safarigirl:
what you wrote is filled with hate and intolerance and no true Christian should even engage such a hateful post.

Many Saints had close allies in Muslims. Friends even, but you come here to deride Islam and Muslims simply because they do not share your beliefs

Truly, you are no better than Boko Haram and ISIS. People like you who think they have Jesus, but have no love for their fellow humans are the most delusional Christians. You cannot be in Jesus if you practice hate and intolerance

Where is the hate in what I wrote?

If you say what I wrote is filled with HATE, then what will you call the directive given to Muslims by Allah in the Quran as seen below?

Quran (48:29) - Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah ; and those with him are forceful against the disbelievers, merciful among themselves.


Sahih Muslim (2167) - "Allah's Messenger said: Do not greet the Jews and the Christians before they greet you and when you meet any one of them on the roads force him to go to the narrowest part of it."

Quran (5:51) - "O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people."


Sahih Bukhari 1:8:427

When the last moment of the life of Allah's Apostle came he started putting his 'Khamisa' on his face and when he felt hot and short of breath he took it off his face and said, "May Allah curse the Jews and Christians for they built the places of worship at the graves of their Prophets." The Prophet was warning (Muslims) of what those had done.


Ibn Kathir v.2 p.213 - No believer shall kill any believer for any non-believer. Nor shall he help any non-believer against a believer.

Quran (3:28) - "Let not the believers Take for friends or helpers Unbelievers rather than believers: if any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah: except by way of precaution, that ye may Guard yourselves from them..."

Quran (53:29) - "Therefore shun those who turn away from Our Message and desire nothing but the life of this world."

Quran (8:39) - "And fight with them until there is no more fitna (disorder, unbelief) and religion is all for Allah"

enilove:
I think majority ( 85%) of those who call themselves Christians are not diff from other unbelievers.

I wonder how on earth they gave the child of the devil an audience in the first place.
How can such a person just wake and starts to tell us that tithing is wrong.

He is working for the devil to pull down the church of God, nothing more.

Is tithing all what the church of God is about to you?

The wise man listens to everything, but is selective of what he chooses to believe; the wise man doesnt throw the baby and the bath water away.

oglalasioux:


So moslems worship a different God from the Christian God? You'll be worse than Boko Haram if given the chance.

Yes,muslim don't worship Jehovah, The I Am That I Am.

alBHAGDADI:
Where is the hate in what I wrote?

If you say what I wrote is filled with HATE, then what will you call the directive given to Muslims by Allah in the Quran as seen below?

Quran (48:29) - Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah ; and those with him are forceful against the disbelievers, merciful among themselves.


Sahih Muslim (2167) - "Allah's Messenger said: Do not greet the Jews and the Christians before they greet you and when you meet any one of them on the roads force him to go to the narrowest part of it."

Quran (5:51) - "O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people."


Sahih Bukhari 1:8:427

When the last moment of the life of Allah's Apostle came he started putting his 'Khamisa' on his face and when he felt hot and short of breath he took it off his face and said, "May Allah curse the Jews and Christians for they built the places of worship at the graves of their Prophets." The Prophet was warning (Muslims) of what those had done.


Ibn Kathir v.2 p.213 - No believer shall kill any believer for any non-believer. Nor shall he help any non-believer against a believer.

Quran (3:28) - "Let not the believers Take for friends or helpers Unbelievers rather than believers: if any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah: except by way of precaution, that ye may Guard yourselves from them..."

Quran (53:29) - "Therefore shun those who turn away from Our Message and desire nothing but the life of this world."

Quran (8:39) - "And fight with them until there is no more fitna (disorder, unbelief) and religion is all for Allah"

selective reading

I could also pull out verses in the Bible that support hate.

Kaybmal100:



I laugh u bros....I think this brainwash refers to christians....dogmatic people

sharap man

careytommy7:


See another antichrist

Anti Christ in your narrow bigoted mind!

alBHAGDADI:

2. Says a Muslim can make heaven without Jesus


37:03


Says if a Muslim loves God and his neighbor, he won't need Jesus Christ to make heaven. He quoted Luke 10:25-28


25 On one occasion an expert in the law stood up to test Jesus. “Teacher,” he asked, “what must I do to inherit eternal life?”

