greiboy:
This is absolutely wrong


First of all, Feminism is just an advocacy for equal rights between the sexes.


> Feminism did/can not insist or suggest when a lady should settle down. There is nothing in the movement to suggest this, This is only the only misconceptions going around on social media platforms in Nigeria. There are lot of feminists who are happily married


>Feminism don't dictate the type of food a woman should eat. it is not advocacy for the nutritional value of women. Therefore, it has very little to nothing to do with the second point you raised

> Feminism has nothing with finding a life partner. The fact that women earned more than they use to do in yesteryears doesn't mean they should not find love

NB; I am not a feminist but a firm believer in the idea of a fairer world, whether we practice equality or equity

greiboy:
This is absolutely wrong


First of all, Feminism is just an advocacy for equal rights between the sexes.


> Feminism did/can not insist or suggest when a lady should settle down. There is nothing in the movement to suggest this, This is only the only misconceptions going around on social media platforms in Nigeria. There are lot of feminists who are happily married


>Feminism don't dictate the type of food a woman should eat. it is not advocacy for the nutritional value of women. Therefore, it has very little to nothing to do with the second point you raised

> Feminism has nothing with finding a life partner. The fact that women earned more than they use to do in yesteryears doesn't mean they should not find love

NB; I am not a feminist but a firm believer in the idea of a fairer world, whether we practice equality or equity

TheMenCode:


Feminism is NOT about equality! It's about FREEDOM to cuckoldry for the woman.
http://www.themencode.com.ng/2017/10/18/bitter-truth-feminism/

greiboy:
This is absolutely wrong


First of all, Feminism is just an advocacy for equal rights between the sexes.

> Feminism did/can not insist or suggest when a lady should settle down. There is nothing in the movement to suggest this, This is only only a misconception going around on social media platforms in Nigeria. There are lot of feminists who are happily married

>Feminism don't dictate the type of food a woman should eat. it is not advocacy for the nutritional value of women. Therefore, it has very little or nothing to do with the second point you raised

> Feminism has nothing do with finding a life partner. The fact that women now earn more than they use to do in yesteryears doesn't mean they should not find love.

NB; I am not a feminist but a firm believer in the idea of a fairer world, whether we practice equality or equity

greiboy:
This is absolutely wrong


First of all, Feminism is just an advocacy for equal rights between the sexes.


> Feminism did/can not insist or suggest when a lady should settle down. There is nothing in the movement to suggest this, This is only only a misconception going around on social media platforms in Nigeria. There are lot of feminists who are happily married


>Feminism don't dictate the type of food a woman should eat. it is not advocacy for the nutritional value of women. Therefore, it has very little or nothing to do with the second point you raised

> Feminism has nothing do with finding a life partner. The fact that women now earn more than they use to do in yesteryears doesn't mean they should not find love.

NB; I am not a feminist but a firm believer in the idea of a fairer world, whether we practice equality or equity

greiboy:
bro that is your own definition

greiboy:
bro that is your own definition

MIKOLOWISKA:

Feminism was
The reality is what is happening
Wetin concine me
I no Kuma get bio clock

Yes it does
It shames women into late marriage and plenty debauchery

Yes it does
Men eat junk till they marry
Cos there is no time
If the woman works like a man she will eat junk like the man and feed her children same

If you earn more you will find it difficult to get husband
Better stop deceiving yourself
we were not born equal
We will never be equal
Feminists don't want equality or equity
They want dominance

donstan18:

General definition , not personal

greiboy:
First of all, I am guy not a lady

Secondly, every of your counter statement is based on your own perceptions, not actual facts

Those who initially push for feminism or women's liberation were after right to vote, right to get equal pay check as their male counterparts, right to education for the girl child, adequate legal protection for women in abusive relationship all other issues around social justice, which any rational person should support.

I understand that some modern day feminists have also added issues around female sexuality to feminism I.e. they believe women should also demand to have sexual satisfaction like their male counterparts, which might support promiscuous behavior to some extent

Nonetheless, there is nothing in feminism that support your assertions, which are

> women should not marry when they like

> women should not eat good food or cook for their husbands, that is if the lady is a better cook and have the time, otherwise it will be unreasonable to ask a very busy woman to cook all the time. it is not about feminism, it is just common sense

If you don't want a woman that is too busy, you can always marry a house wife

> if a woman earns more, she will be independent and attractive to decent men as long as she is not to proud or egoistic about it, mind you some broke ladies who can barely afford their own undies can just be as proud. Pride has nothing to do with women financial status or feminism.


