MoR2:
pep is so good he has brought academic players into his first eleven only once in his career, busquets and pedro.

i like pep o, but some people can overhype eh them fit sell you nylon for tissue.

When did you start to watch football self. Pep gave 22 academy players debut at barca. I hate arguing with people with no football knowledge.

Pep (Oga Ramd Beloved coach) is chasing Hazard (the so called one corner dancer) in a 150M £ deal.

According to Ramd. All Man City wingers are better than Hazard yet He's beloved coach is making Hazard number one summer transfer target.


This world self

hardeycute:
There is little or nothing to contest in your epistle but it is also not how people has come about his "Fraud nature".

I love his style of play but i don't like him and his fanboys.We have heard and read many things about his ingenuity but little is said about his spendings.

He majors in recruiting mercenaries which is evident as we have seen in City and his time at Bayern with having luck with players like Midget, Xavi,Iniesta,Busquets and Pedro being LA Masia graduates while at Barca.

A top manager needs top players to work with no doubt,but we cannot rule out his ridiculous spending while commending him for his brilliance

Well I don't see any mercenaries in his recruitment at city and if it is the exorbitant amount in the players he bought remember the transfer market has been inflated couple with the fact that it has always been a city to spend lavishly.

obainojazz:

No wonder he won 2 trophies in 3 seasons at Madrid and was sacked for being a failure.

MoR2:
pep is so good he has brought academic players into his first eleven only once in his career, busquets and pedro.

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That is Pep on paper but not the reality.

More than £1.2b spent in less than 9yrs of his managerial career

Melvyn11:

No wonder he won 2 trophies in 3 seasons at Madrid and was sacked for being a failure.

He resigned

He wasn't sacked

Obere4u:
Pep (Oga Ramd Beloved coach) is chasing Hazard (the so called one corner dancer) in a 150M £ deal.

According to Ramd. All Man City wingers are better than Hazard yet He's beloved coach is making Hazard number one summer transfer target.


This world self

Deep down within dayo of a guy he knows hazard is too good.



Waiting for him to come and tell us hazard is begging mancity to sign him again.

Ibime:
Alonso is just class in everything he does. His movements, his touch, his interplay, delivery and set pieces. If only he had pace, he would be complete.

Bis, I will like to send you a mail

popizaino:
Well I don't see any mercenaries in his recruitment at city and if it is the exorbitant amount in the players he bought remember the transfer market has been inflated couple with the fact that it has always been a city to spend lavishly.

Pep is not the only culprit neither is City.

Big clubs hunger for success is what lead to desperation and ends up overpaying.

Which of his buys is/are potentials?

MoR2:
you guys played knockout 9times in cl in those 3 and juve was the only top europe team you beat

Give me 7 top teams in Europe and what qualifies them as top class

patrickmuf:
Varane was nothing like a Dembele or Mbappe or Ramos or Stones...

Varane was signed for 10M in 2011 which is a decent amount for a defender then and till today Varane isnt still world class and he surely wasnt world class under Mourinho he even barely made the first 11 under Mourinho

Its like Pep saying Varane is no different from Bartra Thiago etc

patrickmuf:
Xavi a Iniesta played a pivotal role in Spains Euro 2008 win but no, it's Pep who made them what they are...

Yet he was about to be sent away from Barcelona until Guardiola came and turned his fate around to the best midfielder in recent times

MoR2:
were they above 29years of age. so pep didn't have gotze at his prime, lewandoski, kross, muller, lahm, alaba, boateng, javi matinez etc at their prime abi

Pep joined Bayern in 2013 when Ribery was 30 Schweini and Robben were 29, Lahm was 30

popizaino:
yes it is guardiola that made them especially xavi.Gerald pique would couldn't make sir alex ferguson second team was trusted by pep guardiola yet it is only established players guardiola goes for.

eh even a certain pogba became the world best midfielder under conte

no don't mention henry, villa or even ibro that turned from a striker worth 63M to one less than 30M. no don't o, less forget all other players.

even in that 2008 in my ps2 winning eleven then xavi, iniesta and messi were top ballers.

MoR2:
ofcourse because if you be coach na to swap lukaku for lewandoski, vidal for matic, thiago for pogba, bailly for hummels, ddg for neuer, martial for james rodriguez, mata for robben.

shey them be very high grade players.

Lukaku was one of the best strikers in the EPL in the past few years, Pogba was one of the best midfielders in Europe FIFpro member, Mata is a CL winning midfielder and once highest assist giver in the EPL, Matic was one of the best DM in the EPL and DDG is the best keeper in the EPL

In the current City side, I will only pick KDB and Sane into Bayern also

MoR2:
eh even a certain pogba became the world best midfielder under conte

no don't mention henry, villa or even ibro that turned from a striker worth 63M to one less than 30M. no don't o, less forget all other players.

even in that 2008 in my ps2 winning eleven then xavi, iniesta and messi were top ballers.

Xavi was about to be sold by Rijkaard and told he was too short and too slow to play in midfield

http://www.espn.com/soccer/story/1051576/afc?src=com

Obere4u:
Pep (Oga Ramd Beloved coach) is chasing Hazard (the so called one corner dancer) in a 150M £ deal.