26 “What is written in the Law?” he replied. “How do you read it?”

27 He answered, “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind’[c]; and, ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’[d]”

28 “You have answered correctly,” Jesus replied. “Do this and you will live.”



Truly, Jesus made that statement and I will prove to you why even though that statement might seem like an alternative other than Jesus as the way to God, you still can't follow that 'alternative' without ending up as his follower. Freeze is trying to use that statement as a way of saying that Jesus is not the only way to God and that there are other ways e.g Muhammad and perhaps other Biblical prophets before Jesus.

Now, if loving your neighbor and God is an alternative way of making heaven and that a Muslim can make heaven without Jesus (i.e if he follows that way), let's see if such a person can follow that way and still remain a Muslim.

First and foremost, who is your neighbor? Merriam-Webster Dictionary defined it to mean one living or located near another. The person living next to you, be it Christian, Jews, Muslim, Buddhist, Pagan, Atheist etc is your neighbor.

Now, how does the Quran which a Muslim believes in tells him to treat his neighbor?



Quran (48:29) - Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah ; and those with him are forceful against the disbelievers, merciful among themselves.


Sahih Muslim (2167) - "Allah's Messenger said: Do not greet the Jews and the Christians before they greet you and when you meet any one of them on the roads force him to go to the narrowest part of it."

Quran (5:51) - "O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people."


Sahih Bukhari 1:8:427

When the last moment of the life of Allah's Apostle came he started putting his 'Khamisa' on his face and when he felt hot and short of breath he took it off his face and said, "May Allah curse the Jews and Christians for they built the places of worship at the graves of their Prophets." The Prophet was warning (Muslims) of what those had done.


Ibn Kathir v.2 p.213 - No believer shall kill any believer for any non-believer. Nor shall he help any non-believer against a believer.

Quran (3:28) - "Let not the believers Take for friends or helpers Unbelievers rather than believers: if any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah: except by way of precaution, that ye may Guard yourselves from them..."

Quran (53:29) - "Therefore shun those who turn away from Our Message and desire nothing but the life of this world."

Quran (8:39) - "And fight with them until there is no more fitna (disorder, unbelief) and religion is all for Allah"



How can you be a Muslim and make heaven when being a Muslim means you still believe in the Quran verses above that can make you brutal to your neighbor?


There's no way you can love your neighbor without actually taking Jesus as your Lord and Savior. He is the only teacher that has ever told mankind to forgive those who offend them. He's the only one that has given a guideline on how to love your neighbor which includes forgiving them when they offend you.


If you forgive your neighbor who offends you, it means you are actually following the way of Jesus (Mark11:24). If you pray for those who persecute you, it means you are following the way set by Jesus (Mathew5:44). If you help your neighbor without hoping to get a favor in return, it means you are actually following the example set by the good Samaritan in the parable told by the same Jesus (Luke 10:25-37). The moment you believe his words that says ''love your neighbor'' and you follow his guidelines which are the only way towards achieving that, then it means you BELIEVE in him thereby making you a candidate of eternal life.


John 3:16
For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever BELIEVES in him shall not perish but have ETERNAL LIFE.



The moment you start to love Christians, Muslims, Jews, Buddhists, Atheists, Pagans etc, you start to incline towards the teachings and ways of Jesus Christ and his disciples in Hebrews 12:14 which says ''Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord''. Read the verse carefully, you will see that you can see God without making peace with all men.


To be able to love your neighbor perfectly, you have to have Christ in you. Without Christ in you and you in him, you wont be able to achieve that.


John 15:5

I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.


Without Jesus you can't produce the fruit of the spirit which is Love and other things that can enable you love your neighbor.


Galatians 5:22-23

22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law.


Now, can you be a Muslim and still follow peace with all men? Going by the Quran verses above, the answer is NO. See what Muhammad even told Muslims.


Sahih al-Bukhari Book 52 Hadith 176
"The Day of Resurrection will not arrive until the Moslems make war against the Jews and kill them, and until a Jew hiding behind a rock and tree, and the rock and tree will say: 'Oh Moslem, oh servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him!'"

Sahih Muslim 19:4366

It has been narrated by 'Umar b. al-Khattib that he heard the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) say: I will expel the Jews and Christians from the Arabian Peninsula and will not leave any but Muslim.


