hopefulLandlord:


You agree that both you, Shekau and Vaxx are worshipping the same God?

hopefulLandlord:


You agree that both you, Shekau and Vaxx are worshipping the same God?

vaxx:
from your writting, you ask the most sensible question anyone has ever ask me on this section. yes my believe with the Christians are different but we met at one point. the '' GOD IDEA''. i do not attack atheist ideology but just curious about the rationality in their idea. we all have freedom of worship and thought. if you do follow me, you will realized i do not like debate but rather discuss nor do i favor one particular religion above others. i am on this forum to actually get myself engage and feel at home. am not in the same continent with you.

honestly i found atheist interesting, particularly when it comes to asking question? most of the question are actually impressive and brain tasking. through them i solidify my faith by answering those question. in fact Muslim too are also wonderful people when it comes to questioning. it just that am not allow to comment on their section. in short my purpose on this section is to broaden my knowledge.

Your view on the fundamentalist christian are true, so true that i cannot deny. but my personal relationship with the liberal are very mutual. we even drink ,wine and debate together. go through my topic , i have written article to engage Christian,Muslim and atheist in general. i may post some of them to you. so i am not here to support A or B apart from those who share the same ideology with me.

my philosophy tell me all religion are true so long it promote peace and love.

Ronpet777:

Hahahahaha! Now Frank really wants to teach me how to be a Christian.
U talk like d devil, he is d accuser of brethren. He knws d Bible and quotes it, but unfortunately, he doesn't hv d spirit of God to discern it. D Bible is not a story book. Jesus never destroyed any shrine, he was tolerant until buying and selling was done in d house of God.
U hv no point, u knw absolutely nothing abt being a good Christian .1Cor 2:10 "But God hath revealed them unto us by his spirit: for the spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God. "
How can u claim u knw abt Christianity when u hv not d spirit? U r blind and cannot see beyond ur nose when it comes to deep things of God brother. Stick to ur limits.

frank317:


this not a response to my post... rather, it is an attack on my knowledge of Christianity. I have heard, now respond to my post... are u worshiping the same God that ask shekau to kill infidels and Christians?

Emmanystone:

What is the name of Shekau's God and what is the name of Vaxx's God? Let's start from there.

Ronpet777:


Oh Frank! How did u get here? That was a very shallow statement for someone who has done enough to make be bliv he has stuff. How on earth cud u say that? U sound like u r wooing him by condemning us. Isn't that a bit childish?
It seems to me all Christians around u are actually not Christians. We r pple who really mind our business. A good Christian is very accommodating and will not pry into other pple's mode of worship. Check d US and UK and see if u hv ever heard a Christian attacking an idol worshipper. We don't attack. We r very peaceful pple, like many other cultured religions are.

hopefulLandlord:


my question is rhetorical cuz I've seen you over the years argue that you and Shekau aren't serving the same god. I'm just checking if you're gonna be consistent or shift like a dry leaf on water

frank317:


Like i said, u are really no a christian. Who told u Christians mind their business? are u in Nigeria? every morning in Lagos bus, they are condemning and calling people to repentance, Morning call when we are sleeping telling us we will burn in hell,... pls let me not go there.

i want to ask u... so if u see a pagan would u preach for him to repent or would u encourage him to continue worshiping amadioha

Ronpet777:

Were u with Shekau when he told him to kill people?

Anybody can make anything up abt God.

Did u bother confirming from God if he told him?

How can u ask such a question?.

Haven't u seen pple who claim God told them to kill their parents? Any voice in some pple's head is God's.

We serve the same God with Muslims and pagans if u bother to knw. D difference here is that we see him in different light and approach him in completely different ways.

My father is Dad to some, boss to some, colleague to some, stranger to some and completely unknown to some.

Emmanystone:

Only the uncertain shake. I am as solid as the rock.

Upon this rock i shall built my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail over it. I'm standing on that Rock.

vaxx:
you this guy lol

Ronpet777:

If u have watched an interesting movie once, and u love it so much, u wud definitely invite a friend to view it also, sharing d good news of Christ is just a benevolent act and shld not come with threats of hell.

But like I said, different strokes for different folks.

We hv many Christian doctrines and denominations.

But I will go with d part that says 'Looking up to Jesus, d author and finisher of our faith'.

To ur question, I will share with him Wot I knw which is glad tidings and wud never compel him to drop his bliv just as he wudnt compel me. I hv pple like that as colleagues already and we relate perfectly.

frank317:
I think of i have ur time


no, just as i am not there when christians say God tell them all sort of things. if u readily doubt shakau, why are u surprised when we doubt the bible and pastors... where u there when the bible was written?


Good, now u sound like an atheist


no.. i dont believe God talks to anyone, but u do? can u help me ask? of did u ask God? what exactly did he tell u?


I asked becasue u said u are worshiping the same God with Shekau

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emmm... Abraham?


listen to urself, u serve the same God but see him in different light. its either neither of u is even seeing this God at all or he is actually different light. he can ask shakau to kill and ask u to love.


yet ur father is the father(creator) of all?

