I have no link whatsoever with any savage in any part of the world, same can't be said of muslims who all believe that muhamad is the best of humans, that the quran, a war manual is infallible and that Islam must dominate the world. So whenever any muslim carry out a terrorist act in accordance with the quran, other muslims are guilty by association because they believe as the terrorists believe.
The sensible and the spiritually discerning can easily see he is an agent of hell on a mission..but too bad he appeals to the spiritually daft, simple and natural because they have itching ears. What a shame, they are been led astray into the ditch without even knowing. One of the greatest deception of the enemy is to fool you into thinking that you are right while leading you into were is not good. Jesus said in the last days due to folks like freeze even the very elect may also be deceived..
abbey621: Is it possible to be a Christian without being a fanatic? Is it possible to be a Muslim without being radical? We all like to think that our chosen religion is the only way and all others are wrong but if that is the case then a lot of people are going to be DISAPPOINTED! Let's analyze this logically:
1.Christians are about 2.4 Billions in the world 2. Muslims represents about 2 Billions in the world
Are you telling me our merciful God will allow 2 billion people to perish in hell fire?
For all those supposed negative quote from the Quran, you failed to mention that both the Bible and the Quran mentions God as the all merciful, that he does as he pleases and no one can question him. So is it possible that there are many ways to reach heaven? Is it possible that he merciful God will not want 2 billion people to perish in fire? Freeze might be going overboard but he does raise some valid points, if only we can analyze it with open mind instead of religious bias
There is no bias in my post. I pointed out some statements he made and showed clearly how he is wrong to have made such.
The thread is not about Hell. If you can't dispute the OP, then don't derail.
Yes, the hebrew slaughtered people as commanded by the god Yahweh, therefore christians and jews are no better than Islamic terrorists currently killing and destroying lives all over the globe.
If we go back far in time your forefathers were involved in ritual killings so you are not better than the modern day ritualist and slave traders and people should stop criticising the ritualists.
For anyone willing to use their brain, the difference between the two is that one is still a threat to every human life on earth while the other is just a myth/story for kids.
Gbam this is it,I am sure they have never heard of Ku klux khan,inquisition and others.
Says if a Muslim loves God and his neighbor, he won't need Jesus Christ to make heaven. He quoted Luke 10:25-28
25 On one occasion an expert in the law stood up to test Jesus. “Teacher,” he asked, “what must I do to inherit eternal life?”
26 “What is written in the Law?” he replied. “How do you read it?”
27 He answered, “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind’[c]; and, ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’[d]”
28 “You have answered correctly,” Jesus replied. “Do this and you will live.”
Truly, Jesus made that statement and I will prove to you why even though that statement might seem like an alternative other than Jesus as the way to God, you still can't follow that 'alternative' without ending up as his follower. Freeze is trying to use that statement as a way of saying that Jesus is not the only way to God and that there are other ways e.g Muhammad and perhaps other Biblical prophets before Jesus.
Now, if loving your neighbor and God is an alternative way of making heaven and that a Muslim can make heaven without Jesus (i.e if he follows that way), let's see if such a person can follow that way and still remain a Muslim.
First and foremost, who is your neighbor? Merriam-Webster Dictionary defined it to mean one living or located near another. The person living next to you, be it Christian, Jews, Muslim, Buddhist, Pagan, Atheist etc is your neighbor.
Now, how does the Quran which a Muslim believes in tells him to treat his neighbor?
Quran (48:29) - Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah ; and those with him are forceful against the disbelievers, merciful among themselves.
Sahih Muslim (2167) - "Allah's Messenger said: Do not greet the Jews and the Christians before they greet you and when you meet any one of them on the roads force him to go to the narrowest part of it."
Quran (5:51) - "O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people."
Sahih Bukhari 1:8:427
When the last moment of the life of Allah's Apostle came he started putting his 'Khamisa' on his face and when he felt hot and short of breath he took it off his face and said, "May Allah curse the Jews and Christians for they built the places of worship at the graves of their Prophets." The Prophet was warning (Muslims) of what those had done.
