raumdeuter:


Excellent minds originate things for smaller ones to use

No doubt boss. You are a legend in your area.

raumdeuter:
Mine is simple show us any big game Terry delivered. No one has been able to do that. Not for club not for country.

The biggest games he was a passenger or an accrual spectator

when you ask this kind of questions you just prove to the world that you actual listen to radio commentary and not watch match.

raumdeuter:


And what wad the performance in big game of Gattuso vs Ballack or of Ozil vs Baggio

Players like Terry who are average but tagged along more industrious teammates and their relevance in polling booth awards have no big game performance to point to in their entire career

belleti scored the winning goal against arsenal
Does that make him better than Terry?

popizaino:
so john terry didn't deliver in big games compare to Boateng?sorry I forgot to mention john terry in the same line with jerome is an insult to the chelsea legend.

Boateng delivered a MOTM performance in the world cup especially the final, He delivered same in the CL especially the CL final

Mention one big game Terry game he has dominated. I followed Terry's club and country career from the beginning, from the game vs Turkey when he deputized Rio Ferdinand and he has always been mediocre

I have done a detailed analysis of his performances before here. If you want I can give it to you

popizaino:
when you ask this kind of questions you just prove to the world that you actual listen to radio commentary and not watch match.

I am sure I have watched more games than you have ever watched

I will give you a detailed breakdown of Terrys misadventure in the CL how he has been a cancer to the team but hiding under the cover of academy player for almost 2 decades

From the time Shabani Nonda was sodomizing him to Luis Garcia to everyone in crucial CL semis

sod09:
belleti scored the winning goal against arsenal
Does that make him better than Terry?

In what world do we compare Right backs to Center defenders?

Explain how do you compare Bellerin to Koscielny

Skimpledawg:

No doubt boss. You are a legend in your area.

game recognize game

raumdeuter:


In what world do we compare Right backs to Center defenders?

Explain how do you compare Bellerin to Koscielny

you tell me how you compare gatusso, ballack and Gerrard

raumdeuter:


And what wad the performance in big game of Gattuso vs Ballack or of Ozil vs Baggio

Players like Terry who are average but tagged along more industrious teammates and their relevance in polling booth awards have no big game performance to point to in their entire career

if players like Terry is average then I doubt if germany has ever produced a world class players before not even overrated Manuel neur who isn't better than degea .

sod09:
you tell me how you compare gatusso, ballack and Gerrard

They are all central midfielders and Ballack is the best of the lot. Ballack is actually better than Lampard

It would be Ballack>> lampard>>Gerrard>>Gattuso

popizaino:
if players like Terry is average then I doubt if germany has ever produced a world class players before not even overrated Manuel neur who isn't better than degea .

Germany hasnt produced a world class player but have 5 world cups and England with world class players top to bottom havent made a world cup final in over half a century

Na wa for these type of football analyst o

In the past 20yrs Germany would name 7 Central defenders better than Terry if we look closer maybe 10

raumdeuter:


They are all central midfielders and Ballack is the best of the lot. Ballack is actually better than Lampard

It would be Ballack>> lampard>>Gerrard>>Gattuso

Come on, this is a new year bros

popizaino:
if players like Terry is average then I doubt if germany has ever produced a world class players before not even overrated Manuel neur who isn't better than degea .

neuer is not even better than oblak

sod09:

Come on, this is a new year bros

That is the truth as always

raumdeuter:


Boateng delivered a MOTM performance in the world cup especially the final, He delivered same in the CL especially the CL final

Mention one big game Terry game he has dominated. I followed Terry's club and country career from the beginning, from the game vs Turkey when he deputized Rio Ferdinand and he has always been mediocre

I have done a detailed analysis of his performances before here. If you want I can give it to you

Chelsea Player of the Year : 2000–01 , [213]
2005–06 [213]
Premier League Player of the Month : January 2005 [191]
PFA Players' Player of the Year : 2004–05 [11]
PFA Team of the Year : 2003–04 Premier League, [214] 2004–05 Premier League, [215]
2005–06 Premier League ,[216] 2014–15 Premier League [217]
FIFA FIFPro World XI : 2004–05, [218] 2005–06, [219] 2006–07, [220] 2007–08, [221] 2009 [222]
UEFA Club Defender of the Year : 2005, [203] 2008, [203] 2009 [203]
UEFA Team of the Year : 2005 , [203]
2007 ,[203] 2008 ,[203] 2009 [203]
FIFA World Cup All-Star Team : 2006 [89]
PFA Team of the Century (1997–2007): 2007


