I would commend that u intensify in prayers and u attend a true church or if u want I can introduce u to some student fellowship leaders who are spiritually vibrant

Bester44:


We don't have to argue about this, bro. It's just the difference in doctrines. We believe the same God.

Op, @kallmemrB has given you the best piece of advice you could ever hope for.
That is where you need to go for exhortation, deliverance and transformation for good purpose.
Take it or leave it.

PenSniper:



Op, @kallmemrB has given you the best piece of advice you could ever hope for.
That is where you need to go for exhortation, deliverance and transformation for good purpose.
Take it or leave it.

I hitherto didn't want to argue, but I will have to engage you. Celestial Church is another form of initiation. A family member attends that church. I remembered the day I was there to enquire from God. I was told by the prophet that candles worth of 4k, coconut, local hen eggs, white cloth and others were needed for my prayer. So, someone that has no kobo should look for over 9k before he can receive healing and blessing from God. I was mandated to sweep ile-aanu for seven days, three proohets after prayer will smash the eggs on Apata Michael bla bla. Celestial Church is a confirmed deliverance centre but I don't trust that doctrine because I can't see that in the Bible. I'm even well versed in the Bible canons like Tobith.

Bester44:


I hitherto didn't want to argue, but I will have to engage you. Celestial Church is another form of initiation. A family member attends that church. I remembered the day I was there to enquire from God. I was told by the prophet that candles worth of 4k, coconut, local hen eggs, white cloth and others were needed for my prayer. So, someone that has no kobo should look for over 9k before he can receive healing and blessing from God. I was mandated to sweep ile-aanu for seven days, three proohets after prayer will smash the eggs on Apata Michael bla bla. Celestial Church is a confirmed deliverance centre but I don't trust that doctrine because I can't see that in the Bible. I'm even well versed in the Bible canons like Tobith.

Am sorry Abt ur Experience it sucks,Honestly there lots of Good and Also Bad Celestial church out there..Am a proud celestian but I always advice anyone either Celestian or Pentecostal to be spiritually inclined and always make bible their companion...

My Shepherd always says that in every given situation before you make any decision ask urself "What will Jesus Do?? and also Any Parish,Church Celestial or otherwise that you attend and their teaching,doctrine and principles are not in line with the bible that you should run...

Christ Jesus doesn't need chicken or goat for ur prayers to be answered but Most people don't even have time to study the bible to understand God so they fall as prey easily
.am truely sorry abt ur ordeal but bible says
Matthew 13:24-30 KJV
Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field: [25] But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way. [26] But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also. [27] So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares? [28] He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up? [29] But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them. [30] Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn....


In Jesus Name all the bad Churches giving celestial Church bad names will be destroyed

Bester44:


I hitherto didn't want to argue, but I will have to engage you. Celestial Church is another form of initiation. A family member attends that church. I remembered the day I was there to enquire from God. I was told by the prophet that candles worth of 4k, coconut, local hen eggs, white cloth and others were needed for my prayer. So, someone that has no kobo should look for over 9k before he can receive healing and blessing from God. I was mandated to sweep ile-aanu for seven days, three proohets after prayer will smash the eggs on Apata Michael bla bla. Celestial Church is a confirmed deliverance centre but I don't trust that doctrine because I can't see that in the Bible. I'm even well versed in the Bible canons like Tobith.

Imagine 4k for candles are you praying for Nigeria or the whole Universe lol

Bester44:
I grew up as a very strong Christian until the problems of life started hitting me from different directions. When I was at the brink of suicide, I stopped going to church. My people in the village did spiritual fortifications for me which include seeing mysteries. Throughout the period I stopped going to church, God intensified effort to bring me back (grace, if you ask me. Now I'm back into the fold.

When I say the spirit of divination, I mean I would see anything that will affect me in the future before they happen so that I can know the step to take. Assuming someone will come to my house tomorrow about a matter, I would see the person in vision today and be told why he is coming and what to tell him. Another example: someone I didn't know anywhere contacted me from nairaland to handle a job for her. A day to the day she contacted me, where she is, the job description, and others were revealed to me.

