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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 4:21pm On Feb 05, 2018 |
stinkmeaner:There are very few coaches that won't do well with Xavi Iniesta Messi |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by phaamsaam: 4:30pm On Feb 05, 2018 |
eph12: I read some comments and keep laughing, ancelotti couldn't even steady the ship at bayern, since pep did the easy job by doing the treble Bundesliga, remember before then it wasn't smooth sailing for bayern with klopp dortmund, the beauty about pep time at bayern was record number of game won, record time the league was over etc, same thing he is currently doing in the epl, the hate on pep can continue, he isn't a stranger to antagonists of his ideas, since epl fan boys were so over confident he would flop in the epl and run back to Spain, let them continue to eat their humble hating pie... I get satisfaction from comments portraying such hate n trolls |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by phaamsaam: 4:37pm On Feb 05, 2018 |
raumdeuter:Dude free these pained guys, fans who wanted pep over Mou all the time, and just vexed he chose their little neighbors over them... Mou who went as far as poking his finger into a rival manager eyes, same Mou after collecting 4 was telling conte to tone down his celebration, same Mou would walk back into the dressing room even before injury time when his side has a 3+ goal lead over an opposing team |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Eruditor: 4:37pm On Feb 05, 2018 |
closerange: And your United fans accuse us of lies and half-truths? Bayern have 2 UCLs in 41 years. But anyone who did not win 1 for them failed. Bayern under him (final season) were regarded as the best team to never have won the UCL. But he dropped their stock in Europe. Simeone played RM, Barca etc and said Pep's Bayern was the toughest game of his life. But again, he dropped Bayerns stock. Enrique won 7 trophies in 3 years. Pep won 13. But Enrique equalled his achievements. He never lost to Bayern. Lost ONCE (at Nou Camp) to Mou (2-1: late CR7 goal) never lost at Santiago in the league. Has beat Mou the most times of any manager alive or dead (RIP Tito). Yet he was getting sodomized. "Left Bayern when he could not do more for them" (but Bayern begged him to stay). Winning the EPL will probably be his biggest achievement in the England and you know this how? Was this not supposed to be Mou's second season of always winning the league? Was the EPL not the league that no one ever won by Feb even Arsenal's unbeaten team? When Conte won the league last season did anyone call them one of the best ever teams they had ever seen? 3 Likes |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 4:38pm On Feb 05, 2018 |
phaamsaam:Why do u guys always think everyone with a different opinion or view hates Pep? |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 4:47pm On Feb 05, 2018 |
eph12: Bayern made 3 consecutive CL semi finals under him. Thats better than you club has done since 2011 How did Mourinho send him packing. While Mourinho was in SPain Guardiola won the CL, won the League won the CCWC, won the super cup Thats almost the best period of Guardiolas career 1 Like |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 4:50pm On Feb 05, 2018 |
closerange: Ferguson won a treble in 1999, he never won another treble till he retired, Can we say all the seasons after 1999, Ferguson was failing? Actually your facts are wrong, pep wasn' the coach of Barcelona that Bayern beat, when pep was coach of Barcelona they beat Bayern 5-1 aggregate in the CL quarter finals and won a sextuple Man Utd won a CL trophy several league and a treble. So if Mourinho doesnt win more than a treble he has failed at Man utd. Is that correct? 2 Likes |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 4:51pm On Feb 05, 2018 |
closerange: Pep was not the coach of Barcelona when Bayern beat them. You should learn to get your facts straight 1 Like |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 4:51pm On Feb 05, 2018 |
eph12: Rijkaard had Xabi Messi and Iniesta he went 2 seasons trophiless 2 Likes |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 4:55pm On Feb 05, 2018 |
eph12: Because all they stick to are watery stuffs like he used 6 subs, He spent money, he praised Redmond, he called a team Harry Kanes team While you see the same people supporting a coach who called a press conference to insult another coach, Called one specialist in failure, poked one in the eye, told another coach to tone down celebration, told the other team not to celebrate in the dressing room If you are actively defending someone who has stage 4 cancer but lambasting one person who has acne then that can only be beef and hatred 2 Likes |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 4:57pm On Feb 05, 2018 |