Where is the love for their Jewish and Christian neighbors? Can you now see that a person who remains a Muslim and follows the teachings of Muhammad can never make heaven cos those teachings can never make him love his neighbors?

If there's any Hell I' am quite sure you'll be there. Your Bible at 2 Corinthians 6:14 also said *Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?".

Let me know what makes this better than the Quran's:-

Sahih Muslim (2167) - "Allah's Messenger said: Do not greet the Jews and the Christians before they greet you and when you meet any one of them on the roads force him to go to the narrowest part of it."

Quran (5:51) - "O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people".


Sahih Bukhari 1:8:427
"When the last moment of the life of Allah's Apostle came he started putting his 'Khamisa' on his face and when he felt hot and short of breath he took it off his face and said, "May Allah curse the Jews and Christians for they built the places of worship at the graves of their Prophets." The Prophet was warning (Muslims) of what those had done".

You religious people are the worst disease facing humanity.

alBHAGDADI:
God has only one way to him. That way is through Jesus Christ. Any other way is the way to HELL.

word

That was is what the WHITE MAN told you!

Ladyhippolyta88:
Other religions do not believe that God can have a child they believe that the followers of their God are all his children.Remember not all Christians believe in the holy trinity,the followers of Arianism who were at the council of Nicea disagreed in the father,son and holy spirit doctrine and they have biblical verses to back it up.

The argument is not about Trinity. Now, you say other religions do not believe that God has a Son. Shouldn't that tell you that we do not worship the same God?

See what the Bible said of anyone who says God doesn't have a son.

1 John 2:22
And who is a liar? Anyone who says that Jesus is not the Christ. Anyone who denies the Father and the Son is an ANTICHRIST.

musicwriter:


If there's any Hell I' am quite sure you'll be there. Your Bible at 2 Corinthians 6:14 also said *Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?".

Let me know what makes this better than the Quran's:-

Sahih Muslim (2167) - "Allah's Messenger said: Do not greet the Jews and the Christians before they greet you and when you meet any one of them on the roads force him to go to the narrowest part of it."

Quran (5:51) - "O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people."


Sahih Bukhari 1:8:427
When the last moment of the life of Allah's Apostle came he started putting his 'Khamisa' on his face and when he felt hot and short of breath he took it off his face and said, "May Allah curse the Jews and Christians for they built the places of worship at the graves of their Prophets." The Prophet was warning (Muslims) of what those had done*.

You religious people are the worst disease facing humanity.

You obviously know nothing about what you quoted. As a matter of fact, what you quoted buttressed my point that Muslims and Christians do not worship the same God. We Christians are not to blend our religion in anyway with Islam or any other religion. That is what the verse is speaking of. It doesn't say we shouldn't be friends with others.

alBHAGDADI:
Stop confusing yourself. All the prophets in the Bible called on the name YAHWEH, some of them even had his name as part of theirs e.g JeremiYAH, ELIYAH etc

If you believe those prophets were also for Muslims, then tell a Muslim to shout YAHWEH AKBAR in a mosque and see what his fellow Muslims will do to him

Sometimes I marvel at the sub-human level of reasoning being displayed by christians, it is really shocking to imagine that my fellow christians lack elementary intelligence.



How can you discriminate between two religions based on language?, judaism and christianity originated from israel, hence the hebrew name for God would be different from that of islam which gained revelation in arabia.



Hebrew and Arabic may be similar,but the alphabet and pronunciation are diffent. Its like someone saying that a yoruba man isnt a christian because he calls God "Olodumare" or "Olorun" instead of yahweh. You see how irrational that is?.

EVarn:
You do know that millions of people were slaughtered by the hebrews(commanded by God) in the battles to conquer canaan.

Women were taken as slaves,others were raped and infants were dashed against stones(Psalm 137), as commanded by God. Even in many cases, entire cities were wiped out,down to their livestock(I hope you know the story of king saul and his failure to wipe out the neighbouring canaanite city as commanded by God).


What is the difference between the barbaric mosaic laws and some of the commandments given by mohammed?, So islamic terrorism is 21st century while bible inspired terrorism is olden days?

Yes, the hebrew slaughtered people as commanded by the god Yahweh, therefore christians
and jews are no better than Islamic terrorists currently killing and destroying lives all over
the globe.

