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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 8:39am On Jan 30, 2018
Eruditor:


Don't worry; you can lie to yourselves to feel good but City have been chasing the man since 2011 at least.

As for the rest of the drivel...it is what it is...drivel.

Pep should raise Sagna's value to 40M then sell him before he can buy Walker for 50M.

No, I am not evading that (il)logical statement when I don't respond to it. I have this covert belief that if I ignore it long enough, you would see how senseless the reasoning is. Along with the one that a manager who is sure-fire going to win the league has been spending cash to win a trophy when he clearly dodged 75M VVD and 500-600k a week Sanchez.

Commonsense did not say that if he was a desperado l'omo, he would have gone gung-ho like some people I know.
ahan! So City been chasing Pep since 2011 but he refused to go right? Could it be the promise of plenty cash to spend was what changed his mind especially when he looked at how Bayern were unwilling to spend this kind of amount?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Eruditor: 8:43am On Jan 30, 2018
nezzar:

Ode nie

Mou was active for 3 yrs
pep was active for 3.5 yrs




You have started first but will cry foul when it is dished back.

Mou's active years is 3. Humor me. He came back to CFC 2013 and was sacked 2015. 6 months after he became United manager and we are in 2018.

He won 1 EPL, 2 Carling cups, 1 community shield for United and 1 Europa.

In that same time frame Pep won: Bundesliga 2013-2016 (3), DFP-pokal (2), Super Cup, World Club Cup. Total (7)

Even Wenger has won 3 Community shields. 3 FA Cups. (6)

And you called me Ode.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Eruditor: 8:45am On Jan 30, 2018
eph12:

ahan! So City been chasing Pep since 2011 but he refused to go right? Could it be the promise of plenty cash to spend was what changed his mind especially when he looked at how Bayern were unwilling to spend this kind of amount?

LOL City wanted him to rebuild their squad before Pelle. They have wanted him to do so for ages. Other clubs too including your own. Ask Fergie. Did Pelle have limitations in spending?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Eruditor: 8:48am On Jan 30, 2018
MoR2:
so what is the reason for their expenses. PSG i understand city i don't you mentioned united's expenses since 2012 do you know city's own.

spending 900M pounds since 2012 and now have a deficit of 200M even chelsea has just a deficit of 18M spending 170M lesser than city have been competitive so what is city's agenda, what's their angel, their game plan. when a manager has that kind of decifit spending HALF A BILLION POUNDS he had better win the champions league.

I don't know what you mean by deficit or that you understand PSG's own.

PSG on Neymar and Mbappe alone have pushed 400m+

I am tired.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nezzar: 8:49am On Jan 30, 2018
Eruditor:


You have started first but will cry foul when it is dished back.

Mou's active years is 3. Humor me. He came back to CFC 2013 and was sacked 2015. 6 months after he became United manager and we are in 2018.

He won 1 EPL, 2 Carling cups, 1 community shield for United and 1 Europa.

In that same time frame Pep won: Bundesliga 2013-2016 (3), DFP-pokal (2), Super Cup, World Club Cup. Total (7)

Even Wenger has won 3 Community shields. 3 FA Cups. (6)

And you called me Ode.
We are talking of the past 3 yrs

This ur hypocrisy ehn
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Eruditor: 8:51am On Jan 30, 2018
patrickmuf:
Manchester United owes close to a billion but if you're asked to provide facts that support your claim, you will start jumping from pillar to post...

He also said Sanchez was a quick fix because he choose Manchester United but when Pep was in for him and everything seemed done with City, we heard he was the perfect player, the Pep killed d of striker, the one to play false one and implement Pep ideas better than the washed up Aguero...

Una hypocrisy no get rival.

City are winning well without Alexis. Alexis was going to be a luxury player for the UCL. They have only 2 strikers.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 8:55am On Jan 30, 2018
patrickmuf:
Manchester United owes close to a billion but if you're asked to provide facts that support your claim, you will start jumping from pillar to post...

He also said Sanchez was a quick fix because he choose Manchester United but when Pep was in for him and everything seemed done with City, we heard he was the perfect player, the Pep killed d of striker, the one to play false one and implement Pep ideas better than the washed up Aguero...

Una hypocrisy no get rival.

All these Pep Fraudiola nobodies are annoying TBVH. The hypocrisy no be here

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Eruditor: 8:56am On Jan 30, 2018
nezzar:

We are talking of the past 3 yrs

This ur hypocrisy ehn

That is why it is a crime for 2 stoopid parents to procreate.

If it is 3 years then why is the table using 3.5 years for some managers? Don't answer. Why is 3 years even being used as the basis?

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by MoR2(m): 8:57am On Jan 30, 2018
Eruditor:


There are close to 10, 000 professional footballers across Europe alone. Any demographics that has 15/10,000 shows you have a poor sample to make your case + Nobody will rebuild teams with this players above.

Pep does not EVER price out players so if you are trying to rationalise his spendings he will come out unscathed.

