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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:10pm On Feb 03, 2018
Icon4s:


Osimhen and the Nwakalis' cases are quite different. They are not currently in the team not because anyone is blocking them but simply because they are currently not up to the mark.

On Dele Ajiboye I saw from a previous post where you said he was ignored all these years. So we should have swept aside Enyeama, Ejide and Ayenugba? He was no where near these guys then.


Take a look at that list of great players you mentioned, how many were MVPs and Golden boot winners at U17? Most of them Stared at the U20.

At the U20 level players that will end up as world class would have already started showing the traits.
The U20 and U21 tournaments for European countries are more important but for us we underrate the U20 and that is why we have always failed at that age level.

If Osimhen had probably done what he did at U17 at the U20 oh then no doubt no one can dispute his stardom.

Even, Awoniyi, Iheanacho and Yahaya were dwarfed when they featured at the U20 compared to what they did at U17.


An U21 team will give these young players better opportunity to develop and get selected for the Main Super Eagles.


They must not make the final list but have the high quality training of the National team to help improve them.

Did you read this before making the following statement?

So we should have swept aside Enyeama, Ejide and Ayenugba? He was no where near these guys then.

Because you are totally off point. Hand hold and help grow especially the exceptional talents. The point is too simple. I am glad we have someone like Rohr who thinks differently from the regular way most of our past handlers think.

Finally, Osimhen did not have the chance to have a second shot in the U20. That does not mean he is not good or not quality. That Amunike's team was good and it is a clear case of us identifying Special talents and falling to hand hold them in one way or another.
That team played 35 games and only lost one. Unfortunately, that one cost them the qualifiers. Especially after how badly they were treated. From little reward for their success in Chile, lack of support during preparation, owed bonuses from the U17 to the U20 camping.

Haba, have conscience.

Rohr, Baba Tuale.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 8:11pm On Feb 03, 2018
CaptainStephen:
I hope I am safe oh
Officer you are very safe,oga icon4s thought TheSuperNerd and co would turn the thread up and down today cos of Iheanacho,so I told him not to worry that i have officer in the house to instil discipline.

How work today,pls don't tell me you are in sambisa forest.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 8:12pm On Feb 03, 2018
somehow:
Sentiments? sorry read again, nothing like sentiment in what i have said so far, i asked for those who have performed well, then asked if it was possible some of these "outstanding" ones from the lot get invited to the upcoming friendlies. so where is the "sentiment" here?
on what performance...will they sneak into the super eagles?

so far...none of them besides the goal keepers will easily get a look in....

you don't go on trying to carve a reason for the inclusion of Chan players in the world cup party...simply because you're an npfl fan...

the national team job are for competent legs...and not the case where sentiment thrives...

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:18pm On Feb 03, 2018
Our players are under rated. They are better than we think. This also goes to the League of extraordinary hitmen fans. We have something Special in our hands.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by hoodedjaystrim(m): 8:23pm On Feb 03, 2018
Seems Iwobi Has Collected Invisible Red Card
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 8:24pm On Feb 03, 2018
somehow:
Funny enough, we have always had players directly from the Local league play for the NT even when the league was worse off than what we presently have and some of them actually did well.

I bet its because we now have access to options outside the league, hence the reason we think all at home are totally bad.

Stephen Odey that just moved last year might end up in the NT within 2 years (just for changing location), might not have been different from the Odey but let me stop here for now. after the world cup, i will bring up this issue again.
better....after the world.cup bring up the issue.....
from what I have watched so far...besides the goal keepers...none is capable of laying hold to a starting shirt in the SE first 11....

where we have the league....ndidi rose all the way from an academy in Lagos to Europe and today no npfl player can match his abilities...same wit nancho and others...
just few years they have spent in European football colleges they've improved so much....
let alone the likes of Moses, iwobi etc who all their lives..right from tender age..undergo grooming in this football academics...none of our Chan players can play better than iwobi even though they may be older in age...
but the young lad have been groomed, tutored and harnessed to bring out his best...

same process should our Chan players go through...the npfl coaches have really done nothinh to groom this guys..
let them get good clubs in Europe that will school and polish them to suit the need of the round leather game....before we talk of them making the 23 man party to Russia...


you tell me the inclusion of the Chan players in the world cup party for Qatar 2022 I will understand...not Russia 2018.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 8:25pm On Feb 03, 2018
Iwobi was great today. He's slowly getting back to top form.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 8:30pm On Feb 03, 2018
CaptainStephen:
I hope I am safe oh

Ahhhhh.... Uhmmmm... **omo the major don show oooo**

Elder Kog45 needs you upstairs... He called for you...

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:34pm On Feb 03, 2018
Icon4s:

At the U20 level players that will end up as world class would have already started showing the traits. .