Now, equality which feminism is fighting for is quite different from equity which most men prefer

Equality is fairness regardless of the situation

Equity is fairness in all situation

I have added a diagram for better explanation

greiboy:
First of all, I am guy not a lady

Secondly, every of your counter statement is based on your own perceptions, not actual facts

Those who initially push for feminism or women's liberation were after right to vote, right to get equal pay check as their male counterparts, right to education for the girl child, adequate legal protection for women in abusive relationship all other issues around social justice, which any rational person should support.

I understand that some modern day feminists have also added issues around female sexuality to feminism I.e. they believe women should also demand to have sexual satisfaction like their male counterparts, which might support promiscuous behavior to some extent

Nonetheless, there is nothing in feminism that support your assertions, which are

> women should not marry when they like

> women should not eat good food or cook for their husbands, that is if the lady is a better cook and have the time, otherwise it will be unreasonable to ask a very busy woman to cook all the time. it is not about feminism, it is just common sense

If you don't want a woman that is too busy, you can always marry a house wife

> if a woman earns more, she will be independent and attractive to decent men as long as she is not to proud or egoistic about it, mind you some broke ladies who can barely afford their own undies can just be as proud. Pride has nothing to do with women financial status or feminism.

Now, equality which feminism is fighting for is quite different from equity which most men prefer

Equality is fairness regardless of the situation

Equity is fairness in all situation

I have added a diagram for better explanation

Dimples129:


Ask him if these apply to male feminists?

He will say they're gay

Ignorance is a disease

You sir are the cure

Thank you

TheMenCode:


Male feminist are women ALLY.

http://www.themencode.com.ng/2018/01/12/6-things-nice-guy-attract-girl-every-real-man-must-never/

Homo or Hetero is no more an issue than the frame ( http://www.themencode.com.ng/2017/10/08/the-frame/ ) and sexual conditioning of the man (http://www.themencode.com.ng/2017/12/08/unplugged-inter-sexual-conditioning/

Bitter Truth about feminism no one talks about.

http://www.themencode.com.ng/2017/10/18/bitter-truth-feminism/

greiboy:
This is absolutely wrong


First of all, Feminism is just an advocacy for equal rights between the sexes.


> Feminism did/can not insist or suggest when a lady should settle down. There is nothing in the movement to suggest this, This is merely a misconception going around on social media platforms in Nigeria. There are lot of feminists who are happily married


>Feminism don't dictate the type of food a woman should eat. it is not a advocacy for the nutritional value of women. Therefore, it has very little or nothing to do with the second point you raised

> Feminism has nothing do with finding a life partner. The fact that women now earn more than they use to do in yesteryears doesn't mean they should not find love.

NB; I am not a feminist but a firm believer in the idea of a fairer world, whether we practice equality or equity

Y0ruba:
Uncle Sagamite will single-handedly shut this thread down with just one post.

Sagamite:


As for how feminism is destroying women (I don't know about Nigeria, I only know about the UK and West), the primary destruction for them is that it has created a severe gender war. It has poisoned the relationships between the genders and continues to do so.

That is the number one destruction it is having as in that war, there will only be one loser at the end: Women.

Don’t start a fight you can’t win and that would be detrimental to your interests.

Men are now refusing to really couple with them and marry them. Something fundamental to women's happiness on the long run. The movement is setting them up for a miserable future.

No sane man wants to marry a selfish and/or aggressive woman. Feminism is decreasing the already low long-term attractiveness of being with a woman in the West.

Feminism is also reducing the will of men even starting the process of courtship with women because it is creating an environment where the woman can choose to arbitrarily label any approach as "sexual harassment".

Worse still is that about half of marriages occur from relationships started at the work place. Now with feminist labelling these as potential sexual harassment that has significant risks for men's careers (and finances), there will be far less of these and you will see more women struggling to find a partner before they hit the wall as majority are obviously not interested in making the first move as they cannot deal with rejection.

Feminism would affect the careers of women. I really don't see how men who are currently in power would continue hiring women for non-essential job roles considering the risk of one "taking offence" at everything or even tarnishing their image with "sexual harassment claims". Watch how Hollywood men would avoid hiring women in background roles. They would continue hiring them for frontline acting roles as it would be essential for the script. but for background roles, why take the risk of anyone bitter making a potentially false claim and keep their anonymity? Risks that would hit your pocket or may even end your career.

Feminism is increasingly taking away the choices of women as well. We are seeing these lunatics that call themselves feminist now making companies stop hiring models like on F1 grids hence stopping actually beautiful women that choose to make their money this way lose out on work. I have even seen many insult women who decide they prefer to be a housewife because they think every woman should compete with men.

