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Re: The Church Of GOD In Nigeria Is Not The Government Of Nigeria - Nneka Okumazie by oyetpel(m): 9:32pm On Feb 14, 2018
The powerful have always preyed on the powerless, that's how they became powerful in the first place
Re: The Church Of GOD In Nigeria Is Not The Government Of Nigeria - Nneka Okumazie by texazzpete(m): 11:23pm On Feb 14, 2018
Clyod:



I will take your rants seriously when I see your efforts in condemning your wicked leaders that exploit you and rape you inspite of your resources.

Which Pastor has forcefully collected funds from you? These guys are some of the reasons people like us are proud to be Nigerian. Their works speak evidently for them. Their universities have high standards and vompetiting globally in a short time already with high prospects of getting to the top.

They are massive employers of labours.

All your govt does is flaunt cars and decieve you.

Instead of you to pray for God to give you wisdom to create wealth you are getting bitter for nothing.

May God deliver you from the poverty of your mind


LMAO.

you poor, deluded child...spewing the exact same claptrap all other idolaters use to reply fact based criticism of your gods.

At least my post history is there to show consistent criricism of bad leaders. So your first point is borne out of unbridled ignorance. Additionally, since I havent ever been fleeced by one of your idols, why would I be bitter?

Better flee from this mental slavery before it is too late o!
Re: The Church Of GOD In Nigeria Is Not The Government Of Nigeria - Nneka Okumazie by edupedia: 11:38pm On Feb 14, 2018
Asuokaa:
The church cannot be bullied

...and vice- versa....
Re: The Church Of GOD In Nigeria Is Not The Government Of Nigeria - Nneka Okumazie by jacyhelen(f): 9:54am On Feb 15, 2018
HigherEd:
By Nneka Okumazie

The biggest problem Nigeria has is lack of good focus. There is no focus on major or simple problems, everything that is a debate or topic or focus or projects is not what will truly move Nigeria forward. Instead it is one foolish debate after another, one baseless argument after another, one terrible headline and no simple or useful sense to combat major problems from responsible quarters.

The most common foolishness in Nigeria now is criticism of the Church of GOD; Church, tithe, first fruits, Church online offering, Church private jets, Church pastors, Church branches, Church universities, Church testimonies, Church teachings, Church poor members, etc.



The debate is so stupid, so foolish, so flawed that no matter how smart a person may feel, the moment you participate in these kinds of argument, you are in the realm of the obtuse.

Nobody says true Churches are beyond criticism, they are not; nobody says there are no fake churches or feigned Christianity practices, there are. But in terms of many of the arguments against the Church of GOD, conflicted for the role of government, it is complete foolishness no matter who you are.



The mission of the Church of GOD is not to develop Nigeria. The Church is not even as cash rich as major oil, telecommunication, bank or top lotto, companies. The Church is about the Kingdom of GOD and the message of Jesus Christ of Nazareth.

So many useless CSR in Nigeria, nobody can face them relentlessly as Daddy Freeze against the Church of GOD. So many companies with opaque deductions and charges with nothing revolutionary back into the country sympathizers of these companies say they are a business with shareholders for profit, not development.




They are exempted, but the Church of GOD is responsible for development, OK.

Entertainment in Nigeria is already saturated. Most contents are low quality, vulgar songs, awkward insensitive jokes, terrible film plots, mediocre football and other sport performance, yet entertainment sponsorship is highest in Nigeria. Entertainment is not development. In fact those low quality, uninspiring, entertainment are not relevant to mental or national development.

Yet, nobody can touch or criticize entertainment. How many songs can a person listen to or movies in Nigeria that will make an individual think to become a better professional? Yet people go to the Church of GOD, learn, get encouraged, and want to be better and ambitious on earth and for heaven. So this true Church is the problem, OK.

In Nigeria, why should you not go to Church, and pray, whether it is answered or not, if the prayer or well-wishing prophecies makes you feel better, why not? There is no security, no hospital, no safety, no light, no road, no money, no water, no order, no guarantee, no fire extinguisher, no law, no transparency, no equal opportunity, no investigation, no justice, fraud everywhere, corruption everywhere, no progress, no quality control, dirty environment, fetidness, direct and indirect prostitution, no sound education, no work, only one state is trying to be functional, no food, and no future, nothing, why should a person not go to Church?

