ubunja:

crystal.100%.
i ordered a hoe.i must not complain. understandable.

But the sense of the Post is not "save me from my wrong choice".the Post's focus is on wisdom to seperate the genuine good gals from the "im now a good gal after whorin" type of good gal.thats why OP speaks a lot about the pre-marriage stage of things.
OP is trying to save guys from the situation you describe of "i married a hoe plz save me".

THIS IS WHAT IS CALL COMPREHENSION!!! PEOPLE MOSTLY COME ONLINE NOT TO READ TO UNDERSTAND BUT TO WAGE WAR. HMM...........CHAUVINISM IS BLOCKING OUR FACULTY OF REASONING.

ubunja:

i will admit i didnt understand your post .make an effort to be simpler in your use of words.
i admit.
i failed to follow your points.

Ubunja my guy. What's up. I have two quick questions for you


1. Have you ever fallen in love for real and how did it pan out?

2. Have you ever liked a chick that made you wanted to make room to accommodate her?

ReinaFarine:


Please read my post again honey...
I didn't say I can pick any guy I want. I'm saying I'll not pick an obvious good for nothing street thug and expect the good 9-5 job decent husband and responsible father to my kid.

And haven't you heard? I am ugly. Ask iamj he'll tell you. So I'm getting the life style I dream of with my brain... Shocking... A woman has one.

But the kind of man that I want, loves me just as I am... I am here to laugh oh! Abi is this a dating site that I wasn't aware of?

. Love this.

tensazangetsu20:

And I ask again are you trying to justify your ignorance for the public to see or what?

Baba, these are the funny things you see on the net.

ReinaFarine:


Or you didn't hear? What Oprah Winfrey the fat black shrew makes in a minute, Megan Fox with all her beauty doesn't make a tenth of it in a whole movie.
All LinkedIn users have account on other social site

Okay then... I hear you sir!

If you're beautiful fame would find you....

Okay oh!
At least I have my ugliness to explain why I'm not famous yet. What's your excuse?

What movies have you been watching? Watched hairspray? Amy Farrah Fowler of big bang theory is not one of the hottest character there is.. If you're talented, fame will come looking... Or do you plan on boning Hawkins tomorrow?
Taylor Lautner with all his beauty, how is his acting career?

Talent sells more than a.pretty face. Else the beautiful sexy pornstars will have more roles than the plain Jane holly wood angels.

Nice.

Jupxter:



Ubunja my guy. What's up. I have two quick questions for you


1. Have you ever fallen in love for real and how did it pan out?

2. Have you ever liked a chick that made you wanted to make room to accommodate her?

LOL bro i was in love many times.from High School up to my adult life. it was good. the deepest most solid relationship was with the mother of my daughter who i found a virgin at 24 (or was it 23? i forget )it ended badly.and there were a lot of tears. amazingly it wasnt becoz of cheating. but after crying for the 100th time i realized that ever since i became a grown up the only people that kept making my tears flow were women.. and i wiped my last ever tears over a woman.then i put an icebox where my heart was. and to this day i dont regret it.
i have never made an effort to accomodate a chick since my baby mama.
but my current state of mind is the result of many things that happened to me in one period.and put me off romantic love and stopped me from ever trusting a woman ever again.
having been born in Zim i moved to South Africa without anything i learnt first hand how when u are at zero its only men who will reach out to you.i learnt the true meaning of Bros Over Hoes.and to this day i love my bros more than the hoes.i will drop any gal who tries to come between me and them.
trust in women evaporated when my brother died in prison after a false rape accusation by a woman who confessed she made up the story only after hearing my brother had died.
what finally killed my love for women was my intro into The Red Pill. and particularly an article i stumbled on the internet called The Secret Sex Society (google it).initially i thought it was about the Illuminati,only to discover a manual of being a manwhore.
i dont recommend love.but if u gona fall in love make sure u either get a virgin or a gal with the most minimal body count.you will save yourself many headaches.
never let any woman pull your strings by calling you "insecure".
sorry if its too much story.

ubunja:

LOL bro i was in love many times.from High School up to my adult life. it was good. the deepest most solid relationship was with the mother of my daughter who i found a virgin at 24 (or was it 23? i forget )it ended badly.and there were a lot of tears. amazingly it wasnt becoz of cheating. but after crying for the 100th time i realized that ever since i became a grown up the only people that kept making my tears flow were women.. and i wiped my last ever tears over a woman.then i put an icebox where my heart was. and to this day i dont regret it.
i have never made an effort to accomodate a chick since my baby mama.
but my current state of mind is the result of many things that happened to me in one period.and put me off romantic love and stopped me from ever trusting a woman ever again.
having been born in Zim i moved to South Africa without anything i learnt first hand how when u are at zero its only men who will reach out to you.i learnt the true meaning of Bros Over Hoes.and to this day i love my bros more than the hoes.i will drop any gal who tries to come between me and them.
trust in women evaporated when my brother died in prison after a false rape accusation by a woman who confessed she made up the story only after hearing my brother had died.
what finally killed my love for women was my intro into The Red Pill. and particularly an article i stumbled on the internet called The Secret Sex Society (google it).initially i thought it was about the Illuminati,only to discover a manual of being a manwhore.
i dont recommend love.but if u gona fall in love make sure u either get a virgin or a gal with the most minimal body count.you will save yourself many headaches.
never let any woman pull your strings by calling you "insecure".
sorry if its too much story.

Wow @ i put an icebox where my heart was


Wow @ when u are at zero its only men who will reach out to you


Gangster @ trust in women evaporated when my brother died in prison after a false rape accusation by a woman who confessed she made up the story only after hearing my brother had died.


Bro, it's never too much story when you communicate. I appreciate your insights and everything you shared. I'm learning to shape my future, and i'll use some of the lessons you've shared so far...I rellay appreciate your comments and read them even when i don't respond...

ubunja:

LOL bro i was in love many times.from High School up to my adult life. it was good. the deepest most solid relationship was with the mother of my daughter who i found a virgin at 24 (or was it 23? i forget )it ended badly.and there were a lot of tears. amazingly it wasnt becoz of cheating. but after crying for the 100th time i realized that ever since i became a grown up the only people that kept making my tears flow were women.. and i wiped my last ever tears over a woman.then i put an icebox where my heart was. and to this day i dont regret it.
i have never made an effort to accomodate a chick since my baby mama.
but my current state of mind is the result of many things that happened to me in one period.and put me off romantic love and stopped me from ever trusting a woman ever again.
having been born in Zim i moved to South Africa without anything i learnt first hand how when u are at zero its only men who will reach out to you.i learnt the true meaning of Bros Over Hoes.and to this day i love my bros more than the hoes.i will drop any gal who tries to come between me and them.
trust in women evaporated when my brother died in prison after a false rape accusation by a woman who confessed she made up the story only after hearing my brother had died.
what finally killed my love for women was my intro into The Red Pill. and particularly an article i stumbled on the internet called The Secret Sex Society (google it).initially i thought it was about the Illuminati,only to discover a manual of being a manwhore.
i dont recommend love.but if u gona fall in love make sure u either get a virgin or a gal with the most minimal body count.you will save yourself many headaches.
never let any woman pull your strings by calling you "insecure".
sorry if its too much story.

Oga, you have seen things in this life oooo. Chaii.

Jupxter:





Wow @ i put an icebox where my heart was


Wow @ when u are at zero its only men who will reach out to you


Gangster @ trust in women evaporated when my brother died in prison after a false rape accusation by a woman who confessed she made up the story only after hearing my brother had died.


Bro, it's never too much story when you communicate. I appreciate your insights and everything you shared. I'm learning to shape my future, and i'll use some of the lessons you've shared so far...I rellay appreciate your comments and read them even when i don't respond...

homies over hoes forever.

ubunja:

homies over hoes forever.

Ubunja, r u sure you have not become introverted from the bitter experiences with ladies ...?

Jupxter:


Ubunja, r u sure you have not become introverted from the bitter experiences with ladies ...?

and how would that be my fault?
i dont see anyone apologizing for making me what i am.
why should i apologoze for what i have been made into?

ubunja:

and how would that be my fault?
i dont see anyone apologizing for making me what i am.
why should i apologoze for what i have been made into?

