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Democrats Defeat Pro-life Senate Bill Banning Late Term Abortions After 20 Weeks by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:25pm On Feb 01, 2018
Democrats Defeat Pro-Life Senate Bill Banning Late-Term Abortions After 20 Weeks
NATIONAL STEVEN ERTELT JAN 29, 2018 | 7:18PM WASHINGTON, DC

Senate Democrats today blocked a vote on a pro-life Senate bill to ban late-term abortions — a bill that would save as many as 18,000 unborn babies from abortions each and every year.

The Senate voted today on whether to stop the Democrats' filibuster of the Pain-Capable Unborn Child Protection Act, legislation that would ban abortions after 20 weeks — as neither Congress nor state legislatures can vote to ban all abortions under Roe v. Wade. The bill highlights how unborn babies feel intense pain when they are killed in abortions. Fifty-one senators (forty-eight Republicans and three Democrats) voted to take the bill up for debate, but 60 votes were required. (See vote tally at end of article).

Unfortunately, because Republicans don't have 60 votes in the chamber to overcome the filibuster, Democrats successfully stopped the bill. The vote came after the White House indicated President Donald Trump would sign the bill into law.

Leading pro-life advocates blasted Democrats for preventing passage of the late-term abortion ban.

"Americans should be outraged that pro-abortion Senate Democrats refuse to protect unborn babies who can feel pain. An overwhelming majority of Americans support this bill, including 56% of Democrats and 56% of those who identify as 'pro-choice'," said Carol Tobias, president of National Right to Life.

Tobias told LifeNews, "We applaud Senate Majority Leader McConnell and chief sponsor Sen. Lindsey Graham for their steadfast commitment to passing these protections for pain-capable unborn children. We will keep coming back to the Senate, again and again, until it passes this bill."

Jeanne Mancini, President of March for Life, said, "While we are grateful that this was brought to a vote, it is disappointing that the U.S. Senate could not pass the Pain-Capable Unborn Child Protection Act today, a bill that President Donald Trump specifically called upon Congress to bring to his desk at the 45th annual March for Life.

"This bill would have limited most late-term abortions to protect approximately 12,000 unborn children every year. For over a decade, polling has shown that the large majority of Americans – including those who identify as pro-choice – would limit abortion to, at most, the first three months of pregnancy. It is a disgrace that our Senate has once again failed to pass a bill that reflects the hearts and minds of the national pro-life consensus," she added.

Kristan Hawkins, President, Students for Life of America, called for a change to the filibuster rules.

"Pro-life Americans would finally have a groundbreaking victory for life in the U.S. Senate if the vote passed with majority rules as it should. It's time for a rule change. Instead, extremists in the Senate can block the desires of more than three out of four Americans who support real limits on the deadly abortion procedure," she told LifeNews.

She said, "For those Senators who voted against the bill, Millennials will be asking how they can embrace such an inhumane procedure for infants who soon can survive outside the womb, and the Pro-life generation will hold them accountable."

President Trump condemned late-term abortions and supported the bill during his March for Life address.

Noting the 45th anniversary of Roe v. Wade, Trump lamented that the United States is one of only seven countries in the world that allows elective abortions after 20 weeks.

"As you all know, Roe vs. Wade has resulted in some of the most permissive abortion laws anywhere in the world," Trump told the crowd.

"For example, in the United States, it's one of only seven countries to allow elective late-term abortions, along with China, North Korea, and others," the president said. "Right now in a number of states, the laws allow a baby to be born from his or her mother's womb in the ninth month. It is wrong. It has to change."

"I strongly supported the House of Representatives Pain-Capable bill, which would end painful, late-term abortions nationwide," Trump said. "I call upon the Senate to pass this important law and send it to my desk for signing."

The House has already approved the legislation but Democrats are using a filibuster of the bill in the Senate, requiring it to get 60 votes to move forward, to stop the bill. In the House, the vote for the Pain-Capable Unborn Child Protection Act broke down on mostly partisan lines with Republicans supporting the ban on late-term abortions and Democrats opposing it. The House approved the bill on a 237-189 vote.

"Overwhelming majorities of Americans—some 60-64% according to pollsters—support legal protection for pain-capable unborn children," said pro-life Congressman Chris Smith. "Today we know that unborn babies not only die but suffer excruciating pain during dismemberment abortion—a cruelty that rips arms and legs off a helpless child."

During the House debate, Smith talked about the gruesome nature of late-term abortions.

