Kog45:
Yes i made that comment for those who are always sentimental about Nacho situation cos the general believe was he made a wrong move based on Leicester pattern of play which you are aware of, especially on this thread during Shakespeare tenured as a coach.

Some blamed Shakespeare instead of Nacho even till today Puel is receiving knocks here for Nacho situation.I don't believe Bristol coach is better than Shakespeare or Puel so Nacho should raise his game cos he is a valuable member of Super eagles,his goal ratio is a top notch and he remain the only player in present Eagles that w can count on when it comes to goal scoring,playing time is important for him,not just go to any club and be sitting on the bench.

Shey you guys are seeing mature, level headed criticism from Kog45 and Icon4s. Criticism coming from hearts that desire the good of the player not dark, killer criticism delivered with the acidity of a machine mind.

Liamm:
thank you sir. it's a pleasure being here. i've had one two shots thrown my way already but this is nairaland so i'm braced for it. it makes the experience even worthwhile

Just be expansive. You'd learn a lot no matter how much you knew before now. Enjoy

Update on Henry...

tbaba1234:


We do not play better games than north african teams.

There is no viewership because of the poor quality of the league, poor officiating and poor marketing. A league where home teams are destined to win.

My team is a delight to watch at nest of champions. I don't know about other teams at other venues.
As per poor quality, even some premier league games are poor in terms of play.

Officiating is fair at some venues due to a lot of factors chief of which is safety of officials.

Poor marketing: there's improvement. You too can help by following and retwitting LMC post on Twitter and Facebook. If we promote our league on social media, more people would be willing to go and watch. That will mean more money to the club. The club can buy better players. Agencies would be willing to advertise during matches and there will be more money in TV right. No matter what LMC does, without our support there's a limit to what they can achieve.

Home teams win because of psychology, officiating(see above). Again, almost all the teams have almost same financial clout and hence are at par in terms of coaching and quality of players. Thus with little home support, the home side wins.

Mujtahida:

Shey you asked tbaba1234 before and he told you. Fortuna Dusseldorf. I just like him. Not advocating his becoming one of our WC goalie sha

Make he sabi na the koko be dat

soetanoreoluwa:
Update on Henry...

Is he back to Everton?

Joebie:
You talk like that because you are sentimental. you don’t invite by comparison. You invite by reality on ground. If you are a coach and a player in your team is performing, will you drop him? Second question, if you were a coach, and a striker is still struggling to score his first goal for club, would u invite him? Consider the questions separately.

Joebie:
The point is KC is performing for SE. That will keep him in SE until he starts to underperform. You don't have a case for Kayode's inclusion.
He hasn't scored. He is a striker. I am team performance.

If KC is not doing well in his club but he still gets the chance to play for the SE and 'performs', how do you know Kayode will not perform better in GWG if given the chance though he has not scored 'this' season since club performance is not the yardstick for call into D SE?

Joebie:
The point is KC is performing for SE. That will keep him in SE until he starts to underperform. You don't have a case for Kayode's inclusion.
He hasn't scored. He is a striker. I am team performance.

You claimed in your first post that Kelechi is perfoming in the GWG hence he deserves to be called but I asked how do you know Kayode will not perform better if given the same CHANCE in the GWG?

Unfortunately, you began with an attack instead of given a more cogent and reasonable answer.


Now, let me ask you, with all the his performances that earned him goals and individual awards that he won last season how many chances was he given to play?

Someone even said Onyekuru performed better than Kayode with the few chances he got. Perhaps, we have forgotten so soon how Kayode snatched the ball and gave a through pass to free Iheanacho on one on one with the goalkeeper against Senegal that salvaged a draw after Iheanacho scored that penalty.

That was even his first match in GWG and he didn't spent up to 15 minutes to rescue a point as a SS.

Is that not performace?

Based on your first question, the reality on ground never favored Kayode because when he performed he was NEVER NEVER NEVER GIVEN A CHANCE and that has rendered the second question inconsequential. EOD

However, where did you read me make case for Kayode to be called? I hope u no dey drink maya dey take read my post oooo?

