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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 5:34pm On Feb 02, 2018
I am trying to find those comments that stated this though.
junnyjake:


Not when on this thread people are against their invitation to camp simply because they are not World Class.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 5:34pm On Feb 02, 2018
CSKA MOSCOW is playing a friendly match right now and its still going on,the scores is 1-1 Ahmed Musa got the goal for CSKA MOSCOW

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 5:40pm On Feb 02, 2018
Kog45:
No my man,Keshi singlehandedly called Leon Balogun and had his debut against Mexico but got injured.

Ekong Troost was just too average or let me say below average,so he couldn't make the team,it was absence of Omeruo at Olympics that gave him the chance.

Pls go and watch Olympics again and you will agree with me that Super eagles contribute a lot to the development of Ekong.

Pls point of correction i never mentioned Uduokhai should be a world class before he can be invited,it seems you are mixing things up.

It depends on where you joined the conversation.

I've noticed a trend here that on mentioning a foreign born, the first question they ask you is 'Is he World Class?' 'He's overhyped, and he's just another average player' as if we have a World Class Squad. I was merely trying to open people's eyes to their faulty stand and their annoying double standards when it comes to FBs. I'm not including you among them.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 5:41pm On Feb 02, 2018
Musa and moscow!
andrew444:
CSKA MOSCOW is playing a friendly match right now and its still going on,the scores is 1-1 Ahmed Musa got the goal for CSKA MOSCOW

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AIG07: 5:41pm On Feb 02, 2018
On Ighalo, here is my PERSONAL view with some stat.

ODION IGHALO is not yet a Sure Starter in the GWG. Dude gets lot of competitions.

The notion that he is the First Choice Striker is pure Fallacy.

Under Rohr, Ighalo only made the bench ONCE in Rohr's first 5-6 games. Kelechi and Ideye(he led once alongside KI against Zamb) were the ones leading Eagles attack. Kelechi went on to score in 4 of those matches.

Odion was recalled after the defeat to SA to re-inforce the attack and he scored against Cameroon in the 4-0 win going on to feature in two more games ending with the 1-0 win against Zambia in Uyo without scoring.

*3matches 1goal*

He started those games because of Kelechi's loss in form.

The truth of the matter is that Dude will have to FIGHT to get back to the starting 11 and If KI hits and continues in his top form. I see the fight becoming fiercer.

Note: Don't forget Nacho brings another skill set into the team-HIS FREEKICKs and that will always be a plus for a team who lacks specialist in dead ball kicks and that alone can give him d edge over Odion.

I don't have anything against any player but the truth I must say. Though it might be too hard to swallow.

O PARI!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 5:42pm On Feb 02, 2018
Kog45:
No my man,Keshi singlehandedly called Leon Balogun and had his debut against Mexico but got injured.

Ekong Troost was just too average or let me say below average,so he couldn't make the team,it was absence of Omeruo at Olympics that gave him the chance.

Pls go and watch Olympics again and you will agree with me that Super eagles contribute a lot to the development of Ekong.

Pls point of correction i never mentioned Uduokhai should be a world class before he can be invited,it seems you are mixing things up.

Yeah, the Olympics really improved Troost, he played every single minute of the competition.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 5:42pm On Feb 02, 2018
somehow:
But Omeruo isn't even among the first 3 CBs na lol

Anyways, i know Omeue is not above average and not even average hence the reason he doesn't even start for us IMO.

His height is a plus to the NT if ROhr gets him to play.

He can replace Balogun or Ekong if needed.

Eye for a pass, confident, good on his feet and fast. Better on the ball than Ekong, faster than Balogun.

Balogun needs to start playing regularly to be in good shape.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 5:44pm On Feb 02, 2018
bengine:


The Osimhen I saw against hannover looked pretty strong playing as a CF...helped his team hold up play well as the lone forward,he reminds me of drogba.. if he keeps getting games, I think he might just be our third striker..

Note: I had to watch the full game to assess his performance..his team barely created any chance for him..

Osimhen had a very strong first start. People will start to see why Rohr rated him so highly. I hope he continues to play.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Daejoyoung: 5:46pm On Feb 02, 2018
tbaba1234:


Osimhen had a very strong first start. People will start to see why Rohr rated him so highly. I hope he continues to play.
That's Nice.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 5:46pm On Feb 02, 2018
yea we know Balogun is currently not fit.
I have watched this GUY play against our youth team before or is it not that same guy? i haven't really watched him of recent so i can't say if he's that "good" on the ball and faster.

Remember African football is way different from European football, if and when he wears the GWG shirt, he might come out different from how you see him at his club.

our current players (some) perform well in their various clubs but struggle while in the GWG while vice versa is to some.
tbaba1234:


He can replace Balogun or Ekong if needed.

Eye for a pass, confident, good on his feet and fast. Better on the ball than Ekong, faster than Balogun.