Ibn Kathir v.2 p.213 - No believer shall kill any believer for any non-believer. Nor shall he help any non-believer against a believer.
Quran (3:28) - "Let not the believers Take for friends or helpers Unbelievers rather than believers: if any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah: except by way of precaution, that ye may Guard yourselves from them..."
Quran (53:29) - "Therefore shun those who turn away from Our Message and desire nothing but the life of this world."
Quran (8:39) - "And fight with them until there is no more fitna (disorder, unbelief) and religion is all for Allah"
How can you be a Muslim and make heaven when being a Muslim means you still believe in the Quran verses above that can make you brutal to your neighbor?
There's no way you can love your neighbor without actually taking Jesus as your Lord and Savior. He is the only teacher that has ever told mankind to forgive those who offend them. He's the only one that has given a guideline on how to love your neighbor which includes forgiving them when they offend you.
If you forgive your neighbor who offends you, it means you are actually following the way of Jesus (Mark11:24). If you pray for those who persecute you, it means you are following the way set by Jesus (Mathew5:44). If you help your neighbor without hoping to get a favor in return, it means you are actually following the example set by the good Samaritan in the parable told by the same Jesus (Luke 10:25-37). The moment you believe his words that says ''love your neighbor'' and you follow his guidelines which are the only way towards achieving that, then it means you BELIEVE in him thereby making you a candidate of eternal life.
John 3:16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever BELIEVES in him shall not perish but have ETERNAL LIFE.
The moment you start to love Christians, Muslims, Jews, Buddhists, Atheists, Pagans etc, you start to incline towards the teachings and ways of Jesus Christ and his disciples in Hebrews 12:14 which says ''Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord''. Read the verse carefully, you will see that you can see God without making peace with all men.
To be able to love your neighbor perfectly, you have to have Christ in you. Without Christ in you and you in him, you wont be able to achieve that.
John 15:5
I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.
Without Jesus you can't produce the fruit of the spirit which is Love and other things that can enable you love your neighbor.
Galatians 5:22-23
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law.
Now, can you be a Muslim and still follow peace with all men? Going by the Quran verses above, the answer is NO. See what Muhammad even told Muslims.
Sahih al-Bukhari Book 52 Hadith 176 "The Day of Resurrection will not arrive until the Moslems make war against the Jews and kill them, and until a Jew hiding behind a rock and tree, and the rock and tree will say: 'Oh Moslem, oh servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him!'"
Sahih Muslim 19:4366
It has been narrated by 'Umar b. al-Khattib that he heard the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) say: I will expel the Jews and Christians from the Arabian Peninsula and will not leave any but Muslim.
Where is the love for their Jewish and Christian neighbors? Can you now see that a person who remains a Muslim and follows the teachings of Muhammad can never make heaven cos those teachings can never make him love his neighbors?
What kind of trash are u quoting? What knowledge of the Quran do u have that u are quoting? You just jump in a verse and begin to quote out of context. Please, if you want to research, research, don't come and start quoting rubbish and abuse Islam all in the name of wanting to quote daddy freeze. If I want to quote the bible, I can and let me give u example: Jesus told his disciples to sell their belongings and purchase swords, he never lived long enough to lead them into warfare, so if u like u can quote one verse of the bible and say Jesus said it. NONSENSE
Exactly Nobody knows which is right or wrong We just follow blindly Muslim believe their God they make references from the qoran. Christians believe THEIR God by making references from the bible. Non of the 2 Gods have appeared to clear the air. So what gives u the right to tell which is the true way.
Abi,I just pray religion does not divide us to the extent that we all forget we have one thing in common which is our humanity.
