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Re: Ducking Out Of Church by Nobody: 5:43pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
MrPresident1: Something funny? I referred to them as Jews. |
Re: Ducking Out Of Church by MuttleyLaff: 5:46pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
Sarassin:History is written by the conquerors, it is said, so the whiteman rewrote history bwahahaha |
Re: Ducking Out Of Church by daveP(m): 5:56pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
Book title:Evidence That Demands A Verdict Author:Josh Mcdowell Its reliability is strong. And il refer to it as i go by. |
Re: Ducking Out Of Church by daveP(m): 6:08pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
analize701:Hmm! These questions are a must for anyone who claims to be saved. There must be a story accompanying every Salvation that happened. Not the kind that one parents are christians, saved, then the kid(s) automatically become christian. That's professing, not confessing!! Nice one 1 Like |
Re: Ducking Out Of Church by MizMyColi(f): 6:24pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
daveP: Analize701 and DaveP, But I'm just a mention away nau... Is this not a kind of backbiting 1 Like |
Re: Ducking Out Of Church by daveP(m): 6:29pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
MizMyColi:nah, back/commentbiting where you'll see it? I'm stil gonna bring you in. Just stating some basics. I don taya to dey wait for your answers o. Keeping me waiting. Maybe i'l just continue. But will you get a pdf of that book i mentioned? |
Re: Ducking Out Of Church by MizMyColi(f): 6:48pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
daveP: I have not kept you waiting dear. I have posted a rather long reply since. I think we can work with that. If there's a nagging question on your mind you feel I have not answered, please bring me up to speed again. I expect us to have a civil conversation, not one that's rife with subtle backbiting, judgementalism, and "my religion is better than yours" shenanigans. I do not want my feelings getting hurt Dearie, you should also know that presently, I am not aligned to any known religion. Meaning I live by my own 'religious' ideologies and thoughts. I do not identify myself with any religious sect or belief. I usually stay away from conversations that put my belief in the spotlight, especially seeing as I am neither here nor there (which I have no qualms with btw). But for you, and for reasons known best to me, I will make an exception |
Re: Ducking Out Of Church by MizMyColi(f): 6:51pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
DaveP, okay, please send me a copy, I think it's easier, yeah? With the things I go through now, I do not assure you I will read o. But I will try to grasp the Author's POV and give you feedback. Okay by you? Edit: Don't worry, I have downloaded it now. 68 pages yeah? Let me skim. |
Re: Ducking Out Of Church by analize701: 7:03pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
MizMyColi:Epele o. Biko let it not be held against me. Backbiting is a sin. I'm sorry. I didn't see it as gossip as i just agreed with his point. |
Re: Ducking Out Of Church by daveP(m): 7:27pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
MizMyColi:ok, lets work by that then. unintentional if it seemed like spotlighting you. apologies. |
Re: Ducking Out Of Church by daveP(m): 7:30pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
MizMyColi:Gracias. il still get the full pdf for you when less occupied. |
Re: Ducking Out Of Church by MizMyColi(f): 8:08pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
daveP: Okay.. I just really feel that there's no need for that, y'know... I think that what the writer tries to prove is different from what I seek/sought. It's not about evidence(s). It's about experience(s). So let me ask you, Dave... Knowing what you know about Jesus' life and times, have you had a one one one encounter with him? If yes, what makes you sure that you dealt with him first hand? Mind sharing your experience(s)? |
Re: Ducking Out Of Church by analize701: 8:08pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