Balogun needs to start playing regularly to be in good shape.

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 5:50pm On Feb 02, 2018
somehow:
yea we know Balogun is currently not fit.
I have watched this GUY play against our youth team before or is it not that same guy? i haven't really watched him of recent so i can't say if he's that "good" on the ball and faster.

Remember African football is way different from European football, if and when he wears the GWG shirt, he might come out different from how you see him at his club.

our current players (some) perform well in their various clubs but struggle while in the GWG while vice versa is to some.

We are not playing African teams in the WC.

The only reason, i will maintain the Ekong-Balogun partnership is because they have built it for a while... Otherwise, on sheer ability alone, he can easily fit in.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 5:51pm On Feb 02, 2018
somehow:
I am trying to find those comments that stated this though.

You mention a player's name a day people remind you he is not World Class and at best average, what do you think they are implying?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 6:10pm On Feb 02, 2018
SerVik:

I didn't join the argument in support or otherwise of the invitation of udokhai, I only reacted to a statement you made and seeing that we had treated that issue at a point, when Mujtahida and joebie schooled us, I decided to chip in.

See, as a player, these guys make decisions for career advancement. In deciding which country to play for, it is easy for these guys to choose the glamorous European teams. I said we should clean our house and you misconstrued it.

We can clean our house by eliminating corruption in our teams. Tell me our team isn't more attractive with Rohr? This is a man that would make calls to clubsides to find out why his players are not playing, a coach that looks for club for his players, th at is career advancement, every player would want that kind of coach.

My qualm with your patriotism argument is that you are pinning the patriot tag on people that had it easy, they never had to make the hard choice.
You speak about Ebuehi, I admire the young man but if we're being honest, at this point the super Eagles is more attractive than the Dutch national team. Fact. And he never even got the invite.

Can I add to what you say, professionalism, clear cut due process, proactive quality management and organisation.

I have probably spoken to every British born ex Nigerian international at one time or another.

The NFF Management and organisation was in times past chaotic and haphazard there have been improvements but there is a lot more to be done.

Unfortunately, our predominant preferred style of management is charismatic led not policy and process. This creates a number of problems including player recruitment and selection amongst so many issues. I will not open the can of worms in a public forum with regards to financial impropriety.

If these issues are solved, then getting players to select Nigeria will be a first preference among many players of Nigerian origin.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 6:12pm On Feb 02, 2018
junnyjake:


My point was simple.

- We don't have a team filled with World Class players.

- These foreign born(s) are not World Class either.

- These guys are Nigerians like those that were born at home, then why set the bar higher when considering them? That's unfair to me.

- In summary, our players are average just like the FBs are, no much difference.

¡Es sencillamente simple!

Simple truth simply said.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 6:12pm On Feb 02, 2018
AIG07:
On Ighalo, here is my PERSONAL view with some stat.

ODION IGHALO is not yet a Sure Starter in the GWG. Dude gets lot of competitions.

The notion that he is the First Choice Striker is pure Fallacy.

Under Rohr, Ighalo only made the bench ONCE in Rohr's first 5-6 games. Kelechi and Ideye(he led once alongside KI against Zamb) were the ones leading Eagles attack. Kelechi went on to score in 4 of those matches.

Odion was recalled after the defeat to SA to re-inforce the attack and he scored against Cameroon in the 4-0 win going on to feature in two more games ending with the 1-0 win against Zambia in Uyo without scoring.

*3matches 1goal*

He started those games because of Kelechi's loss in form.

The truth of the matter is that Dude will have to FIGHT to get back to the starting 11 and If KI hits and continues in his top form. I see the fight becoming fiercer.

Note: Don't forget Nacho brings another skill set into the team-HIS FREEKICKs and that will always be a plus for a team who lacks specialist in dead ball kicks and that alone can give him d edge over Odion.

I don't have anything against any player but the truth I must say. Though it might be too hard to swallow.

O PARI!

So 1 free kick has turn into free kicks?according to you nacho is now a free kick specialist? Your mind is already judging you who ask if you have anything against Odion ighalo? If he keeps on playing week in and out of the Chinese league sorry he will remain rohr first choice okay,you are not the coach to choose

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 6:17pm On Feb 02, 2018
So Shehu Abdullahi is now keeping Agu on the bench? Well that's bad.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 6:22pm On Feb 02, 2018
I think the person i quoted called the player above average and a world class prospect and i challenged that notion. Are you referring to that comment?
junnyjake:


You mention a player's name a day people remind you he is not World Class and at best average, what do you think they are implying?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 6:23pm On Feb 02, 2018
Meaning the guy is needed in the GWG only for the WC?
tbaba1234:


We are not playing African teams in the WC.