There are no 90Ms, 80Ms signings.

Walker, Stones, Gab Jesus, Laporte, Mendy were all purchased at the prevalent market price. Once a club called something arbitrary, Pep and City looked elsewhere. There is nothing untoward about his spendings.
so conte did what nobody could by getting pirlo and building the foundation of the juve we see today, the same pirlo allergi deemed too old. conte didn't get rid of bazgali, chelini or bufon he didn't release half his team because he needed to win.

pep doesn't out prize players neither does he buy cheap options.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nezzar: 8:58am On Jan 30, 2018
Eruditor:


That is why it is a crime for 2 stoopid parents to procreate.

If it is 3 years then why is the table using 3.5 years for some managers? Don't answer. Why is 3 years even being used as the basis?
Okay let me use their whole coaching career

Hope u won't tell me that this proof is wrong again cheesy cheesy

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Eruditor: 9:01am On Jan 30, 2018
patrickmuf:

Now, tell us if any Manager in the world has spent as much as Pep who has only been in the game for 9 years as a coach...The ratio of amount spent per trophy will leave you shocked...


I have done the analysis before. Mou just about edges it.

You cannot ingenuously remove his early years when you want to say he could not win much in those small clubs, and then bring it back to divide how much he has spent with the years he has stayed in football.

A proper analysis will involve starting from when he came to Chelsea as they are the first true club he got to that could really spend.

I won't bring in inflation because it affects both managers now - including Wenger.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Eruditor: 9:02am On Jan 30, 2018
nezzar:

Okay let me use their whole coaching career

Hope u won't tell me that this proof is wrong again cheesy cheesy

Thank you. One has coached for 18 years to the other's 9. And only 2 "trophies" separate them (which will be covered come May).

LOL

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m): 9:03am On Jan 30, 2018
It seems many Folks here are on Night Shift, coz I'm finding it hard to comprehend the Reason for the back and forth Argument from last Night till this Morning!

Hian..... you Folks are needed on the Floor of Senate or House of Assembly to discussing Bills that gonna improve the living Conditions of every Nigerian.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Eruditor: 9:06am On Jan 30, 2018
MoR2:
so conte did what nobody could by getting pirlo and building the foundation of the juve we see today, the same pirlo allergi deemed too old. conte didn't get rid of bazgali, chelini or bufon he didn't release half his team because he needed to win.

pep doesn't out prize players neither does he buy cheap options.

Please, leave Conte out for now. And no that team was built on Vidal not Pirlo. I have made the argument before. See how uber-useless that Juve was outside their league?

No good player is "cheap" but some clubs are more desperate than others to get them. Salah was not cheap but he was not overpriced. Same as Mane.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by MoR2(m): 9:06am On Jan 30, 2018
patrickmuf:
Manchester United owes close to a billion but if you're asked to provide facts that support your claim, you will start jumping from pillar to post...

He also said Sanchez was a quick fix because he choose Manchester United but when Pep was in for him and everything seemed done with City, we heard he was the perfect player, the Pep killed d of striker, the one to play false one and implement Pep ideas better than the washed up Aguero...

Una hypocrisy no get rival.
thats how if they sell aguero for 35M they will say it's because aguero is washed up is that not the gospel according to dayo. too bad he already has many prophets spread that lie and worshiping his holiness pope pep.


NB- i do agree that pep is the best manager in the world.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by MoR2(m): 9:10am On Jan 30, 2018
eph12:

ahan! So City been chasing Pep since 2011 but he refused to go right? Could it be the promise of plenty cash to spend was what changed his mind especially when he looked at how Bayern were unwilling to spend this kind of amount?
even jupp didn't have the resources pep had yet succeeded more than he did.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nezzar: 9:12am On Jan 30, 2018
Eruditor:


Thank you. One has coached for 18 years to the other's 9. And only 2 "trophies" separate them (which will be covered come May).

LOL
didn't add the trophies for Manu

Pep can never be better than Mou
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by MoR2(m): 9:13am On Jan 30, 2018
Eruditor:

I don't know what you mean by deficit or that you understand PSG's own.
PSG on Neymar and Mbappe alone have pushed 400m+
I am tired.
have they paid for mbappe? NO
its just like saying bayern have paid us the 55M for james rodriguez already.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by MoR2(m): 9:15am On Jan 30, 2018
nezzar:

We are talking of the past 3 yrs

This ur hypocrisy ehn
for someone thats an erudite he sure calculates with an abacus
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elrony(m): 9:19am On Jan 30, 2018
patrickmuf:
Is he spending more per trophy won? Don't be a coward, take up the challenge...

You'll use your hand to kill yourself.

Lwkmd cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy

Abi he has already cemented his tomb !!

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elrony(m): 9:20am On Jan 30, 2018
patrickmuf:
The guy just dey misyarn anyhow...