According to Ramd. All Man City wingers are better than Hazard yet He's beloved coach is making Hazard number one summer transfer target.


This world self

Fake news, Pep will have nothing to do with Hidden unproductive Hazard, Just another useless journalist looking for clicks

Michy Batshuayi says he does not know if he will still be at Chelsea when the transfer window closes on Wednesday

Does he deserve to keep his place in the team?

raumdeuter:


Xavi was about to be sold by Rijkaard and told he was too short and too slow to play in midfield

http://www.espn.com/soccer/story/1051576/afc?src=com

mehn I don't give a damn if he had to regrow his leg. Even mou sold kdb and noone had the brains to stop him then so lucky lucky Barca.

So pirlo not sold and became the star he was. No tell me that cheap tale bro e no gell at all.

hardeycute:
Pep is not the only culprit neither is City.

Big clubs hunger for success is what lead to desperation and ends up overpaying.

Which of his buys is/are potentials?

Not even sane they all shout about.

raumdeuter:


Fake news, Pep will have nothing to do with Hidden unproductive Hazard, Just another useless journalist looking for clicks

The only aspect of soccer you don't include your emotions is on pep guardiola related issues any other issues on football I think you suck at them.

raumdeuter:


Give me 7 top teams in Europe and what qualifies them as top class

1. Real Madrid
2. Barcelona
3. Bayern
4. Juventus
5. PSG
6. ATM
7. Chelsea
8. Man City

Fashi the numbering this teams are the toughest to far in CL in the past 4 seasons. How many did Bayern beat

Melvyn11:

When did you start to watch football self. Pep gave 22 academy players debut at barca. I hate arguing with people with no football knowledge.

am talking first eleven your talking debut if one of those mou fanatics now go and bring the number of players mou has given debut to you will start shouting like person way them pour hot water for body.

hardeycute:
That is Pep on paper but not the reality.

More than £1.2b spent in less than 9yrs of his managerial career

o boy has Ferguson even spent this amount in his 20+ years of managing at manu

raumdeuter:


Varane was signed for 10M in 2011 which is a decent amount for a defender then and till today Varane isnt still world class and he surely wasnt world class under Mourinho he even barely made the first 11 under Mourinho

Its like Pep saying Varane is no different from Bartra Thiago etc

Varane with clutches will still bench boateng

raumdeuter:


Lukaku was one of the best strikers in the EPL in the past few years, Pogba was one of the best midfielders in Europe FIFpro member, Mata is a CL winning midfielder and once highest assist giver in the EPL, Matic was one of the best DM in the EPL and DDG is the best keeper in the EPL

In the current City side, I will only pick KDB and Sane into Bayern also

so kimmich is better than walker in rb abi. Well done

Anyway it's good you value united players enough to swap them with your over aging retires in your team.

patrickmuf:
It's your folks who think Mourinho is a failure or isn't good enough, yours truly is only here to highlight the low points of Pep...Mourinho failed to win the UCL with Madrid and Chelsea, true...
Pep also failed with Bayern and failed woefully last season...This season? We dey here dey wait.

When Carlo Ancelotti was sacked by Bayern Munich. The decision had mixed responses (my personal take is Ancelotti should have been given a stern ultimatum to turn things around), however I think it puts into perspective the “controversial” tenure of Pep Guardiola at Bayern Munich (controversial solely because he failed to win the CL with them and managed to steamroll Bundesliga, making it look easy).

Let me start off with this post on a Barcelona fanpage from Facebook:

"Pep Guardiola got a treble winning team and didn't win a CL. Ancelotti is brought to do just that."

People tend to forget that when Pep was announced as Bayern's next coach (January 2013), Bayern hadn't won the Bundesliga in the last 2 seasons and hadn't won the Champions League in 12 years. The Champions League before that was 25 years ago, in 1976.

They then went on to win a treble, and people reduced Jupp Heynckes' time at Bayern as godly, when it was only the final months of the final season that Bayern won important trophies. The season before, they finished as runners ups in all three major tournaments. But I wouldn't reduce a coach's tenure to mere trophies. Trophies or no trophies in one season are a result of very small differences in variables. Too many 'what ifs'. Statistically dumb to infer important long term things from them. Bayern played wonderfully in 12-13, in relation to the Bayern style.

Pep Guardiola then took Bayern to new heights in terms of football, offered Bavaria a type of football it hadn't seen before. Players left training sessions in headaches complaining in delight about all the new things they keep learning. German coaches went one over the other to meet and learn from Pep. A footballing revolution, that is also seen in the German NT. Germany played differently before Pep than what they do after him. Anyone who has watched Die Mannschaft for a significant amount of time, knows the structural differences. But Pep didn't win the Champions League. Pep didn't win the one trophy Bayern had won twice in 41 years.

So he got slated.