So you mean De Gea, Neymar, Casillas, Iniesta, Xavi, Ronaldinho, Marcelo and others who were picked for their U17 National sides were not showing traits? Bia, At fifteen, I was already singing to people Neymar would be huge.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 8:36pm On Feb 03, 2018
AIG07:
Can somebody explain why Joel Obi keeps getting injured?

I can't remember the last time dude played 10 straight games without been injured.

#So painful.

I do not think it is serious.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 8:37pm On Feb 03, 2018
Really good games from Iheanacho and Iwobi today...

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 8:37pm On Feb 03, 2018
AIG07:
Can somebody explain why Joel Obi keeps getting injured?

I can't remember the last time dude played 10 straight games without been injured.

#So painful.

So painful that guy would still be at inter Milan now or a more bigger team if not for injuries
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by nelszx: 8:39pm On Feb 03, 2018
My brother na them Nigerian refs dey draw inspiration from cheesy grin

somehow:
Iwobi fits perfectly well in this formation.

Meaning he can be used even with Mithy on the field of play.

Wenger knows what he's getting from the lad.

4:0 (HT)

Last goal was a clear offside though, a FIFA referee acting as an assistant missed that clear offside? grin grin grin grin English FIFA ref grin

The one in the middle missed 2 clear fouls against Mithy and the Arsenal's French defender.

We have them good and bad everywhere grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 8:42pm On Feb 03, 2018
Lookman Ademola just scored a solo brilliant goal on his debut today for Liepzig.

NFF should approach this lad.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 8:46pm On Feb 03, 2018
forgiveness:
Lookman Ademola just scored a solo brilliant goal on his debut today for Liepzig.

NFF should approach this lad.

Good move to Germany.. I hope he can blossom.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 8:46pm On Feb 03, 2018
forgiveness:
Lookman Ademola just scored a solo brilliant goal on his debut today for Liepzig.

NFF should approach this lad.

What??!!! shocked

Yara Yara!!!! Head to Germany immediately!!!!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 8:52pm On Feb 03, 2018
Ademola Lookman came on in the 78th min and got the winner for RB Leipzig in the German Bundesliga in the 89th min against A very good Borussia Mochengladbach side with Ginter and Vestergaard at the back!!!!.. shocked Chaaiiiii.... Good one man... And his goal is reported to have been assisted by Naby Keita.


We must secure him for the Eagles. Hope he is willing when we approach him. Keep shining Lookman... He seems to have a knack for scoring debut goals... He did same at Everton wink

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AIG07: 8:55pm On Feb 03, 2018
tbaba1234:


I do not think it is serious.
hope so.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kingphilip(m): 8:56pm On Feb 03, 2018
Ex-opponent watch:


Sudan winning 1:0 at half time

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AIG07: 8:58pm On Feb 03, 2018
andrew444:


So painful that guy would still be at inter Milan now or a more bigger team if not for injuries
Exactly, no doubt about it. Dude has the quality but his recurring injuries has been his bane.

He promised so much.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 8:59pm On Feb 03, 2018
so iwobi lasted 90 mins today grin
the haters can go fvck themselves cheesy

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 8:59pm On Feb 03, 2018
so iwobi lasted 90 mins today grin
the haters can go fvck themselves cheesy

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AIG07: 9:02pm On Feb 03, 2018
forgiveness:
Lookman Ademola just scored a solo brilliant goal on his debut today for Liepzig.

NFF should approach this lad.
If my memory serves me right, I think he has been approached by our FA. The ball is in his court. We await his response.

My advise is that he should keep on working hard. His work isn't going unnoticed.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 9:04pm On Feb 03, 2018
Honestly, the most impressive Nigerian player for me this season is Ndidi. He has really improved his game.

Though I didn't see the first half today but from what I saw in the second half today, it is very clear Iheanacho enjoys playing from the deep. He doesn't like being isolated upfront.

In the match he scored two goals, there was something he did that really confirmed his confidence has been restored. It was the ball he tapped up before smatching a shot that was goal bound but blocked. This was from the highlight though.

That was captivating to say the truth. shocked

Now, this is what I am talking about. You must play well before going to Russia and now that he is playing well. EOD.

I really thank Rohr for declaring he would only take players playing regularly for their clubs to Russia. Hehehehe,!

That statement gave many players hope to fight for shirt.
And that is the reason Success, Ujah, Ideye, Etebor and Musa fast fast go look for club. grin

Now, this is interesting. grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 9:06pm On Feb 03, 2018
TheSuperNerd:


What??!!! shocked

Yara Yara!!!! Head to Germany immediately!!!!

