Acidosis:


That's the thing, the Bible is not based on logics.

Ladyhippolyta88:
Jews don't believe Jesus is the messiah but they are expecting a messiah.Muslims believe Jesus is a prophet but he is not the son of God but that does not mean that they don't relate to Jesus.About 1 john 2:22 let me tell you that Non trinitarians have enough reason not to believe that Jesus is God.And they are no anti Christ because the anti Christ is just one person.

oglalasioux:


So moslems worship a different God from the Christian God? You'll be worse than Boko Haram if given the chance.

EVarn:
I dont think he is wrong in his claims that muslims and christians worship the same God,and that not only christians will make heaven. This demonization of islam by christians is largely due to ignorance and hypocrisy. A large part of the bible's old testament contains the mosaic laws that in present day equals the height of barbarism, sociopathy and human right violations; same with the quran. So both books are two sides of the same coin. Hence, christians should stop bringing violent and hardline verses from the quran to justify their hate, the bible is full of them too.



Infact, I think most of his submissions are very logical.

jiggaz:
Nice points OP... Freeze is actually a motivational speaker. He preaches on Cool Fm every Sunday. Anybody that doesn't acknowledge Christ as the only way to Salvation is actually a Satanist. How can Christians & Muslims worship the same God??

Actually Freeze is also trying to push the New Age Religion that have entered the Western world. From this new age teachings of his, he will enter the Luciferian doctrine.... He knows what he is doing. This is the end of the age. The devil knew he has but little time, so he is trying to recruit as many as he can.

From the 4 points you listed above, it's so obvious that Fridge is not a believer in Christ, he is just a Church goer. And his types are the ones that brings bad names to Christianity. But not to worry, his types will be weeded out of the kingdom on that glorious resurrection morning.

EVarn:
The islamic extremists use this same logic to carry out their terror activities; they say they are communicating God's judgement by wiping out the infidels for unforgivable committing sins against God.

You now see the flaw in your reasoning?.



You do not know the level of my bible knowledge.

EVarn:
I dont think he is wrong in his claims that muslims and christians worship the same God,and that not only christians will make heaven. This demonization of islam by christians is largely due to ignorance and hypocrisy. A large part of the bible's old testament contains the mosaic laws that in present day equals the height of barbarism, sociopathy and human right violations; same with the quran. So both books are two sides of the same coin. Hence, christians should stop bringing violent and hardline verses from the quran to justify their hate, the bible is full of them too.



Infact, I think most of his submissions are very logical.

Xisnin:


Yes, the hebrew slaughtered people as commanded by the god Yahweh, therefore christians
and jews are no better than Islamic terrorists currently killing and destroying lives all over
the globe.

If we go back far in time your forefathers were involved in ritual killings so you are not
better than the modern day ritualist and slave traders and people should stop criticising
the ritualists.

For anyone willing to use their brain, the difference between the two is that one is still
a threat to every human life on earth while the other is just a myth/story for kids.

alBHAGDADI:

2. Says a Muslim can make heaven without Jesus


37:03


Says if a Muslim loves God and his neighbor, he won't need Jesus Christ to make heaven. He quoted Luke 10:25-28


25 On one occasion an expert in the law stood up to test Jesus. “Teacher,” he asked, “what must I do to inherit eternal life?”

26 “What is written in the Law?” he replied. “How do you read it?”

27 He answered, “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind’[c]; and, ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’[d]”

28 “You have answered correctly,” Jesus replied. “Do this and you will live.”



Truly, Jesus made that statement and I will prove to you why even though that statement might seem like an alternative other than Jesus as the way to God, you still can't follow that 'alternative' without ending up as his follower. Freeze is trying to use that statement as a way of saying that Jesus is not the only way to God and that there are other ways e.g Muhammad and perhaps other Biblical prophets before Jesus.

Now, if loving your neighbor and God is an alternative way of making heaven and that a Muslim can make heaven without Jesus (i.e if he follows that way), let's see if such a person can follow that way and still remain a Muslim.

First and foremost, who is your neighbor? Merriam-Webster Dictionary defined it to mean one living or located near another. The person living next to you, be it Christian, Jews, Muslim, Buddhist, Pagan, Atheist etc is your neighbor.

