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| Jesus, Not God by adekhingz(m): 3:18pm On Jan 03, 2018 |
We live in a world where 2 + 2 = 5, Just as 1 + 1 +1 = 1 If you are confused �, read this: Who is god? Jesus Is Jesus the son of Mary? Yes Who created Mary? God. Who is God? Jesus Jesus is the begotten son. Yes Who is his father? God. Who is God? Jesus. Jesus is a servant of God? Yes Who is God? Jesus. Jesus died on the cross? Yes Who resurrected him? God. Who is God? Jesus Jesus is a messenger? Yes Who sent him? God. Who is God? Jesus. Did Jesus worship while on earth? Yes Whom did he worship? God. Who is God? Jesus. Did God have a beginning? No.... Then who was born on 25 DEC?Jesus. Who is God? Jesus. Where's God? In heaven How many are there in heaven?Only one God. Where's Jesus? He is sitted on the right hand of his father. Who is God? Jesus. Then how many are they in heaven? Only one God Then how many seats? One Where's Jesus? Seated next to God. Then how are they seated? On one chair Its only understood by those with the holy spirit. Who is God? Jesus. Hmm! what a confusion. So beautiful to be a Muslim, Allah (SWT) have mercy on us all and grant us His straight path for us not to go astray.Salam alaykum to you all. 3 Likes |
| Re: Jesus, Not God by TheUbermensch: 3:22pm On Jan 03, 2018 |
What a load if gibberish. It's not a bad thing to be misinformed. The problem comes when you begin to flaunt your ignorance like an antique timepiece. If you don't know anything, ask questions. Don't just makeup fancy stuff in your head simply because you want to spite one's religion. You don't know how ridiculous you sound. 2 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: Jesus, Not God by dallyemmy: 3:44pm On Jan 03, 2018 |
Have you read Psalms 82:6 - "I said, 'You are "gods"; you are all sons of the Most High.' Why are you using limited physical knowledge to interpret spiritual things. God is a Spirit! He is not a physical entity... Have you seen a spirit before? Have you seen a demon before? Where does a demon stay in a possessed person? adekhingz: |
| Re: Jesus, Not God by xxxtedyxxx(m): 3:51pm On Jan 03, 2018 |
jobless guy, go get a job to keep you busy. |
| Re: Jesus, Not God by Nobody: 4:01pm On Jan 03, 2018 |
adekhingz:Thank u my dear Jesus Christ is not God, 6 Likes 4 Shares |
| Re: Jesus, Not God by enilove(m): 4:24pm On Jan 03, 2018 |
adekhingz: Is not beautiful to be a Muslim but a disaster, calamity and the greatest mistake of any mankind. Everything about Islam is idolatry. Tell my why you believe Muhammed or anybody should believe Muhammed was a prophet of God. |
| Re: Jesus, Not God by enilove(m): 5:09pm On Jan 03, 2018 |
