positivethought:
The idea if middle belt though lofty but it can't work for the simple reasons that States such as kogi,kwara,Niger n nasarawa with large Muslim population will always prefer to go with the caliphate n sabotage any effort gears towards otherwise, so Benue n plateau States should just better begin to think of how to organise themselves n stay strong because they are the major target of the core north Hausa/Fulani oligarchy towards total domination n absolute control of the north period.

hmabdool:


lol for ur information, most emirs in North including kwara, Niger and kogi have Hausa Fulani blood running in there veins...i rather be associated with HAUSA Fulani than to be associated with TIV militias...lol

positivethought:
If your assertion is true then how come the Christian finds it impossible to produce the state Governor time without number?, Christians from Adamawa will always make the same claim yet apart from the gifts of Boni Haruna n James Ngilari the Christian are yet to win a real electoral contest in Adamawa just like your nasarawa, how do you explain this irony?.

9jja:


The day the middle belt and south south people will realize that the Igbos are not their problems that will be the day the beginning to the end of their problem will start.

Even Asaba don't call themselves Igbos. To them (south south people) aligning with the Igbos is slavery but the whole oil well in their backyard is owned by the northerners. Una well done o.

abouzaid:
I lived in the middle belt for six years and yet I could not understand their desperation to be identified as north,I couldn't believe they voted massively for Buhari at a time Fulani herdsmen were killing them non stop. northern Christians also have an intense hatred for igbos and slavish servitude to Fulani. I really wonder if those people have sense at all.

Nowenuse:


Just the same way you cannot really explain how the Hausas and muslims are dominating yorubas and Igbos together, and other christians politically, when infact christians outnumber muslims in Nigeria.

It is a systemic thing. Islam as a religion has always promoted politics among it's people. Whereas the kind of very orthodox and conservative christianity that was brought to most northern christians has always taught us that politics is a bad thing and a dirty game played by candidates of hell fire. Muslims on the other hand have always been taught that it is an abomination for infidels to rule over them, hence they must take politics as a do or die affair and do anything possible to rule over infidels.

The mentality is the problem. Muslims discuss politics in their mosques and how to dominate their terrain, if not now but in the nearest future.

Another reason, is that, Islam teaches you that religious bond is greater than your tribe or your race, but christianity doesn't. This is why you see all muslims drop their tribal differences and support one candidate, but christians will rather fight each other based on tribes.
In Nasarawa state, the muslims have succesfully pitched other christians against the Eggon/Mada people (who are the largest tribe and christian population in the state).. ...So, an Alago christian for instance would rather vote his fellow Alago muslim than an Eggon Christian. Just like the way Igbos are treated by other christians in Nigeria sometimes. ........ But where we christians are foolish is that we don't know than an Alago muslim for instance will rather vote a Hausa man who shares the same religion with him than his fellow Alago who is a christian. It's all tribalism.

This is why Adamawa south, which is clearly and unarguably Christian majority (75% christian) senatorial district, but has a muslim senator! Tribalism!

Most Chamba christians preferred to Support a Chamba muslim canidate than a Bachama christian candidate. Now, the Chambas commanding a very large christian population of the zone, definitely need to join the other predominantly christian tribes for christians to always dominate the zone, but no, they rather support their muslim chamba people in the name of tribal solidarity over religious solidarity. Just like Yoruba christians will rather go with the agenda of yoruba muslims over an Igbo agenda like you saw in the last election.

Christians have no religious solidarity unlike muslims.

Awoo88:
Very true!! I Awoo88 was confused and still am. Read 'true' my post and see.q

Nowenuse:
Just the same way you cannot really explain how the Hausas and muslims are dominating yorubas and Igbos together, and other christians politically, when infact christians outnumber muslims in Nigeria.

It is a systemic thing. Islam as a religion has always promoted politics among it's people. Whereas the kind of very orthodox and conservative christianity that was brought to most northern christians has always taught us that politics is a bad thing and a dirty game played by candidates of hell fire. Muslims on the other hand have always been taught that it is an abomination for infidels to rule over them, hence they must take politics as a do or die affair and do anything possible to rule over infidels.

The mentality is the problem. Muslims discuss politics in their mosques and how to dominate their terrain, if not now but in the nearest future.

Another reason, is that, Islam teaches you that religious bond is greater than your tribe or your race, but christianity doesn't. This is why you see all muslims drop their tribal differences and support one candidate, but christians will rather fight each other based on tribes.