Young Nigerians are leaving the country desperately, some drown at sea, some are stranded abroad, but finding ways to solve all the causes of this problem with the federal and state governments or some very useful CSR is not the case. It is the Church online giving that is the problem, OK.

People forget that the problems of Nigeria drove Church growth, not otherwise. If you want economic and infrastructural development from the Church of GOD, ask the government to pay taxes and oil revenues there. But the Church of GOD does what it has to do for its mission from the Scriptures.

Some people will like the option to pay online instead of cash, if the option is not for you ignore, it is not a reason for cheap shot at the Church when there are other organization options too and so many problems around, with no good sense or suggestion and realistic solutions with your vile platform.

If an overseer, truly called of GOD rides a private jet, let GOD who called that overseer be the judge. But that a Church owns a private jet and it is a reason to connect jet to poverty, sorry, the Church of GOD does not have the political power, policies and resources to alleviate poverty in this oddish Nigeria. Besides, if the worst thing an overseer will do is use a private jet that everyone knows about, it is far better than so many appalling things many kinds of terrible religious clerics do that no one knows about.

There are so many sectors and industries in Nigeria not under the power of the government, but those people there by themselves cannot reform themselves to shape their work to make Nigeria a better place. But from every angle, the Church is adjudged the problem, false, lie, false.

There are righteous rich people in true Churches in Nigeria, they support the work. Those who do not have enough, give what they have, not under any force. The Church of GOD is where true Christians connect with the Comforter, and they come, rich or poor, in joy or sadness. The Church of GOD is a place where lives are touched and minds are renewed.

But this Church is under attack. Not fair attack, not wise attacks, foolishness, and you watch how it has now become normal, on Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, by those who opted to blindfold themselves and think the Church should be what they interpret not about the Kingdom of GOD.

Until Nigeria as a country starts to focus on actual development, there is almost no way it will move forward. There is nobody in this world that can turn off the Light of the Church of GOD, no matter the bitter attacks. Christians started in the Acts of the Apostles, and will remain until Jesus Christ of Nazareth returns, to redeem them to Him...

https://www.pmnewsnigeria.com/2018/02/09/church-god-nigeria-not-government-nigeria/

Lalasticlala

totally rubbish and mundane write up to Justify one thing: TITHE....
Re: The Church Of GOD In Nigeria Is Not The Government Of Nigeria - Nneka Okumazie by Nobody: 7:17am On Feb 16, 2018
Desyner:
If you are not a believer and have no input in something that doesn't infringe on your right, it will amount to misplaced priority for you to criticize that thing. Do you criticize a group of market or society women who contribute to a trusted fellow? If no, then you have no right to criticize the church because it is nothing more than a group of individuals (members) who pay money (sow seeds) towards a cause they believe in and that's handle by God's chosen representatives(pastors). When you criticize the leadership of such a group without belonging to it, you are challenging the members' right to trust and associate with that authority.

But it affects most of us one way or the other , I give my mum 20000 naira monthly for things she needs , added to her pensions this should be enough for her , my niece staying with her and the maid yet before mid month she's asking for more money saying she has exhausted what she has. I only got to know recently from my niece that she donates to every church donation/church programme and in some months she has given out more than 25000 naira , and you say it's misplaced priority to speak out against these thieves in robes
Re: The Church Of GOD In Nigeria Is Not The Government Of Nigeria - Nneka Okumazie by Nobody: 7:21am On Feb 16, 2018
Shewbread:

see, handover this country to these men of God you are bashing and see how they will change the country overnight.


You're kidding right ?
Re: The Church Of GOD In Nigeria Is Not The Government Of Nigeria - Nneka Okumazie by Nobody: 7:33am On Feb 16, 2018
Clyod:



I will take your rants seriously when I see your efforts in condemning your wicked leaders that exploit you and rape you inspite of your resources.