Abeg we need Boateng to win uefa club defender of the year before we can have proper discussion.

sod09:
neuer is not even better than oblak

Neuer is not even better than Austin Ejide

raumdeuter:


And what wad the performance in big game of Gattuso vs Ballack or of Ozil vs Baggio

Players like Terry who are average but tagged along more industrious teammates and their relevance in polling booth awards have no big game performance to point to in their entire career

AC Milan vs Manchester United UCL semi-final 2nd leg 2007. Gatuso produced the best performance by a defensive midfielder in the history of Champions league. By your logic even The only champions league final Ballack played, he was anonymous. so we can safely say Ballack is a fraud.

popizaino:
Chelsea Player of the Year : 2000–01 , [213]
2005–06 [213]
Premier League Player of the Month : January 2005 [191]
PFA Players' Player of the Year : 2004–05 [11]
PFA Team of the Year : 2003–04 Premier League, [214] 2004–05 Premier League, [215]
2005–06 Premier League ,[216] 2014–15 Premier League [217]
FIFA FIFPro World XI : 2004–05, [218] 2005–06, [219] 2006–07, [220] 2007–08, [221] 2009 [222]
UEFA Club Defender of the Year : 2005, [203] 2008, [203] 2009 [203]
UEFA Team of the Year : 2005 , [203]
2007 ,[203] 2008 ,[203] 2009 [203]
FIFA World Cup All-Star Team : 2006 [89]
PFA Team of the Century (1997–2007): 2007


Abeg we need Boateng to win uefa club defender of the year before we can have proper discussion.

See as he list all the polling booth awards, When will you show us what Terry did on the field and not what he did in polling booth

Is he a footballer or a politician? If Terry is boasting about polling booth achievements, what should Dino Melaye now say

CapitalCee:


AC Milan vs Manchester United UCL semi-final 2nd leg 2007. Gatuso produced the best performance by a defensive midfielder in the history of Champions league. By your logic even The only champions league final Ballack played, he was anonymous. so we can safely say Ballack is a fraud.

Leverkusen vs Liverpool 2002 CL quarters second leg

Leverkusen vs Man Utd at Old trafford

Leverkusen played one of the greatest football teams in the final, Madrid Galacticos

World cup Second round, quarter final semi final

Show me something Gattuso has done on this level

raumdeuter:


Leverkusen vs Liverpool 2002 CL quarters second leg

Leverkusen vs Man Utd at Old trafford

Leverkusen played one of the greatest football teams in the final, Madrid Galacticos

World cup Second round, quarter final semi final

Show me something Gattuso has done on this level

didn't Gattuso also play in the World cup 2nd round, quarter final and semi-final? and even final and won. he was a mainstay of the Milan team that won 2 out of the 3 champions league final from 2003-2007.
I am even surprised you are degrading Rino Gattuso. the guy was one of the best defensive midfielders in the past 3 decades. what are you even saying? what has Ballack done really that Rino had not done?

CapitalCee:


didn't Gattuso also play in the World cup 2nd round, quarter final and semi-final? and even final and won. he was a mainstay of the Milan team that won 2 out of the 3 champions league final from 2003-2007.
I am even surprised you are degrading Rino Gattuso. the guy was one of the best defensive midfielders in the past 3 decades. what are you even saying? what has Ballack done really that Rino had not done?

He played and did what? How and watch Leverkusen of 2002 or Germany of 2002 world cup and come back to compare him to Gattuso

Ballack was motm in the games played. Quarter, semi before he sacrificed himself for his team to play the final.

Gattuso was a mainstay not the best player not even a top 3 player in that Milan side.

HOW am I degrading Gattuso by saying he isn't on the level of Ballack? If I say Suarez isn't on the level of Messi or lewandoski isn't on the level of Ronaldo am I degrading them?

