hopefulLandlord:
wilgrea7, I sight you bro

present sir

Although not all white people, I'd say its what they define as priorities... take Saudi Arabia for example... the priority given to religion is a really high one.. the west doesn't really prioritize religion... their societies aren't built with religion as the centre.. check religious countries... their religion is the centre of their society or closely related with it

Niflheim:
@lady2sexy,


I do not know the kind of whites you were referring to(the ones that blacks are smarter than)!!! But these are the kind of whites I was referring to!!!

Link 1 is about robots that build sfer and cheaper homes, faster:...........................................................https://phys.org/news/2018-01-robotics-technology-industry.html

Link 2 is about growing animal meat without slaughtering animals(the meat grows like a tree from animal cells):.......................................................................................https://www.iol.co.za/business-report/companies/lab-meat-to-transform-meat-industry-in-2021-12750778

Link 3 is about drones saving human lives:..........................................http://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-42731112

and link4 is about electricity for the "common man":.................................https://www.hakaimagazine.com/news/turning-water-into-fuel/

you totally misconstrue my drift. not really saying that we are smarter or more intelligent all am saying is that those qualities can be found in any race. My question is that how come the average white seems to be far irreligious compared to an average black person

It is simple. They have less problem couple with the fact the ruler of this world has blind them

Seun:
Lady2sexy, even as a Christian, you should know that conducting prayer meetings during office hours is wrong. You can pray for your workplace at home or in the church, but when you get to work, you should work, because that’s what they pay you for. Also, the workplace is a diverse environment and no religion should be favored. You don’t have to be a “satanist” to see that your white bosses are right to be offended.

Not as if the devotion session of our morning meeting take eternity. The devotion is merely 5-8min after our main meeting. That's has been the tradition in the office besides everybody in the office is christian. The prayers is still for the company to grow and I don't see anything bad in that.

lady2sexy:


you totally misconstrue my drift. not really saying that we are smarter or more intelligent all am saying is that those qualities can be found in any race. My question is that how come the average white seems to be far irreligious compared to an average black person

Because they realized that "magic/miracle" is not doing the impossible but doing what is perceived to be impossible.

As I am typing, Elon Musk has a creative imagination on how to make human an interplanetary specie. SpaceX is the company he founded through research and hardwork. We (Africans) will be here praying for miracles why they (whites) colonize Mars.

The only way to advance is through creative imagination and enormous research.

lady2sexy:


Not as if the devotion session of our morning meeting take eternity. The devotion is merely 5-8min after our main meeting. That's has been the tradition in the office besides everybody in the office is christian. The prayers is still for the company to grow and I don't see anything bad in that.

Chai

Jesus Satan forgive them because they do not know what they're typing

Saverin:


Because they realized that "magic/miracle" is not doing the impossible but doing what is perceived to be impossible.

As I am typing, Elon Musk has a creative imagination on how to make human an interplanetary specie. SpaceX is the company he founded through research and hardwork. We (Africans) will be here praying for miracles why they (whites) colonize Mars.

The only way to advance is through creative imagination and enormous research.

i notice you are kept in awe for the awareness of the technological wonders of the west... of course you should, science is an important undertaking. But your surprise is not different from the same wonder with which people of ancient look upon sorcerers and magicians that do disappear or turn to different kinds of animal. The magicians then did it to win their audience to secure their comfortable hold on society. the people then trust magic and sorcery than GOD.. today science has also taking the same step, it has succeed in upgrading us to modern slaves. humanity has not really change, the west may look good than Africa but we still all face the same endless worries that has ever been with us since time memorial....sickness, sadness, suicide . etc...... NO ultimate peace and love of the mind. to make matter worst science is enhancing the ruining of our nature and her inhabitant which are the major sustenance of life.... the chemical added to our crops to enable quick growth become toxin in our system.medication provided to cure the impact of the same toxin is another wahala,because it also add more toxins to the system while removing the formal one .people now lives with medication , what about our unclean air? am sure you aware of global warming......

