kumakunta:

Since 1999 we have had more Christians than Muslims and instead of things getting better it just get worse . So you and daddy freeze are wrong .

Clap for yourself for not knowing the year your problems started.

first the 50days fasting and prayer doesn't stop anyone from working.

secondly Freeze or whatever he calls himself should go and sit down, I rather listen to a goat blee and listening to him

Simply because he was ex communicate from Church because of his shameful lifestyle he comes here every day and rant nonsense

if I may ask how many lives has the lunatic himself impact

I guess you know the answer

Concerning the rich countries i don't want to go there cause we all know how it goes

Is okay...
This man again ...

Freeze is now a nuisance to himself. Surely, you cannot stop the church. Nigeria guarantees freedom of religion for her citizens. Allow those interested to participate in the fasting, it is not by force. You keep talking about the church and the economy. Have u forgotten that the church is not Federal Government? Please leave the church alone to avoid God,s wrath.

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its not just Muslims or Christian. it religion. Mind you, I'm a Christian. but the way some people think is just foolish.

I know a girl who sells ponmo, saved the profit for a whole year and gave her pastor. she lives with thus pastor. His children are studying abroad. And she sells ponmo o.

I see many jobless people staying in church from Monday to Sunday. can't the church give them money(out of the tithe n seeds) to start a small business and learn a skill? I can't say much about Muslims, cos I don't know wat goes on there.

So yes, religion has a lot to do with this. most pastors are misleading people.

Like I said, I am a christian. I believe in working and praying. not just praying or staying in church waiting for a miracle or waiting for pastor to matchmake me with one brother.[/quote][/s]

deebrain:


Changes nothing. What is said, stands.

It's like you're used to this "changes nothing " bs. Thank God you have no power to enforce Nada and those words are empty.

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sirxbit:
Daddy freeze is saying the truth but u people are tooooo foolish to see it.
Fasting and prayer would do notin and i repeat absolutely notin for this country.
Every 31st u fools will go to church in the name of cross over shouting dis year 20** my year would be better , sowing seeds. At the end of the year ur life is worst and u go back again for another crossover and shout same nonsense repeatedly for series of Years without askinh urself y am i still the same all this year after praying and fasting so hard? I must do sometin different dis year.am not gonna pray for any prosperity and gonna work hard,am gonna think hard,and gonna spend more tym building myself rather than spend it in church. But nooooo. You continue ur cycle of plain stupidity
Going to church sowing seed for a better life , financial prosperity etc. Thanking God you enter the new year. The next day if not same day some of u will die.
Better look into yourself and find solution rather than pray and fast.
FOOLS

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Ekealterego:
Sadly true.
People should be told the truth!
The time we spend hunting for miracles, we should rather use that time to make our country a better place. People need tinknow that things don't happen magically. Even the bible noted that faith without works is dead, its a combination of a faith as small as a mustard seed and a whole lot of work. While you are busy praying to get a car magically, do you know the average citizen in the west and far east are sweating it out in a factory somewhere? People are in labs doing active research on how to improve, guys are working in the harsh winter weather developing apps, the IT personnel are busy developing intelligent computers, while you have already spend 50 days out of the lil time you have hunting for miracles. Prayer is powerful but more work is better!

You guys should just stop this already! You talk as if Nigerian Christians live in the church 24 hours a day only praying. What the heck?!

Unbelievers spend hours on Friday night in clubs, drinking, dancing and having sex. Even in Europe, most young people spend Friday and Saturday night in clubs boozing, smoking, fornicating. That's over 24-36 hours wasted on partying every week.
Freeze spends most of his free time on the internet. Now when Christians spend their free time praying, you guys jump out and start accusing them.

The Bible calls Satan the accuser of the brethren. Unfortunately, Freeze has taken over that role from him. Let him be going. We are watching him.

abeg freeze

daddy freeze na mumu,wetin consigner am about fasting and prayer,nah there choice.

Abeg this guy is asking sense.

Some Christians are so lazy. How can u be in the church from Sunday to Sunday and expect manner to fall from Heaven

Some pastors are not even helping matters. They enslave their members by telling lies instead of the truth.


Fasting and prayers is good ooo but 50 days?
God never deft na. Na our sins dey Make us feel say we suppose shout, hit our heads for ground, stay inside Bush all in the name of mountain for many days repeating d same prayer points without getting answers.