Feminism has exposed women's hypocrisy and double standards, showing they are mostly an unfair bunch who can't be trusted with power. The movement has exposed that even a large majority of the brightest women don't understand and are not willing to practice equality. To them, equality is when they have an advantage.

Gerrard59:

That is what the third and fourth (especially) wave feminist movement have done. You forgot to add the Professional Darts' Corporation decision which came before F1. And yes, it is very bad to shame women who desire to be housewife (thought it was all about equality of choice?). However, what I support is the fight against rape. Unfortunately, that has been abused recently. Thereby reducing the veracity of actual victims' claims. Some feminists criticised the #Metoo campaign as being too extreme, and they were abused and insulted by fellow feminists

Gerrard59:

Another lie by the feminist movement was that of Sir Tim Hunt - 2001 Nobel Prize winner in Medicine and Physiology. They did not even allow the man to have his case heard, and forced to resign. Upon research, it was discovered that the lady at the storm - Connie St Louis - lied by omitting certain parts of his speech. Intriguingly, Tim was forced to resign, and the lady kept her job. Talk about double standards!

Gerrard59:

Abeg, a new name should be coined for equal rights for humans.

Sagamite:


Men are now refusing to really couple with them and marry them. Something fundamental to women's happiness on the long run. The movement is setting them up for a miserable future.

No sane man wants to marry a selfish and/or aggressive woman. Feminism is decreasing the already low long-term attractiveness of being with a woman in the West.

Sagamite:



Feminism would affect the careers of women. I really don't see how men who are currently in power would continue hiring women for non-essential job roles considering the risk of one "taking offence" at everything or even tarnishing their image with "sexual harassment claims". Watch how Hollywood men would avoid hiring women in background roles. They would continue hiring them for frontline acting roles as it would be essential for the script. but for background roles, why take the risk of anyone bitter making a potentially false claim and keep their anonymity? Risks that would hit your pocket or may even end your career.
have an advantage.

GiantParrot:
This is so well said. Actions have consequences, whether intended or unintended. It's very easy to ignore the unintended consequences when the course of action is being conceived. That doesn't prevent those unintended consequences from manifesting in due time. In any case, here's something feminists can take to the bank: sensible, high achieving men will almost always act rationally to minimize their risks. Permit ne to add a few links to support your post.


https://www.lifesitenews.com/mobile/news/young-men-giving-up-on-marriage-women-arent-women-anymore

https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/3467778

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-4994118/amp/Women-destroying-marriage.html


In addition, business leaders, who are mostly male, are becoming increasingly wary of mentoring women.
www.yahoo.com/amphtml/finance/news/since-metoo-number-men-uncomfortable-201248681.html

Sagamite:


Yep!

I can see the obvious and I am blunt with it.

I am the opposite of most women. They love being lied to as long as what is being said is to their favour. That is the way they are even in relationships.

And most like to do what they want but think the negative consequences should not affect them because they should not be responsible and accountable for their own actions.

Dreamers!

Why the fck would anyone with a brain (and successful men are usually smart) take on such a huge altruistic risk with limited-to-no upside for themselves at all but the downside is catastrophic?

It is not rocket science to deduce these outcomes.

Just one unverified and unverifiable accusation can cause so much damage and even public vitriol, why would you take such a risk if you can avoid it?

People would be discussing on TV with an obvious assumption that you are guilty (called the perpetrator) before even any evidence is provided by your accuser (clearly called the "victim" without any evidence).

Mentee at work? Fcking avoid females simple. Not worth it for you.

One touch of the shoulder can be said to be "sexual harassment".

Casual opening of door for her can be said to be a sign of your "casual and passive sexism".

In most cases, you can't avoid the gender of your mentee because it is a normally a random allocation by HR once you volunteer to be a mentor.

If you are allocated a female, engage in it at a complete distance and strictly professionally. Don't let your guard down once. Treat it like diplomacy session with North Korean negotiators in Pyongyang. I don't want to know about your fcking problems at home, with boyfriend, what you did for the weekend, nor do I want to have the chat over lunch or a coffee blah blah blah.

Preferably majority of the 'menting' is done via email and every of the few direct interaction is in a office meeting room with see-through glass.

I am an advocate of managing the risk strictly to your own advantage and benefits.

And as for marrying one? That relates to one of the questions I have repeatedly asked the marriage advocates for a number of years now.

"Why the fck would you elect and want to spend the rest of your life with someone who only cares about herself and focuses on only her interests"?

The sex is not worth it and you can get that in abundance if you are single.

Neither do I need anyone's company. Worse still, if the company is not enjoyable.