Eruditor: Does it matter whether they have only won a champions league trophy in 100 years? The point is that the coach before Pep did it and Pep was unable to do it... Its as simple as ABC... Even in business, we expect a new manager to at least equal the heights of the previous one, anything short of that is failure.... If you don't understand this simple principle, my brother, hope no dey be that. The fact remain that they were the best team in the world before his arrival and were not, during his tenure and when he departed... You need to check ur stats sir, the season Pep left Barcelona, they played Real Madrid like 4 times and lost 3x, they lost in the Spanish super cup, lost in the league and lost twice in copa del rey.... It counts for a little more than Rat shit if simeone said Bayern were his toughest opponent, the bottom line is that he kicked their butt, they were even tougher than the Madrid team that won him. No? I can assure you, na for premier league, Guordiola swag finish, when he wins the champions league with Man shitty, quote me... |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Eruditor: 5:02pm On Feb 05, 2018 |
closerange: You asked me to check my facts and went on to tell more lies. If Pep lost 3 times to RM under Mou how come in their whole career Mou has beat Pep only 4 times which includes (3-1 at Inter, 1-0 at United (Carling Cup) the 2-1(At Nou Camp I spoke of) and 1-0 at Copa Del Rey final when Pep won 5 trophies that season (he would have done another sextuple ). Same season he beat Mou 5-0 Nou Camp, 2-0 at Santiago UCL semis. You talk about the coach before Pep and I laugh. When Pep was announced as the next coach Bayern had won nothing. Jupp had gone trophiless the season before. Please tell another lie. 2 Likes |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by phaamsaam: 5:08pm On Feb 05, 2018 |
eph12:I can twist this to say, why do you guys think everyone thinks because of this different opinion you have for pep resorts to hate... Truth is we all have divergent views, you looking at the head of the coin, another would give you reasons to look at the tail/base of the same coin |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 5:09pm On Feb 05, 2018 |
Eruditor: You are a bloody liar, jupp heynkes, won the treble and was replaced by Guordiola the very next season... That team has not been the same since then, they had to bring back Heynkes to fix the mess.... |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by phaamsaam: 5:10pm On Feb 05, 2018 |
Eruditor:Just forget these dudes with Lai Mohammed kinda lies 1 Like |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by phaamsaam: 5:12pm On Feb 05, 2018 |
closerange:Lools, mess caused by Ancelotti right?, let's see how heynkes clean up the supposedly caused mess since you wanna row pep into it in the ucl |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Eruditor: 5:17pm On Feb 05, 2018 |
closerange: LOL. 2011/12 Jupp's 2nd season in Bayern (he came in between the previous one and finished 3rd thus rescuing their poor season under LVG); He lost the League to Klopp's Dortmund. He lost 5-2 to same Klopp's Dortmund in the DFB-Pokal Lost on Penalties to RDMs CFC. TROPHYLESS. 2012/13 season, it is announced that he will retire end of that season and Pep will replace him. Bayern then go on to win a treble. While you are busy talking foolishly, also take note that Ancelotti had coached Bayern for 1.5 seasons before Jupp was brought back. Do you know Bayern informed Pep of their decision to bring Jupp back and he consented to it? LOL. D-umb scummie. 1 Like |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by phaamsaam: 5:19pm On Feb 05, 2018 |
Pep Guardiola leaves Bayern Munich as the best manager in Bundesliga history foxsports May 7, 2016 at 11:31a ET Was Pep Guardiola’s time at Bayern Munich a success? Seeing as he failed to win the UEFA Champions League, or even make it to a final, some have argued no. That’s an extraordinarily high bar to set, maybe even an unfairly high bar, but that comes with being Pep Guardiola, managing at Bayern Munich and taking over a team that had just won the treble. But one thing is pretty clear: Guardiola is the best manager in the history of the Bundesliga. Nobody in Germany has been able to touch Bayern Munich in Guardiola’s three years at the Allianz Arena. He has three league titles to his name, making him perfect