Hmm, it implies you're reactionary and not what you choose to do...hence you're controlled by imperfections of your past !

Jupxter:



Hmm, it implies you're reactionary and not what you choose to do...hence you're controlled by imperfections of your past !

even God is reactionary. thats why God sent Jesus to die for our sins after we sinned. not before.

ubunja:

even God is reactionary. thats why God sent Jesus to die for our sins after we sinned. not before.

Lol. Jesus wasn't the reactionary response from the fall of man. God foreknew the fall and Jesus was made ready before the fall,which is why He was beside Him learning even during and before creation

Thanks OP for this write up.
All points are valid here, from my deep discussions &observations on a close Slut especially on the birth control ish, infact all characteristics describe this single-mother Slut, aswear

Thank God this &many more have really opened my eyes.

When i'm ready i'll look, scrutinize, investigate wella b4 I leap. Never will I make a mistake on this, Never.
OP, I thank you once again, more wisdom.

Jupxter:




Lol. Jesus wasn't the reactionary response from the fall of man. God foreknew the fall and Jesus was made ready before the fall,which is why He was beside Him learning even during and before creation

God foreknew and Jesus was made ready. isnt it still reactionary? coz without the foreknowing there wasnt going to be Jesus made ready.
you cant prepare for an emergency u know nothing about. and once u know and prepare THATS the reaction TO THE KNOWLEDGE.

ubunja:

God foreknew and Jesus was made ready. isnt it still reactionary? coz without the foreknowing there wasnt going to be Jesus made ready.
you cant prepare for an emergency u know nothing about. and once u know and prepare THATS the reaction TO THE KNOWLEDGE.

Okay, i caught you. God didn't foreknow the outcome of Adam's decision. It was hinged on and around it. God is never reactionary, but constsantly makes decision to keep things in line. Hence,it's smart decision making and not reactionary bra

Jupxter:



Okay, i caught you. God didn't foreknow the outcome of Adam's decision. It was hinged on and around it. God is never reactionary, but constsantly makes decision to keep things in line. Hence,it's smart decision making and not reactionary bra

dont be offended coz smart people preach the gospel of proactiveness.and think that classing God as reactionary makes Him inferor. NO. it only shows that He is never caught unawares.
thats why we say The Lord Shall Provide. coz u can only provide after there is a need. and a Saviour is only needed when there are people who need to be Saved.thats all reactionary.

ubunja:

dont be offended coz smart people preach the gospel of proactiveness.and think that classing God as reactionary makes Him inferor. NO. it only shows that He is never caught unawares.
thats why we say The Lord Shall Provide. coz u can only provide after there is a need. and a Saviour is only needed when there are people who need to be Saved.thats all reactionary.

That's a different word, on a different dimension, not reactionary, it needs a more suitable word. Like Almighty, All-able...Ability to do beyond and without limits

Jupxter:



That's a different word, on a different dimension, not reactionary, it needs a more suitable word. Like Almighty, All-able...Ability to do beyond and without limits

thats why i said dont be offended. coz i know "reactionary" is a dirty word to smart people. but you need to understand that God waits for things to happen then acts accordingly. if God was proactive He would not have created Lucifer knowing he was going to fall and cause so much suffering. yet God created Lucifer anyways and gave him a chance to show his true character and only after that He will annihilate him.
if God was proactive me and you as sinners would never had been born. thats why He even waits till u die to judge u.

ubunja:

thats why i said dont be offended. coz i know "reactionary" is a dirty word to smart people. but you need to understand that God waits for things to happen then acts accordingly. if God was proactive He would not have created Lucifer knowing he was going to fall and cause so much suffering. yet God created Lucifer anyways and gave him a chance to show his true character and only after that He will annihilate him.
if God was proactive me and you as sinners would never had been born. thats why He even waits till u die to judge u.