Jesse01: God is a Creator. Who can give life other than God? If Jesus can turn an ordinary clay to a bird , is he not a a God? Allah SWT says: وَرَسُولًا إِلٰى بَنِىٓ إِسْرٰٓءِيلَ أَنِّى قَدْ جِئْتُكُمْ بِئَايَةٍ مِّنْ رَّبِّكُمْ ۖ أَنِّىٓ أَخْلُقُ لَكُمْ مِّنَ الطِّينِ كَهَيْئَةِ الطَّيْرِ فَأَنْفُخُ فِيهِ فَيَكُونُ طَيْرًۢا بِإِذْنِ اللَّهِ ۖ وَأُبْرِئُ الْأَكْمَهَ وَالْأَبْرَصَ وَأُحْىِ الْمَوْتٰى بِإِذْنِ اللَّهِ ۖ وَأُنَبِّئُكُمْ بِمَا تَأْكُلُونَ وَمَا تَدَّخِرُونَ فِى بُيُوتِكُمْ ۚ إِنَّ فِى ذٰلِكَ لَءَايَةً لَّكُمْ إِنْ كُنْتُمْ مُّؤْمِنِينَ "And [make him] a messenger to the Children of Israel, [who will say], 'Indeed I have come to you with a sign from your Lord in that I design for you from clay [that which is] like the form of a bird, then I breathe into it and it becomes a bird by permission of Allah. And I cure the blind and the leper, and I give life to the dead - by permission of Allah. And I inform you of what you eat and what you store in your houses. Indeed in that is a sign for you, if you are believers." (QS. Aal-i-Imraan: Verse 49) * Via the Beautiful Qur'an https:///QLwc8B |
| Re: Jesus, Not God by ScienceWatch: 5:18pm On Jan 03, 2018 |
TheUbermensch:Spoken like a pro ! He does sound ridicules, like a dude on that new drug called FLAKKA. |
| Re: Jesus, Not God by adekhingz(m): 6:10pm On Jan 03, 2018 |
TheUbermensch: I'm sharing this not to ridicule Christianity ( It does me no good to). I'm just explaining to you guys how confusing your claim that Jesus is God. Muslims believe in Jesus too, but not as a (G)god. But I agree with you that Jesus is not an ordinary person like Us. he is holy and free from all faults. I intend no blasphemy please 2 Likes |
| Re: Jesus, Not God by adekhingz(m): 6:23pm On Jan 03, 2018 |
dallyemmy: I think we are on the same course. God is not human. He is a supreme spiritual being. Jesus came to the world, and lived among us. Even if you agree he is God but only came in his human form, let's worship God. let's worship God. call God's name for help not Jesus 1 Like |
| Re: Jesus, Not God by adekhingz(m): 6:27pm On Jan 03, 2018 |
xxxtedyxxx: I'm sorry if I sound offensive, I was only communicating a point. I mean no harm, I swear |
| Re: Jesus, Not God by adekhingz(m): 6:32pm On Jan 03, 2018 |
Jesse01: Thanks for your comment too |
| Re: Jesus, Not God by adekhingz(m): 6:47pm On Jan 03, 2018 |
enilove:The God we Muslims worship is the one who bears the attributes below. if someone else shares all these attributes, tell me and we Muslims will worship him..... 1. (ﺍﻟﻠﻪ ) Allah (The God) 2. (ﺍﻟﻌﺪﻝ ) Al 'Adl (The Just) 3. (ﺍﻟﻌﻔﻮ) Al 'Afuw (The Pardoner) 4. (ﺍﻻﺣﺪ ) Al Ahad (The Nondivisible) 5. (ﺍﻵﺧﺮ ) Al Akhir (The Final) 6. (ﺍﻟﻌﻠﻲ ) Al Ali (The Most High) 7. (ﺍﻟﻌﻠﻴﻢ ) Al Alim (The Learned) 8. (ﺍﻷﻭﻝ ) Al Awwal (The First) 9. (ﺍﻟﻌﻈﻴﻢ ) Al-Azim (The Greatest) 10. ( ﺍﻟﻌﺰﻳﺰ) Al Aziz (The Most Mighty) 11. ( ﺍﻟﺒﺪﻳﻊ ) Al Badi (The Introducer) 12. ( ﺍﻟﺒﺎﻋﺚ ) Al Ba'ith (The Ressurector) 