Lol...foaming in the mouth upandan cheesy cheesy cheesy

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elrony(m): 9:22am On Jan 30, 2018
patrickmuf:
Clutching at straws, the competition then was greater, it was more difficult to win as you had more worthy challengers...

Talking about inflation, 60-70 in 2004 is equivalent to the fee quoted for Neymar now...You shout inflation upandan like you know how it works...

Keep knockin sense into that random skull cheesy

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 9:25am On Jan 30, 2018
raumdeuter:


How many games did Casemiro play under Mourinho, Same with Morata and Nacho. Imagine Nacho is now world class

who promoted them? is that not your question? Even if they played 1 minute
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 9:32am On Jan 30, 2018
Eruditor:


City are winning well without Alexis. Alexis was going to be a luxury player for the UCL. They have only 2 strikers.
City have won nothing, in the season City won the league on goal difference, we were 11 points ahead around February or thereabout but we lost it.

Arsenal have surrendered more than 12 point lead in the past, same with Newcastle so this talk about winning doesn't translate to trophies if you must know.

How would Alexis who would've forced Pep to ditch Aguero or send Sane to the RW be a luxury is beyond me, Man City had a 60m bid accepted at the last day of the summer transfer market accepted by Arsenal only for the deal to collapse because Arsenal couldn't get a replacement, he was gonna join them now before a bigger team swooped in...All this money and effort for a luxury player? The excuses are getting ridiculous by the day.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 9:36am On Jan 30, 2018
Eruditor:


I have done the analysis before. Mou just about edges it.

You cannot ingenuously remove his early years when you want to say he could not win much in those small clubs, and then bring it back to divide how much he has spent with the years he has stayed in football.

A proper analysis will involve starting from when he came to Chelsea as they are the first true club he got to that could really spend.

I won't bring in inflation because it affects both managers now - including Wenger.
But you guys factored in those early years when are jumping upandan shouting 18 years, no?

We should start counting from his time at Chelsea, why? How about his Porto days?

Guys, you can see how he is doing himself in, when we are talking about trophies, Mourinho has spent 18 years as a manager...

When we're refer to money spent, we should start counting from his Chelsea days...

It's funny, isn't it?

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by MoR2(m): 9:39am On Jan 30, 2018
Eruditor:


Please, leave Conte out for now. And no that team was built on Vidal not Pirlo. I have made the argument before. See how uber-useless that Juve was outside their league?

No good player is "cheap" but some clubs are more desperate than others to get them. Salah was not cheap but he was not overpriced. Same as Mane.
shocked na joke you dey crack or wetin

pirlo that won serie a player of the year 2012 2013 and 2014 and was in team of the year 2012, 2013 when vidal was then include and also 2014, and 2015 4 times, where was vidal even pogba had to learn to start playing 10 in the absence of pirlo. yes vidal help juve reach cl 2015 finals but so did morata and even juan cuadrado.

if you made that argument before, i was not there and you fit be no be you win am.

no good player is cheap, how much did chelsea buy alonso, rudiger, how much did united buy baily, how much did madrid buy valejo, theo, harif, kovacic, cellebos, casemiro, varane, asensio etc
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 9:57am On Jan 30, 2018
patrickmuf:
But you guys factor in those early years when are jumping ulandan shouting 18 years, no?

We should start counting from his time at Chelsea, why? How about his Porto days?

Guys, you can see how he is doing himself in, when we are talking about trophies, Mourinho has spent 18 years as a manager...

When we're refer to money spent, we should start counting from his Chelsea days...

It's funny, isn't it?

Just forget those guys. There's a possibility all of them are alter egos of Baba Dayo.

Where do you think Sanchez will operate from? One thing I'll want him to bring to the table is improved pressing for the ball in the opponent's half. Martial used to have it until Rooney influenced him. I'd like to see him, Lingard, Alexis, and Lukaku forcing errors from the opposition right in their own half, which could lead to goals.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Bibidear(f): 10:21am On Jan 30, 2018
Leyqute:


Just forget those guys. There's a possibility all of them are alter egos of Baba Dayo.

Where do you think Sanchez will operate from? One thing I'll want him to bring to the table is improved pressing for the ball in the opponent's half. Martial used to have it until Rooney influenced him. I'd like to see him, Lingard, Alexis, and Lukaku forcing errors from the opposition right in their own half, which could lead to goals.
tomorrow will determine.....hope manutd beats tottenham
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Tomoyayi(m): 10:28am On Jan 30, 2018
Bibidear:

tomorrow will determine.....hope manutd beats tottenham


Man u to win 3-1
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Bibidear(f): 10:31am On Jan 30, 2018
Tomoyayi:


Man u to win 3-1
are u a united fan
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nezzar: 10:31am On Jan 30, 2018
Tomoyayi:



Man u to win 3-1
lmao....They won our youth team

3-1 was the scoreline cheesy cheesy

Hoping for a sweet revenge
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Tomoyayi(m): 10:34am On Jan 30, 2018
Bibidear:

are u a united fan

Yup

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