Now God has been using other means to tell me that I should go and confess to other man of God about what I did that placed me in a position to foresee. The problem is that no one in my church is strong enough to advise about divination or whatever. Or, is God saying I need deliverance? Having reestablished my allegiance to God, does that mean I'm not yet free from demons? Why should I think demons are the ones at work since that Holy Spirit can do better?

Lalasticlala

The gift is not from satan, but your misplaced allegiance is giving satan the room to use it for himself.

lol. God is only letting you know you are in a wrong place doing what you shd be doing somewhere else.

Satan can not give anything, it's all manipulations.

How do you think God reveals secrets to his servants? The Revelational gifts are what satan turns to divinations. You have a Revelational gift.

Let's exmaine someone with your exact gift in the Bible.

In 1Kings 1:14- 17 We see a Prophet by the name of Ahijah who was in the days of Jeroboam, you remember him? God told him, listen, Jeroboam knows he can't come to you for help becos of his sins, but he has sent his wife to come to you disguised thinking you'd know who she is because you are blind, but this is what you shd tell her...

And immediately she walked in, blind Prophet Ahijah called her by name and told her about her disguise and why she was there.

No one walks with and for God without revelations my dear.

You have a rare gift, and satan frustrated you so that you can Willingly submit your Will power(which is your greatest weapon) to him. You must willingly and consciously take it back.

Don't take this the wrong way because it's the truth. It will be a battle for you be totally free from satan because you gave him your will power legally. You must be strong, firm and resolute to take back your Will power.

Your soul is redeemed, but he will fight you in other ways. He will fight your marriage vehemently, if you are yet married. Watch it, he will send you his daughter pretending to be godly. Check with God before you marry. Don't depend on outer looks alone.

He will attack your finance, So Pay your tithe. Satan is attacking tithe because he knows what is in it. It locks him out of your finances.

If God is asking you to confess to someone, it must not be in your church. there is certainly a man or woman you are convicted about. Go to the person, look away from the reproach that may bring. Do it. Humility can not be archived in the absence of humiliation.

The Holy Spirit told me that Humility is not weakness, it is great strength, because it puts self down for God to step into that case.

When you fight to protect yourself from whatever, He can not fight for you.

A man walked into my Church (Not a member) during Covenant hour of prayer one morning. Before then, he was going to end it by killing himself, but he walked i to Church. He told the pastor who he was, and what he had done and that he wanted to confess before the whole congregation. On Sunday morning with the Church full to the brim, he took the podium and said things only a convicted man could say about himself before other people. Not minding what anyone will think of him.

You would think, he'd leave after that. But no. He stayed. He bared it all, he tolerated people looking at him as that person, but gradually acceptance came from those who alienated him before. He said he will leave by January. He has been here almost 8months.

So, you can do it anywhere to anybody. Satan gets paralyzed when we accept shame. Pride keeps us from accepting Shame. We remain i. Pride and Pride is Satan's character.

Kill Pride my brother. If pride dies in you. satan has lost the battle over you.

butterflyl1on:

From his OP


Always read the fine print.

You have time o.

kallmemrB:
Go to a Spiritual Church like Celestial Church...don't waste ur time on NL they will surely make u regret asking for help

That's like choosing between the Rock and a hard place.

Richdotcom:




First let me say this, anybody can see vision, either from God or from the devil..... the fact that you can see spiritually and God offer such gift does not mean yours is from God.

Oga I am not judging oooo but you know where yours is originating from.

I know where you are coming from that if one is in Christ he is a new creature old things have passed away...... but spiritually some strong hold neeed to be broken, my advice is your you to talk to your head pastor about it or a senior pastor and go for deliverance......... you might be shocked that after the deliverance God will give you the Genuine gift of seeing, and also you will be see and alter things in the realm of the spirit( most of these satanic sources of seeing vision, can only see and not change it....

You totally didn't read his Op or you didn't understand it. Read it again.

Bester44:


I hitherto didn't want to argue, but I will have to engage you. Celestial Church is another form of initiation. A family member attends that church. I remembered the day I was there to enquire from God. I was told by the prophet that candles worth of 4k, coconut, local hen eggs, white cloth and others were needed for my prayer. So, someone that has no kobo should look for over 9k before he can receive healing and blessing from God. I was mandated to sweep ile-aanu for seven days, three proohets after prayer will smash the eggs on Apata Michael bla bla. Celestial Church is a confirmed deliverance centre but I don't trust that doctrine because I can't see that in the Bible. I'm even well versed in the Bible canons like Tobith.