13. ( ﺍﻟﺒﺎﺭﯼ) Al Bari (The Manifestor) 14. ( ﺍﻟﺒﺮ) Al Barr (The Benevolent) 15. ( ﺍﻟﺒﺼﻴﺮ ) Al Basir (The Perceiving) 16. ( ﺍﻟﺒﺎﺳﻂ ) Al Basit (The Expander) 17. ( ﺍﻟﺒﺎﻃﻦ ) Al Batin (The Transcendental) 18. ( ﺫﻭ ﺍﻟﺠﻼﻝ ﻭ ﺍﻹﻛﺮﺍﻡ ) Dhu al Jalal wa al Ikram (Having Majesty And Splendour) 19. ( ﺁﻝ ﺳﻮﺭﺓ ﻓﺎﻃﺮ ) Al-Fatir (The Inventor) 20. ( ﺍﻟﻔﺘﺎﺡ) Al Fattah (The Judge) 21. ( ﺍﻟﻐﻔﺎﺭ ) Al Ghaffar (The Oft Forgiving) 22. ( ﺍﻟﻐﻔﻮﺭ ) Al Ghafur (The Most Forgiving) 23. ( ﺁﻝ ﻏﺎﻟﺐ ) Al-Ghalib (The Victor) 24. ( ﺍﻟﻐﻨﻲ) Al Ghani (The Bounteous) 25. ( ﺍﻟﻬﺎﺩﻱ) Al Hadi (The Leading) 26. ( ﺍﻟﺤﻔﻴﻆ) Al Hafiz (The Preserver) 27. ( ﺍﻟﺤﻜﻢ ) Al Hakam (The Intercessor) 28. ( ﺍﻟﺤﻜﻴﻢ ) Al Hakim (The Knowledgeable) 29. ( ﺍﻟﺤﻠﻴﻢ) Al Halim (The Patient) 30. ( ﺍﻟﺤﻤﻴﺪ) Al Hamid (The Praiseworthy) 31. ( ﺍﻟﺤﻖ) Al Haqq (The Sincere) 32. ( ﺍﻟﺤﺴﻴﺐ) Al Hasib (The Calculating) 33. ( ﺍﻟﺤﻲ ) Al Hayy (The Eternal-living) 34. ( ﺍﻟﺠﺒﺎﺭ ) Al Jabbar (The Strongest) 35. ( ﺍﻟﺠﻠﻴﻞ ) Al Jalil (The Dignified) 36. ( ﺍﻟﺠﺎﻣﻊ ) Al Jami' (The Cumulator) 37. ( ﺍﻟﻜﺒﻴﺮ) Al Kabir (The Grandest) 38. ( ﺍﻟﻜﺮﻳﻢ) Al Karim (The Generous) 39. ( ﺍﻟﺨﺒﻴﺮ ) Al Khabir (The All-Aware) 40. ( ﺍﻟﺨﺎﻓﺾ) Al Khafid (The Demeaning) 41. ( ﺍﻟﺨﺎﻟﻖ ) Al Khaliq (The Maker) 42. ( ﺍﻟﻠﻄﻴﻒ ) Al Latif (The Kind) 43. ( ﺍﻟﻤﺠﻴﺪ) Al Majid (The Glorious) 44. ( ﺍﻟﻤﻠﻚ ) Al Malik (The King) 45. ( ﻣﺎﻟﻚ ﺍﻟﻤﻠﻚ ) Malik al Mulk (The Guardian Of Empowerment) 46. ( ﺍﻟﻤﺎﻧﻊ ) Al Mani' (The Withhelding) 47. ( ﺍﻟﻤﺘﻴﻦ ) Al Matin (The Steadfast) 48. ( ﺍﻟﻤﻮﻟﻰ ) Al-Mawla (The Supporter) 49. ( ﺍﻟﻤﺆﺧﺮ ) Al Mu'akhkhir (The Delayer) 50. ( ﺍﻟﻤﺒﺪﺉ ) Al Mubdi (The Initiator) 51. ( ﺍﻟﻤﻐﻨﻲ ) Al Mughni (The Blesser) 52. ( ﺍﻟﻤﻬﻴﻤﻦ) Al Muhaimin (The Protector) 53. ( ﺍﻟﻤﺤﺼﻲ ) Al Muhsi (The Accounter) 54. ( ﺍﻟﻤﺤﻴﻲ) Al Muhyi (The Lifegiver) 55. ( ﺍﻟﻤﻌﻴﺪ ) Al Mu'id (The Reinstater) 56. ( ﺍﻟﻤﻌﺰ) Al Mu'izz (The Honorgiving) 57. ( ﺍﻟﻤﺠﻴﺐ ) Al Mujib (The Responsive) 58. ( ﺍﻟﻤﺆﻣﻦ ) Al Mu'min (The Faithgiving) 59. ( ﺍﻟﻤﻤﻴﺖ) Al Mumit (The Deathbringer) 60. ( ﺍﻟﻤﻨﺘﻘﻢ ) Al Muntaqim (The Retaliator) 61. ( ﺍﻟﻤﻘﺪﻡ) Al Muqaddim (The Promoter) 62. ( ﺍﻟﻤﻘﻴﺖ) Al Muqit (The Coordinator) 63. ( ﺍﻟﻤﻘﺴﻂ ) Al Muqsit (The Equitable) 64. ( ﺍﻟﻤﻘﺘﺪﺭ ) Al Muqtadir (The Controller) 65. ( ﺍﻟﻤﺼﻮﺭ ) Al Musawwir (The Proportioner) 66. ( ﺍﻟﻤﺘﻌﺎﻟﻲ) Al Muta'ali (The Supreme Highness) 67. ( ﺍﻟﻤﺘﻜﺒﺮ) Al Mutakabbir (The Magnificent) 68. ( ﻧﻨﺼﺮ) An-Nasir (The Keeper) 69. ( ﺍﻟﻨﻮﺭ ) An Nur (The Light) 70. ( ﺍﻟﻘﺎﺑﺾ ) Al Qabid (The Straightener) 71. ( ﺍﻟﻘﺎﺩﺭ ) Al Qadir (The Competent) 72. ( ﺍﻟﻘﻬﺎﺭ ) Al Qahhar (The Subduer) 73. ( ﺁﻝ ﺍﻟﻘﺮﻳﺐ ) Al-Qarib (The Near) 74. ( ﺍﻟﻘﻮﻱ) Al Qawi (The Nontiring) 75. ( ﺍﻟﻘﻴﻮﻡ ) Al Qayum (The Self-Reliant) 76. ( ﺍﻟﻘﺪﻭﺱ) Al Quddus (The Holiest) 77. ( ﺍﺭﺭﺏ ) Ar-Rabb (The Lord) 78. ( ﺍﻟﺮﺍﻓﻊ) Ar Rafi' (The Uplifting) 79. ( ﺍﻟﺮﺣﻴﻢ ) Ar Rahim (The Merciful) 80. ( ﺍﻟﺮﺣﻤٰﻦ ) Ar Rahman (The Beneficient) 81. ( ﺍﻟﺮﻗﻴﺐ ) Ar Raqib (The Watchful) 