Thats not reactionary @ thats why He even waits till u die to judge u..It's incidental


I take no offense brov, i'm enjoying the discussion

I feel i'll be married in 18months. Any private words of advice for your brov? I'm looking at both transactional and love-kind of relationships

Jupxter:


Thats not reactionary @ thats why He even waits till u die to judge u..It's incidental


I take no offense brov, i'm enjoying the discussion

I feel i'll be married in 18months. Any private words of advice for your brov? I'm looking at both transactional and love-kind of relationships

For a wife, you know the 4 rules:
1.never marry a gal fatter than your mama
2.never marry a gal less prettier than your young sister
3.never marry a gal with more kids than you.if you dont have a kid you have no business with single mothers
4.never marry a gal darker in complexion than you.

bonus: get the youngest gal you can get legally and that society will accept.

transactionally; will be more complicated coz it will mean you have to make a list of what u expect to gain from a gal and find a gal willing to bring that list to life.but never allow a gal to come empty - handed bearing only "love". she must contribute.bring something to the table.not just looks and pvssy.

ubunja:

For a wife, you know the 4 rules:
1.never marry a gal fatter than your mama
2.never marry a gal less prettier than your young sister
3.never marry a gal with more kids than you.if you dont have a kid you have no business with single mothers
4.never marry a gal darker in complexion than you.

bonus: get the youngest gal you can get legally and that society will accept.

transactionally; will be more complicated coz it will mean you have to make a list of what u expect to gain from a gal and find a gal willing to bring that list to life.but never allow a gal to come empty - handed bearing only "love". she must contribute.bring something to the table.not just looks and pvssy.

Lol Funny you !

Jupxter:




Lol Funny you !

everytime i tell people those 4 points they laugh. but they will elevate your class of chicks.

ubunja:

everytime i tell people those 4 points they laugh. but they will elevate your class of chicks.

Ubunja, you're something. I'm glad to meet someone from Zimbabwe you're smart. You should be contesting for presidency, your country needs a smart brother like you and not Mugabe or those old minds in ZanoPF

ubunja:

men do it YES
but with men "what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas"
men dont bring home saggy boobs, borehole pvssy and fatherless kids after a season of whorin.
we come out of it still the same.plus a little more experienced sexually.

thats the Gazillion Dollar point women refuse to internalize.

hmmmmm.. I smell sense in this post. You do well my brother.

ReinaFarine:


Please read my post again honey...
I didn't say I can pick any guy I want. I'm saying I'll not pick an obvious good for nothing street thug and expect the good 9-5 job decent husband and responsible father to my kid.

And haven't you heard? I am ugly. Ask iamj he'll tell you. But the kind of man that I want, loves me just as I am... I am here to laugh oh! Abi is this a dating site that I wasn't aware of?

hahahaha.. This boy iamj is so dreadful. Chai.. No dey send anyone my sister. Abi you never hear p - square song 'Nobody ugly'? You are amazing just the way you are. That boy iamj is just tryna make life unbearable for people. No dey mind jare and you have right to whatever you so dream of, whosoever you so dream to have.

In this case, am sitting on the fence ooo....as we get spoilt girls so we have spoilt guys too...we go soon create operation free our nairaland girls now...security !!! some guy dey bokoharam the ladies for here oo....we know say guys don win...ejo e shiwonle

Mhissgaga:


I am not pained

Men that are usually too careful are the ones that fall into the hands of slutty women because they are always looking for signs here and there

OP your write up is trash

You can find all the points you listed in men too or you think it's only women that have loose sexual morals

I agree with u on that but African countries especially naija will crucify a lady with rough sexual life. anyways, that's d country we live in and gat to be careful as a lady not to have a nasty sexual life before marriage.

Mhissgaga:


I am not pained

Men that are usually too careful are the ones that fall into the hands of slutty women because they are always looking for signs here and there

OP your write up is trash

You can find all the points you listed in men too or you think it's only women that have loose sexual morals

Mhissgaga:


I am not pained

Men that are usually too careful are the ones that fall into the hands of slutty women because they are always looking for signs here and there

OP your write up is trash

You can find all the points you listed in men too or you think it's only women that have loose sexual morals

I agree with u on that but African countries especially naija will crucify a lady with rough sexual life. anyways, that's d country we live in and gat to be careful as a lady not to have a nasty sexual life before marriage.

chineji:
Summary:

Having been married to a former carousel rider in my Blue Pill beta days, I thought I'd share some insight on how to identify former carousellers looking for a provider for those wanting an LTR. Considerations will also be made for men already in relationships with such women. This is a complementary essay to Rollo's Saving the Best.

