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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 11:00am On Jan 14, 2018 |
goldfish80: Yea that's true bro but this is a friendly match and it will be played in Europe, they will not be needing a Nigerian passport to partake. I'm open to ur corrections. Maybe the rules have been amended 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by nelszx: 11:06am On Jan 14, 2018 |
I knew it was the German connect, would love to see them and what they can bring to the table. But hope switching allegiance won't take as long as Aina's case. March is almost approaching and switching should be at top gear so we can get to see them against the Polish. ChrisKels: 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by nelszx: 11:12am On Jan 14, 2018 |
DrKlever: I'm yet to see people who call their players Argentina Ndidi or Australia Iheanacho but we want our players to answer another country's player. Same happened in Egypt when the media were calling Salah "Egyptian Messi" till they corrected such now they are proud calling him "The Egyptian Salah". It makes them proud to have such player among their ranks. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 11:17am On Jan 14, 2018 |
TheGoodJoe: Hold on a second, you're saying in Ndidi's 3 years playimg in Europ, last night was the very first time he played in a "creative system"? I say this because Ndidi have never managed 86% pass completion in his career. I challenge you point out a game he managed such average from Genk till date, even for the national team. You're over stretching your limits on this one. “He puts in some fantastic work on the pitch. “I think also he improves with the ball and plays with quality. “I think he can make further progress in this area. He has great potential for the future.”This was Claude Puel quote just 4 days ago. I am chuffed to bits how a rational person will attribute Ndidi's improvement to Shakespeare or whatever system. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by nelszx: 11:22am On Jan 14, 2018 |
ChrisKels: Akpoguma can't play as he has played at different age grades for Germany. Should Nigeria play him without clearance it'd be like Shehus case against Algeria (he's ineligible for selection until he is cleared). Akpoguma would need FIFA clearance to play in that match not the matter of having passport. Same thing stopped Aina from playing the Corsican and Togo friendlies. If Udokhia hasn't played for Germany before then he'd be in line for contention for the game as he has not been tied somewhere. FIFA rules are simple and explicit enough to understand. The NFF wouldn't want to do the Shehu mistake twice. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:23am On Jan 14, 2018 |
goldfish80: No need jumping from tree to tree. The point is simple. If Puel played in a negative fashion yesterday, Ndidi will not pull those stats. Simple. Months ago I pointed it that the system was inhibiting Ndidi's creativity. They played in brave fashion and Ndidi was brilliant. Not just Ndidi, even Mahrez was amazing. You want me to argue the Genk like if I watched their matches. As I told you, I only argue what I see. I saw months ago what happened yesterday. Whether it pains you or not, none of my business. Finito. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 11:25am On Jan 14, 2018 |
TheGoodJoe: Even for Genk and Super Eagles, Ndidi have never managed to hit those passing average. Genk and Nigeria play negative football too? Why are you at pains to admit Puel have improved this aspect of Ndidi's game? You dont want to be proved wrong that Puel is a good a coach because of Kelechi's misfortune? How have the sacking of Puel improved Southampton? Puel took them to a comfortable 8th position and a cup final. Presently, Southampton is just 2 points off the dreaded relegation zone. Infact, they could be bottom of the table by this time next week if results go against them. How you take pleasure to rubbish a man who polished Benzema, Lisandro Lopez, Essien, Juninho, Diarra and generally the famous Lyon mid 2000's squad which generated hundreds of million in transfer revenue for Jean pierre Aulas beats me hollow. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:27am On Jan 14, 2018 |
goldfish80: Stop behaving like if you can not comprehend a simple point or you are trying to lie to score cheap points. Shakespeare's negative system was inhibiting/stopping/preventing Ndidi's creative attributes. Just like Puel's dross side was holding Ndidi and the team back. They played bravely yesterday, Ndidi and the team excelled. Very simple point. How the hell that is attributing Ndidi's creativity to Shakespeare frightens me. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:29am On Jan 14, 2018 |
goldfish80: Puel was sacked because of negativity. Finito. I have criticised our Super Eagles system of being negative repeatedly. So, telling me Ndidi never managed those stats, proves my point. You must not argue even the one you do not understand. Drink chillax drinks. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 11:32am On Jan 14, 2018 |
ChrisKels: Passport is not the issue but the getting the international clearance from FIFA. The process is quite stringent in addition to the bureaucratic bottlenecks since you're dealing with a foreign government. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:33am On Jan 14, 2018 |
goldfish80: I am not rubbishing a man. I said his system was negative. I praised him for bravery yesterday and hopes he continues that way. I am not a person who will start praising someone when I see he is heading down the wrong path. If Puel continues in the same path as yesterday, I will praise him repeatedly. My stance on offensive, possessive play will not change to please you. Finito. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 11:36am On Jan 14, 2018 |
TheGoodJoe:You claimed you saw the improvements from Shakespeare's time months ago. Are you tactically denying your claims just few minutes back? Since Ndidi always had it in him why does his pass completion for Genk stand at 70 something percent? At a point im Belgium it was a lowly 72%. Was Genk also playing negative football? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 11:41am On Jan 14, 2018 |
TheGoodJoe:I wasn't begging you to please me. I'm pointing with relish that you were wrong to tag Puel a poor manager when his track record speaks for him. Because Kelechi doesn't start fkr Leicester doesn't make Puel a lesser manager. Under him, Mahrez seem to have discovered his mojo and the other chap on the wings have seen his stock rise amid muted calls for an England call up. You're dead wrong about Puel, that is a fact. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:44am On Jan 14, 2018 |