82. ( ﺍﻟﺮﺅﻭﻑ ) Ar Ra'uf (The Considerate) 83. ( ﺍﻟﺮﺯﺍﻕ ) Ar Razzaq (The Providing) 84. ( ﺍﻟﺼﺒﻮﺭ ) Al Sabur (The Forbearing, The Patient) 85. ( ﺍﻟﺴﻼﻡ ) As Salam (The Source Of Serenity) 86. ( ﺍﻟﺼﻤﺪ ) As Samad (The Eternal) 87. ( ﺍﻟﺴﻤﻴﻊ) Al Sami (The Aware) 88. ( ﺍﻟﺸﻬﻴﺪ) Ash Shahid (The Watcher) 89. ( ﺍﻟﺸﻜﻮﺭ) Ash Shakur (The Indebting) 90. ( ﺍﻟﺘﻮﺍﺏ ) At Tawwaab (The Magnanimous) 91. ( ﺍﻟﻮﺩﻭﺩ) Al Wadud (The Affectionate) 92. ( ﺍﻟﻮﻫﺎﺏ ) Al Wahhab (The Rewarder) 93. ( ﺍﻟﻮﺍﺣﺪ ) Al Wahid (The Singularity) 94. ( ﺍﻟﻮﺍﺟﺪ ) Al Wajid (The Considerer) 95. ( ﺍﻟﻮﻛﻴﻞ ) Al Wakil (The Trustee) 96. ( ﺍﻟﻮﻟﻲ) Al Wali (The Patron) 97. ( ﺍﻟﻮﺍﺭﺙ ) Al Waarith (The Succeder) 98. ( ﺍﻟﻮﺍﺳﻊ ) Al Wasi' (The Vast) 99. ( ﺍﻟﻈﺎﻫﺮ ) Az Zahir (The Apparent) 1 Like |
| Re: Jesus, Not God by dallyemmy: 7:04pm On Jan 03, 2018 |
adekhingz: Read John 14:13-14 & 15:16. |
| Re: Jesus, Not God by adekhingz(m): 7:12pm On Jan 03, 2018 |
[quote author=enilove post=63862150] He did all by Allah's permission. |
| Re: Jesus, Not God by adekhingz(m): 7:29pm On Jan 03, 2018 |
dallyemmy:Yet, the father is not the son. it's just as simple as that. thanks |
| Re: Jesus, Not God by enilove(m): 7:39pm On Jan 03, 2018 |
adekhingz: Human beings give birth to humans like them, Animals give birth to animals in their likeness. A lion will give birth to a lion. If Holy Spirit of God planted a child in the womb of a woman , what kind of child will the woman produce? The woman would give birth to the child of the Holy Spirit . That is, the Child is having or carrying the DNA of his Father. So, if the child of Spirit of God carries the Spirit of the Father who is God , is the child not a God like the Father ? |
| Re: Jesus, Not God by adekhingz(m): 7:52pm On Jan 03, 2018 |
enilove: Please don't get it twisted. Mary, a human being like you and I, gave birth to Jesus, not God. If Mary is a human being, she must have given birth to a human too. History did not tell us God impregnated Mary, except you want to blaspheme God as being a rapist. God Never copulated with her. she conceived as a virgin. 1 Like |
| Re: Jesus, Not God by adekhingz(m): 7:55pm On Jan 03, 2018 |
We should ask, since we agree that God is in heaven, why didn't He drop Jesus from heaven as He raised him to heaven after the crucification saga? Or are you saying it's impossible for Him to create Jesus without a mother? If Jesus is a god, then Adam who was created with neither father not mother should be a greater god! 1 Like |
| Re: Jesus, Not God by Preciousgirl(f): 7:57pm On Jan 03, 2018 |
Jesus is the almighty God
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| Re: Jesus, Not God by adekhingz(m): 8:18pm On Jan 03, 2018 |
Preciousgirl: That's what you've been taught to believe. But it's actually not the truth. Anyway, we all are entitled to our opinion 1 Like |