in short what am saying is science alone can not solve our misery, science should be learn alongside spirituality as one can not stand without one. The deliberate attempt to make Europe become an atheist paradise will only speed up their collapse... and this is same root African is trekking

vaxx:
i notice you are kept in awe for the awareness of the technological wonders of the west... of course you should, science is an important undertaking. But your surprise is not different from the same wonder with which people of ancient look upon sorcerers and magicians that do disappear or turn to different kinds of animal. The magicians then did it to win their audience to secure their comfortable hold on society. the people then trust magic and sorcery than GOD.. today science has also taking the same step, it has succeed in upgrading us to modern slaves. humanity has not really change, the west may look good than Africa but we still all face the same endless worries that has ever been with us since time memorial....sickness, sadness, suicide . etc...... NO ultimate peace and love of the mind. to make matter worst science is enhancing the ruining of our nature and her inhabitant which are the major sustenance of life.... the chemical added to our crops to enable quick growth become toxin in our system.medication provided to cure the impact of the same toxin is another wahala,because it also add more toxins to the system while removing the formal one .people now lives with medication , what about our unclean air? am sure you aware of global warming......

in short what am saying is science alone can not solve our misery, science should be learn alongside spirituality as one can not stand without one. The deliberate attempt to make Europe become an atheist paradise will only speed up their collapse... and this is same root African is trekking

Scienve has actually made things a lot better than they were. Some years ago we couldn't have this discussion in real time but we are here now.


All religion has done is bring division and destruction among humans. Religion is the root cause of all mans problems.

vaxx:
i notice you are kept in awe for the awareness of the technological wonders of the west... of course you should, science is an important undertaking. But your surprise is not different from the same wonder with which people of ancient look upon sorcerers and magicians that do disappear or turn to different kinds of animal. The magicians then did it to win their audience to secure their comfortable hold on society. the people then trust magic and sorcery than GOD.. today science has also taking the same step, it has succeed in upgrading us to modern slaves. humanity has not really change, the west may look good than Africa but we still all face the same endless worries that has ever been with us since time memorial....sickness, sadness, suicide . etc...... NO ultimate peace and love of the mind. to make matter worst science is enhancing the ruining of our nature and her inhabitant which are the major sustenance of life.... the chemical added to our crops to enable quick growth become toxin in our system.medication provided to cure the impact of the same toxin is another wahala,because it also add more toxins to the system while removing the formal one .people now lives with medication , what about our unclean air? am sure you aware of global warming......

in short what am saying is science alone can not solve our misery, science should be learn alongside spirituality as one can not stand without one. The deliberate attempt to make Europe become an atheist paradise will only speed up their collapse... and this is same root African is trekking

My argument is on why whites are more irreligious than black. I don't have any problem with spirituality in fact spirituality encourages research and creative imagination.

I don't agree with "science is enhancing the ruining of our nature and her inhabitant which are the major sustenance of life..." and other points you mentioned. That's Capitalism and greed at its worst, it is not caused by science.

Finally, if you read the book "why nations fail" you will realize it has do with man-made economic and political situations.

In my trajectory, Africa will collapse before Europe despite being more religious

Emmytes:


Scienve has actually made things a lot better than they were. Some years ago we couldn't have this discussion in real time but we are here now.


All religion has done is bring division and destruction among humans. Religion is the root cause of all mans problems.

then thanks the catholic church for that, if you want to learn, pls read this book....if not catholic the west will still be in their dark ages.

....http://www.amazon.ca/Catholic-Church-Built-Western-Civilization/dp/1596983280....

But if i am asked personally, religion unified people under a set of common ideology that aids in setting objective moral standard... Atheism will never achieve that feet... since morality under atheism philosophy fall under subjective idea... '' ATHEISM IS LIKE A FAKE CURRENCY, IT IS GOOD ON THE SURFACE BUT IT OFFER NO REAL VALUE'' VAXX

vaxx:
then thanks the catholic church for that, if you want to learn, pls read this book....if not catholic the west will still be in their dark ages.