I grew up in Benue state during the heydays of the BCC Lions and Lobi Stars but I never caught on with the local league and I doubt if I'd ever get on with it because my programming makes me strongly disinterested in the league. Try as I could, I just am not interested in it.

But I want to say something encouraging especially to guys like BascoVanVeli, danycrusoe, somehow etc: remember that in the late 90's and early 2000 Nigerian music was not a force to reckon with even though it had enjoyed great home patronage from early independence till the early nineties when most recording studios packed up and left Nigeria.

In the 90's and early 2000 Tupac, biggie, Dr. Dre, p. Diddy, Master P, DMX, Sisqo, Wyclef, Mary J Blige were dominating the airwaves in Nigeria. But there were lone voice in the wilderness: Tuface, Plantashun boiz, African China were carrying on doggedly improving and becoming better.

Fifteen years on ook at how the tide has changed. People hardly listen to foreign music now. Nigerian musicians are even getting international recognition, winning awards.

I see the same thing happening with football. The most important thing is make sure the word about the league is put out there. Keep the league in focus. It will get better. This is based on a simple psychological truth:we perform or keep our best for the public eye. So if the league is put into focus and continously so it would improve.

forgiveness:



If KC is not doing well in his club but he still gets the chance to play for the SE and 'performs', how do you know Kayode will not perform better in GWG if given the chance though he has not scored 'this' season since club performance is not the yardstick for call into D SE?

You claimed in your first post that Kelechi is perfoming in the GWG hence he deserves to be called but I asked how do you know Kayode will not perform better if given the same CHANCE in the GWG?

Unfortunately, you began with an attack instead of given a more cogent and reasonable answer.


Now, let me ask you, with all the his performances that earned him goals and individual awards that he won last season how many chances was he given to play?

Someone even said Onyekuru performed better than Kayode with the few chances he got. Perhaps, we have forgotten so soon how Kayode snatched the ball and gave a through pass to free Iheanacho on one on one with the goalkeeper against Senegal that salvaged a draw after Iheanacho scored that penalty.

That was even his first match in GWG and he didn't spent up to 15 minutes to rescue a point as a SS.


Is that not performace?



Based on your first question, the reality on ground never favored Kayode because when he performed he was NEVER NEVER NEVER GIVEN A CHANCE and that has rendered the second question inconsequential. EOD

However, where did you read me make case for Kayode to be called? I hope u no dey drink maya dey take read my post oooo?

he was never given a chance? Did he not play as a forward against Senegal?

safarigirl:
he was never given a chance? Did he not play as a forward against Senegal?

Did you watch the match?

forgiveness:


Did you watch the match?

I don't need to watch the match, the coach that put him there watched it and so did some sports journalists and the reviews were nothing stlellar.

Whether I watched or not is inconsequential, I rarely watch our games sef cuz I'm in school 90% of the time....but he was given a chance and has had others since then. Do not peddle false stories to suit your narrative

MetalJigsaw:
Is he back to Everton?

I think for his medical... He's injured and you remember the games the anderlect medicals and coach are playing with his injury...

Anderlect has nothing to lose but huge loss to Everton

safarigirl:
I don't need to watch the match, the coach that put him there watched it and so did some sports journalists and the reviews were nothing stlellar.

Whether I watched or not is inconsequential, I rarely watch our games sef cuz I'm in school 90% of the time....but he was given a chance and has had others since then. Do not peddle false stories to suit your narrative

then why ask inconsequential questions?

I repeat Kayode was NEVER NEVER NEVER GIVEN A CHANCE. EOD

So,It is better you keep mute since you do not know nada.

What if another club hijack him in the process of waiting?

krattoss:
all ye barca fans rejoice for coutinho has signed for Barcelona. .

but like seriously. .

This Coutinho January move doesn't really make much sense to me..He's not going to play in the champions league and barcelona are comfortable in the league..
They will win la liga without him, he will not be more expensive in d summer, may even be cheaper so why take on the burden of paying his salary between now and june when they don't really need him?