The only reason, i will maintain the Ekong-Balogun partnership is because they have built it for a while... Otherwise, on sheer ability alone, he can easily fit in.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 6:24pm On Feb 02, 2018
andrew444:
CSKA MOSCOW is playing a friendly match right now and its still going on,the scores is 1-1 Ahmed Musa got the goal for CSKA MOSCOW

Musa the speedster is getting his mojo back! Heheheheehe... From Russia with Love.... grin

Musa is back! Russia 2018 we dey come....


Therefore......

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mazimee(m): 6:29pm On Feb 02, 2018
andrew444:
CSKA MOSCOW is playing a friendly match right now and its still going on,the scores is 1-1 Ahmed Musa got the goal for CSKA MOSCOW


Now we all can agree that MUSA was made for CSKA MOSCOW and CSKA MOSCOW was made for MUSA. He shouldn't have moved. The Russia party just got merrier

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 6:35pm On Feb 02, 2018
mazimee:



Now we all can agree that MUSA was made for CSKA MOSCOW and CSKA MOSCOW was made for MUSA. He shouldn't have moved. The Russia party just got merrier

Lol,he was not made for cska moscow okay,things didnt work out doesnt mean he is made for the league
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 6:37pm On Feb 02, 2018
somehow:
Meaning the guy is needed in the GWG only for the WC?

He will have time to adapt to the African game. Right now, the WC is the priority.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mazimee(m): 6:40pm On Feb 02, 2018
andrew444:


Lol,he was not made for cska moscow okay,things didnt work out doesnt mean he is made for the league

That's the point, reason it couldn't work out . Not every player succeed in EPL even after a wonderful season in other leagues

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 6:50pm On Feb 02, 2018
I dont get the talk of some folks here....

I have unequivocally stated before that we don't have a world class team and we only have two world class players in Mikel Obi and Victor Moses.
The rest are not world class. Some of them can be so within a few more years or even one or two may join that club within a year more.

Having said this, I disagree that the team is filled with below average players. We have a mix of quality above average players, young players with top quality and world class potentials and then a couple of "little above average" players and two world class performers (Mikel and VicMo).


We are where we are today and we ARE NOT WORLD CLASS. But the team is young and daring. Give them time. The young super talented ones like Iwobi, Iheanacho, Ndidi, Ebuehi, Aina, Onyekuru, Awaziem, etc are still growing and evolving.

This team beat World class Argentina complete with the exception of Messi and Romero. They also beat a Cameroun who conquered the rest of Africa beating Senegal, Ghana and Egypt along the way!!! Come on! Please give them time.

We are not world class but we certainly aren't filled with below average players. I mean this is the truth



Now, because we know we are not world class just yet, we must keep looking to improve our team and Felix Uduokhai is just one of the couple of FB talents who can add real quality to our team in our quest to reach levels near world class even before hitting the world class mark itself.


Please, when a FB name is dropped and mentioned, do well to not use the silly "let him break into his foreign country's national team first before we consider him" mentality. IT IS REALLY A POOR WAY TO APPROACH THE DISCUSSION. FOCUS ON THE TALENT. FOCUS ON WHETHER THERE IS QUALITY IN THAT FB PLAYER. THAT SHOULD BE OUR FOCUS.


Look, we need reinforcements in the Super Eagles. We need to explore all of our quality options be it foreign born or not.... We are still building a team and we all want a team that can be world class. So biko let us have that in mind when FB player discussions are brought up.

We all want a team filled with Awesomeness from all sides.... You think I was kidding when I mentioned Team Awesome when Ajiboye was producing fine magic against Sudan. Look. This is what we want... "An awesome team"... And if Uduokhai and his likes willtake us to such level then why not consider them in our discussions?

Look, I know we have a world cup which is months away and don't have much time for bringing in all known quality FBs. But for the long term future, we must have them in mind and also for this World cup, we surely can spare a position for one or two if they are clearly better than the ones there right now and can add real quality to the team and to her team work ethics.

Look, this is all for the Evolution of our team into a World class force which is a goal we are still pursuing.

So I say once again... Welcome to Team Awesome.... We shall get there and we must.


Thank you. smiley

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 6:52pm On Feb 02, 2018
mazimee:


That's the point, reason it couldn't work out . Not every player succeed in EPL even after a wonderful season in other leagues

No b lie

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by SerVik(m): 6:58pm On Feb 02, 2018
somehow:
How does "corruption" in our team address the point of using Nigeria as Plan B? not like we don't have tens of players wishing to play for us. playing for us has nothing to do with "corruption sir"

A corruption free and transparent organization is always more attractive, at least to honest people.

I gave an example with Rohr. Rohr has been transparent thus far, diligently going about his duties, even farther than his job description.

Tell me which system you'd prefer. One with proper organization, where everything is done according to the book or one with underhandedness and corruption with chaotic organization? Say you are a foreign born and you are required to choose, which would it be?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 7:01pm On Feb 02, 2018
TheSuperNerd:
I dont get the talk of some folks here....

