konoplyanka:



When did ibos leave Nigeria?

Sprumbabafather:
Only on one condition,

All the Doctors and professors who signed that paper must tender an unreserved apology for being deceived to vote a person who didn't pass WASC

Anyway, till we hear from Nnamdi Kanu, its Buharri till 2089

nextstep:


Why? The Sultan of Sokoto is considered the spiritual leader of the Muslim community in Nigeria. Who else should Yoruba Muslims take religious directions and observance from?

Teeboi56:

Wow
And u think u we still alive dat time 2089

littlewonders:
Restructuring is a sin at the moment in a country called Nigeria.

Guestlander:


Read the part where the OP marked as " Must Read" and tell us what you think.

Xbee007:

Simple, here is how it works. The Sultan of Sokoto is just a mere mouthpiece, his duty is to report the sighting of the moon to the general public. If he fails to do so, it wouldn't change anything as everyone with eyes can sight moon on his own. Most Muslims don't even know he does that. No one waits for anyone to do the sighting for them, once it is sighted in a particular state or country u can comfortably calculate the time difference and select correctly when to start or end fasting.

nextstep:


OK, I must be mistaken (and I'm not trying to be cheeky).

Please quote the article and make plain its main thrust. If people were gainfully employed with good jobs, schools, hospitals, etc. do you think this advert would make any sense? Intellectuals just get together and demand restructuring because everything is going well? Consider the following:

"Everyone is eating well and is healthy, so let's restructure for some other undisclosed reason" <- this one doesn't make much sense.

"Everyone is suffering, there are no jobs, so let's restructure" <- this one makes more sense, which leads me to my conclusion.

Instead of just stating that unemployment is not the main thrust, please put forward a plausible reason for the advert. I've given you my plausible reasons for my conclusion.

AfonjaConehead:
Just imagine what they will name their imaginary kwantiri, THE NGBANTI PEOPLES REPUBLIC OF CONEHEADS

BAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...

AfonjaConehead:
Coneheads were the mumu errand pigeons for mallams (as typical slaves)in the war against the crusader,Nnamdi Kanu. They were the empty barrels and high sounding drums,shouting anti Kanu bla bla bla.. They were foaming in the mouth and dared Kanu to enter Lagos. Operation python dance became more popular than the birthday,life and times of their great Otapiapia hero

Now they wan port to their amala kwantiri of coneheads where they will be free to pick pocket and harvest their heads for rituals,whosaai

all coneheads repeat after me: "ONE NAIJIRIYA!"



BAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA....KIKIKIKIKIKIKIKIKIKI...

Guestlander:


Yoruba man not made for the stuff needed to be a secessionist? I'm I supposed to be debating this nonsense with you? Is there anyone specially made to be a secessionist?

Guestlander:


Basically the constitution we are operating is not a federal constitution. Nigeria became an independent country and got a carefully negotiated constitution agreed to by all the federating units.
What we have now is not working for anyone, except maybe a few who now have some advantages as a result of the skewed constitution.
States for example should not be going to Abuja every cap in hand like beggers.
There are several other issues affecting states which Abuja should have no business dealing with.

Sprumbabafather:


Yes, your children will be living the way afonjas are living under the emir of Illorin

nextstep:


I've read it.

- "The Yoruba people are irrevocably commited to a fundamental structuring".[/I]
OK... why? I say economic hardship

[i]- "inaliable right to self-determination guaranteed by the United Nations Charter".[/I]
No country is obligated to recognize anything, unless it serves their own interest. Leave charter alone.

[i]- "cannot be carried out under the present National Assembly... does not recognize the will of We the People".
Fine. You are welcome to challenge the sovereign with violence (which is its right to resort to, as mandated by its Constitution). Good luck. History has shown that the UN (I really mean the Security Council) only recognizes the side with superior firepower, and many millions are displaced/killed/starved while UN countries make money selling arms, planes, and relief supplies.

I've no problem with restructuring, and I will gladly apply for visa if Oduduwa Republic becomes a strong, prosperous, sovereign nation.