You are not being logical.
There are many what IFs.
It makes no sense to drop a player who is performing for your team just on the ground that he is not performing for his club.

If we go by club performance, we will not have a team. However a player have to earn his invite either by club performance or SE performance. Kayode is a striker. He needs to score first. Today I don’t support Tammy because he is not performing. KC is ahead of Tammy, because he is in the team and has shown he is relevant. You can as well make an excuse for every player with your What Ifs

forgiveness:



If KC is not doing well in his club but he still gets the chance to play for the SE and 'performs', how do you know Kayode will not perform better in GWG if given the chance though he has not scored 'this' season since club performance is not the yardstick for call into D SE?

You claimed in your first post that Kelechi is perfoming in the GWG hence he deserves to be called but I asked how do you know Kayode will not perform better if given the same CHANCE in the GWG?

Unfortunately, you began with an attack instead of given a more cogent and reasonable answer.


Now, let me ask you, with all the his performances that earned him goals and individual awards that he won last season how many chances was he given to play?

Someone even said Onyekuru performed better than Kayode with the few chances he got. Perhaps, we have forgotten so soon how Kayode snatched the ball and gave a through pass to free Iheanacho on one on one with the goalkeeper against Senegal that salvaged a draw after Iheanacho scored that penalty.

That was even his first match in GWG and he didn't spent up to 15 minutes to rescue a point as a SS.

Is that not performace?

Based on your first question, the reality on ground never favored Kayode because when he performed he was NEVER NEVER NEVER GIVEN A CHANCE and that has rendered the second question inconsequential. EOD

However, where did you read me make case for Kayode to be called? I hope u no dey drink maya dey take read my post oooo?

forgiveness:



Let me sound it clear to you. Kayode and Iheanacho are not going through THE SAME PATCH.

Iheanacho is under-performing and not making day squad matches but Kayode is performing and making day squad matches if fit.

Iheanacho is thinking about British passport and doesn't mind to play with academy boys but Kayode despite having few playing time has requested to move to where he can play.

It will be foolish and sentimental of me to pretend Kayode is not performing in the role he was played. Yes, he was played mostly as SS or RW in most games he came on to play. So, far he has 3 or 4 assists to his credit and he has won MOTM and la liga team of week. That was even in the game he played for 90 minutes.


I have watched both played with my two koro koro eyes and I can tell who is under performing and performing. S0 far Iheanacho is under performing and if he does not improve, I sorry.

If you like tell me I am bias till tomorrow, it is not new to me.


I have said many things here but people called me names but I don't care and refused to be infected with low thinking syndrome caused by fear of victimization and false accusation. Gbam. Till tomorrow I say what I see. If you like call me mr bias or sentiment.

Tomorrow you go hear from Kayode why he wan leave Girona. Na there we go know who dey give excuses.


Now, claiming I am bringing down Kelechi even in the face of reality is the biggest sentiment on your part.


If I may ask, How many matches of Kayode and Iheanacho you don watch this season to conclude they are in the same path?

Which roles did Kayode play this seeason? I know you don't have an answer without googling.

No comment.... trying to engage you and argue is like trying to change stone to water. Enjoy ur view. But deep inside of you, you know what you getting at.

Sorry to take you in two parts.
Kayode was given a chance. And I’m sure Rohr saw him well enough in camp. Respect the coach’s decision.

forgiveness:



If KC is not doing well in his club but he still gets the chance to play for the SE and 'performs', how do you know Kayode will not perform better in GWG if given the chance though he has not scored 'this' season since club performance is not the yardstick for call into D SE?

You claimed in your first post that Kelechi is perfoming in the GWG hence he deserves to be called but I asked how do you know Kayode will not perform better if given the same CHANCE in the GWG?

Unfortunately, you began with an attack instead of given a more cogent and reasonable answer.


Now, let me ask you, with all the his performances that earned him goals and individual awards that he won last season how many chances was he given to play?

