hopefulLandlord:

yes? there's neutrality, isn't it?

good, you answer the question. a neutral fellow will either be here nor there. is that possible?

winner01:
So what happens when atheists win arguments?

Okay what evidence are you looking for, make I provide am

I can catch small fun here today

Read through the thread......and leave me out of this abeg. I don't care if God exist or not. Honestly I don't.

Seun:

I don’t believe Indian gods are real, haven’t joined any cult, and I dont believe Satan exists just as I don’t believe God exists. All liars shall go to hell bro.

His post violates rule no 8. Don't post false information on Nairaland

YOu no go ban am?

vaxx:
good, you answer the question. a neutral fellow will either be here nor there. is that possible?

depends on what kind of belief is being proposed to the person, I'd say its possible

MrBottle:
Read through the thread......and leave me out of this abeg. I don't care if God exist or not. Honestly I don't.

OK sir .
I also don't care about BBNaija or who wins it, Honestly I don't spend my time watching it either .

hahn:


His post violates rule no 8. Don't post false information on Nairaland

YOu no go ban am?

Hahn , all these years you and Seun still dey terrorize people

Ronpet777:

OK, I get u then. Until now, d Atheism idea has never been clear to me. But maybe I am seeing it from a new pair of spectacles. It still puzzles me how one will not believe in any God. D issue I hv with d idea is that by leaving ur mind blank, u expose it to so much mysteries. D Western world r suffering from this as their freedom from religion is pushing them to perversion. Debasing things like homosexualism, nudity and more hv crept in on them.

First, ones mind is not blank just because one stops believing in gods.

Second, those western world have actually decided that it does not matter if they wash their hands or observe the Sabbath or wear a hijab or not. What's more important is to love ones neighbour whether they are jews, muslims, pagans, atheists, or homosexuals. You would really have to work hard to starve on the streets of London, and no hospital will ask how much you got before they treat your illness. The schools are great too and there is always electric and water. And they donate more to charity and countries in need than Nigeria does!

The law still throws your ass in jail for theft and paedophilia!

MrBottle:
Op, for your sake and the sake of your beliefs leave atheists alone. Their logic and intellectual acumen and ability to argue brilliantly will make you question your belief in God.

Those atheist use jujuwords. Very powerful indeed.

hopefulLandlord:

depends on what kind of belief is being proposed to the person, I'd say its possible

it is not gonna be impossible, take for example. your palm, it has back and front. can you separate the two? or take for example the idea of a mountain? can you separate the valley and the mountain?


check budaatum reply with ronpet

winner01:
Which of the hells do you believe?

I don’t believe in hell either. I certainly don’t believe that eternal torment is the appropriate punishment for any finite crime, unlike the author of Revelation who thinks every person who has ever told a lie deserves to be burned alive for ever and ever and ever. Billions of billions of billions of years times infinity. That’s not right.

winner01:
OK sir .
I also don't care about BBNaija or who wins it, Honestly I don't spend my time watching it either .

May I ask what in the world you arc talking about? How is this related to the object of discourse?
You see what I am talking about....just do not get me involve. Thanks

vaxx:
where on earth, will he get the stats? How many people are willing to identity themselves as an atheist. And I do not think postmortem can also indicate atheism as the cause of the death. The only evidence the dude can use is the list of prominent people that are actually atheist(well known)and this llist is available online.

If he can't provide stats why make the statement in the first place? Surely the statement must be based on some sort of evidence!

Provide evidence or don't lie!

Seun:


I don’t believe in hell either. I certainly don’t believe that eternal torment is the appropriate punishment for any lie, unlike the author of Revelation.

hopefullanlord, what will the opposite of this called . blank or neutral?

budaatum:

Those atheist use jujuwords. Very powerful indeed.

more like mesmerising words.

Well actually I seriously don't adopt any of the church doctrines and all, I barely go to church though am morally conscious, friends call me pagan and stuffs, is there a difference between an atheist and a pagan I really wanna know because both don't believe if there's a God, I question that belief too buh I don't know what to identify with

Seun:


I don’t believe in hell either. I certainly don’t believe that eternal torment is the appropriate punishment for any lie, unlike the author of Revelation.

Seun:


I don’t believe in hell either. I certainly don’t believe that eternal torment is the appropriate punishment for any lie, unlike the author of Revelation.

Oh okay. How do you threathen someone with something you don't believe in
What's your take on freedom, dont you think that as humans, we can do better than taking freedom from groups of persons who broke laws that were created by other men. Its like ending the one life they have, don't you think we can do better?

budaatum:

Those atheist use jujuwords. Very powerful indeed.

I can confirm this to be true cuz I use juju words given to me by the God of atheism which I sacrifice babies to under instructions from our high priest Richard Dawkins. I venerate Saint Christopher Hitchens also and worship Sam Harris (my house is filled with his posters)

budaatum:

If he can't provide stats why make the statement in the first place? Surely the statement must be based on some sort of evidence!