 

Body:

A common scenario the Blue Pill beta male faces (assuming he's at least average-looking and has a stable career), is he meets a 30-something beauty who gives him more attention than other women. She's very open to him, initiates often, and she's so easy to date he doesn't have to put forth much effort for her to respond positively. Because he lacks a sex life and social interaction with women in general, meeting her is like finding an oasis in the desert.

But he's unaware that the most common sexual strategyof the attractive woman is to ride a carousel of cocks in the prime of her youth, and then secure a beta providersuch as himself when she's post-wall.

 

Signs that a woman might be a former carousel rider looking for a provider:

She's a 7 or higher in looks.

She's around 30 years of age or older.

She shows signs of slutty behavior. The major ones are she has visible tattoos, dyed hair and unusual piercings; she's on birth control; she likes talking about sex and reacts positively to sexual innuendos; she has daddy issues; she has the"thousand cock stare".

She attended college.

She's a single mom with some of the other traits listed here.

She asks "Where have all the good men gone?". She says she's "tired of the games", or she's "tired of jerks and players trying to get into her pants", and that she wants a "mature man" for a serious relationship.

She's a try-hard. She actively pursues you, calling you often, wanting to be with you, laughing at your jokes that aren't that funny. If she knows where you live, she comes by unannounced if she hasn't seen or heard from you in a few days. And keenly aware as a prostitute that men love sex, she makes herself easy to get into bed. The key here is that she puts forth most of the effort, with you doing little in return. Be sure to verify other carousel signs to distinguish between a woman who's genuinely attracted to you, and a woman who just wants provision.

She feels the need to confess her sexual history to you. Sometimes the confession is out of the blue, sort of like "I need to get something off my chest" to give her plausible deniability in case you hold it against her in the future (She confessed her slutty behavior and you stayed anyway). Other times it's her need to reminisce the good old days. But a good way to get her to open up about her past is to talk about your sexual past as if it was no big deal (public places you've had sex, kinky things you've done, how fun it was, etc.). If she feels you won't judge her, former carousel riders light up at the opportunity to talk about who and what they've done. Now, she generally won't reveal her sexual history while you're dating and she's attempting to marry you, but she'll be more open about it after marriage when she has legal access to your resources. Just don't fall for the"I've only known one man who was my boyfriend"line.

She will guilt-trip you into marriage within months of the relationship. When you first start dating and tell her upfront that you're not interested in marriage, she will be okay with the idea initially. But after some time she'll say things like "My parents don't like the idea of us being together for so long unmarried," or "It's against my religion/personal beliefs for us to have sex unmarried," or "I feel like I'm being used and I don't want to play games, I want someone who's serious", or "My biological clock is ticking", or "Don't you love me?"

She doesn't enjoy the role of homemaker. She doesn't like to cook or clean, and isn't very good at it. She lived such a hedonistic lifestyle in her prime with friendzoned betas at her beck and call, that being of service to someone other than herself is unappealing. She'd rather lay around watching TV all day.

She's closed off in the bedroom. When you first start dating she's easy to have sex with and many times she'll initiate (to get you hooked), but aftermarriage she shuts down. She's sexually prudish and not as enthusiastic in bed as she once was, and sex feels more like a chore and stress-reliever than something fun.

 

Signs that a man is being used mostly for his resources by a former carouseller (I've been guilty of many of these):

His behavior is beta. He's always showering her with attention, doing whatever she wants on a whim, being servile and supplicating, but she thinks it's "romantic" and appears appreciative, at least prior to marriage. To my bias, beta behavior is the #1 cause for ending up with a selfish, uncooperative, unsubmissive woman, and what helps makes her manipulation of him easier.