If we go back far in time your forefathers were involved in ritual killings so you are not
better than the modern day ritualist and slave traders and people should stop criticising
the ritualists.

For anyone willing to use their brain, the difference between the two is that one is still
a threat to every human life on earth while the other is just a myth/story for kids.

alBHAGDADI:
Do you know the horrible sins committed by the people whom God told the Israelites to wipe out? Sins like bestiality, baby sacrifice, incest, homosexuality, paganism, lawlessness and so many evil. Their time was up and so God used the Israelites to judge them. These same Israel also got judged when they sinned. When they sinned, God used pagan nations to punish them as well.

You lack knowledge of the Bible, that's why you are looking for justification for Islam's terror of old and present. Muhammad was never on the defensive side. He was always on the offensive trying to Islamize everyone. That's the same thing we see in his followers of today.

is the western world not committing the same crime today. so , going by your logic, can we say Allah is using them to judge the terrorist victims too...


ur moniker sef is an indication of radicalism.

Abraham Sacrifices His Son
It had been close to ten years since Abraham had left his wife and baby in Mecca in the care of God. After a two month journey, he was surprised to find Mecca a lot different than how he had left it. The joy of reunion was soon interrupted by a vision which was to be the ultimate test of his faith. God commanded Abraham through a dream to sacrifice his son, the son he had had after years of prayers and had just met after a decade of separation.

We know from the Quran that the child to be sacrificed was Ishmael, as God, when giving the glad tidings of the birth of Isaac to Abraham and Sarah, also gave the glad tidings of a grandson, Jacob (Israel):

"…But we gave her glad tidings of Isaac, and after him, of Jacob." (Quran 11:71)

Similarly, in the biblical verse Genesis 17:19, Abraham was promised:

"Your wife Sarah shall bear you a son whose name shall be Isaac. I will establish my covenant with him as an everlasting covenant [and] with his seed after him."

Because God promised to give Sarah a child from Abraham and grandchildren from that child, it is neither logically nor practically possible for God to command Abraham to sacrifice Isaac, since God neither breaks his promise, nor is He the "author of confusion."

(Get that? This is part of the indepth wisdom of the Holy Quran, Allahu ta'ala would not have mentioned the grandson after the son, when the son was meant to be sacrificed)

Although Isaac’s name is explicitly mention as the one who was to be sacrificed in Genesis 22:2, we learn from other Biblical contexts that it is clear interpolation, and the one to be slaughtered was Ishmael.

"Thine Only Son"
In the verses of Genesis 22, God commands Abraham to sacrifice his only son. As all scholars of Islam, Judaism and Christianity agree, Ishmael was born before Isaac. From this, it would not be fit to call Isaac the only son of Abraham.

It is true that Judeo-Christian a scholars often argue that since Ishmael was born to a concubine, he is not a legitimate son. However, we have already mentioned earlier that according to Judaism itself, the gifting of concubines from barren wives to their husbands in order to produce offspring was a common, valid and acceptable occurrence, and the child produced by the concubine would be claimed by the wife of the father[1], enjoying all rights as her, the wife’s, own child, including inheritance. Furthermore, they would receive a double the share of other children, even if they were "hated"[2].

In addition to this, it is inferred in the Bible that Sarah herself would regard a child born to Hagar as a rightful heir. Knowing that Abraham had been promised that his seed would fill the land between the Nile and the Euphrates (Genesis 15:18) from his own body (Genesis 15:4), she offered Hagar to Abraham in order that she be the means to fulfill this prophecy. She said,

"Behold now, the Lord hath restrained me from bearing: I pray thee, go in unto my maid; it may be that I may obtain children by her." (Genesis 16:2)

This is also similar to Leah and Rachel, the wives of Jacob son of Isaac, giving their maids to Jacob to produce offspring (Genesis 30:3, 6. 7, 9-13). Their children were Dan, Nepthali, Gad and Asher, who were from the twelve sons of Jacob, the fathers of the twelve tribes of Israelites, and therefore valid heirs[3].

From this, we understand that Sarah believed that a child born to Hagar would be a fulfillment of the prophecy given to Abraham, and be as if he was born to her own self. Thus, according to this fact alone, Ishmael is not illegitimate, but a rightful heir.