goldfish80: What is wrong with you? What concerns Kelechi Iheanacho here? I praised Puel yesterday, did you see Kelechi Iheanacho play yesterday? Stop painting fake stories to score cheap points. 6 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:47am On Jan 14, 2018 |
goldfish80: I did not watch Ndidi in Belgium and unlike you, I will not read stats and brag as if I saw signs. I noticed Ndidi could do more creatively but Shakespeare's system was holding him back, just like Mahrez and Albrighton. Simple. If you can not understand something so simple and tag it seeing improvement under Shakespeare, then no need quoting and arguing what you can not comprehend. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:49am On Jan 14, 2018 |
goldfish80: Stop being economical with the truth. Puel was terrible for Lyon. Spoilt their seven years consecutive league title wins and forced the fans to protest against him on the streets with banners begging him to honorably resign. Then the board terminated his contract. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 12:09pm On Jan 14, 2018 |
TheGoodJoe,get ready to have ur unbeaten league run ended today ![]() ![]() |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 12:20pm On Jan 14, 2018 |
TheGoodJoe: We do not have the team with the ability is to play overall attacking/positive football. We do not have ball retaining mid fielders like the Croatians neither do we have ball playing defenders like the Argentines. Mikel is old. At best what we have is an average team with the ability to cause upsets. You must admit our team is best defending deep and playing counter attack. That's our ability. Fast wingers, defensively minded mid fielders and defenders. Rohr knows this. This is how we beat Argentina. This is how we qualified. We went to Yaounde in Cameroon to defend. Yet we got an early goal on the counter attack and could have won if Ezenwa had not shown inexperience. Many coaches in the past did not come to terms with this hence we struggled. Siasia attacked against Egypt and lost us afcon 2017 qualification. Keshi attacked Italy and we drew a game we could have won. We have kept on attacking Argentina in recent competitive games an never won. Keshi attacked Spain at the confeds and lost. We no longer have the Finidis and Okochas of those days. We must come to terms with the fact that we are an average team at best but a deadly one defending and playing counter attack. That is our weapon for the world cup. We have the ability to cause upsets. Conclusion: Forget about your anti-negative football campaign about the eagles. 7 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:32pm On Jan 14, 2018 |
Danielnino00: I just want a good game of eye catching football. Let us see how it goes and I expect Klopp to come out with Fireworks. I hope we give Liverpool hell. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 12:33pm On Jan 14, 2018 |
TheGoodJoe: Your attack on Puel started when it became clear Kelechi couldn't find a place in his team. You claimed his tactics was negative and Kelechi should leave to to Bristol. Your attack on Puel was as a result of Kelechi's lack of game time. Prove me wrong 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by darkelf: 12:38pm On Jan 14, 2018 |
goldfish80: Puel is undoubtedly an excellent coach bro. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:39pm On Jan 14, 2018 |
goldfish80: I have hammered it repeatedly that it is not about Iheanacho but the system is affecting other players including Slimani, Gray, Albrighton etc. I praised Puel yesterday even though Iheanacho did not play and I said I hope he continues that way. That is my philosophy of what works. Not about Iheanacho. I supported Unsworth of Everton because I believed in his system. By his last game, he won 4-0. Did I support him because of Iheanacho? It just shows your analysing with bias and sentiments. That is why Iheanacho crept into an unrelated talk. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 12:40pm On Jan 14, 2018 |
TheGoodJoe:Was it not under Puel that Lyon made their first and last ever champions league semi finals? How many French ligue un and champions league semifinals have Lyon managed since his departure? 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:41pm On Jan 14, 2018 |
darkelf: Excellent? That fans demonstrated on the streets against! That is a whole new definition of excellence. I hope he continues the same path as he did against Chelsea. The game against Fleetwood will tell. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by darkelf: 12:42pm On Jan 14, 2018 |
AIG07: True talk I wish this type of competition would exist in our attack department |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:42pm On Jan 14, 2018 |
goldfish80: And he broke their consecutive run of winning the league seven times by finishing third. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 12:44pm On Jan 14, 2018 |
TheGoodJoe:But his system have seen Ndidi, Harry McGuire, Mahrez, Gray, Okazaki thrive and generally improved. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 12:45pm On Jan 14, 2018 |
TheGoodJoe:Nobody remains on top forever. They were bound to loose grip at some point after wholesale sales of their important players overtime. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 12:49pm On Jan 14, 2018 |
TheGoodJoe:I actually watched Ndidi in Belgium and in the Europa League. I told anyone who cared to listen that his passing game was poor and sometimes he gets caught out of position. Micheal2 argued this until I provided clips. Funny you didn't watch him I Belgium but you are arguing like you knew him all these while. If never watched him earlier how could you habe known his celine? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 12:50pm On Jan 14, 2018 |
darkelf:Only someone with an ulterior motive will argue this despite his proven track record. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:54pm On Jan 14, 2018 |
AllforJesus7: I am not having a negative campaign against Rohr. I believe we can set our team in a more offensive set up and do well. I am not one who argues a lot against the Masters, that is why I believe Rohr needs time to build the Super Eagles into an offensive force. That does not mean I should praise the team as an offensive one when we are not. A good example was both halves we played against Argentina. In the fist half, we were more negative than in the second half. In the second half, with more offensive wingbacks, we caused the Argentines more trouble. I prefer the second set up to the first. Just an adjustment with the roles of the wingbacks, we caused more problems. I believe Rohr is leading the team towards that path but he is doing it with time. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by darkelf: 12:57pm On Jan 14, 2018 |
TheGoodJoe: What I meant to say is he has been excellent for Leicester so far Apologies for the truncation, it sent before I could correct. Thanks |
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