A former abortionist, Dr. Anthony Levatino, testified before Congress that he had performed 1,200 abortions—over 100 late-term abortions up to 24 weeks.

Dr. Levatino described what the abortionist actually does to the helpless child. "Imagine if you can that you are a pro-choice obstetrician/gynecologist like I was." Using a Sopher 13" clamp with rows of ridges or teeth, "grasp anything you can" inside the womb. "Once you've grasped something inside, squeeze on the clamp to set the jaws and pull hard—really hard. You feel something let go and out pops a fully formed leg about six inches long. Reach in again and grasp anything you can…and out pops an arm." He noted that "a second trimester D&E abortion is a blind procedure." He said, "Reach in again and again with that clamp and tear out the spine, intestines, heart and lungs."

SIGN THE PETITION! Congress Must Ban Late-Term Abortions

Sixteen states have enacted similar laws that ban abortions after 20 weeks. These include Ohio, Texas, Nebraska, Idaho, Oklahoma, Alabama, Georgia, Louisiana, Arkansas, North Dakota, South Dakota, West Virginia, Wisconsin, South Carolina, Kentucky and Kansas.

The House passed the measure in 2015 as well and that marked the second time the House has voted for the legislation — having approved it in May 2013. The bill was then blocked by pro-abortion Democrats who controlled the U.S. Senate.

During the hearing on the last bill, former abortion practitioner Anthony Levatino told members of the committee the gruesome details of his former abortion practice and how he became pro-life following the tragic automobile accident of his child.

Another bombshell dropped during the hearing came from Dr. Maureen Condic, who is Associate Professor of Neurobiology and Adjunct Professor of Pediatrics at the University of Utah School of Medicine. She testified that the unborn child is capable of reacting to pain as early as 8-10 weeks. This is when most abortions in America take place.

Americans strongly support legislation that would ban late-term abortions and protect babies who are capable of feeling intense pain during an abortion.

Currently, 16 states have pain-capable unborn child protection laws in effect, Kentucky being the most recent. Other states are considering similar bills.

Together, these laws potentially are saving thousands of babies from painful, late-term abortions. There were at least 5,770 late-term abortions at or after 21 weeks of pregnancy in 2013 in the U.S., according to the Centers for Disease Control. Another approximate 8,150 abortions took place between 18 weeks and 20 weeks, the CDC reports.

Though abortion advocates deny the science of fetal pain at 20 weeks, researchers have fully established fetal pain at 20 weeks or earlier. Dr. Steven Zielinski, an internal medicine physician from Oregon, is one of the leading researchers into it. He first published reports in the 1980s to validate research showing evidence for unborn pain.

At 20 weeks, the unborn child has all the parts in place – the pain receptors, spinal cord, nerve tracts, and thalamus – needed for transmitting and feeling pain. The unborn child responds to touch as early as week 6; and by week 18, pain receptors have appeared throughout the child’s body.

Dr. Colleen A. Malloy, a professor of neonatology at Northwestern University's Feinberg School of Medicine, told a U.S. Senate committee last year that "anesthesiologists, and surgeons use pain medication” for unborn babies at the 20-week stage when performing surgery, "because it's supported by the literature completely."

"I could never imagine subjecting my tiny patients to a horrific procedure such as those that involve limb detachment or cardiac injection," Malloy added.

This bill is based on model legislation developed by National Right to Life in 2010 and is in effect in Alabama, Arkansas, Georgia, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Nebraska, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, South Carolina, South Dakota, Texas, West Virginia, and Wisconsin.

The Pain-Capable Unborn Child Protection Act is sponsored by Senator Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), along with 46 cosponsors, and has been one of the right-to-life movement's top legislative priorities. The operative language is identical to H.R. 36, approved by the House of Representatives on October 3, 2017. This legislation extends general protection to unborn children who are at least 20 weeks beyond fertilization (which is equivalent to 22 weeks of pregnancy—about the start of the sixth month).

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NAYs —46
Bennet (D-CO)
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Re: Democrats Defeat Pro-life Senate Bill Banning Late Term Abortions After 20 Weeks by mexxmoney: 4:00pm On Feb 01, 2018
The democrats in the US are very antichristian. It seems their only agenda is promoting all manner of abominations and fighting against God's dictates. That's why I will always support republicans against those children of the devil

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Re: Democrats Defeat Pro-life Senate Bill Banning Late Term Abortions After 20 Weeks by OLAADEGBU(m): 4:12pm On Feb 01, 2018
mexxmoney:


The democrats in the US are very antichristian. It seems their only agenda is promoting all manner of abominations and fighting against God's dictates. That's why I will always support republicans against those children of the devil

That is why I find it difficult to believe that a person can call themselves Christians and be a Democrat at the same time.