He's physically unattractive, but she knows he has resources. He's short, skinny, fat, unmuscular, etc. but he makes a good living, especially in the STEM fields. Her asking "So what do you do for a living?" is her way of determining if he's someone capable of providing for her. Of course, having good looks and a good job only raises his value, but if he's not all that good-looking and she's stillinterested, it's for his resources.

He's early to mid-20s. Though he prefers younger women (who aren't interested in dating him), he rationalizes dating an older woman by assuming she's mature and experienced and therefore should play her role in the relationship much more efficiently than someone younger. But I also think older, desperate women target younger men because they're generally more naive about how women operate and therefore easier to seduce and manipulate than older men (though older men aren't exempt of course).

He's Captain Save-A-Ho. He's with her primarily because of some "problem" he thinks she needs rescuing from. He wants to see himself as the hero who "saves" her from loneliness, or poor living conditions, or her fatherless child. He thinks his noble act will make her more appreciative and committed to him, forgetting the corollaries inBriffault's Law.

He only has vanilla sex. In keeping with his Nice Guy personality, when the beta male has sex with a woman, he doesn't Bleep her with any sense of dominance, he "makes love" to her. Maybe such a strategy is appropriate if she recently had a traumatic experience such as losing a loved one. But if the porn industry and 50 Shades of Grey hysteria is any indication, women much preferdominance and rough sex to love-making. This is why the Red Pill emphasizes lifting and alpha behavior. Because once a woman has been bleeped by enough cocks, especially good ones, her ability to stay with one man long term isdiminished because she judges her current partner by her carousel years. Good cock is like an addictive drug to women, and if her current partner is not giving her the feels that Chad did, she will cheat or leave.

There's no genuine emotional connection between the two, and she doesn't care. She's not genuinely happy to see him when he comes home from work, and she's not particularly upbeat (not that she's necessarily moody, just indifferenttowards him). They don't have shared interests or social interplay such as cracking witty jokes with each other on the fly, or some light-hearted horseplay. The relationship feels so effortful that they need a lot of outside influences (dining out, going to a movie, and other 'outings') to compensate for a boring relationship as opposed to using those things to compliment an already good thing. But she doesn't care about bonding with him because she never wanted anything more from him than his resources. Whereas the beta male is stimulated by being subservient to her, her stimulation comes from eating, sleeping, shopping, and cheating.

He's good father-figure/emotional support. "Resources" is not limited to money, food or shelter. Many single-moms want a father-figure for their children. For post-wall women, the provision they look for in a beta male is the same provision they enjoyed from the men they friendzoned: attention and validation; from a male servant around the house who flatters her like a princess and serves as her emotional tampon. Being post-wall and no longer attractive to Chad, she wants someone to tell her she's still desirable. The servile nature of the beta-male makes him qualified to fulfill these roles.

He's desperate for a woman. Loneliness and a lack of women willing to date him has been so prevalent in his life, that when a pretty women shows him some attention, he's willing to forego the carousel signs just so he can have some companionship. This makes her efforts to exploit him that much easier.

 

The takeaway from this is that being a beta-provider is like being friendzoned with benefits. He provides her with resources/emotional support and she occasionally gives him duty-sex in return. But the sex isn't fulfilling for her as it was on the carousel because unless he's decent looking and dominant in the bedroom, she's not sexuallyattracted to him. Her settling for a beta male means she sees him as a servant rather than a lover or partner.

 

Denial:

I realize this is a sensitive topic for men already in LTRs because it puts a spotlight on their current partner, and if perchance several of the carousel signs checks out for her, they may go through some measure of denial. I want to address this denial now. Keep in mind this is coming from someone who married and provided for a former carousel rider:

There is a segment of men in the manosphere who give carousel riders the benefit of the doubt by believing that even though she rode the carousel, she simply made a mistake in her sexual behavior that she wasn't aware of until she approached the Wall. That at some point she"came to her senses" and realized the jerks and players she was fucking weren't good relationship material, that she was never empowered by giving herself away for free, and now her seeking a "good man" is evidence of her remorse and repentance.

