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Re: Patience Jonathan Begs EFCC: Let’s Settle by sekem: 4:14pm On Feb 13, 2018 |
12submarine:.. You sound so dumb 6 Likes |
Re: Patience Jonathan Begs EFCC: Let’s Settle by LordAdam16: 4:15pm On Feb 13, 2018 |
omohayek: Oh puhleaze, you are too educated for this. I'd expect this from buhariguy et al. who are paid sycophants employed to launder their employers image in whatever way possible. Buhari's speech on May 29th was "I belong to everybody, and I belong to nobody." Nigeria is destined to remain a stagnant sh*thole because people like you also exhibit the same criminal mentality that you question in others. PDP and SS/SE has continually said, we applaud the corruption fight, heck we were the ones who set up the EFCC, ICPC, BVN, IPPIS, and designed the TSA, WhistleBlower policy; so if you see something questionable, investigate it and jail the offender. Very simple. However, extend your blanket to EVERYONE! Why do you think there is uproar about the Fulani herdsmen killings? If you can roll the tanks to Borno, to Abia, and to Bayelsa; what's stopping you from rolling the tanks to Benue. We all know how Turai Yar'Adua ran her husband's government when he was incapacitated. Turai is alive. Turai is an ex-First Lady. She is a PDP member. But evidently, for some f*cked up reason, the EFCC can not scrutinize her account. And she's one of the thieves that exists and should go unpunished according to you. So stop playing it off as thieves who exist who have gone unpunished. To the government they don't even exist. Because if they did, they'd also be hounded. Unfairness in a corruption fight is corruption. OBJ fought corruption. But he only fought those who opposed him. All the case files of governors from the 1999/2003 set were opened because they opposed his 3rd term bid. Yar'Adua and GEJ both fought corruption. But they only fought those who opposed their governments. GEJ chased Ibori out and was instrumental to his capture and extradition to the UK but he pardoned Alams. I was of the opinion your kind didn't like their corruption fight because there were sacred cows. Now BUHARI who claims to be different is following in their footsteps. Go to the official EFCC public notice page--http://efccnigeria.org/efcc/public-notices, you'd find record of convictions and forfeitures stretching back to OBJ's years. Buhari, like his predecessors, is only fighting opponents. It does nothing to help fight corruption. In fact, it encourages corruption. As politicians and their cronies know that all they have to do is be in the President's (and his clique's) good books, and they can steal to their hearts contempt. That's why chronically corrupt people like Kyari, Kingibe, Maina, Lukman, et cetera would be able to serve comfortably under the military, PDP, APC, and god knows whatever new coalition comes next. And politicians like Saraki, Kwankwaso, Tinubu would steal comfortably regardless of party knowing they are power brokers. And all the while, they ensure that they divert focus from the most important thing that'd actually fight corruption. Preventing corruption. To this day, the ICPC by law is unable to check through the books of a state's finance while the governor is still in power. It has not been amended as I speak to you. It is a well orchestrated, deliberate attempt to allow governors steal while in power, and then if they play their cards well, whoever enters Abuja would not check their records. Buhari's government has not developed any process or measure to prevent corruption. The TSA and Whistleblower policies were both developed under GEJ, and were not ironed out thoroughly before they were released, which explains all the brouhaha about many MDAs, the military, et cetera not being captured. As I speak to you, I'm reliably informed that the IPPIS is being tampered with, but the Ministry of Finance is paying lip service to it. If you're going to support a lopsided, ineffective, drama called an "anti-corruption" fight; don't act surprised that someone is calling it out for what it is, a jamboree. You and the person who you like to call names are one and the same. CORRUPT to the core. All you're doing is giving reasons why friends of those in power who have looted can keep their loot, while the person you're calling names is giving reasons why his or her patrons who have looted but are not friends with those in power can keep their loot. You are corrupt, the person you quoted is corrupt. And tomorrow, the table will inevitably change, and you guys would be saying