My dear and the Tobit's version of deliverance is even sorcery.

Bester44:


I hitherto didn't want to argue, but I will have to engage you. Celestial Church is another form of initiation. A family member attends that church. I remembered the day I was there to enquire from God. I was told by the prophet that candles worth of 4k, coconut, local hen eggs, white cloth and others were needed for my prayer. So, someone that has no kobo should look for over 9k before he can receive healing and blessing from God. I was mandated to sweep ile-aanu for seven days, three proohets after prayer will smash the eggs on Apata Michael bla bla. Celestial Church is a confirmed deliverance centre but I don't trust that doctrine because I can't see that in the Bible. I'm even well versed in the Bible canons like Tobith.

If you want to engage me, put monetary issue aside then i can enlighten you of the truth of Celestial church. Why ? Because there are ravenous wolves in sheep' clothing who are into the doctrine for their pockets and not for the glory of God. No problem requires as much as 4k worth of candles alone to solve. Quote me.

However, you must know that only Jesus, at His first coming, could give deliverance for free. Even some of those He healed were required to make some efforts to get healed.

analize701:

The gift is not from satan, but your misplaced allegiance is giving satan the room to use it for himself.

lol. God is only letting you know you are in a wrong place doing what you shd be doing somewhere else.

Satan can not give anything, it's all manipulations.

How do you think God reveals secrets to his servants? The Revelational gifts are what satan turns to divinations. You have a Revelational gift.

Let's exmaine someone with your exact gift in the Bible.

In 1Kings 1:14- 17 We see a Prophet by the name of Ahijah who was in the days of Jeroboam, you remember him? God told him, listen, Jeroboam knows he can't come to you for help becos of his sins, but he has sent his wife to come to you disguised thinking you'd know who she is because you are blind, but this is what you shd tell her...

And immediately she walked in, blind Prophet Ahijah called her by name and told her about her disguise and why she was there.

No one walks with and for God without revelations my dear.

You have a rare gift, and satan frustrated you so that you can Willingly submit your Will power(which is your greatest weapon) to him. You must willingly and consciously take it back.

Don't take this the wrong way because it's the truth. It will be a battle for you be totally free from satan because you gave him your will power legally. You must be strong, firm and resolute to take back your Will power.

Your soul is redeemed, but he will fight you in other ways. He will fight your marriage vehemently, if you are yet married. Watch it, he will send you his daughter pretending to be godly. Check with God before you marry. Don't depend on outer looks alone.

He will attack your finance, So Pay your tithe. Satan is attacking tithe because he knows what is in it. It locks him out of your finances.

If God is asking you to confess to someone, it must not be in your church. there is certainly a man or woman you are convicted about. Go to the person, look away from the reproach that may bring. Do it. Humility can not be archived in the absence of humiliation.

You are truly in the spirit. Who God asked me to go and confess to is a pastor I trust but in another pentecostal church.

I created this thread because 4 days ago, it was revealed to me that a girl would throw herself at me. Her name was revealed, what she would say to attract me was revealed, and I was told she has invisible horn on her forehead. We met 3 days ago. Since then, she gets pissed off if I don't chat her up much in a day.

Satan is actually attacking my finance and I have not been faithful with tithing.

PenSniper:



If you want to engage me, put monetary issue aside then i can enlighten you of the truth of Celestial church. Why ? Because there are ravenous wolves in sheep' clothing who are into the doctrine for their pockets and not for the glory of God. No problem requires as much as 4k worth of candles alone to solve. Quote me.

However, you must know that only Jesus, at His first coming, could give deliverance for free. Even some of those He healed were required to make some efforts to get healed.

Well, I will agree that I have not met a true celestial prophet.

Bester44:


You are truly in the spirit. Who God asked me to go and confess to is a pastor I trust but in another pentecostal church.

I created this thread because 4 days ago, it was revealed to me that a girl would throw herself at me. Her name was revealed, what she would say to attract me was revealed, and I was told she has invisible horn on her forehead. We met 3 days ago. Since then, she gets pissed off if I don't chat her up much in a day.