God Himself regards Ishmael as a valid heir, for, in numerous places, the Bible mentions that Ishmael is a "seed" of Abraham. For example, in Genesis 21:13:

"And also of the son of the bondwoman will I make a nation, because he is thy seed.

There are many other reasons which prove that it was Ishmael and not Isaac who was to be sacrificed, and God willing, a separate article will be dedicated to this issue.

To continue with the account, Abraham consulted his son to see if he understood what he was commanded by God,

"So We gave him the good news of a forbearing son. And when (his son) was old enough to help in his daily affairs, (Abraham) said: O my dear son, I have seen in a dream that I must sacrifice you. So look, what think you? He said: O my father! Do that which you are commanded. God willing, you shall find me of the patient." (Quran 37:101-102)

Indeed if a person was told by their father that they were to be killed due to a dream, it would not be taken in the best of manners. One may doubt the dream as well as the sanity of the person, but Ishmael knew the station of his father. The pious son of a pious father was committed to submit to God. Abraham took his son to the place where he was to be sacrificed and laid him face down. For this reason, God has described them in the most beautiful of words, painting a picture of the essence of submission; one which brings tears to the eyes:

"And when they both submitted (to the command of God), and he (Abraham) laid him (Ishmael) face down upon his forehead (in order to be sacrificed)." (Quran 37:103)

Just as Abraham’s knife was poised to descend, a voice stopped him

"We called to him: O Abraham: You have indeed fulfilled the vision. Lo! Thus do We reward the good. Lo! That verily was a clear test." (Quran 37:104-106)

Indeed, it was the greatest test of all, the sacrificing of his only child, one born to him after he had reached an old age and years of longing for progeny. Here, Abraham showed his willingness to sacrifice all his belongings for God, and for this reason, he was designated a leader of all humanity, one whom God blessed with a progeny of Prophets.

"And when his God tested Abraham with various commands, and he proved true to each one." He (God) said, indeed I have made you a leader of humanity. He (Abraham) said (requesting of God), ‘and from my progeny." (Quran 2:124)

Ishmael was ransomed with a ram,

‘…then We redeemed him with a momentous sacrifice.’ (Quran 37:107)

It is this epitome of submission and trust in God which hundreds of millions of Muslims reenact every year during the days of Hajj, a day called Yawm-un-Nahr – The Day of Sacrifice, or Eid-ul-Adhaa - or the Celebration of Sacrifice.

Abraham returned to Palestine, and upon doing so, he was visited by angels who give him and Sarah the good news of a son, Isaac,

"Lo! We bring you good tidings of a boy possessing wisdom." (Quran 15:53)

It is at this time that he is also told about the destruction of the people of Lot.

Source:
https://www.islamreligion.com/articles/298/story-of-abraham-part-6/

safarigirl:
selective reading

I could also pull out verses in the Bible that support hate.

D you know what they called selective reading? It is when you pick a verse out of context to justify whatever you are up to. One can do that by ignoring the previous verse(s) or preceding ones. If you do that, you might end up relaying the wrong message. That singled out verse can only be understood in company of the previous or preceding verse(s).

In the case of the Quran verses I quoted, check the previous and preceding verses, you will see that they in no way nullify the singled out verse's context. You might even find more brutality in those verses.

Chiedu4Trump:

God forbid that i bow to their God.
We don't share the same God.

Jesus raises the dead, their god no fit heal

Lol...so it's a competition of gods now ehn! How myopic you are young man. So according to your argument there are plenty Gods for the Christians atink because not only Jesus raised the dead in th Bible. 1. The widow of Zarephath’s son (1 Kings 17:17–24). Elijah the prophet raised the widow of Zarephath’s son from the dead.
2. The Shunammite woman’s son (2 Kings 4:18–37). The prophet Elisha raised the Shunammite woman’s son from the dead.
3. Tabitha (Acts 9:36–43). Tabitha, whose Greek name was Dorcas, was a believer who lived in the coastal city of Joppa. Her resurrection was performed by the apostle Peter. Dorcas was known for “always doing good and helping the poor” (verse 36). When she died, the believers in Joppa were filled with sadness. They laid the body in an upper room and sent for Peter, who was in the nearby town of Lydda (verses 37–38). Peter came at once and met with the disciples in Joppa, who showed him the clothing that Dorcas had made for the widows there (verse 39). Peter sent them all out of the room and prayed. Then “turning toward the dead woman, he said, ‘Tabitha, get up.’ She opened her eyes, and seeing Peter she sat up. He took her by the hand and helped her to her feet” (verses 40–41). The overjoyed believers received their resurrected friend, and the news spread quickly throughout the city. “Many people believed in the Lord” as a result (verse 42).
These are just few....so are we to conclude, according to you that all these men are godlike?
Idiota!!!