Someone even said Onyekuru performed better than Kayode with the few chances he got. Perhaps, we have forgotten so soon how Kayode snatched the ball and gave a through pass to free Iheanacho on one on one with the goalkeeper against Senegal that salvaged a draw after Iheanacho scored that penalty.

That was even his first match in GWG and he didn't spent up to 15 minutes to rescue a point as a SS.

Is that not performace?

Based on your first question, the reality on ground never favored Kayode because when he performed he was NEVER NEVER NEVER GIVEN A CHANCE and that has rendered the second question inconsequential. EOD

However, where did you read me make case for Kayode to be called? I hope u no dey drink maya dey take read my post oooo?

safarigirl:
if you want to make a case for Kayode, keep Kelechi's name out of your mouth

The mere fact that you continually compare them is testament that Kelechi is the STANDARD Kayode will have to reach to be considered Super Eagles material.

There are levels to this shiiit nigga

this is just the truth.

daveP:
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cc: joseph1013

It would be highly discourteous of me not to acknowledge you guys with the above. I love you all (I know true love requires deep knowledge but at some level I think and feel I know you guys because you guys love what I love). We are a great team and together we deserve commendation.

Mickael2 I can't help being optimistic about the team. If I don't set such high hopes there won't be the THRILL of either success or crushing disappointment (heartbreak is sweet too in its bitterness) for me but I acknowledge your balancing critical opinions as well as that of others WHOSE CRITICISMS ARE WELL FOUNDED. Truth is I am known as a critique ooo, in fact l and intend to criticize less but just I rarely criticise SE like a father his favourite child but every other thing in Nigeria ehn, if I criticize am you go fear. Respect Bro

God bless your hearts and keep you all.

I see there's been lots of activities on the thread.... over 20 pages and counting ..wow!

I've finally given up on catching on with the over 2 pages of mentions on my list.
I hail una oh!

Thesupernerd you're really back for good? Abi na flashing you dey do? Welcome

For those who nominated me as the most annoying, critical, etc ...I'm sorry, I can't help it.
I am a realist to a fault. Changing who I am at my age means death.
You're stuck with me forever , quite unfortunate.

Wish I had the chance to vote but that one don pass .

Good evening and happy New Year to us all.

Joebie:
You are not being logical.
There are many what IFs.
It makes no sense to drop a player who is performing for your team just on the ground that he is not performing for his club.

If we go by club performance, we will not have a team. However a player have to earn his invite either by club performance or SE performance. Kayode is a striker. He needs to score first. Today I don’t support Tammy because he is not performing. KC is ahead of Tammy, because he is in the team and has shown he is relevant. You can as well make an excuse for every player with your What Ifs

How do one gets invited into the SE in the first place?

Joebie:
Sorry to take you in two parts.
Kayode was given a chance. And I’m sure Rohr saw him well enough in camp. Respect the coach’s decision.

Why are you not telling this to those cursing Leicester city's coaches for not playing Iheanacho?

oh! i remember I am among Nigerians full of sentiments.

forgiveness:


then why ask inconsequential questions?

I repeat Kayode was NEVER NEVER NEVER GIVEN A CHANCE. EOD

So,It is better you keep mute since you do not know nada.

it is you who should keep mute rather than littering this thread with idiotic comparisons.

Kayode was given a chance EOD. If you are now basing chances on whetger it was watched or not, na you dey change narrative.

Long and short is: did he play? Yes, did he make any impact? No. He has racked up at least 120 minutes with the Super Eagles and 0 goals.

Please, this is 2018, stop crying about things you cannot change. It is not Kelechi's fault that your brother cannot seal a place in SE

I have said it here that we should not expect Leicester to play in a way that will favor KC but it’s always the other way round. KC has to fit into the coach’s philosophy, else move on

forgiveness:


Why are you not telling this to those cursing Leicester city's coaches for not playing Iheanacho?

oh! i remember I am among Nigerians full of sentiments.