| Re: Jesus, Not God by enilove(m): 8:31pm On Jan 03, 2018 |
adekhingz: Why among the attributes of God, why is your Allah not called : CREATOR OF THE UNIVERSE, THE FIRST AND THE LAST, THE KING OF KINGS , THE LORD OF LORDS . If your Allah is the FIRST, he is not the LAST , because he is expecting others like him. He might be the first among the Angels because God later created other angels after the first angel. Revelation 1:17 KJV And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last: We have kings on earth, God should not be ranked along with his creatures. He should be the KING THAT RULES OVER THE EARTHLY KINGS. But Allah is not so. He is a mere king. Your Allah is a god. Your Allah is also a lord. Since there are many called gods and lords , like god of Iron, god of Thunder etc, Your god is just like one of them. 1 Corinthians 8:5 KJV For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,) Judges 16:5 KJV And the lords of the Philistines came up unto her, and said unto her, Entice him, and see wherein his great strength lieth , and by what means we may prevail against him, that we may bind him to afflict him:... But our God from the Beginning has calling Himself ; GOD OF GODS , LORD OF LORDS , KING OF KINGS. Deuteronomy 10:17-18 KJV For the Lord your God is God of gods, and Lord of lords, a great God, a mighty, and a terrible, which regardeth not persons, nor taketh reward: [18] He doth execute the judgment of the fatherless and widow, and loveth the stranger, in giving him food and raiment. Are you ready to serve that God of Gods and Lord or Lords , as you promised , because our God has all the attributes above and far and greater attributes ,like THE ALPHA AND THE OMEGA, THE CONSUMING FIRE , CREATOR OF THE HEAVEN AND THE EARTH , GOD OF GODS, LORD OF LORDS? |
| Re: Jesus, Not God by noblefrank31(m): 8:45pm On Jan 03, 2018 |
| Re: Jesus, Not God by enilove(m): 9:00pm On Jan 03, 2018 |
adekhingz: Who impregnated Mary ? God does not need to have intercourse b4 making any human to have a child : Luke 1:31-37 KJV And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS. [32] He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David: [33] And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end. [34] Then said Mary unto the angel, How shall this be, seeing I know not a man? [35] And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God. [36] And, behold, thy cousin Elisabeth, she hath also conceived a son in her old age: and this is the sixth month with her, who was called barren. [37] For with God nothing shall be impossible. Verse 35 tells you how Mary conceived. |
| Re: Jesus, Not God by Nobody: 9:10pm On Jan 03, 2018 |