In Nasarawa state, the muslims have succesfully pitched other christians against the Eggon/Mada people (who are the largest tribe and christian population in the state).. ...So, an Alago christian for instance would rather vote his fellow Alago muslim than an Eggon Christian. Just like the way Igbos are treated by other christians in Nigeria sometimes. ........ But where we christians are foolish, is that we don't know than an Alago muslim for instance will rather vote a Hausa man who shares the same religion with him, than his fellow Alago who is a christian. It's all tribalism.

This is why Adamawa south, which is clearly and unarguably Christian majority (75% christian) senatorial district, but has a muslim senator! Tribalism!

Most Chamba christians preferred to Support a Chamba muslim candidate, than a Bachama christian candidate. Now, the Chambas commanding a very large christian population of the zone, definitely need to join the other predominantly christian tribes for christians to always dominate the zone, but no, they rather support their muslim chamba people in the name of tribal solidarity over religious solidarity. Just like Yoruba christians will rather go with the agenda of yoruba muslims over an Igbo agenda like you saw in the last election.

Christians have no religious solidarity unlike muslims.

Nowenuse:
There are no emirates in Kogi states. Where are they?

Nowenuse:
What a very stupid and senseless comment. Can you tell me which northern christians have a slavish attitude for fulanis? Do you know that there are so many northern christian communities in Adamawa, Plateau, Taraba, Southern Kaduna and Southern Bauchi that Hausa fulani muslims cannot dare stay?

Nowenuse:
If the Igbos themselves were a better organized people, don't you think middlebelt and southern minorities will easily look up to you guys for leadership?

LaudableXX:

And everyone can see where your own lies have driven you to...can't they?

Nowenuse:


Just the same way you cannot really explain how the Hausas and muslims are dominating yorubas and Igbos together, and other christians politically, when infact christians outnumber muslims in Nigeria.

It is a systemic thing. Islam as a religion has always promoted politics among it's people. Whereas the kind of very orthodox and conservative christianity that was brought to most northern christians has always taught us that politics is a bad thing and a dirty game played by candidates of hell fire. Muslims on the other hand have always been taught that it is an abomination for infidels to rule over them, hence they must take politics as a do or die affair and do anything possible to rule over infidels.

The mentality is the problem. Muslims discuss politics in their mosques and how to dominate their terrain, if not now but in the nearest future.

Another reason, is that, Islam teaches you that religious bond is greater than your tribe or your race, but christianity doesn't. This is why you see all muslims drop their tribal differences and support one candidate, but christians will rather fight each other based on tribes.
In Nasarawa state, the muslims have succesfully pitched other christians against the Eggon/Mada people (who are the largest tribe and christian population in the state).. ...So, an Alago christian for instance would rather vote his fellow Alago muslim than an Eggon Christian. Just like the way Igbos are treated by other christians in Nigeria sometimes. ........ But where we christians are foolish is that we don't know than an Alago muslim for instance will rather vote a Hausa man who shares the same religion with him than his fellow Alago who is a christian. It's all tribalism.

This is why Adamawa south, which is clearly and unarguably Christian majority (75% christian) senatorial district, but has a muslim senator! Tribalism!

Most Chamba christians preferred to Support a Chamba muslim canidate than a Bachama christian candidate. Now, the Chambas commanding a very large christian population of the zone, definitely need to join the other predominantly christian tribes for christians to always dominate the zone, but no, they rather support their muslim chamba people in the name of tribal solidarity over religious solidarity. Just like Yoruba christians will rather go with the agenda of yoruba muslims over an Igbo agenda like you saw in the last election.

Christians have no religious solidarity unlike muslims.

Nowenuse:


You forgot Taraba. Most people from Nasarawa, Adamawa and Kaduna are also typically anti caliphate, the only problem is that pro-caliphate populations in these states are also large too and politically subjugate the anti caliphate masses.

LaudableXX:
Very true!! I LaudableXX was confused and still am. Read 'true' my post and see.

Nowenuse:


Do you think the people of Niger state care any less? The majority of them are muslims, who were conquered by fulanis and ruled by emirates. These are the types who have been sabotaging the middlebelt struggle due to their religious bond with hausa fulanis.

Many of these kinds are also in Kogi and Nasarawa, but they are minority over there.

The previous governor of Niger was a Hausa man who claimed to be from Minna but is originally from Sokoto, the same thing with the current governor. So, it has already happened.