Which Pastor has forcefully collected funds from you? These guys are some of the reasons people like us are proud to be Nigerian. Their works speak evidently for them. Their universities have high standards and vompetiting globally in a short time already with high prospects of getting to the top.

They are massive employers of labours.

All your govt does is flaunt cars and decieve you.

Instead of you to pray for God to give you wisdom to create wealth you are getting bitter for nothing.

May God deliver you from the poverty of your mind


You're such a dolt
Re: The Church Of GOD In Nigeria Is Not The Government Of Nigeria - Nneka Okumazie by Nobody: 7:34am On Feb 16, 2018
Desyner:
I criticized MMM cos it caused inflation. People stop producing the goods that money was suppose to help buy and started doubling their money.

You're one deluded muthafocker
Re: The Church Of GOD In Nigeria Is Not The Government Of Nigeria - Nneka Okumazie by Nobody: 7:44am On Feb 16, 2018
computer0810:
criticize what u have no right on or what is none of ur business or where u Neva invested in, use ur brain


Shut up!
Re: The Church Of GOD In Nigeria Is Not The Government Of Nigeria - Nneka Okumazie by Nobody: 7:46am On Feb 16, 2018
Desyner:
Nigerian leaders have been stealing since the days when churches were as poor as church-rat and churches believed wealth was a road to hell fire, so stop that daft talk of churches inspiring leaders to steal funds.


Oh so since the politicians are stealing then they should join them too , wehdone sa
Re: The Church Of GOD In Nigeria Is Not The Government Of Nigeria - Nneka Okumazie by Desyner: 9:41am On Feb 16, 2018
neoapocalypse:


But it affects most of us one way or the other , I give my mum 20000 naira monthly for things she needs , added to her pensions this should be enough for her , my niece staying with her and the maid yet before mid month she's asking for more money saying she has exhausted what she has. I only got to know recently from my niece that she donates to every church donation/church programme and in some months she has given out more than 25000 naira , and you say it's misplaced priority to speak out against these thieves in robes
speak out against your mum and not pastors who didn't force her.
Re: The Church Of GOD In Nigeria Is Not The Government Of Nigeria - Nneka Okumazie by Nobody: 10:01am On Feb 16, 2018
Desyner:
speak out against your mum and not pastors who didn't force her.



But it is the pastors who are deceiving her , imaging telling her that whatever you give on Earth is recorded in heaven and will count for your salvation , isn't that like saying she can buy her way into heaven , that is so not right. Maybe you don't get it , the criticism against the church is for incidents like these , you can not buy your way into heaven , pastors should stop doing this as it is no different from 419. The house of God is for helping lost souls not for amassing earthly possessions.
Re: The Church Of GOD In Nigeria Is Not The Government Of Nigeria - Nneka Okumazie by Desyner: 10:04am On Feb 16, 2018
neoapocalypse:



But it is the pastors who are deceiving her , imaging telling her that whatever you give on Earth is recorded in heaven and will count for your salvation , isn't that like saying she can buy her way into heaven , that is so not right. Maybe you don't get it , the criticism against the church is for incidents like these , you can not buy your way into heaven , pastors should stop doing this as it is no different from 419. The house of God is for helping lost souls not for amassing earthly possessions.
While there a few dishonest pastors around, we still have lots of good ones out there. Let her change her church if the pastor is the problem. Tithe is 10%. Most seeds are voluntary.
Re: The Church Of GOD In Nigeria Is Not The Government Of Nigeria - Nneka Okumazie by Nobody: 10:08am On Feb 16, 2018
neoapocalypse:



But it is the pastors who are deceiving her , imaging telling her that whatever you give on Earth is recorded in heaven and will count for your salvation , isn't that like saying she can buy her way into heaven , that is so not right. Maybe you don't get it , the criticism against the church is for incidents like these , you can not buy your way into heaven , pastors should stop doing this as it is no different from 419. The house of God is for helping lost souls not for amassing earthly possessions.


