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Re: Was Apostle Suleman Correct On Buhari's Bereavement Or Coincidence? by geoworldedu: 5:02pm On Dec 29, 2017 |
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Re: Was Apostle Suleman Correct On Buhari's Bereavement Or Coincidence? by Johncuppa(m): 5:04pm On Dec 29, 2017 |
Edu3Again:You people should let us hear Word. Stop giving Christianity what it is not. Our God is a loving God and is not in charge of evil happening to anyone. We have lost many souls this year, from suicide to bomb blast, sickness and disease, accidents and so on. Are those people related to Buhari or suffered the sin of their fathers? You said Buhari will not win election, he did. You said he won't preside over Nigeria, he's presiding You said he won't return back from medical trip, he did You said dollar will not be stabilised, it did. Now, you are talking of Yussuf Buhari with biblical reference. If God is dealing with Buhari because of his wickedness, what is God doing to Shekau or has Buhari shed more blood than Shekau? God is love and His loving kindness is beyond measure. You can continue with your political or ethnic apathy, but saying what God did not tell you or show you or in accordance to his will is a no no. |
Re: Was Apostle Suleman Correct On Buhari's Bereavement Or Coincidence? by Ladyhippolyta88(f): 6:36pm On Dec 29, 2017 |
It is just a coincidence,It is just predictions If you watch the news you can predict what will happen. |
Re: Was Apostle Suleman Correct On Buhari's Bereavement Or Coincidence? by donnie(m): 7:14pm On Dec 29, 2017 |
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Re: Was Apostle Suleman Correct On Buhari's Bereavement Or Coincidence? by BluntBoy(m): 7:40pm On Dec 29, 2017 |
BlessMySoul: Bro, when a man gives 50 prophesies and only about 3 seemed to come to pass, that should tell you that the man was only just lucky with the 3 so-called prophesies that came to pass. If only 3 out of say 50 prophesies came to pass, what excuse would you give for the 47 that failed ![]() That should tell you that these so-called prophets are merely making predictions and not prophesies. |
Re: Was Apostle Suleman Correct On Buhari's Bereavement Or Coincidence? by Gift006(f): 9:00am On Dec 30, 2017 |
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Re: Was Apostle Suleman Correct On Buhari's Bereavement Or Coincidence? by Nobody: 11:52am On Dec 30, 2017 |
Re: Was Apostle Suleman Correct On Buhari's Bereavement Or Coincidence? by Nobody: 12:05pm On Dec 30, 2017 |
Gift006: . Johncuppa: "" God is a loving God and is not in charge of evil happening to anyone"" Why did the luving Christian God Create an evil creature called Satan, Devil, Lucifer etc The devil right there in heaven became hateful, anger, jealous n rebellious and even fought a civil war in heaven against God. First of fall, The Bible God ordered the mass murders of supreme proportions n millions died as a result. So stop defending ur Gods killings. The Christian God created the world n everything in it, It means everything good n everything bad was created by him. |
Re: Was Apostle Suleman Correct On Buhari's Bereavement Or Coincidence? by petra1(m): 6:27pm On Dec 30, 2017 |
BluntBoy: Wrong! Prophevies are not absolute. Many times they call the prophet and he tells them what to do to avert a predicted disaster. He said Buhari would be bereaved ,people didn't know it was Buhari son , they thought Buhari would die. If they had asked . A prayer would have averted the bike accident the president son had |
Re: Was Apostle Suleman Correct On Buhari's Bereavement Or Coincidence? by BluntBoy(m): 9:34pm On Dec 30, 2017 |
petra1: Do you study your Bible at all? Bro, prophesies are not warnings that you can pray against. Prophesies are meant to be fulfilled, no matter how long it takes. That is one sure way to know a true prophet from a false one. If the prophet speaks in the LORD's name but his prediction does not happen or come true, you will know that the LORD did not give that message. That prophet has spoken without my authority and need not be feared. (Deuteronomy 18:22) |
Re: Was Apostle Suleman Correct On Buhari's Bereavement Or Coincidence? by petra1(m): 9:47pm On Dec 30, 2017 |