Hahahahahah! Match wey don finish tey tey. grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AIG07: 9:08pm On Feb 03, 2018
krattoss:
so iwobi lasted 90 mins today grin

the haters can go fvck themselves cheesy
Iwobi's haters? I haven't come across one yet. I mean on this thread. Guys are only trying to be realistic and not hating.

On the other hand I have never seen a coach who so much believes, depends and trust young players like Wenger. That man is a COACH and not just a manager.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 9:09pm On Feb 03, 2018
TheGoodJoe:


cc: Icon4s

You can see another case of the National team playing a part in the rise of a special talent?

Firstly, take it from me that in terms of talent, Iwobi and Osimhen are not on the same level.

Secondly, England was also pushing for the young man. So Nigeria needed to do the needful.

Thirdly, though Iwobi had not played any senior game for Arsenal( he did that same month he played for Nigeria) but he featured prominently in Arsenal's preseason tour and his performance was enough to attract the attention of the national team handlers.

Fourthly, Iwobi's kind of ability could not be ignored for the position we desired of him. We were in need of a potential replacement for Mikel and Iwobi was beginning to show traits of an Heir apparent.

Fifthly, the only time Osimhen did anything exceptional was at the U17 in 2015. As a senior player for Wolfsburg he has not done anything that has set him apart from other young strikers.

If you are looking for young players to "hold hands", you should also consider likes of Kingsley Michael, Taiwo Awoniyi, Cyriel Dessers among others . Osimhen is yet to break out of the park IMHO.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 9:09pm On Feb 03, 2018
forgiveness:


Honestly, the most impressive Nigerian player for me this season is Ndidi. He has really improved his game.

Though I didn't see the first half today but from what I saw in the second half today, it is very clear Iheanacho enjoys playing from the deep. He doesn't like being isolated upfront.

In the match he scored two goals, there was something he did that really confirmed his confidence has been restored. It was the ball he tapped up before smatching a shot that was goal bound but blocked.

That was captivating to say the truth.

Now, this what I am talking about. You must play well before going to Russia and now that he is playing well. EOD.

I really thank Rohr for declaring he would only take players playing regularly for their club to Russia. Hehehehe,!

That statement gave my players hope to fight for shirt.
And that is the reason Success, Ujah, Ideye, Etebor and Musa fast fast go look for club. grin

Now, this is interesting. grin
I tell you bro...very interesting...unlike before when they can easily make man to man settlement in kind...

they know.....that the surest way to make the list for the world cup party is to earn it...

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 9:10pm On Feb 03, 2018
forgiveness:


Hahahahahah! Match wey don finish tey tey. grin
a good outing for Nigeria @ the forthcoming world cup...may make some of them change their mind about playin for Nigeria.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 9:14pm On Feb 03, 2018
TheGoodJoe:


So you mean De Gea, Neymar, Casillas, Iniesta, Xavi, Ronaldinho, Marcelo and others who were picked for their U17 National sides were not showing traits? Bia, At fifteen, I was already singing to people Neymar would be huge.

Which of them won MVP and or highest goal scorer? And where are the players that won the MVP and highest goal scorers when these guys played U17?

Ajiboye won golden glove ahead of De Gea. Where ate the two today?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:15pm On Feb 03, 2018
Icon4s:


Firstly, take it from me that in terms of talent, Iwobi and Osimhen are not on the same level.

Secondly, England was also pushing for the young man. So Nigeria needed to do the needful.

Thirdly, though Iwobi had not played any senior game for Arsenal( he did that same month he played for Nigeria) but he featured prominently in Arsenal's preseason tour and his performance was enough to attract the attention of the national team handlers.

Fourthly, Iwobi's kind of ability could not be ignored for the position we desired of him. We were in need of a potential replacement for Mikel and Iwobi was beginning to show traits of an Heir apparent.

Fifthly, the only time Osimhen did anything exceptional was at the U17 in 2015. As a senior player for Wolfsburg he has not done anything that has set him apart from other young strikers.

If you are looking for young players to "hold hands", you should also consider likes of Kingsley Michael, Taiwo Awoniyi, Cyriel Dessers among others . Osimhen is yet to break out of the park IMHO.

Iwobi and Osimhen play totally different positions, so, we can not start comparing them. Their styles are totally different.

Secondly, you are missing the point of the debate. The point is we should hand hold more. An example was Rohr hand holding Awaziem, Osimhen. I gave an example. I wonder how you have turned that to we should hand hold Awoniyi. Funny.

Are you Rohr to understand what he has seen in Osimhen that sparked his interest? How are you sure Dessers or Awoniyi have what he is looking for.

Iwobi did not fit into your experience, do well in club for some time criteria.

Finito.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 9:17pm On Feb 03, 2018
tbaba1234:


Good move to Germany.. I hope he can blossom.

Hopefully, he does. I am watching..

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