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Re: Democrats Defeat Pro-life Senate Bill Banning Late Term Abortions After 20 Weeks by LordReed(m): 11:10pm On Feb 02, 2018
OLAADEGBU:


That is why I find it difficult to believe that a person can call themselves Christians and be a Democrat at the same time.

Ahh yes that's why you love a thrice married serial cheat, support people who say they are pro-life in public and commit abortions in secret also preaching no gays yet are having homosexual relations with teenage boys. Oh how could I forget your teenager loving old men the same ones you condemn here in Nigeria you can't wait to lick their arses in the US. LoL!

The hypocrisy stinks...!

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Re: Democrats Defeat Pro-life Senate Bill Banning Late Term Abortions After 20 Weeks by OLAADEGBU(m): 2:39am On Feb 03, 2018
LordReed:


Ahh yes that's why you love a thrice married serial cheat, support people who say they are pro-life in public and commit abortions in secret also preaching no gays yet are having homosexual relations with teenage boys. Oh how could I forget your teenager loving old men the same ones you condemn here in Nigeria you can't wait to lick their arses in the US. LoL!

The hypocrisy stinks...!

It's not about individuals it's about the policies they stand for. cool

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Re: Democrats Defeat Pro-life Senate Bill Banning Late Term Abortions After 20 Weeks by LordReed(m): 2:52am On Feb 03, 2018
OLAADEGBU:


It's not about individuals it's about the policies they stand for. cool

Yeah that's what Jesus would say right? LoL

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Re: Democrats Defeat Pro-life Senate Bill Banning Late Term Abortions After 20 Weeks by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:11am On Feb 03, 2018
LordReed:


Yeah that's what Jesus would say right? LoL

"And Jesus said unto him, Forbid him not: for he that is not against us is for us" (Luke 9:50).

Who's policies are against what Jesus stood for? undecided

Re: Democrats Defeat Pro-life Senate Bill Banning Late Term Abortions After 20 Weeks by LordReed(m): 3:19am On Feb 03, 2018
OLAADEGBU:


"And Jesus said unto him, Forbid him not: for he that is not against us is for us" (Luke 9:50).

Who's policies are against what Jesus stood for? undecided

Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye? Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye. Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
Matthew 7:1‭-‬5‭, ‬15‭-‬20 KJVA
https://bible.com/bible/546/mat.7.1-20.KJVA
Re: Democrats Defeat Pro-life Senate Bill Banning Late Term Abortions After 20 Weeks by OLAADEGBU(m): 4:25am On Feb 03, 2018
LordReed:


Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye? Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye. Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
Matthew 7:1‭-‬5‭, ‬15‭-‬20 KJVA
https://bible.com/bible/546/mat.7.1-20.KJVA

"Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment" (John 7:24).

You err there, you neither know the scriptures nor the power of God. What Jesus was saying in the verses you quoted there was that we should not judge with arbitrary condemnation because only God can judge in that sense. However, we are expected to discern, evaluate teachings and practice and in this case policies which will enable us govern our own actions accordingly.

You had judged Trump arbitrary earlier and now you are quoting what will implicate you. Only Jesus Christ has not sinned, we have all sinned and if we repent of our sins and believe in Jesus Christ as our personal Lord and Saviour then we can begin to bear good fruit. If a man is of a good tree he will certainly produce good fruits. Obama's policies did not show good fruits and I have the right to make my decisions based on my discernment and judgment as to who is actually bearing good fruit or bad.

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Re: Democrats Defeat Pro-life Senate Bill Banning Late Term Abortions After 20 Weeks by LordReed(m): 4:37am On Feb 03, 2018
OLAADEGBU:


"Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment" (John 7:24).

You err there, you neither know the scriptures nor the power of God. What Jesus was saying in the verses you quoted there was that we should not judge with arbitrary condemnation because only God can judge in that sense. However, we are expected to discern, evaluate teachings and practice and in this case policies which will enable us govern our own actions accordingly.

You had judged Trump arbitrary earlier and now you are quoting what will implicate you. Only Jesus Christ has not sinned, we have all sinned and if we repent of our sins and believe in Jesus Christ as our personal Lord and Saviour then we can begin to bear good fruit. If a man is of a good tree he will certainly produce good fruits. Obama's policies did not show good fruits and I have the right to make my decisions based on my discernment and judgment as to who is actually bearing good fruit or bad.