In 2002, Ballack was the best midfielder in the whole of Europe, which year can we say Gattuso was something like that.

raumdeuter:


He played and did what? How and watch Leverkusen of 2002 or Germany of 2002 world cup and come back to compare him to Gattuso

Ballack was motm in the games played. Quarter, semi before he sacrificed himself for his team to play the final.

Gattuso was a mainstay not the best player not even a top 3 player in that Milan side.

HOW am I degrading Gattuso by saying he isn't on the level of Ballack? If I say Suarez isn't on the level of Messi or lewandoski isn't on the level of Ronaldo am I degrading them?

In 2002, Ballack was the best midfielder in the whole of Europe, which year can we say Gattuso was something like that.

who made him the best midfielder in the whole of Europe in 2002? oh this is no longer a pooling booth award abi

CapitalCee:
who made him the best midfielder in the whole of Europe in 2002? oh this is no longer a pooling booth award abi

His performance on the field. made him the best midfielder in Europe. Solid performance in the CL and in the world cup made him the best midfielder not ammasing votes in polling booths

raumdeuter:


See as he list all the polling booth awards, When will you show us what Terry did on the field and not what he did in polling booth

Is he a footballer or a politician? If Terry is boasting about polling booth achievements, what should Dino Melaye now say

is vidic a politician or is Sergio ramos a politician too because the same polling booth got them so many individual awards too.

popizaino:
is vidic a politician or is Sergio ramos a politician too because the same polling booth got them so many individual awards too.

Vidic and Ramos can point to performances on the field where they dominated in big games, Terry cannot

below is John terry in a CL semi vs Shabani Nonda. I am certain 80% of people on this forum dont even know

This is Terry getting sodomized by Shabani Nonda
[img]http:///media/11-17-2016/69sSL3.gif[/img]

This is vs Morientes in the 2004 CL semi running around aimlessly like a familiar spirit
[img]http:///media/11-17-2016/M9RTfI.gif[/img]

This is vs Luis Garcia in the 2005 CL semi finals which Chelsea lost. See Terry in Jersey 26 jumping like an epileptic patient
[img]http:///media/11-17-2016/hlH3L-.gif[/img]

This is vs Atletico in the 2014 CL semi final which Chelsea lost see Terry just clueless all over the place
[img]http:///media/11-17-2016/meFEjN.gif[/img]
All in crucial CL semi finals which Chelsea lost all

This is a CL crucial match where Terry was marking his own man



The only CL that Chelsea won, Terry was sent off in the semi finals and missed the final

Lets all hail John Terry Rankadede baba Terry

When I see how people rate Terry I can only say God is Great or to copy Terry Allahu Akbar

raumdeuter:


Vidic and Ramos can point to performances on the field where they dominated in big games, Terry cannot

Gattuso will also point to big games he won with big performances which ballack won't be able.so Gattuso is better than ballack.

degea better than Manuel neur
victor valdes better than Manuel neur too

raumdeuter:

Errrrr.....Four actually. You are welcome

raumdeuter:

In the past 20yrs Germany would name 7 Central defenders better than Terry if we look closer maybe 10

Name em'?......Make I no see Kohler or Sammer for that list o

raumdeuter:


His performance on the field. made him the best midfielder in Europe. Solid performance in the CL and in the world cup made him the best midfielder not ammasing votes in polling booths

He is not the best midfielder in the world then. Germany played Slovenia, USA and South Korea enroute to the finals. their first proper opposition Brazil, they were roundly beaten. even Nigeria can beat those teams. Ballack was not better than Zidane for example in 2002. Ballack is not a better footballer than Gattuso.

popizaino:
Gattuso will also point to big games he won with big performances which ballack won't be able.so Gattuso is better than ballack.

degea better than Manuel neur
victor valdes better than Manuel neur too

Big games like what? Games without names?

chic2pimp:

Errrrr.....Four actually. You are welcome




Name em'?......Make I no see Kohler or Sammer for that list o

Sammer Kohler, Boateng Hummels Metzelder, Friedrich Howedes as a start

popizaino:
Gattuso will also point to big games he won with big performances which ballack won't be able.so Gattuso is better than ballack.

degea better than Manuel neur
victor valdes better than Manuel neur too

no but honestly I am not joking oo . Ballack is not a better player than Gattuso. Rino was a tank during his days, one of the best in his position for decades.