Satan is actually attacking my finance and I have not been faithful with tithing.

Whoever God wants, satan also wants. What will get you off from Satan's grip is prompt Obedience. Immediately you hear anything, run to do it. Satan gets frustrated when we obey YHWH.

Lol, @ the girl. You are fortunate to have this gift. Cut that girl off, never ever think you are strong enough to ward off satanic schemes. They casts spells and place Hexes on people. If you disobey your own master, it gives them room into you, So cut her off for your own good.

Tithing is not in the amount, it's obedience and discipline, and consistency that God intends to teach us.

My gift is dreaming and like you i dream things that'll effect me before they happen. If i tell you how many suitors i have let go because i had dreamed they weren't right? Folks thinks i'm mad. But, YHWH says, 'They will never be ashamed that put their trust in Him'. I will not obey and trust Him and be ashamed. That is not consistent with His character.

Bros, crave a tight relationship with God. The devil will keep trying to infiltrate your gift by planting messages to you, but check everything with the Word if God. The Holy Spirit will not speak outside the Word.

Paul says, even if an Angel comes to tell us to do what is not in the Word, we shd curse that Angel because he is not of the Lord.

Bury yourself in Word. Pls pls and pls, do the Word of God. If it says don't lie, pls don't lie.

Keep away from sexual sin, no sin is as devastating like sexual sin.

Keep the Spirit of Anger away. Satan will stir you up by using people around you to make you angry. Be alert to avoid getting angry to a point of saying or doing what you shd not.

Love all man, especially those who hates you. I just understood the power in loving those you hate you. If we know what we do to those who hate us if we love them eh. hmmm.

Your case is different. Because you are the redeemed of the Lord, and as a covenant Child, what affects others is not permitted to affect.

May the peace of God overtake you.

Bester44:
You are truly in the spirit.
Who God asked me to go and confess to is a pastor I trust but in another pentecostal church.

I created this thread because 4 days ago, it was revealed to me that a girl would throw herself at me.
Her name was revealed, what she would say to attract me was revealed,
and I was told she has invisible horn on her forehead.
We met 3 days ago. Since then, she gets pissed off if I don't chat her up much in a day.

Satan is actually attacking my finance
and I have not been faithful with tithing

analize701:
Whoever God wants, satan also wants. What will get you off from Satan's grip is prompt Obedience. Immediately you hear anything, run to do it. Satan gets frustrated when we obey YHWH.

Lol, @ the girl. You are fortunate to have this gift. Cut that girl off, never ever think you are strong enough to ward off satanic schemes. They casts spells and place Hexes on people. If you disobey your own master, it gives them room into you, So cut her off for your own good.
Tithing Giving is not in the amount, it's obedience and discipline, and consistency that God intends to teach us.
My gift is dreaming and like you i dream things that'll effect me before they happen. If i tell you how many suitors i have let go because i had dreamed they weren't right? Folks thinks i'm mad. But, YHWH says, 'They will never be ashamed that put their trust in Him'. I will not obey and trust Him and be ashamed. That is not consistent with His character.

Bros, crave a tight relationship with God. The devil will keep trying to infiltrate your gift by planting messages to you, but check everything with the Word if God. The Holy Spirit will not speak outside the Word.

Paul says, even if an Angel comes to tell us to do what is not in the Word, we shd curse that Angel because he is not of the Lord.

Bury yourself in Word. Pls pls and pls, do the Word of God. If it says don't lie, pls don't lie.

Keep away from sexual sin, no sin is as devastating like sexual sin.

Keep the Spirit of Anger away. Satan will stir you up by using people around you to make you angry. Be alert to avoid getting angry to a point of saying or doing what you shd not.

Love all man, especially those who hates you. I just understood the power in loving those you hate you. If we know what we do to those who hate us if we love them eh. hmmm.

Your case is different. Because you are the redeemed of the Lord, and as a covenant Child, what affects others is not permitted to affect.

May the peace of God overtake you.

Fixed that for you
Tithing is 10% period.
The only amount that tithing is, one tenth of something
Tithe is neither less nor more than 10%
Whenever you give more than 10%, it ceases to be tithe
1% - 9.99% and 10.001% -100% giving is not tithing

analize701:

That's like choosing between the Rock and a hard place.

I don't understand