*Imagine* dang this autocorrect
Re: The Church Of GOD In Nigeria Is Not The Government Of Nigeria - Nneka Okumazie by Desyner: 11:41am On Feb 16, 2018
neoapocalypse:



But it is the pastors who are deceiving her , imaging telling her that whatever you give on Earth is recorded in heaven and will count for your salvation , isn't that like saying she can buy her way into heaven , that is so not right. Maybe you don't get it , the criticism against the church is for incidents like these , you can not buy your way into heaven , pastors should stop doing this as it is no different from 419. The house of God is for helping lost souls not for amassing earthly possessions.
Stop contradicting the Bible. Whoeve giveth to the poor lendeth unto the Lord.
Re: The Church Of GOD In Nigeria Is Not The Government Of Nigeria - Nneka Okumazie by Nobody: 12:32pm On Feb 16, 2018
Desyner:
Stop contradicting the Bible. Whoeve giveth to the poor lendeth unto the Lord.


I'm not the one saying it , it's your thieving pastors who said it. Then you said "whoever giveth to the poor" and not to the pastor or church , so why are you against the criticism of these thieving M.O.G since your quote specifically says giving to the poor

Get your priorities right homie
Re: The Church Of GOD In Nigeria Is Not The Government Of Nigeria - Nneka Okumazie by danye8: 8:46am On Nov 05, 2018
HigherEd:
By Nneka Okumazie

The biggest problem Nigeria has is lack of good focus. There is no focus on major or simple problems, everything that is a debate or topic or focus or projects is not what will truly move Nigeria forward. Instead it is one foolish debate after another, one baseless argument after another, one terrible headline and no simple or useful sense to combat major problems from responsible quarters.

The most common foolishness in Nigeria now is criticism of the Church of GOD; Church, tithe, first fruits, Church online offering, Church private jets, Church pastors, Church branches, Church universities, Church testimonies, Church teachings, Church poor members, etc.



The debate is so stupid, so foolish, so flawed that no matter how smart a person may feel, the moment you participate in these kinds of argument, you are in the realm of the obtuse.

Nobody says true Churches are beyond criticism, they are not; nobody says there are no fake churches or feigned Christianity practices, there are. But in terms of many of the arguments against the Church of GOD, conflicted for the role of government, it is complete foolishness no matter who you are.



The mission of the Church of GOD is not to develop Nigeria. The Church is not even as cash rich as major oil, telecommunication, bank or top lotto, companies. The Church is about the Kingdom of GOD and the message of Jesus Christ of Nazareth.

So many useless CSR in Nigeria, nobody can face them relentlessly as Daddy Freeze against the Church of GOD. So many companies with opaque deductions and charges with nothing revolutionary back into the country sympathizers of these companies say they are a business with shareholders for profit, not development.




They are exempted, but the Church of GOD is responsible for development, OK.

Entertainment in Nigeria is already saturated. Most contents are low quality, vulgar songs, awkward insensitive jokes, terrible film plots, mediocre football and other sport performance, yet entertainment sponsorship is highest in Nigeria. Entertainment is not development. In fact those low quality, uninspiring, entertainment are not relevant to mental or national development.

Yet, nobody can touch or criticize entertainment. How many songs can a person listen to or movies in Nigeria that will make an individual think to become a better professional? Yet people go to the Church of GOD, learn, get encouraged, and want to be better and ambitious on earth and for heaven. So this true Church is the problem, OK.

In Nigeria, why should you not go to Church, and pray, whether it is answered or not, if the prayer or well-wishing prophecies makes you feel better, why not? There is no security, no hospital, no safety, no light, no road, no money, no water, no order, no guarantee, no fire extinguisher, no law, no transparency, no equal opportunity, no investigation, no justice, fraud everywhere, corruption everywhere, no progress, no quality control, dirty environment, fetidness, direct and indirect prostitution, no sound education, no work, only one state is trying to be functional, no food, and no future, nothing, why should a person not go to Church?

Young Nigerians are leaving the country desperately, some drown at sea, some are stranded abroad, but finding ways to solve all the causes of this problem with the federal and state governments or some very useful CSR is not the case. It is the Church online giving that is the problem, OK.

People forget that the problems of Nigeria drove Church growth, not otherwise. If you want economic and infrastructural development from the Church of GOD, ask the government to pay taxes and oil revenues there. But the Church of GOD does what it has to do for its mission from the Scriptures.