I have unequivocally stated before that we don't have a world class team and we only have two world class players in Mikel Obi and Victor Moses.
The rest are not world class. Some of them can be so within a few more years or even one or two may join that club within a year more.

Having said this, I disagree that the team is filled with below average players. We have a mix of quality above average players, young players with top quality and world class potentials and then a couple of "little above average" players and two world class performers (Mikel and VicMo).


We are where we are today and we ARE NOT WORLD CLASS. But the team is young and daring. Give them time. The young super talented ones like Iwobi, Iheanacho, Ndidi, Ebuehi, Aina, Onyekuru, Awaziem, etc are still growing and evolving.

This team beat World class Argentina complete with the exception of Messi and Romero. They also beat a Cameroun who conquered the rest of Africa beating Senegal, Ghana and Egypt along the way!!! Come on! Please give them time.

We are not world class but we certainly aren't filled with below average players. I mean this is the truth



Now, because we know we are not world class just yet, we must keep looking to improve our team and Felix Uduokhai is just one of the couple of FB talents who can add real quality to our team in our quest to reach levels near world class even before hitting the world class mark itself.


Please, when a FB name is dropped and mentioned, do well to not use the silly "let him break into his foreign country's national team first before we consider him" mentality. IT IS REALLY A POOR WAY TO APPROACH THE DISCUSSION. FOCUS ON THE TALENT. FOCUS ON WHETHER THERE IS QUALITY IN THAT FB PLAYER. THAT SHOULD BE OUR FOCUS.


Look, we need reinforcements in the Super Eagles. We need to explore all of our quality options be it foreign born or not.... We are still building a team and we all want a team that can be world class. So biko let us have that in mind when FB player discussions are brought up.

We all want a team filled with Awesomeness from all sides.... You think I was kidding when I mentioned Team Awesome when Ajiboye was producing fine magic against Sudan. Look. This is what we want... "An awesome team"... And if Uduokhai and his likes willtake us to such level then why not consider them in our discussions?

Look, I know we have a world cup which is months away and don't have much time for bringing in all known quality FBs. But for the long term future, we must have them in mind and also for this World cup, we surely can spare a position for one or two if they are clearly better than the ones there right now and can add real quality to the team and to her team work ethics.

Look, this is all for the Evolution of our team into a World class force which is a goal we are still pursuing.

So I say once again... Welcome to Team Awesome.... We shall get there and we must.


Thank you. smiley

Nice one only Mikel and moses are world class
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 7:01pm On Feb 02, 2018
andrew444:
CSKA MOSCOW is playing a friendly match right now and its still going on,the scores is 1-1 Ahmed Musa got the goal for CSKA MOSCOW

MUSa is a MUScovite(meaning resident of Moscow. Just like Lagosian: resident of Lagos)

My faith in that guy got restored after that Argentina friendly.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 7:06pm On Feb 02, 2018
Icon4s:


MUSa is a MUScovite(meaning resident of Moscow. Just like Lagosian: resident of Lagos)

My faith in that guy got restored after that Argentina friendly.

Smiles funny you.....we can still count on him
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mank1234(m): 7:29pm On Feb 02, 2018
What do you guys mean by 'Nigeria is not world class team'? Is it until we win the world cup that we'll be world class? If a team that is amongst 32 nations gunning for world cup is not world class, what then is the team going to world cup to do.

Honestly, I don't know which team you guys support but my team, GWG the, Super Eagles is a world class team and is a major contender for the world cup. If Greece and Portugal could conquer Europe, then Nigeria can conquer the world.

Don't dampened these players morale by your posting. Support NFF, support GWG, support our team.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 7:36pm On Feb 02, 2018
So people are actually turning up their noses at Uduokhai?? Lmaoooo I guess we have peak Nesta and Cannavaro playing for us with Puyol on the bench.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 7:52pm On Feb 02, 2018
mank1234:
What do you guys mean by 'Nigeria is not world class team'? Is it until we win the world cup that we'll be world class? If a team that is amongst 32 nations gunning for world cup is not world class, what then is the team going to world cup to do.

Honestly, I don't know which team you guys support but my team, GWG the, Super Eagles is a world class team and is a major contender for the world cup. If Greece and Portugal could conquer Europe, then Nigeria can conquer the world.

Don't dampened these players morale by your posting. Support NFF, support GWG, support our team.


Looolll... So that means Saudi Arabia, Egypt, and even Japan are all world class teams right? wink Come on... cheesy


But, I truly appreciate your optimism Sir Mank. smiley

But read between the lines again in my post and you will see that it is not out to dampen but rather to uplift and fan the fires of "I can do" and "Dare" in the heart of the players and team.

It is well Sir Mank....


You are welcome....

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