What kind of trash are u quoting? What knowledge of the Quran do u have that u are quoting? You just jump in a verse and begin to quote out of context. Please, if you want to research, research, don't come and start quoting rubbish and abuse Islam all in the name of wanting to quote daddy freeze. If I want to quote the bible, I can and let me give u example: Jesus told his disciples to sell their belongings and purchase swords, he never lived long enough to lead them into warfare, so if u like u can quote one verse of the bible and say Jesus said it. NONSENSE
If you say I quoted the Quran out of context, kindly quote the other verses to show I truly quoted the verses out of context.
alBHAGDADI: There is no bias in my post. I pointed out some statements he made and showed clearly how he is wrong to have made such.
The thread is not about Hell. If you can't dispute the OP, then don't derail.
You're full of it! First you picked quotes from the Quran and hadith without looking at the stories surrounding it but when it was compared to the negative ones in the Bible, you asked that the stories or context must be considered, this is BIAS!
Next, you seem to think Freeze is wrong because he thinks God is merciful and there are other ways to reach heaven without necessarily going through Jesus yet when I showed you the analysis of your believe and what you are indirectly suggesting that 2 billion people will go into hell fire because they chose(in your mind) the wrong religion. You still fail to see your faulty reasoning, this is BIAS/STUBBORNNESS!
OP if you dont have good knowledge about religion.......its better you keep shut.
the Christians referring Jesus as son of God.... does that mean God has son? or he has a wife that gave birth to Jesus? they people who wrote the bible are just referring him as son of God just because the ways he minister the word God to the unbelievers.
while the Islam aspect... they are just trying to people know that God doesnt have any son biologically. not that because they say God does not have a son means they are not serving the same God.
alBHAGDADI: The verse is telling Christians not to try to mix their religion with others. It is exactly what Daddy Freeze is trying to do. He's trying to make communion and fellowship with Muslims.
The verse didn't in anyway say we shouldn't be friends with humans based on their religion. It only states that we shouldn't make fellowship and communion with them i.e try to equate our religion to theirs.
Pls, pray for the spirit of God to guide you when reading the Bible. Without it, even simple english will be misunderstood.
What your bible is saying is exactly what the quran is saying. None of them is better than the other. Both Christianity and Islam were commissioned by satan to make you hate another man. Neither of them is the way. I'll advise you to quit your religion and embrace God.
Idecievedyou: jesus is God.......who ever muhamed worshipped as God is not a problem to all.. so many Muslims out there believes strongly in God and love God in same respect will never hurt their neighbour...think about a God who will put a Muslim who loved, cared, for people...kind hearted..lived a good life in the name of God but because he was born into Islam God had to put him in hell forever....that must be a wicked God and that's how Christians today paint God..totaly wicked!!.....your heart gives you eternal life eventually.. it's a bigger advantage to you that hears the news about jesus now...that helps you live a better life on earth with the help of our Lord God who came in flesh as jesus and has comand you all to Love, live righteous and live forever..Amen.
this one pass jamb question, I could not find a simple answer to the question. That because he/she was born into Muslim family will go to hell fire.
alBHAGDADI: Those are not names but attributes. If God calls Himself YAHWEH, how come that same name is not in the 99 names of Allah?
can you enlighten me as to what God is called is Hebrew after all every language has their name for God English(god) yoruba(olodumare) Hausa(ubangiji) Arabic(Allah) Japanese(kami) Hebrew(?).
This a wrong statement which should never come out of the mouth of anyone who calls himself a Christian. Only an Antichrist is capable of making such a statement. Freeze is trying to prevent Christians from carrying out the mandate giving to them by Jesus Christ himself when he said...
(Mark 16:15)
And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.
Mathew 28:19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
Mathew 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.
What is Freeze's excuse for making such a statement? He claims Nigerian Pastors have no right to go and preach about blessings in Dubai and China cos they are yet to eradicate poverty and sickness in their own Country. He thinks blessing is all about material things and physical well-being. He doesn't know that receiving Jesus Christ is also a blessing which surpasses every other blessing cos it gives you eternal life. It is this eternal life Freeze is trying to prevent people of those Countries from accessing by ordering Pastors to close their Churches branches abroad and stop going to other Countries to establish the gospel there. This is an Antichrist spirit.