Sprumbabafather:


And Jonathan proposed some good laws in 2014 and what did you do?

Vote him out. Are you Ok?

zendy:



Lol

There are only two ways of leaving Nigeria:

You either become a secessionist like Ojukwu, declare your independence and fight for it no matter the consequence.

Or

You become an Nnamdi Kanu and take up agitation and challenge the powers that be to give you a referendum


The stuff of character needed to be either Ojukwu or Kanu is rarely found amongs Yorubas. This makes any talk of leaving Nigeria by them laughable. It takes more than mere talk to leave Nigeria

Guestlander:


Jonathan was a dunce. What laws, are you talking about?

zendy:



Lol

There are only two ways of leaving Nigeria:

You either become a secessionist like Ojukwu, declare your independence and fight for it no matter the consequence.

Or

You become an Nnamdi Kanu and take up agitation and challenge the powers that be to give you a referendum


The stuff of character needed to be either Ojukwu or Kanu is rarely found amongs Yorubas. This makes any talk of leaving Nigeria by them laughable. It takes more than mere talk to leave Nigeria

Sprumbabafather:


Buharri is a genius, that is why we want him to continue till 2089

sai baba

Guestlander:


I don't think it is rare at all in the Yoruba nation. We achieve whatever we set our minds to achieve. History will bear us witness on that. If we decide to leave Nigeria be rest assured Nigeria is finished. We are not ibos.

Sprumbabafather:


1967-1970.


When did Yorubas even attempt to to pull their heads out of the butthole of the fulanis?

xynerise:
na now their eyes open

Sprumbabafather:


We are watching, in the next 10 years I will remember this newspaper advert and laugh with it. I will remember the most toothless people in Africa who are all steam and no action.

Guestlander:


The issues at hand is beyond individuals. This is not about Buhari or Jonathan. We are talking about the lives of millions of people here.

Guestlander:


He never did. He chanted biafra or death and started acting like a delusional Jewish fanatic.

Guestlander:


Basically the constitution we are operating is not a federal constitution. Nigeria became an independent country and got a carefully negotiated constitution agreed to by all the federating units.
What we have now is not working for anyone, except maybe a few who now have some advantages as a result of the skewed constitution.
States for example should not be going to Abuja every cap in hand like beggers.
There are several other issues affecting states which Abuja should have no business dealing with.

konoplyanka:

Lol. Secede where?

There was never a need to.

Guestlander:


Copy and save it for posterity. Nigeria in 10 years will be different from Nigeria of today.
We don't beat our chests for nothing like some folks.

nextstep:


I can understand and appreciate this. But if state governors looked inwards and capitalized on their unique strengths, they won't need to go hand in cap, and over decades, can assert more and more of their own independence and authority (which is really only possible with growing economic strength). This would actually be much more productive than the calls for restructuring which - by itself - won't put food in peoples stomachs, or suddenly result in great healthcare.

You mentioned the existing constitution was carefully negotiated by the federating units... including the ones clamoring for break away. Weren't they the same who agreed to the Constitutions, and to be bound by them?

When IPOB was doing its own nonsense last year, I said the same thing... Igboland would be much better served focusing on improving economic conditions, and grooming its children so they become part of the ruling elite. As an example: an Igbo child is more likely to go into trade than to go into government administration. Conversely, you'll find a lot of Hausa/Fulani children going into the civil service as recruits/clerks/porters/guard/cleaners. As the years go by and promotions are made, the core of leaders in the civil service will consist mostly of people in the civil service (i.e. Hausa).

Yes, there is solid evidence of Northerisation agenda, as made explicit by Sir Ahmadu Bello (who I respect for his position and efforts towards his people, yet am sincerely disappointed in his positions towards people like me not from the North), and being continued till this day under Buhari.

Nevertheless, I think we have made great progress away from the mindset of people born before Independence. I think we owe it to future generations of Nigerians to continue to seek more fruitful ways of nation building together, rather than seeking the exit at every opportunity, in spite of whether we were thrown together in a marriage of convenience or not.