each other's words. In 2019, if PDP wins, many of the smart APC politicians would return back (and if APC wins, even more PDP politicians would port to the APC until the coast is clear), and less than 10% who are part of the mammoth looting going on now will be prosecuted. They'd negotiate their returns. Same returns will be relooted by those who'd jump ship later and would not be given account for. 4 or 8 years later, another party comes in, rinse and repeat. And you think you're moving forward. Not knowing you're moving in a wretched cycle. I'd give you a firm example: Ibrahim Lamorde was EFCC chairman under GEJ. He diverted 1 trillion naira of recovered funds. No, I did not mistype that. And yes, GEJ recovered trillions from corrupt people who were not in his camp. Here's an excerpt into the case: http://nigerianpilot.com/is-lamorde-corrupt/ Lamorde is currently the Commissioner of Police in charge of the Special Fraud Unit (SFU). A man who diverted at least 1 trillion naira and was [url=https://www.proshareng.com/news/Frauds---Scandals/What-Happened-To-Ibrahim-Lamorde%E2%80%99s-Arr/36887]declared wanted[/url] by the Senate. How do you convince someone from the opposition party or SE/SS that PEJ should be hounded for a few billions while Lamorde should keep his N1T loot? When they were both part of the same government and the EFCC can look into both their files with the click of a button. Is this how you expect Nigeria to become better? Is that how you fight corruption? -Lord 1 Like 3 Shares |
Re: Patience Jonathan Begs EFCC: Let’s Settle by sekem: 4:18pm On Feb 13, 2018 |
omohayek: Seems like you have a lot of time to waste arguing with all those wasted youths who are totally incapable of reasoning like human beings? 3 Likes |
Re: Patience Jonathan Begs EFCC: Let’s Settle by tiger28: 4:26pm On Feb 13, 2018 |
Useless9jagirls:TYPICAL illiterate! Meanwhile they are sharing your monies while you are STILL jobless.....wake up mumu Nigerians! 5 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Patience Jonathan Begs EFCC: Let’s Settle by seguno2: 4:31pm On Feb 13, 2018 |
jnfoage: Those under a spell and curse are the ones being taken for a ride by the thieving hypocrite in Aso Rock. How many people have been jailed for the corruption in the Aso Rock clinic which has a budget bigger than all Teaching hospitals combined yet has no paracetamol? Southerners will forever be enslaved by those who require only 02 cutoff point to enter Unity schools. 1 Like |
Re: Patience Jonathan Begs EFCC: Let’s Settle by seguno2: 4:34pm On Feb 13, 2018 |
GavelSlam: Including Buhari who said in 2008 that Abacha did not steal our money despite returned loot ![]() Buhari = bigotry = rogue. Buhari is a monumental error of gargantuan proportions that must be corrected in 2019. |
Re: Patience Jonathan Begs EFCC: Let’s Settle by seguno2: 4:36pm On Feb 13, 2018 |
jpphilips: You should know since that was how you came into existence ![]() |
Re: Patience Jonathan Begs EFCC: Let’s Settle by seunmsg(m): 4:38pm On Feb 13, 2018 |
Bobby808: Your point exactly? 3 Likes |
Re: Patience Jonathan Begs EFCC: Let’s Settle by Lot13(m): 4:47pm On Feb 13, 2018 |
Angelb4:And God bless all patriots who supports the war against corruption and forgive those wailers who knows not why they are wailing. 4 Likes |
Re: Patience Jonathan Begs EFCC: Let’s Settle by Danialuone: 4:52pm On Feb 13, 2018 |
CHAII cHAII bUHARI ,Chaii EFCC .........Na only me waka come......diar is god oooooooo 1 Like |
Re: Patience Jonathan Begs EFCC: Let’s Settle by Praktikals(m): 5:11pm On Feb 13, 2018 |
LordAdam16:Sire, this piece you put up qualifies to be called a beautiful nonsense. You are using your God given wisdom to abet corruption. Jonathan recovered trillions? Are you fucking kidding me? TSA, BVN blablabla: Did he possess the political will to implement any of them.? Throughout Jonathan reign jamb never remitted more than N3milla (no thanks to mysterious 'snakes' ) but decleared 7billa under sai baba 11 Likes 5 Shares |
Re: Patience Jonathan Begs EFCC: Let’s Settle by mechanics(m): 5:21pm On Feb 13, 2018 |
She knows her game is up, that's why she's begging, no one can fight EFCC and expect to go like that, she must be willing to submit all stolen money. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Patience Jonathan Begs EFCC: Let’s Settle by So101: 5:26pm On Feb 13, 2018 |