....http://www.amazon.ca/Catholic-Church-Built-Western-Civilization/dp/1596983280....

But if i am asked personally, religion unified people under a set of common ideology that aids in setting objective moral standard... Atheism will never achieve that feet... since morality under atheism philosophy fall under subjective idea... '' ATHEISM IS LIKE A FAKE CURRENCY, IT IS GOOD ON THE SURFACE BUT IT OFFER NO REAL VALUE'' VAXX

What utter rubbish, the west was precisely in the dark ages because of the Catholic church !!

Saverin:


My argument is on why whites are more irreligious than black. I don't have any problem with spirituality in fact spirituality encourages research and creative imagination.

I don't agree with "science is enhancing the ruining of our nature and her inhabitant which are the major sustenance of life..." and other points you mentioned. That's Capitalism and greed at its worst, it is not caused by science.

Finally, if you read the book "why nations fail" you will realize it has do with man-made economic and political situations.

In my trajectory, Africa will collapse before Europe despite being more religious

why do you not agree? why is there shortage of organic food? why is there constant air pollution? what is the benefit of modern medicine that cure one ailment but lives another sickness?

Hippocrates ,the father of medicine said it is nature that cures and not the physician. if our nature is ruined, what will be left for us ,we the inhabitant? ....... All disease are due to accumulation of toxins and waste in the human body, material that are accumulated through the inorganic food we eat, polluted air and so on . hope you are aware of the recent genetic modify food? ask yourself why all these?.....


the tools the politicians are using is science and it fall under man made. spirituality is not their guiding blocks.... if our so call leader merge spirituality with science ,our world will have been a better place by now... as both can not stand alone....... natural and supernatural...it is the gift of man..

frosbel2:


What utter rubbish, the west was precisely in the dark ages because of the Catholic church !!

you can not be smarter than the book. the book is an authority as it contain lot of references....

lady2sexy:
Well I can’t speak for all the white folks the few I have met in my place of work are all irreligious. in fact the few I have worked with mostly from western Europe, US, Canada are strictly anti religion.

Just last week the white folk sent to head our department almost sacked our head of operations because of our usual morning devotion. He yelled at everybody like a mad dog and warned that it should be the last time we bring our god damn unproductive religion obsession to the office. He used all sort of f word to denigrate and insult everybody and blamed the dwindling fortunes of our department on our unproductive religious act. He said instead of mapping out strategies on how to improve and achieve our job objective we resort to clapping, dancing and making noise. though we tried to explain that we have done all those before trying to back it up with prayers but he shouted us down

This is about schedule & priorities.

Your fellowship should come before or after office hours, without constituting nuisance.

Africa will overtake the whites if we walk in love coupled with due consideration to others.

This is what Jesus Christ is all about:

John 13:34 NKJV
A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another; as I have loved you, that you also love one another.

1 Corinthians 12:31 NKJV
But earnestly desire the best gifts. And yet I show you a more excellent way...
........1 Corinthians 13:1-3 NKJV
Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I have become sounding brass or a clanging cymbal.
And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing.
And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, but have not love, it profits me nothing.

If African Christian population walk in true love & due consideration to others, after acquiring the wisdom of the world, the difference will be evident.

Matthew 10:16 NKJV
"Behold, I send you out as sheep in the midst of wolves. Therefore be wise as serpents and harmless as doves.


-Peace.

lady2sexy:
Well I can’t speak for all the white folks the few I have met in my place of work are all irreligious. in fact the few I have worked with mostly from western Europe, US, Canada are strictly anti religion.