Some people will like the option to pay online instead of cash, if the option is not for you ignore, it is not a reason for cheap shot at the Church when there are other organization options too and so many problems around, with no good sense or suggestion and realistic solutions with your vile platform.

If an overseer, truly called of GOD rides a private jet, let GOD who called that overseer be the judge. But that a Church owns a private jet and it is a reason to connect jet to poverty, sorry, the Church of GOD does not have the political power, policies and resources to alleviate poverty in this oddish Nigeria. Besides, if the worst thing an overseer will do is use a private jet that everyone knows about, it is far better than so many appalling things many kinds of terrible religious clerics do that no one knows about.

There are so many sectors and industries in Nigeria not under the power of the government, but those people there by themselves cannot reform themselves to shape their work to make Nigeria a better place. But from every angle, the Church is adjudged the problem, false, lie, false.

There are righteous rich people in true Churches in Nigeria, they support the work. Those who do not have enough, give what they have, not under any force. The Church of GOD is where true Christians connect with the Comforter, and they come, rich or poor, in joy or sadness. The Church of GOD is a place where lives are touched and minds are renewed.

But this Church is under attack. Not fair attack, not wise attacks, foolishness, and you watch how it has now become normal, on Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, by those who opted to blindfold themselves and think the Church should be what they interpret not about the Kingdom of GOD.

Until Nigeria as a country starts to focus on actual development, there is almost no way it will move forward. There is nobody in this world that can turn off the Light of the Church of GOD, no matter the bitter attacks. Christians started in the Acts of the Apostles, and will remain until Jesus Christ of Nazareth returns, to redeem them to Him...

https://www.pmnewsnigeria.com/2018/02/09/church-god-nigeria-not-government-nigeria/

Lalasticlala
Hey everyone disregard this write up by nneka okumazie who by all her articles I have read shows her lack of knowledge is glaring when it comes to Christianity and bible.She writes on emotions and sentiments,using much vocabularies and twisting words just to look like a good writer but hardly gives Biblical passages(not one line verse like she does)to explain her message like freeze does,so until she starts doing that I already have my favourite motivational speakers who who I enjoy reading their texts and I don't want to add to the list with nneka okumazie because motivational speaking isn't the gospel and it shows the people who she has been listening to for biblical messages because she doesn't sound different from them with her emotional and sentimental writings without biblical bases.If freeze is the devil,how come he defends his teachings with the scriptures and also shares more light about it's history(like it or not Christianity has history and has been used for political, selfish, pagan and fraudulent courses in the past)and your GOs and pastors who attack him can't use the scriptures. Even when Christ was tempted by Satan with scriptures he used scriptures too to counter Satan but your GOs can't even do same.How do you expect me to disregard a man like freeze who says something and explains it with bible passages (not one verse oo) to back up his message but your GOs who says he is lieing can't use biblical passages?.You continued by saying tithing has been practiced for thousands of years in the 'church' which is false because you don't know history to know it was introduced about some few centuries back,you don't know the Pentecostal history, you don't know the politics that made the bible passages that were selected over others so,you don't know the people who selected them if they were demons or politicians,you don't know the origin and symbolism of Judaism and it's role in Christianity, you don't know the Antichrist,the people who are the world,the 'Church',religion, what Christ stood for etc......I'm sorry to look intent on bragging but you need to pause whatever dislike you have for freeze and open your heart and take some time to listen to some of his teachings(there are over 250 on YouTube) and understand his point of view because he says them with scriptures. At least if someone who claims to know your faith more than you is doing so with scriptures from that faith and historical facts shouldn't you be worried that you might be the one in error?......Daddy freeze says he is born again, says about 95% of what we have been taught in our faith is a lie,he believes in Christ and the resurrection,etc here him out first and counter him with biblical passages which you think is without bias if you have any........Anybody who has been following freeze(like me who has watched about 100 of his videos) will see your lack of knowledge in your write up because we have been well fed by messages backed up BY SCRIPTURES not quoted out of context. I taught I knew the Bible and understood Christianity until I started listening to freeze and also reading my bible.I think you should do same if you wish.

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