BluntBoy: Wrong! HEZEKIAH Isaiah told hezekiah he would die in his sickness but it didn't happen . 2 Kings 20:1 In those days was Hezekiah sick unto death. And the prophet Isaiah the son of Amoz came to him, and said unto him, Thus saith the Lord, Set thine house in order; for thou shalt die, and not live. But when prayers were offered .God changed the situation 2 Kings 20:5 Turn again, and tell Hezekiah the captain of my people, Thus saith the Lord, the God of David thy father, I have heard thy prayer, I have seen thy tears: behold, I will heal thee: on the third day thou shalt go up unto the house of the Lord Why was Jonah angry at God . He prophesied as God told him that a city will perish , but it didn't happen Because the man prayed and God spared him .. JOHAH AND NINEVEH Jonah 3:4 And Jonah began to enter into the city a day's journey, and he cried, and said, Yet forty days, and Nineveh shall be overthrown. Did Nineveh get overthrown ? Jonah 3:10 - 4:1 And God saw their works, that they turned from their evil way; and God repented of the evil, that he had said that he would do unto them; and he did it not. But it displeased Jonah exceedingly, and he was very angry. Some prophecy can be changed by intercession or prayer or desperate act of the people . KING OF MOAB Elisha prophesied isreal will defeat Moab . 2 Kings 3:18 And this is but a light thing in the sight of the Lord: he will deliver the Moabites also into your hand. But it didn't happen .isreal lost the battle . Because the King offered his son as sacrifice. |
Re: Was Apostle Suleman Correct On Buhari's Bereavement Or Coincidence? by BluntBoy(m): 10:43pm On Dec 30, 2017 |
petra1: But because by doing this you have shown utter contempt for the LORD, the son born to you will die." After Nathan had gone home, the LORD struck the child that Uriah's wife had borne to David, and he became ill. David pleaded with God for the child. He fasted and spent the nights lying in sackcloth on the ground. (2 Samuel 12:14-16) Well, the child died. Remember that David was a man after God's heart. About the prophesies of Jonah, it is not as straightforward as you make it. For every seemingly failed Biblical prophesies, there are more prophesies that came to pass against all odds from the prophesies against Eli to that against King Saul. I repeat, prophesies are meant to be fulfilled. |
Re: Was Apostle Suleman Correct On Buhari's Bereavement Or Coincidence? by petra1(m): 10:51pm On Dec 30, 2017 |
BluntBoy: You didn't respond to the verses i quoted. were they fulfilled |
Re: Was Apostle Suleman Correct On Buhari's Bereavement Or Coincidence? by Vivere: 12:06am On Dec 31, 2017 |
I am more interested in No. 39. 39. I see presidents being removed in Africa, I see presidents being installed. Now, I don't know much about prophecies, but could these events be a mere coincidence? I don't know. ![]() In January 2017, Gambia's embattled dictator Yahaya Jammeh ended his 22-year grip on power after agreeing to sign a last-minute deal to step down. This was after West Africa's regional bloc ECOWAS' military forces led by Nigerian troops, marched into the country. Jammeh read the handwriting on the wall, and fled. In August 2017, Jose Eduardo dos Santos stepped down from power in Angola, after ruling for 38 years. His seat was taken over by Joao Lourenco, his former defence minister. In November 2017, Robert Mugabe was forced out of office where he held sway as president of Zimbabwe, after a 37-year reign, and replaced by Emmerson Mnangagwa. And in December 2017, former footballer and Ballon d'Or winner, George Weah, was announced as the President-elect of Liberia, in West Africa to succeed Ellen Johnson Sirleaf. |
Re: Was Apostle Suleman Correct On Buhari's Bereavement Or Coincidence? by BluntBoy(m): 12:16am On Dec 31, 2017 |
petra1: Yes, they were fulfilled. Hopefully, we will continue this topic today (Sunday). I was drained yesterday and had no strength to type. |
Re: Was Apostle Suleman Correct On Buhari's Bereavement Or Coincidence? by petra1(m): 7:48am On Dec 31, 2017 |
BluntBoy: So hezekiah life wasn't extended. He didn't recover from his sickness . I am waiting 1 Like |
Re: Was Apostle Suleman Correct On Buhari's Bereavement Or Coincidence? by BluntBoy(m): 8:49am On Dec 31, 2017 |
petra1: Jonah's prophesy did not change. God's intention was known to Jonah. The real prophesy was to transform Nineveh. So he complained to the LORD about it: "Didn't I say before I left home that you would do this, LORD? That is why I ran away to Tarshish! I knew that you are a merciful and compassionate God, slow to get angry and filled with unfailing love. You are eager to turn back from destroying people. (Jonah 4:2) Isaiah's prophesy did not change. The first prophesy was in harmony with the eventual prophesy. God re-sent Isaiah to Hezekiah. It was not Hezekiah that went to meet Isaiah. The intended prophesy was to elongate Hezekiah's life. As for the prophesy concerning the Moabites. It was fulfilled. The Moabites were trounced by the three kings in fulfillment of the prophesy. There was nowhere in the Bible where it was written that the kings suffered death in the hands of the Moabites. Lastly, God's word does not change. And should there be instances where it appears that a prophesy changed, one must not use them as excuses to justify the acts of false prophets like Suleman. Instead, one should endeavor to draw a parallel or to discover a harmony between the supposedly failed prophesies and God's given way of identifying true and false prophets (Check: Deutoronomy 18:20-22) In Jonah's case, he already knew that the prophesy God was giving him would fail. It was not really a literal prophesy and Jonah was on about his credibility as a true prophet. That was why he was angry. In Isaiah's case, God re-sent him to Hezekiah. What parallel can you draw between these prophesies and the false prophesies of Suleman and TB Joshua? Obviously non. When asked why his election prophesies failed, Suleman claimed that people involved called and he gave them prayer points. Where is the parallel between this and the prophesies of Jonah and Isaiah? Jonah knew the real prophesy and ran away to avoid bearing a supposedly failed one. If you want to know, I can give you some reasons why Suleman, Adeboye, Oyedepo and many other self-acclaimed Nigerian prophets are false prophets. |