4.) Christians and Muslims worship the same God
In most of the videos Daddy Freeze posts on Youtube, he makes a claim that Christians and Muslims worship the same God. In the video of his that I'm using for discussion, he went ahead to speak of how Pastors are deceiving Christians into believing that the God Muslims worship is not the same Christians worship.
You see, making statements is one thing, backing them up with solid proof is another. Freeze has made his claim, but surprisingly he failed to back them up with scriptures like his FreeTheSheeple followers often claim. Are Christians and Muslims worshiping the same God? Let's use both the Holy Bible and Quran to see if his claims are true.
In the Bible, God made us know he has a Son whom is called Jesus Christ.
Mathew 3:17
And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
Mathew 17:5
While Peter was still speaking, a bright cloud enveloped them, and a voice from the cloud said, "This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. Listen to Him!"
John 3:16
For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
In the Quran, it is said that Allah has no Son.
Quran 17:111
And say: "All praise be to Allah Who has neither taken to Himself a son, nor has He any partner in His kingdom, nor does He need anyone, out of weakness, to protect Him."125So glorify Him in a manner worthy of His glory.
Quran 112:2-3
Allah, the Eternal Refuge. He neither begets nor is born,
Do I have to quote many more verses that clearly show that Christians and Muslims do not worship the same God? Okay, let me drop some more.
The Bible spoke of the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ.
Luke 23:46
Jesus called out with a loud voice, "Father, into your hands I commit my spirit." When he had said this, he breathed his last.
Mathew 16:21
From that time on Jesus began to explain to his disciples that he must go to Jerusalem and suffer many things at the hands of the elders, the chief priests and the teachers of the law, and that he must be killed and on the third day be raised to life.
John 19:33 But when they came to Jesus and found that he was already dead, they did not break his legs.
The Quran denies that Jesus was Killed.
Quran 4:157
Sahih International: And [for] their saying, "Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the messenger of Allah." And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but [another] was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, for certain.
The Bible clearly stated how the Antichrist will operate. It stated that whoever denies the Father and Son is the Antichrist.
1 John 2:22 And who is a liar? Anyone who says that Jesus is not the Christ. Anyone who denies the Father and the Son is an antichrist.
Now, what does the Quran have to say in regards to this stance?
Quran 17:111
And say: "All praise be to Allah Who has neither taken to Himself a son, nor has He any partner in His kingdom, nor does He need anyone, out of weakness, to protect Him."125So glorify Him in a manner worthy of His glory.
Now, tell me how Freeze believes a God which inspired one thing in the Bible is the same God which inspire the opposite in the Quran.
My dear, if you have been carried away by the falsehood of the man called Daddy Freeze, it's time you retrace your steps. I don't blame you much cos you lack in-depth knowledge of God, that's why he can confuse you using scriptures that don't even support his stance. Only baby Christians won't figure his lies out.
If I could use verses from the Bible and Quran to prove his statements to be false, as seen above, don't you think the scriptures he uses to back such FALSE statements might actually be quoted in error?
Watch out for PART 2.
GOD bless you for taking out time to create this topic...We will never get tired of proclaiming the true gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ.
alBHAGDADI: You bite yourself in the process of trying to lie.
The above verse was Apostle Paul telling the pagans that their act of worship is due to the fact that there is something in them inclining them towards the TRUE GOD, but they don't know him that's why they have mistaken him for images made out of silver and gold. If you had read further, you would have seen where Paul preached about Jesus Christ. So, stop trying to use the Bible to justify other religions cos it clearly condemns them.
And other religions condemn the Bible, so who is right?
Daddy freeze should just stop his rant already biko, if it were the other religion he's been picking on like this...he would have been long gone under! Whew!
Ask both muslims and xtian why they think their religion(s) is god's real religion and they will refer you to some books i.e (bible and quran), written some years ago, by some people as their only reason. White MEN presentation and imagination. Mumu people.