Now, how does the Quran which a Muslim believes in tells him to treat his neighbor?



Quran (48:29) - Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah ; and those with him are forceful against the disbelievers, merciful among themselves.


Sahih Muslim (2167) - "Allah's Messenger said: Do not greet the Jews and the Christians before they greet you and when you meet any one of them on the roads force him to go to the narrowest part of it."

Quran (5:51) - "O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people."


Sahih Bukhari 1:8:427

When the last moment of the life of Allah's Apostle came he started putting his 'Khamisa' on his face and when he felt hot and short of breath he took it off his face and said, "May Allah curse the Jews and Christians for they built the places of worship at the graves of their Prophets." The Prophet was warning (Muslims) of what those had done.


Ibn Kathir v.2 p.213 - No believer shall kill any believer for any non-believer. Nor shall he help any non-believer against a believer.

Quran (3:28) - "Let not the believers Take for friends or helpers Unbelievers rather than believers: if any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah: except by way of precaution, that ye may Guard yourselves from them..."

Quran (53:29) - "Therefore shun those who turn away from Our Message and desire nothing but the life of this world."

Quran (8:39) - "And fight with them until there is no more fitna (disorder, unbelief) and religion is all for Allah"



How can you be a Muslim and make heaven when being a Muslim means you still believe in the Quran verses above that can make you brutal to your neighbor?


There's no way you can love your neighbor without actually taking Jesus as your Lord and Savior. He is the only teacher that has ever told mankind to forgive those who offend them. He's the only one that has given a guideline on how to love your neighbor which includes forgiving them when they offend you.


If you forgive your neighbor who offends you, it means you are actually following the way of Jesus (Mark11:24). If you pray for those who persecute you, it means you are following the way set by Jesus (Mathew5:44). If you help your neighbor without hoping to get a favor in return, it means you are actually following the example set by the good Samaritan in the parable told by the same Jesus (Luke 10:25-37). The moment you believe his words that says ''love your neighbor'' and you follow his guidelines which are the only way towards achieving that, then it means you BELIEVE in him thereby making you a candidate of eternal life.


John 3:16
For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever BELIEVES in him shall not perish but have ETERNAL LIFE.



The moment you start to love Christians, Muslims, Jews, Buddhists, Atheists, Pagans etc, you start to incline towards the teachings and ways of Jesus Christ and his disciples in Hebrews 12:14 which says ''Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord''. Read the verse carefully, you will see that you can see God without making peace with all men.


To be able to love your neighbor perfectly, you have to have Christ in you. Without Christ in you and you in him, you wont be able to achieve that.


John 15:5

I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.


Without Jesus you can't produce the fruit of the spirit which is Love and other things that can enable you love your neighbor.


Galatians 5:22-23

22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law.


Now, can you be a Muslim and still follow peace with all men? Going by the Quran verses above, the answer is NO. See what Muhammad even told Muslims.


Sahih al-Bukhari Book 52 Hadith 176
"The Day of Resurrection will not arrive until the Moslems make war against the Jews and kill them, and until a Jew hiding behind a rock and tree, and the rock and tree will say: 'Oh Moslem, oh servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him!'"

Sahih Muslim 19:4366

It has been narrated by 'Umar b. al-Khattib that he heard the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) say: I will expel the Jews and Christians from the Arabian Peninsula and will not leave any but Muslim.


Where is the love for their Jewish and Christian neighbors? Can you now see that a person who remains a Muslim and follows the teachings of Muhammad can never make heaven cos those teachings can never make him love his neighbors?

Alaska90:


Could you please confirm your bolded statement with verses from Bible or even Quaran . Thank you.

ivolt:


@bold this is the kind of arguments that adults should chastise kids if they ever use it.
I blame this on the failure of our educational system for churning out educated illiterates.

Do you see a link between that attack and the invasion of Iraq?