LordAdam16:Lord of Goats na him you be.. no vex but it’s true. So you write this long rubbish just to talk nonsense and worry poor nairalanders brain? we no say you dey campaign mode but keep that fowl mess to yourself and your goats wey you be Lord over. We don’t need it tell your pay master we really don’t 8 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Patience Jonathan Begs EFCC: Let’s Settle by Bhol28: 5:48pm On Feb 13, 2018 |
To those saying she is being prosecuted by wrong people.why dont we first appreciate the fact that we have a govt which is presently going tough on all these high class treasury looters.The fact still remains that Nigeria is where it is today due to the past unprecedented massive lootery of the past govts.The present govt is being forced to diversify the economy simply because our past leaders refused to save for the rainy days.We should pray for the successive govts to continue disgracing looters and see if in the long run Nigeria will not be better off 3 Likes |
Re: Patience Jonathan Begs EFCC: Let’s Settle by Awoo88: 5:57pm On Feb 13, 2018 |
seunmsg:If you think that will go to jail then you don't know Nigeria |
Re: Patience Jonathan Begs EFCC: Let’s Settle by Augiiee(m): 6:19pm On Feb 13, 2018 |
12submarine: 2 Likes
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Re: Patience Jonathan Begs EFCC: Let’s Settle by Habibatuley23: 6:28pm On Feb 13, 2018 |
Useless9jagirls: Eyaah I feel ur pain jare it's just that it's too late now that corruption captains are madly in charge ![]() Sorry enh! 1 Like |
Re: Patience Jonathan Begs EFCC: Let’s Settle by LordAdam16: 6:50pm On Feb 13, 2018 |
Praktikals: It is not my fault that you are ignorant. In two years alone, 2010 and 2011; $6.5b (equivalent to N0.975 trillion at 150/$ exchange rate. At the current official exchange rate of 305/$, that is N1.9 trillion) was recovered under GEJ. Link -- https://www.proshareng.com/news/Nigeria%20Economy/The-Economic-and-Financial-Crimes-Commissions-Efccs-Critical-Role-in-Growing-the-Economy/14392 In comparison, under Magu, the EFCC has recovered $2.9b in 2 years. Link -- https://www.vanguardngr.com/2017/11/efcc-recovers-2-9b-looted-cash-2-years/ I deal on verifiable stats, not beer parlor gossips. GEJ recovered present day equiv of N1.9t in 2 years, that's proof of my statement. Did GEJ not implement BVN? Did GEJ not implement IPPIS? What are you on about? TSA and the Whistleblower policy were being developed by GEJ's team. They weren't ready for prime time, but Buhari implemented them anyway. If GEJ could implement IPPIS that has removed tens of thousands of ghost workers, why do you think he would have lacked the will to implement the Whistleblower policy. Seriously, which one sounds harder to implement? I'm asking, what has PMB initiated and developed? He has to continue building on the foundation of his predecessors. If you aren't actively going on overdrive to prevent corruption, then whatever you recover from your political enemies will be re-looted through the porous systems by your corrupt friends. And it will be a never ending cycle that solves nothing. That's the summary of my epistle above. If you read it, and more importantly can understand it, you'd get more valuable information about the present polity. I will not engage a political sycophant. I know where your next meal is coming from. The person I sent that reply to is far more intelligent than you'd ever be, and that's why the reply is detailed. If you can't decipher it, don't rack your brain. It's not for you. You're dumb, that's all there is to it. It's not your fault. You were born that way, and unfortunately for you, you never tried to improve yourself intellectually. Go do dumb people things and converse with people who are at your level. -Lord |
Re: Patience Jonathan Begs EFCC: Let’s Settle by LordAdam16: 6:57pm On Feb 13, 2018 |
So101: Don't stress yourself. It's not for you. It's deliberately lengthy so intellectually inept people like yourselves can show their idiocy. If you were normal and claim that it is nonsense, you'd make an equally detailed reply to show your point. But since you are some unintelligent pawn whose purpose in life is to be used aimlessly by selfish politicians, you're unable to. So live your simple life, and in 2019, go queue and collect 2k to vote the party that tells you the most convincing lies. I really don't give a sh*t! -Lord |
Re: Patience Jonathan Begs EFCC: Let’s Settle by ivandragon: 8:06pm On Feb 13, 2018 |
regardless of the motive behind the release of this information to the public at this time, the EFCC should ensure that PGEJ is prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. that buratai or babachir are walking free enjoying their is no excuse for PGEJ to walk free with hers. 4 Likes |