The Black man who totally abandoned his own religion as inferior is debating on which religion is the true one, i.e Islam ( Arab ) vs Christianity ( White Men), while the Arabs and White people laugh their heads off at our superstition.
puregrace: Ask both muslims and xtian why they think their religion(s) is god's real religion and they will refer you to some books i.e (bible and quran), written some years ago, by some people as their only reason. White MEN presentation and imagination. Mumu people.
Idecievedyou: jesus is God.......who ever muhamed worshipped as God is not a problem to all.. so many Muslims out there believes strongly in God and love God in same respect will never hurt their neighbour...think about a God who will put a Muslim who loved, cared, for people...kind hearted..lived a good life in the name of God but because he was born into Islam God had to put him in hell forever....that must be a wicked God and that's how Christians today paint God..totaly wicked!!.....your heart gives you eternal life eventually.. it's a bigger advantage to you that hears the news about jesus now...that helps you live a better life on earth with the help of our Lord God who came in flesh as jesus and has comand you all to Love, live righteous and live forever..Amen.
Jesus is no God
John 5:30
By myself I can do nothing; I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who sent me.
John 6: 38
For I have come down from heaven not to do my will but to do the will of him who sent me.
Why is he always talking about an "He"? When he was nailed on the cross, he still asked his father to forgive them yet you Christians gave him a title which isn't his Hy calling him God and worship him. You guys are hell bound cos he never asked you to worhip him. He only asked you to worship God through him
If you saw that rubbish he posted yesterday, I used this as it's rebuttal:
Freeze is an anti Christ. There's no other word to describe him. He confuses the Christians with little knowledge of Bible & reasoning. His statements here is an error sermon. You can't advocate for cheating from men by saying Abraham, Jacob & Co had side chicks. Even though the Bible doesn't emphasise on the no of women to marry, it teaches moderation in every thing. You know it won't b easy to get a woman rivals, especially illegal rivals like concubines. The practice in the Jewish times of Bible happen with the circumstances of that time & they have the implications/repercussions. Abraham's having sex with Hagar created a rivalry btw the descendants of the children of Hagar & the children of Sarah (Christians & Muslims). So... What kind of msg us DaddyFreeze preaching? A msg of confusion. That now, men should start taking side chicks. Making our women to start falling into sin cos they are trying to fend of rivals. As if the problems created by those that deliberately v side chicks is not enough! The earlier the better those DaddyFreeze preaches to realise that he's a foo l who just take Bible verses without thorough scanning but cook up a bad sermon from it. About tithing, has Freeze not contradicted himself enough? How can he quote about legality of Abraham's side chicks when Abraham payed tithe. Didn't Abraham pay Melchizedek, a priest tithe? Shebi DaddyFreeze said tithing is an old testament thing. So it is for this blasphemous side chick message. It was taken from old testament too. The Apostles & Jesus didn't preach it. See, tithing isn't compulsory, it's a thing to give with free mind. DaddyFreeze should correct people that said it's compulsory. Instead of him telling Pastors to point out Biblical verses that validates tithing. There's none that said it's compulsory but there are verses that said it was payed. Final verdict on tithing, it should be payed as the spirit leads. Christianity is practised with Biblical facts & common sense. It's not only things in the Bible Christians should practice. They are to follow good things from their culture, learnings etc. On DaddyFreeze, he's a man who's controlled by his lust. He doesn't talk about other angles of Christianity like holiness, salvation, evangelism etc. Whatever his callous mind thinks it's not proper, he polishes & sell it to the gullible & lackadaisical Christians. People whose salvation aren't complete but are swayed by deceptive words. Especially those that are Nigerians who finds the country's economy on the harsh side. Take your time to ponder on my post & see the truth. DaddyFreeze is not handling the affairs of God properly. I pray to God to guide him right.
frosbel2: The Black man who totally abandoned his own religion as inferior is debating on which religion is the true one, i.e Islam ( Arab ) vs Christianity ( White Men), while the Arabs and White people laugh their heads off at our superstition.
And other religions condemn the Bible, so who is right?
We don't care much if they think they are right or not. What we don't want is for them and folks like you to try to make it seem like we worship the same God.