Re: Was Apostle Suleman Correct On Buhari's Bereavement Or Coincidence? by petra1(m): 12:55pm On Dec 31, 2017 |
BluntBoy: i thought it does not fail according to you. you can excuse theirs |
Re: Was Apostle Suleman Correct On Buhari's Bereavement Or Coincidence? by BluntBoy(m): 1:30pm On Dec 31, 2017 |
petra1: I didn't. It is in the Bible. If the prophet speaks in the LORD's name but his prediction does not happen or come true, you will know that the LORD did not give that message. That prophet has spoken without my authority and need not be feared. (Deuteronomy 18:22) |
Re: Was Apostle Suleman Correct On Buhari's Bereavement Or Coincidence? by petra1(m): 1:49pm On Dec 31, 2017 |
BluntBoy: You're on a fence of double standard. I've told you ,prophecy is not absolute . there is human part to prophecy . the fulfilment . the verses i gave to you shows that there are things to do to fastract on hinder prophecy. Did God not prophesy on isreal did they believe? paul told timothy to meditate on the prophecy he received so that his result will manifest. there is a man part. |
Re: Was Apostle Suleman Correct On Buhari's Bereavement Or Coincidence? by petra1(m): 1:52pm On Dec 31, 2017 |
BluntBoy: the parallel is simple . prophecies are not absolute. man has a part to bring about changes. |
Re: Was Apostle Suleman Correct On Buhari's Bereavement Or Coincidence? by petra1(m): 1:54pm On Dec 31, 2017 |
there are prophecies of judgement and there are prophecies of blessing. each one is handled differently. |
Re: Was Apostle Suleman Correct On Buhari's Bereavement Or Coincidence? by BluntBoy(m): 2:10pm On Dec 31, 2017 |
petra1: You are the one calling God a liar, if not, you will take to pieces this verse: If the prophet speaks in the LORD's name but his prediction does not happen or come true, you will know that the LORD did not give that message. That prophet has spoken without my authority and need not be feared. (Deuteronomy 18:22) That is enough to tell you that prophesies are absolute and when they seem to fail, they only fail from a human perspective. |
Re: Was Apostle Suleman Correct On Buhari's Bereavement Or Coincidence? by BluntBoy(m): 2:18pm On Dec 31, 2017 |
petra1: If prophesies are not absolute, then, explain why David's child died in spite of his fasting and praying? |
Re: Was Apostle Suleman Correct On Buhari's Bereavement Or Coincidence? by petra1(m): 2:37pm On Dec 31, 2017 |
BluntBoy: He ought to have asked the prophet what to do . He would have received guidance . Look at these two verses below Luke 11:10 For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened. James 4:3 Ye ask, and receive not, because ye ask amiss, that ye may consume it upon your lusts. The two verses may sound contradictory . What will happen if one person argue from one scripture against the other man who holds the other scripture . When it come to spiritual matters we should not be quick to judge but rather ask question . Isreal lost the battle with Moab despite prophecy . It became a mockery against isreal . God told Moses he would bring the people out of Egypt into the land of promise. But it didn't come to pass . Moses didn't bring them into the promise land . |
Re: Was Apostle Suleman Correct On Buhari's Bereavement Or Coincidence? by petra1(m): 2:41pm On Dec 31, 2017 |
BluntBoy: I agree that there are prophecies that may not be changed . Also There are prophecies that may be influenced . If you believe a prophecy didn't get fulfilled let the prophet himself explain because you're not there to know what happened behind the scene. |
Re: Was Apostle Suleman Correct On Buhari's Bereavement Or Coincidence? by BluntBoy(m): 3:00pm On Dec 31, 2017 |
petra1: Did Hezekiah ask Isaiah what to do? No, he didn't. |
Re: Was Apostle Suleman Correct On Buhari's Bereavement Or Coincidence? by BluntBoy(m): 3:01pm On Dec 31, 2017 |
petra1: Sule is a false prophet. Hope you know that? |
Re: Was Apostle Suleman Correct On Buhari's Bereavement Or Coincidence? by petra1(m): 4:16pm On Dec 31, 2017 |
BluntBoy: wrong |
Re: Was Apostle Suleman Correct On Buhari's Bereavement Or Coincidence? by petra1(m): 4:19pm On Dec 31, 2017 |
BluntBoy: He argued his case with God aright. Thats the widom of God |
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