Just last week the white folk sent to head our department almost sacked our head of operations because of our usual morning devotion. He yelled at everybody like a mad dog and warned that it should be the last time we bring our god damn unproductive religion obsession to the office. He used all sort of f word to denigrate and insult everybody and blamed the dwindling fortunes of our department on our unproductive religious act. He said instead of mapping out strategies on how to improve and achieve our job objective we resort to clapping, dancing and making noise. though we tried to explain that we have done all those before trying to back it up with prayers but he shouted us down.

The previous white guy that headed our unit ain't religious but he's indifferent about our morning devotion as long as we do our normal safety tips and work meeting. other white guys in the coy are also not really interested about religion. only two out of lot identify themselves as Christians but they are basically non practicing as they know next to nothing in the bible. We understand they are Christians as a result of family background.

This is really serious, they brought religion to us and now they are no longer interested.

guys have any of you witness this anti religious stance while working with white folks. And guys that live abroad especially the western world educate us on how an average white folk perceive religion especially Christianity because if am left with this little experience of mine I would say they are satanist

its very simple, you are there to work. that is what you are being paid for.
your prayer sessions are not impacting on the company bottom line
it is also very irresponsible [though typical of evangelical christians]
if muslims in your office chose to hold a daily morning prayer would you not be offended?
or if some traditionalists did so?
or the indian hindus?

if you are so bothered you can always find a nigerian company that supports that sort of thing. i can think of two off the cuff -
oceanic bank and intercontinental bank. i hear they are very very friendly towards morning devotion. also great places to work and industry leaders.

with your moniker i also wonder just how religious you are anyway - your vanity at the very least must be off the hook

Saverin:


My argument is on why whites are more irreligious than black. I don't have any problem with spirituality in fact spirituality encourages research and creative imagination.

I don't agree with "science is enhancing the ruining of our nature and her inhabitant which are the major sustenance of life..." and other points you mentioned. That's Capitalism and greed at its worst, it is not caused by science.

Finally, if you read the book "why nations fail" you will realize it has do with man-made economic and political situations.

In my trajectory, Africa will collapse before Europe despite being more religious

not sure if white are more irreligious than blacks
more likely whites are not as obsesses with blacks over the appearance and rituals of religiosity

a lot of nigerians have all the trappings of religion but are abominable moral failures with very little actual sense of right and wrong.

vaxx:
why do you not agree? why is there shortage of organic food? why is there constant air pollution? what is the benefit of modern medicine that cure one ailment but lives another sickness?

Hippocrates ,the father of medicine said it is nature that cures and not the physician. if our nature is ruined, what will be left for us ,we the inhabitant? ....... All disease are due to accumulation of toxins and waste in the human body, material that are accumulated through the inorganic food we eat, polluted air and so on . hope you are aware of the recent genetic modify food? ask yourself why all these?.....


the tools the politicians are using is science and it fall under man made. spirituality is not their guiding blocks.... if our so call leader merge spirituality with science ,our world will have been a better place by now... as both can not stand alone....... natural and supernatural...it is the gift of man..

The answer to all your questions is GREED not science. We leave in a world where there is no morality in business. It's a game of price and profit, demand and supply, corruption and shadow government.

If you don't understand what science is Google is your friend. you are mixing things up.

oyb:


not sure if white are more irreligious than blacks
more likely whites are not as obsesses with blacks over the appearance and rituals of religiosity

a lot of nigerians have all the trappings of religion but are abominable moral failures with very little actual sense of right and wrong.

I am talking based on fact not conjecture. type in google "atheism by country"

Saverin:


The answer to all your questions is GREED not science. We leave in a world where there is no morality in business. It's a game of price and profit, demand and supply, corruption and shadow government.

If you don't understand what science is Google is your friend. you are mixing things up.