Yes, I draw a direct line between then and now. When we in the West invaded Iraq, we inadvertently unleashed the Islamic State upon ourselves and the world. It was the ultimate unintended consequence. No one could’ve foreseen it. The Islamic State was born in our invasion. That’s a fact of history that no one can change, regardless of their political persuasion. And it’s a generational reality that we’re all still learning how to do deal with.
http://taskandpurpose.com/iraq-war-documentary-every-veteran-must-see/

ivolt:

Then I ask what is my business with jews or the Moses?
How does the action of a man who lived thousands of years ago justify those of Islamic terrorists
causing pain and misery?

Nobodys:
don't say what you don't know... I also thought we worship same God and Muslims just call him Allah..until these Muslims themselves told me they don't worship same God with us....so who are we to force them to worship Jehovah?...



daddy freeze is clueless it's very obvious..he makes sense sometimes buh most times hr talks trash......well what can I say. he is trying to get his own money by gathering his own sheeps...wonder why he doesn't attack Muslims and Imams....

BetaThings:


Let us quote the Bible too



2 Corinthians 6:14



Deuteronomy 13 6 -9



Matthew 10:34-36



Matthew 15:4

ivolt:

ISIS just beheaded a man for rejecting Islam.

oglalasioux:


Whatever both religions worship obviously don't exist and is not part of the universe.

alBHAGDADI:
God has since put an end to using man to judge man. That's why Jesus said thou shall not judge''. The only man who will judge man is Jesus Christ.

alBHAGDADI:
Let me prove it to you that you are the one with sub-human level of reasoning.

You claim Yahweh is Hebrew language, which it is not. It is God's name. Now, based on your argument, Allah must be the Arabic equivalent of the Hebrew name. Let's move on...

Muslims claim Allah means God. If you ask them to tell you the name of the God, they go mute. That's cos they know the error in that. Look at the Islamic creed below and see the explanation I will give.

There is no god but Allah. Muhammad is the messenger of God

Now, if Allah is the Arabic word for god, then the above witten will clearly mean...

There is no god but god. Muhammad is the messenger of God

Does that make any sense to even a toddler?

Muslims know that their god's name is Allah, that's why they will never mention YAHWEH in their mosque. Christians also know that they have no business with allah. It is only Muslims and some confused or better yet Satanists who go about trying to equate both religions.

frosbel2:


"God intended that they would seek Him and perhaps reach out for Him and find Him, though He is not far from each one of us. ‘For in Him we live and move and have our being.’ As some of your own poets have said, ‘- We are His offspring.’ Therefore, being offspring of God, we should not think that the Divine Being is like gold or silver or stone, an image formed by man’s skill and imagination.…" - Acts 17:27-29

alBHAGDADI:
Their not believing that Jesus is God is Antichrist as well. But if they boldly say that God has not son like Islam has done, then they have openly declared that they are Antichrist.

1 John 2:22
And who is a liar? Anyone who says that Jesus is not the Christ. Anyone who denies the Father and the Son is an ANTICHRIST.

ivolt:

@bold this is the kind of arguments that adults should chastise kids if they ever use it.
I blame this on the failure of our educational system for churning out educated illiterates.
Mr. A: ISIS just beheaded a man for rejecting Islam.
Evarn: Shut up you hypocrite, Moses also commanded Jews to kill apostates.
Then I ask what is my business with jews or the Moses?
How does the action of a man who lived thousands of years ago justify those of Islamic terrorists
causing pain and misery?
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mrMeen:
should I tell you the names of Allah do you know he bears alrahman alrahim, almalik, alkudus, alsalam, malikulmulk and 99others but let me ask you this.

how do you say God in Hebrew.

Nobodys:
whatever rocks ur boat dear..... If you say there is no God then that's ur cup of tea

EVarn:
I dont think he is wrong in his claims that muslims and christians worship the same God,and that not only christians will make heaven. This demonization of islam by christians is largely due to ignorance and hypocrisy. A large part of the bible's old testament contains the mosaic laws that in present day equals the height of barbarism, sociopathy and human right violations; same with the quran. So both books are two sides of the same coin. Hence, christians should stop bringing violent and hardline verses from the quran to justify their hate, the bible is full of them too.



Infact, I think most of his submissions are very logical.

BetaThings:


So what do you do on Nairaland about Muslims?
Or you don't understand your own posts?