Re: Patience Jonathan Begs EFCC: Let’s Settle by nex(m): 8:16pm On Feb 13, 2018 |
EFCC is not supposed to come public with this letter till they have gotten adequate information and confession from her which will ensure she forfeits everything, or which will ensure a very airtight case in court. To be honest, the EFCC talks too much! |
Re: Patience Jonathan Begs EFCC: Let’s Settle by ashjay001(m): 8:49pm On Feb 13, 2018 |
tofolo: Na $40b o ![]() |
Re: Patience Jonathan Begs EFCC: Let’s Settle by nextstep(m): 9:27pm On Feb 13, 2018 |
She wants "mutual understanding and peaceful coexistence"... Madam P, please return our money... that's the only way to guarantee this peaceful coexistence you seek. Ole. But of course, I'm also looking at some of PMB's people who are being allowed to walk free without hindrance, and can't help but wonder if this is a witch hunt... 1 Like |
Re: Patience Jonathan Begs EFCC: Let’s Settle by EnkayDezign4: 10:02pm On Feb 13, 2018 |
muykem: I dey teh yuh! 1 Like |
Re: Patience Jonathan Begs EFCC: Let’s Settle by EnkayDezign4: 10:05pm On Feb 13, 2018 |
BafanaBafana: 1 Like
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Re: Patience Jonathan Begs EFCC: Let’s Settle by victorazy(m): 10:13pm On Feb 13, 2018 |
seunmsg: Go jail for how many years now? |
Re: Patience Jonathan Begs EFCC: Let’s Settle by So101: 10:48pm On Feb 13, 2018 |
LordAdam16: Clearly you too talk broda..If them look well you fit no get handwork! See if you are intelligent and not a wannabe you would see clearly that every politician is a potential liar! Buhari may not be the best but for now he is our best chance against the wounded lions called pdp, you can testify say hunger wey dey knack you since 2015 na due to lack of free money instead of you to do something meaningful you dey bid time with Big Big talk hoping say free money regime go come back wake up bruv stop the nonsense oh! i was against Wike in the last election due to affiliation but I can’t let that cloud my judgement by failing to appreciate any meaningful achievement of his administration, because I realize that will be counter productive. Buhari piss you complain him no piss you complain you all need to get a grip on this stupid senseless hate!! Be humble only hungry men dey give themselves big name like Lord Bewarned!!! 3 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Patience Jonathan Begs EFCC: Let’s Settle by LordAdam16: 10:52pm On Feb 13, 2018 |
So101: Live your simple life, and in 2019, go queue and collect 2k to vote the party that tells you the most convincing lies. I really don't give a sh*t! The person I directed the post to has read it and gotten my point. So whatever you have or will type is useless to me. Get that into your thick skull. -Lord |
Re: Patience Jonathan Begs EFCC: Let’s Settle by So101: 11:04pm On Feb 13, 2018 |
LordAdam16:Atleast I know how you’ll be making your next 2k it doesn’t bother me nor does it interest me I fit send you 2k so you can stop the advertising since that’s your price send your account details.. Good thing you know my skull too strong for your mumu talk 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Patience Jonathan Begs EFCC: Let’s Settle by omohayek: 11:07pm On Feb 13, 2018 |
seguno2:Nonsense! This ridiculous statement is just an excuse for doing nothing: we aren't discussing religion here, but corruption in politics. Even a biased and half-baked corruption crackdown is better than none, and the right response to such selective policing is for the opposition to pay back the favor when power changes hands. Corruption in Nigerian politics will only seriously decline once all politicians realize that by stealing they are handing future weapons against themselves to their opponents; the fear of future prosecution is the beginning of political rectitude. There are only two possibilities I can see for this insistence on ignoring particular politicians' thieving on the basis of the supposed selectivity of the prosecutions: either many Nigerians really are too stupid to appreciate that they are effectively arguing for complete impunity for crooks, or they are so morally compromised that they don't believe corruption is really something worth condemning, especially when carried out by their own "kinsmen", "pikin" or "sons" and "daughters" - not even when those "sons" and "daughters" are using funds meant for providing clean water and decent roads for their precious "kinsmen" to buy mansions in London and Dubai. 4 Likes |
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