victorazyvictor:


Christians and Muslims don't worship the same God, get that today.

I am not trying to convince you, I am merely stating a fact.

nairavsdollars:
I heard he has over 400,000 members in his church FreetheSheeple located at Victoria Island

alBHAGDADI:
You obviously know nothing about what you quoted. As a matter of fact, what you quoted buttressed my point that Muslims and Christians do not worship the same God. We Christians are not to blend our religion in anyway with Islam or any other religion. That is what the verse is speaking of. It doesn't say we shouldn't be friends with others.

Your Bible said "Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?"

How does it interpret that you should be friends with non-believers?

alBHAGDADI:
Prove it otherwise then.

Prove that Jesus is the only way to God
And God is the Way to heaven
And heaven truly exist
Prove them
And don't cum quoting scriptures from the bible because u will have to prove that the scripture from the bible are true which i know u can never do

EVarn:
I am not trying to convince you, I am merely stating a fact.

My brother we are not.
Is just like that movie story line "Clash of the Titan" Hedis and Zeus

EVarn:
You do know that millions of people were slaughtered by the hebrews(commanded by God) in the battles to conquer canaan.

Women were taken as slaves,others were raped and infants were dashed against stones(Psalm 137), as commanded by God. Even in many cases, entire cities were wiped out,down to their livestock(I hope you know the story of king saul and his failure to wipe out the neighbouring canaanite city as commanded by God).


What is the difference between the barbaric mosaic laws and some of the commandments given by mohammed?, So islamic terrorism is 21st century while bible inspired terrorism is olden days?

@bold this is the kind of arguments that adults should chastise kids if they ever use it.
I blame this on the failure of our educational system for churning out educated illiterates.

Mr. A: ISIS just beheaded a man for rejecting Islam.
Evarn: Shut up you hypocrite, Moses also commanded Jews to kill apostates.

Then I ask what is my business with jews or the Moses?
How does the action of a man who lived thousands of years ago justify those of Islamic terrorists
causing pain and misery?

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This thread should be titled hypocrisy. Mr Op wants to portray Islam as the violent religion without engaging in the context of the supposed violent texts, but when confronted with similar Bible verses, he cowers and asks for context to be taken into consideration.
He comes in talking about tolerant Christianity, but insults people in almost every post he makes on NL. His profile is as offensive as it gets. NO human should endure such a person even as neighbour. He reeks of hatred, bigotry and senseless religious fanaticism.


Lastly, if Mr OP sees himself as a representative of Christianity today, then I am sorry for Christians like him. Uncouth, insulting, devoid of intellectual presentation and quite simply an empty barrel.

alBHAGDADI:

Where is the love for their Jewish and Christian neighbors? Can you now see that a person who remains a Muslim and follows the teachings of Muhammad can never make heaven cos those teachings can never make him love his neighbors?

Let us quote the Bible too

Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness?

2 Corinthians 6:14

If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying, “Let us go and worship other gods” (gods that neither you nor your ancestors have known, gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other), do not yield to them or listen to them. Show them no pity. Do not spare them or shield them. You must certainly put them to death. Your hand must be the first in putting them to death, and then the hands of all the people.

Deuteronomy 13 6 -9

Do not think that I came to bring peace on the earth; I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I came to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law; and a man’s enemies will be the members of his household

Matthew 10:34-36

For God said, 'Honour your father and mother' and 'Anyone who curses their father or mother is to be put to death.

Matthew 15:4

Therealev:
My take on this is; Bleep RELIGIONS. As far as I am concerned, nobody has the blueprint to heaven (if there is a place called such). Non of the religions are either right or wrong, until someone comes to give us how and what really went down, nobody has the right to criticize another. Everyone is right or wrong in their own way, until we personally find our own way. Na all this differences dey cause havoc to humanity in the first place.