adekhingz:So unfortunate that many of your kind can never comprehend or understand the Bible because you read it like literature. Jesus is God. Man in flesh dwelling among men. The following verses of the Bible support it whether you like or not. 1. 2 Peter 1:1 . . . our God and Savior Jesus Christ: 2.we find that Jesus is worshiped in every way that the Bible specifically describes worship of God the Father, with all the same words used (see: Rev 4:9-11, 5:13; 7:11-12, and Rom 11:33). 3. John 10:30 The Father and I are one 4. John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 5. Romans 10:13 For “everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.” 6. Revelation 1:17-18 When I saw him, I fell at his feet as though dead. But he laid his right hand on me, saying, “Fear not, I am the first and the last, and the living one. I died, and behold I am alive forevermore, and I have the keys of Death and Hades. 7.Colossians 1:15-17 (ESV) He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation. For by him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things were created through him and for him. And he is before all things, and in him all things hold together |
| Re: Jesus, Not God by adekhingz(m): 9:38pm On Jan 03, 2018 |
enilove: Funny enough Christians in the South call Allah god, while their counter-part in the North call God Allah. It's same as you saying "Eledumare and chineka Are Yoruba & Igbo idols respectively. |
| Re: Jesus, Not God by adekhingz(m): 9:47pm On Jan 03, 2018 |
asuustrike2009: You've only succeeded in giving reference to my point. You guys are getting it wrong. God is one. He didn't impregnate Mary as you accused. Birth of Jesus by Mary was a miracle. Neither Jesus nor any other being deserves to be worshipped. Okay, let's agree that Jesus is a god in human form, why not pray to the heavenly God? Why must you pray to a man? Was that how people worship Jesus when he was alive  Evidence to him being worshipped during his lifetime, please!!!! |
| Re: Jesus, Not God by adekhingz(m): 9:56pm On Jan 03, 2018 |
enilove: It still didn't show God being the father, did it??! If you agree God had no(thing) with Mary, the fact that he made her conceive doesn't push the paternity to him. |
| Re: Jesus, Not God by enilove(m): 9:57pm On Jan 03, 2018 |
adekhingz: I want to ask you one question , does Allah means title of a supreme being or name of a God? Like God is a title for a supreme being who Created heaven and earth in English language. And the name of that God to the Christians is Jehovah. What is the name of Allah ?. Don't give us any attributes , pls. |
| Re: Jesus, Not God by enilove(m): 9:59pm On Jan 03, 2018 |
adekhingz: Who then owns the child? |
| Re: Jesus, Not God by adekhingz(m): 10:04pm On Jan 03, 2018 |
enilove:The child is Mary's. He has no father. |
| Re: Jesus, Not God by adekhingz(m): 10:04pm On Jan 03, 2018 |
enilove:The child is Mary's. He has no father. |
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