If u want answera from God, pray, work hard, stay away from sin, have strong faith, never give up in life and u will see ur prayers coming to fulfilment.



Just my opinion though.

1freshdude:


This is not a way to understand issues, in medicine, do you cure an ailment by merely treating symptoms? I believe you had to write some form of thesis or research paper to get your degree...what does empirics say about this development?

Hey I have been reading your reply to that guy, and from both of your write ups the Guy has got his facts more than you do. You don't even have a basic understanding or grasp of the issue. And he is right with his assertions.

Our major problem is very bad leaders, visionless and mental laziness as a people. It is the work of the leaders to put in basic infrastructures like electricity, good road networks etc. The Church is not the problem.

Penalty82:
If there is any doubt about this guys stupidity, he just cleared it.


His problems are not the politicians he voted in but the church.

And if there was any doubt about ur gullibility, u just proved it.

Why do u allow sentiment becloud ur sense of reasoning?

Blind Christian

Xbee007:
We just have our priorities reversed in this country. You want to embark on a journey rather than make necessary checks you pray over it. When you have accident you then blame devil and innocent villagers for your misfortune.

I tell u.

We blame d devil and village for everything. Even our mistakes are blamed on the witches.

Some Christians have turned week days to praying days probably bcs they have not read or they chose to ignore the part of the Bible that says God worked for six days and rested on the seventh.


U cannot use prayers to replace hard work jor

sweetlaw:

And if there was any doubt about ur gullibility, u just proved it.
Why do u allow sentiment becloud ur sense of reasoning?
Blind Christian

Adress the eldest in your family this way.

victorazy:


He is only doing himself, when the dance go start.

Which dance?

He didn't insult anybody, just starting the obvious but again it's not for people who have been brainwashed to understand sha

1freshdude:


This are all parts of the problems....very small parts, the emirate countries developed from the export of raw materials...so what do you say about that?
There are more fundamental problems that you can understand only by looking at history, what did others do to develop? The Industrial revolution in Britain is a place to start.

Honestly you are really not smart indeed. Look at the very stupid question you are asking. Imagine talking about industrial revolution of 100s of years before. That is very stupid.

You would have asked what the nations that got developed the last 30 years what they did. What did countries like South Korea, Singapore, Taiwan, Hongkong UAE, Qatar, etc did to get developed. What economic models did they apply to become developed nations.

I don't know where you have been in the world, I have been to some of these countries I quoted and also been to some developed western nations and I can tell you that these countries I quoted have better and modern infrastructures than some of these western nations and the speed they are coming they will displace the west in coming decades.
Eg changi international Airport Singapore has been winning the best Airport in the world for the past years. Emirates Airport Dubai is the leading Airport hub now in the world, and many other things

I will be happy to meet anyone who this guy has helped.

desreek9:
I was expecting this "fridge" to quote a bible verse saying we shudnt fast for 50 days, so because Jesus fasted for 40 days we all must fast 40 days, so we cant choose to fast for more or less than 40days smh

It's obvious he's against pentecostals from this write up, if not why is he bringing up catholic and muslim countries with wealth, don't they have thousands of churches and mosques there, dont they have politicians who rule and maintain their collective wealth, do they blame their priests and imams for infrastructure and whatnot?

He should direct his rants to our politicians, pastors and churches can only assist however they can which they've been doing from time immemorial.

You will live long

tippyboy:
blaming the failure of this country on pastors is not cool.

Freeze is not in position to give this advice,
Matthew 7:5
You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye.

Freeze with your creativities and innovations how many mansions you don own.

You should focus more on your life cos I'm pretty sure most of the people doing the fasting and prayers are richer you.

More blessings follow you

Penalty82:
If there is any doubt about this guys stupidity, he just cleared it.


His problems are not the politicians he voted in but the church.

was he the one who voted the politicians in or Nigerians as a whole?

deebrain:
Freeze.

You will really be disgraced. And you and all that support you will be destroyed suddenly.

We will come back after your disgrace and destruction to look at your posts on nairaland like we are presently doing with MMM.

Then you will know that you stepped on the wrong foot.