Provide evidence or don't lie!

no one is lying , i have provided more than five links to support it.

MrBottle:
May I ask what in the world you arc talking about? How is this related to the object of discourse?
You see what I am talking about....just do not get me involve. Thanks

lol. Okay

vaxx:
it is not gonna be impossible, take for example. your palm, it has back and front. can you separate the two? or take for example the idea of a mountain? can you separate the valley and the mountain?


check budaatum reply with ronpet

what are you getting at with your analogy?

vaxx:
i am not changing the topic bro. i am only letting you know that both wiki and conservapedia are both subjected to the same standard of citations. yes it is not reliable just like wikipedia.

Not true vaxx. Conservapedia is not subject to stringent peer review and only allow edits that fit in with their fundamental biblical view. Wikipedia requires citations from credible sources and it is peer reviewed. The peers and citation on Conservapedia suck.

tillaman:
Well actually I seriously don't adopt any of the church doctrines and all, I barely go to church though am morally conscious, friends call me pagan and stuffs, is there a difference between an atheist and a pagan I really wanna know because both don't believe if there's a God, I question that belief too buh I don't know what to identify with

pagan is different from atheist . pagan is a coined name given to dose who do not subscribe to abrahimic god idea. i am one. it actually mean illiterate or uncivilized. for example, the traditionalist are pagan to the Christian.

Butterfllylion:


Vaxx go through this


https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5a2a902ee4b022ec613b812b/amp

That's an article by a very vocal atheist.

And this


https://amp.reddit.com/r/atheism/comments/2iq290/without_god_i_feel_suicide_makes_logical_sense/

Check the comments from atheists there.

First article says believers bully atheist and push them to suicide!

Interestingly enough, one of those reasons is religious believers themselves. We live in a world dominated by people who often fervently believe ancient superstitions and who many times demonize, harass, ostracize, and disown those who lack belief in those ancient superstitions. Atheists on the receiving end of this treatment are understandably stressed and isolated. They often experience anxiety and depression as a result.


And the top comment from the second expresses my sentiments:

Dudesan • Oct 8, 2014, 7:34 PM
I don't understand that line of reasoning. I like being alive.

budaatum:

Not true vaxx. Conservapedia is not subject to stringent peer review and only allow edits that fit in with their fundamental biblical view. Wikipedia requires citations from credible sources and it is peer reviewed. The peers and citation on Conservapedia suck.

i have given argument while wikipedia and conservapedia are the same. you can read my post again? i cannot recycle the argument. better still confirm for yourself..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_is_not_a_reliable_source

hope you are aware one of the co owner of Wikipedia is an atheist? ..

hopefulLandlord:


what are you getting at with your analogy?

am telling you that the law of nature run in opposite. you can not be neutral

MrBottle:
Read through the thread......and leave me out of this abeg. I don't care if God exist or not. Honestly I don't.

I kind o like you!

vaxx:
am telling you that the law of nature run in opposite. you can not be neutral

"I don't believe your claim" and "Prove it!" are as neutral as it can be. Mine has always been from null hypothesis rather than making competing one(s)

vaxx:
i have given argument while wikipedia and conservapedia are the same. you can read my post again? i cannot recycle the argument. better still confirm for yourself..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_is_not_a_reliable_source

hope you are aware one of the co owner of Wikipedia is an atheist? ..

No, didn't know one of the owners of wiki was an atheist.

The standard here is objectivity. Cons lacks objectivity. Just read the wiki section on Christianity, to see what I mean by objectivity. Though wiki might be owned by an atheist, he does not get to use wiki to shove his atheism down ones throat. Can't say the same about the section on Christianity on cons, and their section on atheism is pure Christian fundamentalist propaganda.

But, as you have and I have not resolved our issues with subjectivity and objectivity, I doubt you'd agree.

budaatum:

I kind o like you!

hopefulLandlord:


"I don't believe your claim" and "Prove it!" are as neutral as it can be. Mine has always been from null hypothesis rather than making competing one(s)

which of my claim have you believe before? am sure none. so this one too is not a big deal. at least somebody has learn.

budaatum:

No, didn't know one of the owners of wiki was an atheist.

The standard here is objectivity. Cons lacks objectivity. Just read the wiki section on Christianity, to see what I mean by objectivity. Though wiki might be owned by an atheist, he does not get to use wiki to shove his atheism down ones throat. Can't say the same about the section on Christianity on cons, and their section on atheism is pure Christian fundamentalist propaganda.

But, as you have and I have not resolved our issues with subjectivity and objectivity, I doubt you'd agree.

i have given evidence on this issue here, you can take time and read my comment. both of them follow the same standard of citations. so a clever person like you should visit the citation this websites cited to verify their claim instead of relying on them.

when it comes to bias, wikipedia is not exempted, yes one of the co owner is an atheist.