in the Bundesliga, but Guardiola’s dominance cannot be summed up by simply counting trophies. Bayern did so much more than simply finish in first place since the Spaniard took over. Bayern Munich absolutely throttled the rest of the Bundesliga. Just look back to Guardiola’s first season at the club. Bayern went undefeated in their first 28 matches under Guardiola and even won 19 straight at one point. Only once did they concede more than one goal in that span and they had a goal difference of 66. By the time they finally lost, on April 5, they had already clinched the league, having become the first team in history to win the Bundesliga in March. The Bundesliga had never seen a team as dominant as Bayern Munich in 2013/14. And they were nearly as good in Guardiola’s second campaign. Bayern didn’t make it to April undefeated that season. Instead, the Bavarians only managed to go undefeated in their first 17 matches. And Guardiola’s men didn’t win the league in March, instead waiting until April, but still clinching with four matches to play. Even this season, Guardiola’s third at Bayern, there was never really a title race. Bayern Munich won their first 10 matches of the season and, with one match to play, have only lost twice. They’ve been an absolute machine and while it took until May to win the league this time around, the Bundesliga was all but wrapped up on March 5, when they drew at Borussia Dortmund to kill any chance their yellow-clad rivals had of catching incomprable Bayern. It’s been a magnificent run for the Bavarians. It’s been one the Bundesliga has never seen before. Whether it’s the trophies, the goals, the defense or the complete destruction of any other German club’s belief that they might have a chance of winning the league, Guardiola’s Bayern have been so far beyond any other Bundesliga club in history. Bayern have been so good that the team’s regression over the last three years, going from the best the Bundesliga has ever seen to one that is simply one of the best the Bundesliga has ever seen, is used as a knock on Guardiola. "The team isn’t making progress," some observers say. And maybe not, at least when it comes to results, but they’re still miles ahead of their competition. And it would be unwise to simply look at results, anyway. Part of what Guardiola was charged with doing was to instill a real style and sustainable foundation at the club. It’s impossible to argue he hasn’t, with the possesion-based attack, constant movement, versatile and ever-evolving system that defies formation or even conventional soccer sense now the norm at the Allianz Arena. It’s not as if Bayern were a long-standing unstoppable force when Guardiola took over, either. Yes, they had just won the treble, but Borussia Dortmund had won the Bundesliga in the two years prior. There was, supposedly, a real rivalry and competition at the top of the Bundesliga. At least that was the case when Guardiola first took the reins at Bayern Munich. We know that’s not the case now. Maybe Guardiola isn’t an outright success at Bayern Munich. But you have to look to Europe to make that case. Because in Germany, Guardiola has no equal. Count the trophies. Add up the goals. Look at the way they play. Even look at the rest of the league, defeated from Day 1. Guardiola is the best the Bundesliga has ever seen. MORE FROM FOX SOCCER Everyone agrees you need many elements to work in your favour to win the ucl, the league really defines how consistently good a team is 3 Likes |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 5:22pm On Feb 05, 2018 |
raumdeuter: Dude, is the point deliberately flying over your head? I was comparing the achievement of a succeeding coach to the previous.. Mourinho replaced Van gaal and is currently doing better than him... If mourinho was Ferguson's immediate replacement, then I'd be asking for his head.... Your Guordiola took over from a Treble winning side and reduced them to semifinalists, they had been to two finals before he arrived and won the trophy once.. He basically didn't do anything new for them... My verdict remains the same for his stint at City, until UE wins the champions league... |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 5:22pm On Feb 05, 2018 |
raumdeuter:Was that what Pep was brought in to do? Make 3 consecutive semis? Finals that they were going to like someone going to bed, is what Pep reduced to semis and you want us to see it as improvement? Tufiakwa What has my club got to do with anything? Is United now the yardstick? |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 5:24pm On Feb 05, 2018 |