Joebie:
I have said it here that we should not expect Leicester to play in a way that will favor KC but it’s always the other way round. KC has to fit into the coach’s philosophy, else move on

no just mind am. He must grab at anything when his argument is sinking, na so he dey do

safarigirl:
it is you who should keep mute rather than littering this thread with idiotic comparisons.

Kayode was given a chance EOD. If you are now basing chances on whetger it was watched or not, na you dey change narrative.

Long and short is: did he play? Yes, did he make any impact? No. He has racked up at least 120 minutes with the Super Eagles and 0 goals.

Please, this is 2018, stop crying about things you cannot change. It is not Kelechi's fault that your brother cannot seal a place in SE

When I said you are just a babbler and needed to keep mute, you thought I was joking.

Now, why are groaning, gnashing and cursing Guardiola, Leicester city's Coaches, Fans and even the whole club for not given Iheanacho chance if you had answers for one you don't call your brother as seen from the bolded ?

Don't you think you have lost it if what is bolded up there is also applicable to Iheancho before you just open your mouth and start yanning anyhow without thinking?

At least, use your brain small.


However, if You assume Kayode is my brother because he is YORUBA and you think you are superior to that particular tribe. Girl, you must be an ignoramus.

terzurum5:

A valid question for our candid considerations Sir. I think this is another area we need to deliberate on seriously and make recommendations to the appropriate quarters.

What can we do to improve on poor spectators in our stands during matches?
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This is a a very critical question that may take something akin to writing a monogragh to answer.

I will try keep it as brief as possible.

To bring fans to the stadium and encourage league patronage, the right structures must be put in place, from bottom up.

Club structure
Looking at the organogram of our league clubs, its quite sad what you have is an elaborate civil service and political structure. Yiu basically have the potus like CEO who is in charge of virtually everything about the club (transfers, players/coaches recruitment, salaries, scouting, marketing etc). I will be hard pressed if any Nigerian club have a director of football, media consultant, head of operations, chief scout, brand manager etc. Club CEOs are like sole administrators in Nigeria.
If I wasthe CEO of an Npfl clubside, my first appointment will be a director of football and brand manager.
Without structures like these anchored by an active board, our clubsides won't have the human resources to drive home any clear cut vision.

quality of the football
This is a broad topic. Many things c8me into play to have an improved level of football. Facilities, technology, coaches, agents, players, renumeration ....
I will pick on Nigerian players and their agents. The lack of professionalism by Npfl players and their agents stinks to high heavens.
Npfl players sign contracts wuth the caveat that they can leave anytime an offer for trial abroad comes up. The clubs themselves are handicapped , they cannot plan for a season depending on any player because he can leave for trial any minute. How can you have decent football standard if you can loose a key player on your way to a crucial game?
Stephen Obey nearly snookered Mfm last season when he disappeared suddenly.

Branding

Npfl clubs must get their branding sorted. People should start thinking outside the box. Mushroom companies buy slots on radio to advertise their agbo and jedi jedi bitters. But big Npfl clubs are not heard of in their states. No radio/tv programs to engage the fans .
I was passing through a particular stadium the other day and I noticed they wrote their fixture list in the up coming season on a chalk board. No brand appeal whatsoever. A freaking chalk board? How much is an electronic display board?
Oh my goodness.
Let me stop before I totally loose it.

forgiveness:




At least, use your brain small.


However, if You assume Kayode is my brother because he is YORUBA and you think you are superior to that particular tribe. Girl, you must be an ignoramus.

chief this is wrong on so many levels. no matter how heated an argument it, it does not have to degenerate to insults. She has not in her comments insinuated superiority to any tribe, why insult her on it. You have always held your own with good points without using such words.

Throwback to Shooting star's CAF CL game against a north Africa team in Lagos 30 years ago!

Humility017:

awwww...that's a good move...
provided he gets to play weekly....and still gets his British passport...

I pray nothing blocks the move

SMH bitterly!

Oasis007:


SMH bitterly!

even if you smile in honey.....it is a good move bro.