MizMyColi:Really, Being on this platform and observing folks who claim they have been strong Christians but are no more today, i get to notice that they never really knew what being Christian meant. Their utterances or reactions to issues makes one wonder, how did this person got to be a Christian but didn't know this? You for instance, once said that you were a prayer warrior, but was always scared of going too deep. You sounded like you were afraid of veering too deep so that you won't upset the opposing forces. Do you remember saying this? Well, i do. Being a prayer Warrior myself, i know the training we get in preparation to waging war against the opposing forces who wouldn't ordinarily allow their captives to go free. I know that i don't fear satan because i know his secrets. I know that satan can not touch me except i compromise. How then can a believer be scared to go too deep in prayer? Again, here, you said as a deep Christian for decades, you never knew Christ. You knew Papa, but not Christ. This got me wondering again. How is this possible, since Papa has made Jesus the Door, the only way to Him. How then did you get to Papa? Or, are we referring to the same papa? Abba, does not have respect for persons, it's either His way or you are out. If He says getting to Him must be through Jesus, then getting to Him must be through Jesus, No more, no less. No one can Bypass Yashua to get to YHWH. My dear, any entity which whispered to you that he was papa, without Jesus in the picture, pls know that he is not Abba. Abba's Words are yes and Amen. This is the point which ignited my curiosity and i borrowed a Bible to read what Jesus had to say about Himself by Himself. I discovered that all the Worlds religion have no problem accept the common noun 'God', but when it came to Jesus, but, when it came to Jesus, they all had opinions. They all have a problem with Jesus. They try by all means to down play the divinity of Jesus or replace him with a version in a certain Culture which satan has quickly enacted (haven got an insight that such a child will be born) or outrightly reject Him. With time i came to know that they accepted God because satan disguises as God to them, but if Jesus comes into things, he (satan) will be exposed, hence, he urges his followers to bypass Jesus. I think this is the reason YHWH put Jesus as the Door to Him. Anyone who rejects Jesus as the Door, is a suspect. Jesus says, the owner of the house enters the house through the door, but a thief enters through the Window. LoJ:This came from a Christian? I remember this very kind, gentle polite and amiable brother saying he was a young pastor, then i read this ^^^ from him, and i was like, what?? How can one read the Bible (even as a story book) and won't know what familiar spirits are and their activities in our generational bloodlines? Everyone i have encountered in this forum who claim they were Christians, turns out they were only in Church but no experience. But being in Church can not make one a Christian, just like sitting in a garage doesn't make one a Car. No one had ever experienced Jesus and left. Wonderfully!!!!!, Pls MuttleyLaff help me put the feeling into words if you can. I have never known a man who has been able to describe the feeling he gets when he encounters Christ. None. The feeling that takes away fear. It liberates. The feeling that keeps you calm and in peace when a knife if laid on your neck to cut. The feeling that makes you sing praises with a smile when you are so hungry but no money anywhere. I think it is true love. I love you Jesus. N/B. I stand with you and support you in whoever you have chosen to become, but pls, stop saying you were a Christian because when one observes your words they betray you. I hope i didn't sound rude? i apologize in advance. |
Re: Ducking Out Of Church by analize701: 8:12pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
Sarassin:Who snitched? This thread is going to take another shape entirely from now. |
Re: Ducking Out Of Church by analize701: 8:14pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
LotusFan:My shoes are on my feet ready to work out. lol 1 Like |
Re: Ducking Out Of Church by analize701: 8:16pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
Sarassin:Mia Caro, pls let it go, so that this thread won't die. 1 Like |
Re: Ducking Out Of Church by analize701: 8:18pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
daveP:Does it have a PDF version? Let me check. |
Re: Ducking Out Of Church by analize701: 8:21pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
daveP:Have down loaded it. Thanks. |
Re: Ducking Out Of Church by analize701: 8:22pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
daveP:Have down loaded it. Thanks. |
Re: Ducking Out Of Church by Blackfire(m): 8:24pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
analize701: hi love... good to see u again after a long time. we need to talk, am trying to set a condusive time and place. good to see you waxing strong. |
Re: Ducking Out Of Church by analize701: 8:28pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
Blackfire:Compliment of the season. Where have you been? I hope you are good? |
Re: Ducking Out Of Church by MizMyColi(f): 9:26pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