phaamsaam:In English please |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 5:24pm On Feb 05, 2018 |
raumdeuter:Like I said, very few |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by MoR2(m): 5:26pm On Feb 05, 2018 |
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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 5:29pm On Feb 05, 2018 |
raumdeuter:I'm not your guy |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 5:29pm On Feb 05, 2018 |
Eruditor: You are still not making any sense.... Was Guordiola the coach that gave them the treble?? No... Did they win the treble before his arrival? Yes Did he win the Treble? NO Did he win the champions league trophy? No Did he even get to the final? No... Verdict: Guordiola was a downgrage on Heynkes.... |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Eruditor: 5:29pm On Feb 05, 2018 |
closerange: LVG finished 4th his first season. Mou 6th. LVG finished 5th his next season, Mou replaced him and finished 6th. LVG won the FA Cup, Mou won carling cup. Mou owes that community shield to LVG. Without LVG, United don't get to play Leicester. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Eruditor: 5:34pm On Feb 05, 2018 |
closerange: You're making irresponsibly daft statements. When he was ANNOUNCED they had won nothing. How was he to know they would go on to win a treble that year? If getting to UCL final is definition of success then Mou failed at Chelsea. How can you be a downgrade on someone and yet win the league faster than anyone ever did? How can you be a downgrade and your previous employers seek your opinion till date? |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by MoR2(m): 5:37pm On Feb 05, 2018 |
Eruditor:they will keep accusing you of half truths when you say something like 2 CL titles in 41years and don't mention that they went to 3finals in 4 years before pep. Bros a recent history over ancient history. they will keep accusing you of half truths when you Enrique won 7 trophies in 3years and pep won 13 and not include the years! why, you want to play smart with peoples head abi. Simeone was been professional just as pep spoke well of napoli, but it's also a big shame that the best Bayern couldn't beat ATM. you know pep knocked out ONLY ONE TOP CL TEAM in his 3 years in Bayern. so we should take off our trousers and pay respect to him abi.. all is well. pep has never had the odds against him but has failed when the odds were in his favor. except he wins the champions league this season with this man city he never start. you think psg's aim to just to win ligue 1. 1 Like |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 5:39pm On Feb 05, 2018 |
Eruditor: Seriously? You do know that Vangaal sent us to the Europa league abi, which mourinho won? You do know that van gaal was sacked because he couldn't qualify for the champions league You do know that the entire point of finishing in the top 4, is to play in the champions league and mourinho simply chose the more convenient way of doing it? You know nothing, Eruditor... |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Eruditor: 5:44pm On Feb 05, 2018 |
MoR2: If getting to the UCL final is success why are they not consulting LVG that got to the final? Pep won 14 trophies in his 4 years in Barca. 13 in 3 years. Stop trying to out-stupidd the other poster. Pep should have made Bayern convert all their chances including penalty miss to beat ATM? Pep has never had odds against him. Like selling Ronaldinho and taking over Barca senior team with only Barca B experience? 5 Likes |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by MoR2(m): 5:45pm On Feb 05, 2018 |
Eruditor:you will SHOW US PROOF TODAY TODAY where Bayern asked pep, "please o tell us should will use jupp as interim manager or not, oga pep tell us o" which kind hypo be that wan. jupp didn't have half the quality of players pep had and including the fact Bayern where in a poor shape when he got in compared to the state he left it in for pep. please show us where Bayern consulted pep for jupp o, show us please |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 5:46pm On Feb 05, 2018 |
Eruditor: Seriously, you are beginning to piss me off with your incredible stoopidity... Is the issue about when he was announced or when he started coaching them? Did his announcement, coach the players, did his announcement help them with the treble, just what role did his announcement play in making them win the Treble that season? Are you really stoopid or acting it?? Who cares about how fast he won the league, did he receive an extra trophy for that?? WO, no vex me oh... |
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