Hahaha, once you people are on the ropes you pull out the forgiveness card, yet you call Obama a devil, where's your forgiveness for him hypocrite?!

EDIT: Do you even think before you post? You condemn me for judging Trump then in the same breath reserve the right to judge? I think this Trump worship is making your brain into mush.
Re: Democrats Defeat Pro-life Senate Bill Banning Late Term Abortions After 20 Weeks by OLAADEGBU(m): 5:22am On Feb 03, 2018
LordReed:


Hahaha, once you people are on the ropes you pull out the forgiveness card, yet you call Obama a devil, where's your forgiveness for him hypocrite?!

Both yourself and Obama needs to seek the forgiveness that has been purchased for you on the Cross at Calvary and it is only after this that you will be able to bear good fruit and be able to make good judgment (discernment) between what is good and bad.

LordReed:


EDIT: Do you even think before you post? You condemn me for judging Trump then in the same breath reserve the right to judge? I think this Trump worship is making your brain into mush.

As I said earlier, there are two different shades to judgment. Jugding according to appearance and righteous judgment. You need to accept Christ into your life before you will be able to make righteous judgment otherwise you will just be floating with the current.

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Re: Democrats Defeat Pro-life Senate Bill Banning Late Term Abortions After 20 Weeks by LordReed(m): 5:48am On Feb 03, 2018
OLAADEGBU:


Both yourself and Obama needs to seek the forgiveness that has been purchased for you on the Cross at Calvary and it is only after this that you will be able to bear good fruit and be able to make good judgment (discernment) between what is good and bad.

Tell that to the liar in chief in the White House because dear Donnie has said before that he doesn't need to ask God for forgiveness. After you accomplish that come back and ask me.



As I said earlier, there are two different shades to judgment. Jugding according to appearance and righteous judgment. You need to accept Christ into your life before you will be able to make righteous judgment otherwise you will just be floating with the current.

You are just a hypocrite, accept that and make your life less complicated.

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Re: Democrats Defeat Pro-life Senate Bill Banning Late Term Abortions After 20 Weeks by OLAADEGBU(m): 6:01am On Feb 03, 2018
LordReed:


Tell that to the liar in chief in the White House because dear Donnie has said before that he doesn't need to ask God for forgiveness. After you accomplish that come back and ask me.




You are just a hypocrite, accept that and make your life less complicated.

Are you pro-life or an abortionist? undecided
Re: Democrats Defeat Pro-life Senate Bill Banning Late Term Abortions After 20 Weeks by LordReed(m): 9:14am On Feb 03, 2018
OLAADEGBU:


Are you pro-life or an abortionist? undecided

LoL and you think this is a way to start a conversation? With your bias out like the sun? No thank you.

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Re: Democrats Defeat Pro-life Senate Bill Banning Late Term Abortions After 20 Weeks by OLAADEGBU(m): 5:18pm On Mar 12, 2018
LordReed:


LoL and you think this is a way to start a conversation? With your bias out like the sun? No thank you.

Is it not obvious which side of the tree you belong? undecided
Re: Democrats Defeat Pro-life Senate Bill Banning Late Term Abortions After 20 Weeks by LordReed(m): 6:00pm On Mar 12, 2018
OLAADEGBU:


Is it not obvious which side of the tree you belong? undecided

So why did you ask the question?
Re: Democrats Defeat Pro-life Senate Bill Banning Late Term Abortions After 20 Weeks by OLAADEGBU(m): 6:47pm On Mar 12, 2018
LordReed:


So why did you ask the question?

To see whether you would admit the truth for once, but you did not disappoint. cool

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Re: Democrats Defeat Pro-life Senate Bill Banning Late Term Abortions After 20 Weeks by LordReed(m): 3:20am On Mar 13, 2018
OLAADEGBU:


To see whether you would admit the truth for once, but you did not disappoint. cool

Stop deceiving yourself, you still are a hypocrite; attempting to deflect won't solve your problem.
Re: Democrats Defeat Pro-life Senate Bill Banning Late Term Abortions After 20 Weeks by wirinet(m): 8:46pm On Mar 13, 2018
Even though I am pro choice, I support the bill. I believe 20 weeks is enough time for a mother to decide whether she wants the baby or abort it.

A woman should never be forced to birth a baby she definitely does not want.

My problem with pro life people is that they seem more concerned and sympathetic to the unborn baby than the actual baby after it had been born. They do not care whatsoever for the unwanted baby after it is born but can spend time, energy and resources to make sure the baby is born.