GREED HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH SCIENCE....you are overlapping....

when you go to the hospital, what they give is drug and not greed, and at the back of the drug a deadly labels reads '' stop use and ask a doctor if new symptoms occur,if redness or swelling is present ,if pain or fever worse, or if nervousness, dizziness , sleeplessness,nausea, or vomiting occur. keep out of reach of children, and taking more than the recommended dose can cause serious health problems,including serious liver damage.in case of overdose, get medical help or contact a poison control center right away.prompt medical attention is critical for adult as well as for children, even if you do not notice any signs of symptoms'' these is science implication not greed..

in case you have no idea what greed means .... contact dictionary, oxford advance learner i recommend

tarboshi:
There are so many things we can learn from the white, from technology to engineering, to science. But when it comes to spirituality, I think they are the ones to learn from us.

So they too can make a spiritual phone or computer to post on nl? So they too can light up their homes with spiritual electricity, or perhaps see in the dark by spiritual means? So they can drive around in spiritual cars perhaps, or close down their hospitals and send the sick to spiritual TBJoshua for healing?

Go read some history. They created spiritual but abandoned it when a better god, that of science and technology, came along.

Why Are Most White Folks Irreligious

They never used to be irreligious. They were in fact no different to we non-whites, up to about the 17 Century, when the likes of Copernicus, Gallileo and Giordano Bruno stuck two fingers up to the religious establishment, but that wasn't the first time they had abandoned their gods.

Do you know that the word 'atheist' was coined to describe people who did not accept or participate in the state religion? Socrates, who derided and questioned the beliefs of his time, would have been an atheist under that definition. He was 'crucified' for that reason, as was Christ for the same reason, as far as the orthodox Jews were concerned. But I digress, my point is the Greeks abandoned the gods of Homer when a superior god called Yahweh came along.

When I was a child, I thought like a child and believed like a child, is how one could put it. Humans tend to just accept what they are told to believe and they defend it with their life if need be. But as time goes by, new generations appear who begin to question those old beliefs by pointing out how ridiculous they are. You could just imagine how ridiculous it sounds to you if I claimed Obatala was sent by Olodumare with corn and a cock with which human beings were created and scattered all over the earth, or that the Greek myths are true and that the things narrated in them are actually happened, or that twins are demonic and we therefore must bash their heads in.

In 10th century England, going to church and paying tithes to the Catholic Church was mandatory, as was praying for the dead. It was in fact the duty of the living to pray, or pay the church to pray, for their dead or they, and the dead, would rot in hell. Praying for the dead became so lucrative that it took 600 years for Martin Luther, the Great Grandaddy of Daddy Freeze, to free people from the blight of Indulgences, which is our tithes of today. He also made the Bible accessible to the masses. Prior to that, the Bible had been kept in a language the masses could not read or understand just so they could be enslaved by those who claimed they were able to read it because they were directly descended from Saint Paul with a direct line to God. Today's version is when Muslims claim the Koran is not the Koran if it is not in Arabic, or when Christians claim the bible cannot be understood by the carnal unspiritual mind. The phrase, 'touch not my anointed', should spring to mind, no one dared question those ancient priests either until just about the 16 Century. Any one who did was crucified.

The thing is, once people read the religious texts themselves, it became harder for the wool to be pulled over their eyes, and once that Pandora''s box opens, the genii is out and can't be put in no more.
I have always said that the best way to stop people believing in gods is to give them the relevant god book. The particular first reader might accept it fell from heaven, their child too might accept what their parents believed, but by the third and fourth generation, the eye will open, and they too will create their own gods.

That, is what has happened in the western world. They have read the books of the old gods, found them to be wanting, and they have created new gods of science with a new religion based on the scientific method. Basically, the Scientific Revolution happened.

P.s. I am going to refer to this as one hell of a shoddy piece on this particular topic. I may write a better version in the future sometime. It deserves it.

vaxx:
GREED HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH SCIENCE....you are overlapping....

when you go to the hospital, what they give is drug and not greed, and at the back of the drug a deadly labels reads '' stop use and ask a doctor if new symptoms occur,if redness or swelling is present ,if pain or fever worse, or if nervousness, dizziness , sleeplessness,nausea, or vomiting occur. keep out of reach of children, and taking more than the recommended dose can cause serious health problems,including serious liver damage.in case of overdose, get medical help or contact a poison control center right away.prompt medical attention is critical for adult as well as for children, even if you do not notice any signs of symptoms'' these is science implication not greed..

in case you have no idea what greed means .... contact dictionary, oxford advance learner i recommend

I don't understand your point of argument any longer. Are you saying we should discard science because of these your so called "implications"?