Nowenuse:


Middlebelt people may claim to be arewa because, that's the identity that was given to their grandfathers by the British who connived with the Hausa fulanis and deceived them.

Most of the younger generations like us no longer support the hypocrisy of one Arewa, cos we have seen through the deceit. The problem is the older generation.

I myself for instance always caution my mother whenever I hear her identify us as Arewa people.

Nowenuse:


If the Igbos themselves were a better organized people, don't you think we middlebelt and southern minorities will easily look up to you guys for leadership?

Nonaira1:


You're an complete idiot for saying that. You're a complete fool.
Which Asaba are you are talking about. Maybe the one in your foolish heac

Awoo88:
Very true!! I was confused and still am. Read 'true' my post and see.

9jja:
I was well trained by God fearing parents.

As a Christian I bless and not curse therefore look for your mates.

LaudableXX:
Very true!! I was confused and still am. Read 'true' my post and see.

LaudableXX:

Hehehe....una just wan take take laugh kill person for here! See as you just finish di guy. Are you using style to tell us that he was not well trained from home?

positivethought:
you are still repeating what I said just in a different form.

positivethought:
yes you are right, having known this, it's time to start enlightening our people, slowly but surely. keep up the mentality n good luck.

ClumsyFlimsy:

You might be right bro


But there a lot of Christians in Niger state

The major indigenes from Niger state are the gbagi/gwari tribe and nupe. Majority of them are Christians too.


Seriously every other region that is not core North needs to sit up. It's time we all put core North in their place. Enough is enough.
Fulani are savage beasts and they believe Nigeria is theirs for the taking. They have subdued Hausa and Yoruba in illorin and now they have spread their target through out Niger state, Nasarawa, southern kaduna, some parts if adamawa, kogi and benue state.


Nigeria is backward today because of the core north; imagine having almajiris scattered everywhere like animals. These are part the foot soldiers used during sharia etc. And they even recruit many of them into Nigerian army once they come of age.


If we all don't unite and face the hausa/fulani; Nigeria will remain a shithole

ClumsyFlimsy:

Seriously you are really a smart fellow.


As an igbo man; whenever I see a northern Christian who isn't from the core North claiming arewa; it pains me to the bone, because I understand this core northern Muslims and I have had some of them as friends to the extent they were trying to lure abi convince me to convert to islam; but I refused jor. What I am trying to say is that this core northern Muslims are very greedy and most of them hate every other person that is not a core northern muslim.
In fact they see the Yoruba Muslims, nupe /gwari muslims and all other fake Muslims as their slaves and willing tool.
Believe me their plan is to conquer and rule the whole Nigeria.



You enlightened once need to emancipate your people it's high time you create awareness; tell your people that you aren't arewa, tell your people the evil plans of the hausa/Fulani.

Don't let them tell you your identity
Arewa is not a general middle belt language it belongs to hausa/fulani and it is a divide and conquer word

Nowenuse:


You have said nothing but the truth.
I used to be an administrator of the largest online middlebelt forum. I have been able to convince thousands of my people why we can never be Arewa. In the past, I myself used to claim Arewa, not until I did a lot of historical digging and fact finding.
I am just a little bit financially incapacitated right now, if not, I would have started an offline group that willl mobilize our people towards this effect. Cos I have observed that no existing group from the region (including the so called middlebelt groups) understand what it takes to emancipate our people and establlish a unique identity for our people. The president of this group and person in charge of this statement Emma Zopmal is my friend.


Just for the records, most Nupes are muslims (like 75%). While the Gbagyis in Niger state are like 50-50. It is the gbagyis of Abuja, Nasarawa & Southern Kaduna that are predominantly christians. Those in Niger state have been heavily infiltrated by Hausa fulanis.

The tribes of Niger north (Kamuku, Kambari, Shingini, Dakarkari, Zuru, Dukawa e.t.c) are 50/50 or even slightly predominantly christians, same with Kebbi south senatorial district, but fulanis have largely infiltrated this region, brainwashed the indigenous muslims to their support, dominated and trampled upon these indigene christians.


Our elders like Yakubu Gowon who were deeceived into one Arewa, sold us out. But God willing, in the nearest future, the youths will emerge and say enough of this nonsense.

ogwucheveekee:
Why won't the middle belts have hatred for the Igbos.tribalistic, bias, people. So the hatred is mutual we are learning from them