Mark these words.

you na GOD?

majekdom2:
who is the "you" that you know is praying for a car? Who is the person that you know is not working. Who is the you! Stop being critical. Do you own part, leave peopl with their beliefs. There are are thousand and one billionaires that will be part of the fast. RCCG is an institution in more than 190 nations... can this be ordinary whilst freeze is a man known in few states in a country. We should use our common sense here and not always follow what a silly man who wants attention says!

But he is making a point.

aiir2303:


It's like you're used to this "changes nothing " bs. Thank God you have no power to enforce Nada and those words are empty.

Time will tell.

rosita33:
But he is making a point.

he is not making any point if he cant tell me his you. The person you are seeing praying in church is actually hustling within, he is putting things together... you may not see that one because you are more critical and judgemental about his beliefs/ we have a people problem not religion!

majekdom2:
he is not making any point if he cant tell me his you. The person you are seeing praying in church is actually hustling within, he is putting things together... you may not see that one because you are more critical and judgemental about his beliefs/ we have a people problem not religion!

It is religion problem. if a Muslim can his brother and a christian can't do the same, what is that. when a person keep fasting every year and remains were he is, what is the need. and to me, I don't believe in this marathon fading. if I want to seek my GOD. I know who to go about it.

majekdom2:
he is not making any point if he cant tell me his you. The person you are seeing praying in church is actually hustling within, he is putting things together... you may not see that one because you are more critical and judgemental about his beliefs/ we have a people problem not religion!

It is religion problem. if a Muslim can help his brother and a christian can't do the same, what is that. when a person keep fasting every year and remains were he is, what is the need. and to me, I don't believe in this marathon fasting. if I want to seek my GOD. I know how to go about it.

rosita33:
It is religion problem. if a Muslim can his brother and a christian can't do the same, what is that. when a person keep fasting every year and remains were he is, what is the need. and to me, I don't believe in this marathon fading. if I want to seek my GOD. I know who to go about it.

Again may be because we borrowed English we dont seem to understand it properly. now a person keeps fasting with no results, another fasts the same fast but with result... is fast the problem now or the person. do you get my point. either the other person is not fasting right or the one that gets it is doing some other stuffs. @ last bolded, you are not compelled to belief in marathon fasting, stick to you belief of how to go about it. how will you feel if someone says the way you are going about it is wrong. we have a people problem not religion! no religion tells you to steal money!

majekdom2:
Again may be because we borrowed English we dont seem to understand it properly. now a person keeps fasting with no results, another fasts the same fast but with result... is fast the problem now or the person. do you get my point. either the other person is not fasting right or the one that gets it is doing some other stuffs. @ last bolded, you are not compelled to belief in marathon fasting, stick to you belief of how to go about it. how will you feel if someone says the way you are going about it is wrong. we have a people problem not religion! no religion tells you to steal money!

you just brought another topic up. the present day pastors advise that.

rosita33:
you just brought another topic up. the present day pastors advise that.

fine, some pastore but not all pastors.... I addressed this issue on a post. During the slave trade, did we have pastors or imams but a black man sold another black man. If religion existed, they would have blames it. Point is mental laziness is the problem. Why did mmm thrive? Must they follow a fake pastor? Why can't they think for themselves? Will you blame chudi or mavro? They are criminals, yes but who is a bigger criminal. You undershand my point. It's basically the people

majekdom2:
fine, some pastore but not all pastors.... I addressed this issue on a post. During the slave trade, did we have pastors or imams but a black man sold another black man. If religion existed, they would have blames it. Point is mental laziness is the problem. Why did mmm thrive? Must they follow a fake pastor? Why can't they think for themselves? Will you blame chudi or mavro? They are criminals, yes but who is a bigger criminal. You understand my point. It's basically the people

this what a person like freeze trying to tell the gullibles but they have been brainwashed, charmed by the pastors. intact 99.9% of days pastors. I was almost a victim and I have seen many people close to me in the same mess.

Don't pay tithe. .
Don't give offerings and first fruits. .
Speaking in tongues is rubbish. .
Don't spread / establish churches in some countries . .
Now don't do fastings. .

Next thing Apostle Freeze will say is don't pray. .and finally don't go to church again.

Your unclothedness has been exposed Freeze, just leave us Christians alone, we don't need your interpretations.
Thank sir.