Hello Analize701, You for instance, once said that you were a prayer warrior, but was always scared of going too deep. You sounded like you were afraid of veering too deep so that you won't upset the opposing forces. I remember saying that I was scared of going too deep into the spiritual. I do not remember, and I really doubt that I ever said I was scared of going too deep into prayer-warrior-ing. It's good you said "I sounded like" - now, this implies two things: 1. It's a postulation. 2. You are wrong. The reason is best known to me, a topic for another day, if you may. I'd like to ask, how did the prophets of old have access to Papa? Through Jesus, yeah? It might well be the same for me, who knows... It might well be that the being I refer to as Papa is Jesus, OR not. All I have said is that I cannot tell that I have experienced Jesus in a way that I expected. No, Analice, I do not want to bypass Jesus... On the contrary, I would like to experience Jesus beyond what the bible teaches. I want to experience his person.... Of course, I do not wish to go deeper. If you are a person of discernment, then this should suffice. |
Re: Ducking Out Of Church by analize701: 9:45pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
MizMyColi:Good News Translation Hebrews 1:1-2 In the past God spoke to our ancestors many times and in many ways through the prophets, but in these last days he has spoken to us through his Son. He is the one through whom God created the universe, the one whom God has chosen to possess all things at the end. You mean you want to encounter Jesus in person like flesh and blood? He has always stood there calling but you were looking elsewhere. Good News Translation Revelation 3:20 Listen! I stand at the door and knock; if any hear my voice and open the door, I will come into their house and eat with them, and they will eat with me. |
Re: Ducking Out Of Church by MuttleyLaff: 9:49pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
MizMyColi: MizMyColi: MizMyColi: MizMyColi: MizMyColi: MizMyColi: |
Re: Ducking Out Of Church by MizMyColi(f): 9:52pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
analize701:In the verse you quoted, I fail to see where the speaker said we can only access the divine through Jesus. I do not think it is in your place to surmise that I look elsewhere. My experiences are uniquely mine. It is better to be quiet if you do not know a thing for sure. |
Re: Ducking Out Of Church by analize701: 9:53pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
MizMyColi:Come again |
Re: Ducking Out Of Church by MizMyColi(f): 9:56pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
Hello Muttleylaff, Is there a reason for quoting almost all my posts on this thread in one place? |
Re: Ducking Out Of Church by MizMyColi(f): 10:11pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
analize701: I have expanded my submission. |
Re: Ducking Out Of Church by analize701: 10:15pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
MizMyColi: Jesus said He is the only way to YHWH. He said no one can get to the father except by Him. You don't take His Words seriously do you? |
Re: Ducking Out Of Church by Blackfire(m): 10:20pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
analize701: am good just lost intrest in nairaland. got ban for weeks for saying nothing o. all my friends seems to be facing the same problem . and i got a little bit more busy. the topics on NL most times makes you want to puke. there is a moniker similar to my own now which aint mine. anyway happy new month and year in advance.... |
Re: Ducking Out Of Church by MuttleyLaff: 10:27pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
MizMyColi:Yes, there is milady At the very first one, you resonated so powerfully with me, that I wanted to jump in, but I restrained myself from getting involved, because, in the first place, I didnt want to gatecrash and secondly, there is that back-burner interaction post of ours, which once I get my groove back on it, I would now and then be referencing contents in each/all of the six quotes |
Re: Ducking Out Of Church by MizMyColi(f): 10:39pm On Dec 28, 2017 |
analize701: I do. Now, let's assume that Jesus truly said all that's credited to him... He says, no one comes to the father, except through him. It means that there are actually people who relate more with the father than they do Jesus. Just like the prophets of old like Isaiah, who related directly with the father, it means that they went through Jesus without even realizing that they had gone through him!! If they encountered him, they would have written about him, yeah? Oh, last I read... Jesus also mentioned that the Father and Him are one... If you have seen me, you have seen the father. Therefore, if I have seen the father, I have seen Jesus!! Alleluia!!! Now, it brings me back to my proposition from earlier, there are people who have had personal encounters with Jesus... I'm not talking of bible-inspired encounters. I'm talking about real, raw, face to face deals. I want to be one of those too. |
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