Exactly
Nobody knows which is right or wrong
We just follow blindly
Muslim believe their God they make references from the qoran.
Christians believe THEIR God by making references from the bible.
Non of the 2 Gods have appeared to clear the air.
So what gives u the right to tell which is the true way.

EVarn:
Sometimes I marvel at the sub-human level of reasoning being displayed by christians, it is really shocking to imagine that my fellow christians lack elementary intelligence.



How can you discriminate between two religions based on language?, judaism and christianity originated from israel, hence the hebrew name for God would be different from that of islam which gained revelation in arabia.



Hebrew and Arabic may be similar,but the alphabet and pronunciation are diffent. Its like someone saying that a yoruba man isnt a christian because he calls God "Olodumare" or "Olorun" instead of yahweh. You see how irrational that is?.

Let me prove it to you that you are the one with sub-human level of reasoning.

You claim Yahweh is Hebrew language, which it is not. It is God's name. Now, based on your argument, Allah must be the Arabic equivalent of the Hebrew name. Let's move on...

Muslims claim Allah means God. If you ask them to tell you the name of the God, they go mute. That's cos they know the error in that. Look at the Islamic creed below and see the explanation I will give.

There is no god but Allah. Muhammad is the messenger of God

Now, if Allah is the Arabic word for god, then the above witten will clearly mean...

There is no god but god. Muhammad is the messenger of God

Does that make any sense to even a toddler?

Muslims know that their god's name is Allah, that's why they will never mention YAHWEH in their mosque. Christians also know that they have no business with allah. It is only Muslims and some confused or better yet Satanists who go about trying to equate both religions.

frosbel2:
There is ONLY GOD of All and he is the God of both Muslims and Christians.

Bigots need to stop dividing us with man made religions and let us be.

It is this bigotry and intolerance that has caused wars and bloodshed over the past centuries.

Could you please confirm your bolded statement with verses from Bible or even Quaran . Thank you.

fvck religion and fvck this thread

The man is only exposing falsehood in Christianity. The Bible is clear with its message, pastors are busy terrorizing gullible Christians with some many fake doctrines. Let them be exposed. Jess exposed the pharisees

alBHAGDADI:
Do you know the horrible sins committed by the people whom God told the Israelites to wipe out? Sins like bestiality, baby sacrifice, incest, homosexuality, paganism, lawlessness and so many evil. Their time was up and so God used the Israelites to judge them. These same Israel also got judged when they sinned. When they sinned, God used pagan nations to punish them as well.

You lack knowledge of the Bible, that's why you are looking for justification for Islam's terror of old and present. Muhammad was never on the defensive side. He was always on the offensive trying to Islamize everyone. That's the same thing we see in his followers of today.

The islamic extremists use this same logic to carry out their terror activities; they say they are communicating God's judgement by wiping out the infidels for unforgivable committing sins against God.

You now see the flaw in your reasoning?.



You do not know the level of my bible knowledge.

alBHAGDADI:
The argument is not about Trinity. Now, you say other religions do not believe that God has a Son. Shouldn't that tell you that we do not worship the same God?

See what the Bible said of anyone who says God doesn't have a son.

1 John 2:22
And who is a liar? Anyone who says that Jesus is not the Christ. Anyone who denies the Father and the Son is an ANTICHRIST.

Jews don't believe Jesus is the messiah but they are expecting a messiah.Muslims believe Jesus is a prophet but he is not the son of God but that does not mean that they don't relate to Jesus.About 1 john 2:22 let me tell you that Non trinitarians have enough reason not to believe that Jesus is God.And they are no anti Christ because the anti Christ is just one person.

musicwriter:


Your Bible said "Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?"

How does it interpret that you should be friends with non-believers?

The verse is telling Christians not to try to mix their religion with others. It is exactly what Daddy Freeze is trying to do. He's trying to make communion and fellowship with Muslims.

The verse didn't in anyway say we shouldn't be friends with humans based on their religion. It only states that we shouldn't make fellowship and communion with them i.e try to equate our religion to theirs.

Pls, pray for the spirit of God to guide you when reading the Bible. Without it, even simple english will be misunderstood.