Ancelotti however was supposed to fix all that, because he doesn't focus on 'boring' football, but rather on winning. The Bayern dressing room fell apart, with players complaining to the board about the lack of knowledge and innovations of Ancelotti regarding the football and training sessions. Players complained to the board saying Ancelotti doesn't do much, and definitely nothing new or different. "It feels more like a Sunday warmup session, run 11 laps, kick the ball' That however, is Ancelotti. Bayern board were warned by Madrid and PSG's people that Ancelotti is known for not doing anything much.

And it's a known fact for those who do not choose to be blinded by the glamour of the big Ancelotti, the one who lost two Liga Clasico's to TATA MARTINO, won ONE league with THAT Milan team. A coach who has won 4 league titles (one in France with PSG) during a 22 year managerial career with teams as AC Milan, PSG, Chelsea, Real Madrid and Bayern Munich. 4 in 22. Carlo Ancelotti who LOST a league with money flooded PSG against Montpellier, a team whose star player was Olivier Giroud. Leagues have always been a more important measure of continued success than knock out tournaments, statistically. In leagues, you have to face every team twice, while in knock outs you're out with a loss in one round against a strong team while some other team probably goes through to the end without facing any major team. It's exciting, but statistically not the best measure.

But let's not talk about trophies. Let's talk about football. There has been no footballing revolution or culture that Carlo Ancelotti has stemmed, created or left. He repeats some things from Sacchi and that's it.

The current, running footballing scenarios pose too much attention on people who win than people who change the landscape, bring new things and make the game better.

But history, history always remembers the ones who changed things. Herrera, Michels, Cruijff, Sacchi, Pep are admired for their trophies too, but more so for what they gave to football. How they changed the game into a more exciting one.

Ancelotti has given nothing such.

-KDP

Now let’s come to Guardiola’s CL failures at Bayern. In that humiliating 4–0 loss to Real Madrid, it has been explicitly revealed by Philipp Lahm that the players themselves ditched Pep’s tactics. Its a total failure on his part to rein in his players then and worthy of criticizing (not the tactical angle however). In the 2014–15 semis against Barcelona, he went in missing some key players and gave a real fight to Barcelona (yes, he did. Don’t let that 3–0 scoreline in Camp Nou fool you. Before Messi went nuts, I thought that match was headed to a draw). In the 2015–16 CL, Bayern crushed Atletico tactically in the second leg (Pep’s first leg tactics were worthy of critique) and were sorely unlucky to miss out (I genuinely had thought that season Bayern would win the treble, Pep had built a machine). Only once could he be really blamed for screwing up the CL campaign.

Beyond not winning the CL, I think Pep left a legacy in Germany. Julian Nagelsmann cites Guardiola as an inspiration along with Thomas Tuchel and Tuchel himself has hailed Guardiola (think Tuchel might have taken tactical lessons from Guardiola as well, though it hasn’t been stated explicitly). Jupp Heynckes also praised Guardiola (yes he did- Bayern Munich news: Heynckes hails Pep Guardiola after record title - Goal.com). German NT adapted Pep’s tactics and won the WC (Will England learn from Guardiola like Spain and Germany did? | Goal.com, The teams that Pep built: how Guardiola helped Spain & Germany win the World Cup - Goal.com) and Joachim Loew has praised Guardiola’s time in Germany (Loew says Guardiola left his mark on Bayern and Bundesliga). Guardiola didn’t win the Champions League for Bayern Munich, but it looks like he did have a positive effect on German football in general.

It is foolish to deny a legacy acknowledged by a coach’s peers based on the one tournament they didn’t win. SAF won the CL twice in 20+ years, Ancelotti has also bottled some CL campaigns (Istanbul 2005 and Deportivo 2004). Even Jose Mourinho doesn’t win CL every year. But they are remembered for their victories. Think Guardiola is the only manager who gets all the stick for his failures but nothing to very little praise for his successes.

PS- if your comment is the usual Guardiola destroyed Bayern etc, I won’t bother responding.

Eruditor:


Journalist to Wenger: Mou says your team, Liverpool and City are the big horses. CFC is a small horse.

Wenger: I don't agree

Journalist: Well, he says they were never in contention for the league and are only fighting for the UCL places. That next season they will compete.

Wenger: Well, we (AFC) are in it to win it. If you rule yourself out, you cannot say you lost the league.


They ask Jose something else to rile him. And instead of taking an honorable path....goes below the belt.

Same Mou the eye-gouger. Who poked the eye of a very sick Tito.

And people are defending him. Shame.

can you show us a link to the interview from 2 reputable websites?

raumdeuter:


Fake news, Pep will have nothing to do with Hidden unproductive Hazard, Just another useless journalist looking for clicks

Na from Man City fan twitter handle I see the news.

Greatihex:
can you show us a link to the interview from 2 reputable websites?

I paraphrased because my memory is only semi-photographic. But the gist was essentially what I said there. Instead of looking for a link (which you can do yourself), look for the YouTube video of Wenger answering the questions posed at him. That interview was shortly before Wenger celebrated 1000 games in Arsenal and shortly before he lost 6-0 to Mou.

Do your due diligence and see if you come up with Wenger insulting Mou.