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Re: Democrats Defeat Pro-life Senate Bill Banning Late Term Abortions After 20 Weeks by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:48pm On Mar 14, 2018
wirinet:


Even though I am pro choice, I support the bill. I believe 20 weeks is enough time for a mother to decide whether she wants the baby or abort it.

A woman should never be forced to birth a baby she definitely does not want.

My problem with pro life people is that they seem more concerned and sympathetic to the unborn baby than the actual baby after it had been born. They do not care whatsoever for the unwanted baby after it is born but can spend time, energy and resources to make sure the baby is born.

Do you also agree with partial birth abortion? undecided
Re: Democrats Defeat Pro-life Senate Bill Banning Late Term Abortions After 20 Weeks by wirinet(m): 8:24pm On Mar 14, 2018
OLAADEGBU:


Do you also agree with partial birth abortion? undecided
Never heard of partial birth abortion, can you explain what it means.
Re: Democrats Defeat Pro-life Senate Bill Banning Late Term Abortions After 20 Weeks by OLAADEGBU(m): 5:22pm On Mar 15, 2018
wirinet:


Never heard of partial birth abortion, can you explain what it means.

The fact that you've never heard of partial birth abortion shows that most Democrats are voting in ignorance and are kept in the dark regarding this dastard killing on babies on full-term pregnancies as long as part of their bodies remain in the body.

Re: Democrats Defeat Pro-life Senate Bill Banning Late Term Abortions After 20 Weeks by wirinet(m): 9:08pm On Mar 15, 2018
OLAADEGBU:


The fact that you've never heard of partial birth abortion shows that most Democrats are voting in ignorance and are kept in the dark regarding this dastard killing on babies on full-term pregnancies as long as part of their bodies remain in the body.
Which one is Democrat again? I, living in obodo nigeria, a democrat? Are you insinuating that only Democrats support abortion? There are pro choice supporters in all countries of the world. Are you saying that China that abortion is legal and sometimes state sponsored is Democrat?

You guys are just trying to use emotional and physiological blackmail to support your pro life beliefs. What is the aim of using graphic and appalling pictures of babies being murdered. We are discussing abortion especially early term abortion and you are showing a baby in a noose.

Maybe, I too should post pictures of unwanted babies dumbed in dustbins, gutters and even rivers to support my arguments.

As I have said, I think abortion should be restricted to the first trimester, that is enough time for a mother who definitely does not want a baby to decide to abort it. It is stupid and unreasonable (not to mention callous ) for a mother to go through the pain and stress of a 9 month's pregnancy and the decide to abort the baby just before birth or kill it immediately after birth.

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Re: Democrats Defeat Pro-life Senate Bill Banning Late Term Abortions After 20 Weeks by LordReed(m): 10:06pm On Mar 15, 2018
wirinet:


As I have said, I think abortion should be restricted to the first trimester, that is enough time for a mother who definitely does not want a baby to decide to abort it. It is stupid and unreasonable (not to mention callous ) for a mother to go through the pain and stress of a 9 month's pregnancy and the decide to abort the baby just before birth or kill it immediately after birth.

These are not always done because the mothers wants. Issues and complications may arise which could warrant such late stage termination. Such blanket bans simply do not take into cognisance that there might be legitimate reasons why a late stage termination might be necessary.
Re: Democrats Defeat Pro-life Senate Bill Banning Late Term Abortions After 20 Weeks by OLAADEGBU(m): 12:23pm On Mar 20, 2018
wirinet:


Which one is Democrat again? I, living in obodo nigeria, a democrat? Are you insinuating that only Democrats support abortion? There are pro choice supporters in all countries of the world. Are you saying that China that abortion is legal and sometimes state sponsored is Democrat?

You guys are just trying to use emotional and physiological blackmail to support your pro life beliefs. What is the aim of using graphic and appalling pictures of babies being murdered. We are discussing abortion especially early term abortion and you are showing a baby in a noose.

Maybe, I too should post pictures of unwanted babies dumbed in dustbins, gutters and even rivers to support my arguments.

As I have said, I think abortion should be restricted to the first trimester, that is enough time for a mother who definitely does not want a baby to decide to abort it. It is stupid and unreasonable (not to mention callous ) for a mother to go through the pain and stress of a 9 month's pregnancy and the decide to abort the baby just before birth or kill it immediately after birth.

Pro-choicers are becoming pro-life in droves after watching these videos:

https://www.lifesitenews.com/pulse/abortion-advocates-become-pro-life-after-watching-these-videos

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