Saverin:


I don't understand your point of argument any longer. Are you saying we should discard science because of these your so called "implications"?

i never said so, and my first reply to you indicate i support science... i only posit how science is damaging our nature and ruining we the inhabitant. failure to annex science with spirituality is the main cause.

i also correct you when you are trying to overlap greed effect with science effect....

vaxx:
i never said so, and my first reply to you indicate i support science... i only posit how science is damaging our nature and ruining we the inhabitant. failure to annex science with spirituality is the main cause.

i also correct you when you are trying to overlap greed effect with science effect....

i only posit how science is damaging our nature and ruining we the inhabitant

You don't know what science is.

Saverin:




You don't know what science is.

you do not also know what greediness is.

vaxx:
you do not also know what greediness is.

Saverin will now foolishly show you the limited dictionary definition of greed. Greed is a spiritual quality which Atheist experience but can not explain.
I absolutely agree with you Vaxx Sir, when you say, "science is damaging our nature and ruining us the inhabitant. Failure to annex science with spirituality is the main cause.

Saverin:


My argument is on why whites are more irreligious than black. I don't have any problem with spirituality in fact spirituality encourages research and creative imagination.

I don't agree with "science is enhancing the ruining of our nature and her inhabitant which are the major sustenance of life..." and other points you mentioned. That's Capitalism and greed at its worst, it is not caused by science.

Finally, if you read the book "why nations fail" you will realize it has do with man-made economic and political situations.

In my trajectory, Africa will collapse before Europe despite being more religious.

It is because Africa is so religious that they have survived the brute force of European oppression for hundreds of years. If it was reversed and black were the oppressor of whites, the whites would kill themselves or end up in mental asylums.

The Germans are making contingency plans for the collapse of Europe and the breakup of the global order then, presumably, someone at the UK's Defence Academy in Shrivenham is doing the same. It would be better, though, if politicians started engaging the British electorate.

Vaxx makes very valid points about the futility of what I call fake science. ****

Meaningful Progress can only be achieved when lofty religion works with inferior science.

ScienceWatch:
It is because Africa is so religious that they have survived the brute force of European oppression for hundreds of years. If it was reversed and black were the oppressor of whites, the whites would kill themselves or end up in mental asylums.



Meaningful Progress can only be achieved when lofty religion works with inferior science.

hmmmmm, i never thought of it. i concur

vaxx:
hmmmmm, i never thought of it. i concur

White folks are irreligious and atheistic mainly because they have a corrupted sense of materialistic superiority encouraged by hundreds of years of cruel oppression of those they rob of their land and minerals.

White folks will never be able to withstand the suffering they cruelly and willingly impose on blacks.

ScienceWatch:
It is because Africa is so religious that they have survived the brute force of European oppression for hundreds of years. If it was reversed and black were the oppressor of whites, the whites would kill themselves or end up in mental asylums.

The Germans are making contingency plans for the collapse of Europe and the breakup of the global order then, presumably, someone at the UK's Defence Academy in Shrivenham is doing the same. It would be better, though, if politicians started engaging the British electorate.

Vaxx makes very valid points about the futility of what I call fake science. Today Science is causing more serious harm to humanity than all the wars and crime combined.

Meaningful Progress can only be achieved when lofty religion works with inferior science.

It is because Africa is so religious that they have survived the brute force of European oppression for hundreds of years.

You have a poor knowledge of history.

Saverin:


You have a poor knowledge of history.

We've been trying to teach him. But we've not been successful. He has friends who delight in his ignorance.