Ronpet777:

Hahahahahahahaha! I felt like rolling on d floor laffing after I read ur comment . Mhen, u guys I trained not to ever back down namata d points put forward to u. Well, since every comment leads to a new question from u, I will do well to rest my case for now. I hv answered u all one after d other but I see ur unbelief will never let u digest anything edible.
D father I mentioned there is an earthly father that is seen as different person to diff pple.
Even Muslims deny Shekau's claims but I bet u don't knw that. U r trained to just be negative and interrogative.
Good night Frank, let's hope I will hv ur strength tomorrow God willing.

hopefulLandlord:


Which makes me surprised you're supporting a Christian who's saying the exact opposite

Emmanystone:
What is the Cbristian saying?

hopefulLandlord:


He said you're serving the same God with Shekau

Ronpet777:

Were u with Shekau when he told him to kill people? Anybody can make anything up abt God. Did u bother confirming from God if he told him? How can u ask such a question?. Haven't u seen pple who claim God told them to kill their parents? Any voice in some pple's head is God's. We serve the same God with Muslims and pagans if u bother to knw. D difference here is that we see him in different light and approach him in completely different ways.
My father is Dad to some, boss to some, colleague to some, stranger to some and completely unknown to some.

obiZEAL:

You scored an own goal with this....

Ronpet777:

U don't just point a finger and disappear. Explain Wot u mean.

Ronpet777:

U don't just point a finger and disappear. Explain Wot u mean.

Ronpet777:
If Emmanuel disagrees with me He knws perfectly wot he is saying and he is wise. Y wud he agree he serves d same God with a man who claims his God told them to kill? But then, d problem is with d worshippers. Isaac and Ismael both came from Abraham and both serve d God of Abraham. D issue is that while Christians can hear from God through d Holy Spirit, the Muslims follow d dictates of Muhammed completely. He gives them instructions which he claims to hv heard from God, d same one Ismael served which is also our God. Many Christians won't agree that we serve d Same God because d instructions r completetly diff. Blame d channels not the source, but then ur purpose is to mock and all u will do is to pick Wot to criticize.
cc: obiZEAL, frank317,emmanystone

Emmanystone:

Sir, Muhammed was not the descendant of Ismael o. It's a claim to give Islam credibility. I took up the challenge to reseach on the geneology of Muhammed tracing it down to Ismael, it got lost along the way.

Listen sir. Muhammed made alot of bogus claims that if carefully perused, you'd know he lied.

Let me ask you. Do you believe that Abraham built the Kaaba?

Do you believe that Abraham was Muslim?

Do you believe that Ki g David, Solomon, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Jesus and all the Jews except Apostle Paul were Muslims?

Do you believe that it was Ismael God asked Abraham to sacrifice?

Do you believe that Jesus is not the Son of God, but just a slave of Allah?

Do you believe that Jesus didn't die, didn't resurrect?

If you believe one here, you must believe all.

Ronpet777:
If Emmanuel disagrees with me He knws perfectly wot he is saying and he is wise. Y wud he agree he serves d same God with a man who claims his God told them to kill? But then, d problem is with d worshippers. Isaac and Ismael both came from Abraham and both serve d God of Abraham. D issue is that while Christians can hear from God through d Holy Spirit, the Muslims follow d dictates of Muhammed completely. He gives them instructions which he claims to hv heard from God, d same one Ismael served which is also our God. Many Christians won't agree that we serve d Same God because d instructions r completetly diff. Blame d channels not the source, but then ur purpose is to mock and all u will do is to pick Wot to criticize.
cc: obiZEAL, frank317,emmanystone

frank317:


Enough of ur word games. U cannot change whats glaring with words.
What stopped the God of Abraham to give Mohammed the same Holy spirit he gave to Christians. How can they be worshiping the same God differently yet u think u are worshiping him so better that u want to share the good news to them. Are u better than Mohammed? Are u better than ishmeal? How can u have access to the holy spirit and ishmeal who started worshiping God before u does not know it was necessary to tell his followers about the holy spirit.
If the channel is the same, why is the source different? Why is the channel ready to blame the multitude that has been misled by the source and choses to do nothing about it.

frank317:


Enough of ur word games. U cannot change whats glaring with words.
What stopped the God of Abraham to give Mohammed the same Holy spirit he gave to Christians. How can they be worshiping the same God differently yet u think u are worshiping him so better that u want to share the good news to them. Are u better than Mohammed? Are u better than ishmeal? How can u have access to the holy spirit and ishmeal who started worshiping God before u does not know it was necessary to tell his followers about the holy spirit.
If the channel is the same, why is the source different? Why is the channel ready to blame the multitude that has been misled by the source and choses to do nothing about it.

Ronpet777:


Yes... Isaac is the son of the legal occupant of the house and Ishmael is d son of a slave.
One is heir to the throne, the other is an illegitimate child.

Ronpet777:

God bless u sir. I didn't knw most of these though. This gives more credence to my claims. The problem actually are d channels and instructions.

Emmanystone:
What do you mean by Channels and instructions pls?