CapitalCee:


how about Berbatov, Basturk that led unfancied Turkey to world cup 3rd place, Oliver N euville, Ramelow, Bernd Schneider?

All of them were in Leverkusen after Ballack left and they finished 15th in the league and bottom of their 2nd CL group with 0 wins

CapitalCee:


about 1/3 of his reign English teams were banned from Europe, due to Heysel disaster. did you consider that? Ferguson took over united when they are relegation threatened. When you want to mock a great man state facts.
before he joined united, he led lowly Aberdeen to break the old firm league duopoly in scotland and and won the UEFA cup winners cup versus Real Madrid the first and only time Aberdeen has achieved the feat, before he guided Scotland to qualify for their first world cup in 1986. your assertion is not applicable.

Man Utd And Ferguson played in Europe between 92 and 2013 thats 20yrs of stability at one of the biggest teams in Europe

2 CL wins in 20yrs of stability

CapitalCee:


about 1/3 of his reign English teams were banned from Europe, due to Heysel disaster. did you consider that? Ferguson took over united when they are relegation threatened. When you want to mock a great man state facts.
before he joined united, he led lowly Aberdeen to break the old firm league duopoly in scotland and and won the UEFA cup winners cup versus Real Madrid the first and only time Aberdeen has achieved the feat, before he guided Scotland to qualify for their first world cup in 1986. your assertion is not applicable.

o please the ban started in 1985 and ended in 1989(4yrs) so that part is rubbish. From 1990 to 2013 when he retired is 23yrs. Ferguson won 2 champions league in 23yrs and that's the fact. Aberdeen that finished 2nd before Ferguson took over is now lowly. OK bros

This match dey turn my bele...

Stale 1st half....the derby keeper has been inspired during our set pieces anyway...but the lads need to play better to win this game...same lack of ideas and speed of thought in the final 3rd is costing them!

Rashford is besieged by his usual demons. Could've gotten 2 goals. Pogba finally managed to get a free kick on target and the keeper saves it.

raumdeuter:


All of them were in Leverkusen after Ballack left and they finished 15th in the league and bottom of their 2nd CL group with 0 wins

that's not the reason for their loss in form, Man Utd won the league in 2013 and finished 7th the following season with virtually the same players. so it happens.

CapitalCee:

that's not the reason for their loss in form, Man Utd won the league in 2013 and finished 7th the following season with virtually the same players. so it happens.

What was the reason for their loss of form? from CL finalists to losing scandalously in the groups state, from league runner up to 15th in the table

Man Utd lost their coach. Are you saying Man Utd would have finished 7th if they didnt lose Fergie?

raumdeuter:


All of them were in Leverkusen after Ballack left and they finished 15th in the league and bottom of their 2nd CL group with 0 wins

It could also be argued that it is because Ze Roberto left...

raumdeuter:


Man Utd And Ferguson played in Europe between 92 and 2013 thats 20yrs of stability at one of the biggest teams in Europe

2 CL wins in 20yrs of stability

Man United is not the biggest team in Europe at that time, check very well, the fan drastically affected English clubs, no wonder Spain and Italy had more slots than england. and he did not used his best players for Europe due to nationality restrictions.

patrickmuf:
It could also be argued that it is because Ze Roberto left...

Ballack was their best player in 2002 not Ze Roberto who couldnt even make his NT

At least we have eliminated the option of it being Lucio, Neuville Basturk Ramelow or all those yeye players you listed earlier

CapitalCee:


Man United is not the biggest team in Europe at that time, check very well, the fan drastically affected English clubs, no wonder Spain and Italy had more slots than england. and he did not used his best players for Europe due to nationality restrictions.

Who were the biggest clubs in Europe at that time? What did that rubbish mean tht he did not use his best players for Europe?
Can you give us the seasons Man Utd couldnt use their best players for Europe because of nationality restriction?

And what has slots got to do with anything? French league doesnt have as much slots as EnglandGermany Spain Italy does that mean PSG is not bigger favourite than all Italian clubs currently

And Rashford still remains on the pitch

raumdeuter:


Ballack was their best player in 2002 not Ze Roberto who couldnt even make his NT

At least we have eliminated the option of it being Lucio, Neuville Basturk Ramelow or all those yeye players you listed earlier

Basturk was a key member of that Turkish team that reached the semi final of the world cup, Lucio won the world cup, some others members of that Bayer team were in the German team that reach the final of the world cup so what exactly is your point? If you claimed Ballack was the one that dragged them, I don‘t know what you're gonna say of Kahn that was the player of the tournament...Your argument doesn't hold water because Ballack is not the only constant in that Bayer/German team

Pogba has been playing more shots since his criticism by Paul Scholes. He's got more than 5 in this game already. Paul did well.

patrickmuf:
Basturk was a key member of that Turkish team that reached the semi final of the world cup, Lucio won the world cup, some others members of that Bayer team were in the German team that reach the final of the world cup so what exactly is your point? If you claimed Ballack was the one that dragged them, I don‘t know what you're gonna say of Kahn that was the player of the tournament...Your argument doesn't hold water because Ballack is not the only constant in that Bayer/German team

Why couldnt all these Basturk, Lucio Ramelow and co carry the team after Ballack left. Ballack left Leverkusen went from 2nd to 15th, went from CL finalists to getting embarrased in the group stage, did Basturk Lucio Ramelow Neuville all suddenly lose their football skills the moment Ballack left the team

Ballack took Germany through the quarters through the semis and didnt play the final. Leverkusen he was undiputed best player and top scorer from midfield

Rashford is very useless, must you run faster than your sense every fncking time, all he thinks about when he has the ball is to run, what kind of uselessness is this

Mhen na juju derby follow come play us oo

Even the offside still hits the bar.. This is looking like a replay which would not end well

Jesse Lingard is certified

Lingard is on fire

WTF

Lingard and fantastic goals sha

just see how intelligent Martial is, no be to dey dey run with no direction

Lingard spoiledl the keeper's juju.

dopeJemi:
Rashford is very useless, must you run faster than your sense every fncking time, all he thinks about when he has the ball is to run, what kind of uselessness is this

To run and shoot. Doesn't look out for team mates

chrisley024:
To run and shoot. Doesn't look out for team mates

As in ehn, same routine every game, I Don tire for the boy honestly


Lukaku!!!

Lingard..........World Best!

Make I bend if Rashford passed there to Lukaku

Lukaku almost lost that goal. Dude is now celebrating though

chrisley024:
Make I bend if Rashford passed there to Lukaku

Rashford na a-hole na. He's like a brainless selfish chicken. He's always thinking of going for the goal himself.

Time to loan Rashford to Madrid

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