But assuming she started riding the carousel at say, 18, isn't it odd that it took her roughly 10 years to come to this realization, which just so happened to coincide afterall the jerks and players no longer wanted her? But let us recall the young carouseller's remark in Michael's storywhen he confronted her about her slutty behavior:

“Michael let me tell you something: not only am I going to have my cake eat it and eat it too. I’m going to have it with ice cream and sprinkles”

A woman's carousel years has nothing to do with finding a "good man" for long-term commitment and everythingto do with hedonism, which feminists have been pushing for decades. And the most telling evidence of this behavior is her lamenting "Where have all the good men gone?". To ask about these men after she's post-wall suggests they were available in her prime, but she wasn't interested in them at the time. She was far more interested in riding the carousel.

The man who holds the "good girl who made a mistake" perspective is usually in an LTR and wants to believe that the woman he's with is a Good Girl Gina who has a low N-count and loves him for his personality. In the face of Red Pill awareness of the cock carousel (examples hereand here), he doesn't want to consider that his partner might have been a deliberate carousel rider who plannedher sexual and provider strategy from the start, because it would make him the recipient of used-up goods. YaReally offers a similar perspective.

The fact they've been rejecting decent men who gave a damn about them for jerks and players since high school shows these women know exactly what they're doing, and they're even encouraged by feminists.

 

Anger:

Once the beta-male realizes the woman he's providing for had a slutty past, he usually goes through some measure of anger. He's disillusioned that she isn't the "good girl" he expected. And considering his friendzoned days with her former desirability, he realizes that he's married to the very woman who would have friendzoned or rejected him in her prime, making him a living example that "Nice Guys finish last."

And for many men there's the additional element of jealousy: It's not so much that she was promiscuous that frustrates him, but that he couldn't enjoy that sort of sex life for himself. For years he's tried to unlock the secret to getting laid like a playboy to no avail. But then comes along his LTR who tells him tales of her wonderful adventures at DisneyCocks Theme Park, the park to which he was denied employment. From his perspective, her reminiscing about her abundant sex life is like saying "Ha ha, look at all the fun I had that you never could!". And then for her hold back in the bedroom is a slap to the face; she was slutty for the men she hooked up with, but not for the man who provides for her.

 

Conclusion:

If for much of your adult life you could barely get women to look in your direction, and all of a sudden this attractive 30-something is giving you lots of attention, putting forth the effort to be with you, and giving up the pussy without you doing much for her in return, it's a sign she wants you to be her provider, not because she thinks you're hot or loves your personality.

The purpose of the carousel signs is to be aware that women who rode the carousel generally don't make good long-term partners because they're self-serving, disrespectful, unappreciative, they aren't good homemakers, and they aren't committed. Just like her relationships with friendzoned men, she will come in wanting the LTR to be all about her like a pampered baby.

For men already in LTRs with older attractive women, one of the greatest tests of Red Pill maturity is honestlyacknowledging that one's wife or girlfriend was likely aslut in her prime. I understand many men new to this information have children and financial constraints preventing them from making an easy exit from the relationship if her sexual history is a deal breaker. But I suggest at least assessing her current behavior to ensure she at least contributes to the relationship in ways that serve you, while also resolving any counter-productive behaviors in yourself that makes her uncooperative in the relationship, and unenthusiastic in the bedroom (see here and here).

Because the benefit of acknowledging her slutty past is it minimizes attachment and dependency on your perceived "goodness" of her for your happiness. This detachment makes it easier spot deception and manipulation, it reduces beta behavior, and it's easier to not put up with her bullshit and ultimately work towards getting what you want from the relationship because you no longer think the world of her.

Visible tattoos, dyed hair and piercings doesn't make a girl a slut. Wake up bro. This is the 21st century... The jet age. Only that line disqualified your very long write up for me. Don't be a village boy.

ubunja:


get the youngest gal you can get legally and that society will accept.

One of the reason's western men are turning to asian and slavic women.

Nigerian men will probably go places like tunisia, eriteria, ethiopia, somalia for wives.

Northerners, have been going to egypt and libya for decades