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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by onegentleguy: 1:18pm On Feb 17, 2018 |
emmanuelewumi: ...Yet another very fine post from someone who is pursuing perfection in the act of understanding the dynamic nature of the Nigerian Stock Exchange. A big Kudos to u Pa Emma. ...U my dear are a person too many !! Indeed on the 1st part in bold, am sure some folks are not seen this. ...they are a bit concerned about their debt burden, but aren't seen their strength and consistency on deleverage servicing. ...and the 2nd part in bold cannot be over-emphasized, especially that of mastering ones emotions. like I always say; If and when u fail to create a workable plan for urself, the market will create one for u. ...and often times they just might not be good ones. 2 Likes |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by pluto09(m): 1:39pm On Feb 17, 2018 |
RabbiDoracle: This is not the first time they will be having a negative cash flow. This is Nigeria and I can bet it FMN will pay cash dividend. 2 Likes |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Parisfran(f): 1:43pm On Feb 17, 2018 |
RabbiDoracle: OK thanks |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by pluto09(m): 1:47pm On Feb 17, 2018 |
Agbalowomeri: No matter what you say I no go mention the name of the stock until I am done buying. If the big monies in NSEMPA should visit the stock, na to cause katakata be that ![]() |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by onegentleguy: 1:55pm On Feb 17, 2018 |
emmanuelewumi: This is very true. ...but if the clear expectation of a great improvement in WC and a robust BS is met, the company might decide to shelve this in the near term. There i also an option on the table to raise the next trench of fund via a select 2 core FPI. ...I can say here that management is also thinking in that regard, but I'll stop there for now. In all the share price is currently not where its suppose to be, and will move up sooner rather than later. ...this is where Onegentleguy is interested in. ...for he tries his little best to follow the money, and have since invited those who likes to do same to join him. ...While we await Mr TIME to do his thing. ![]() ![]() NOTE: Onegentleguy might also be engrossed in some wild imagination. ...so this should not be seen as an investment advise. DD always advised pls. |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by onegentleguy: 2:01pm On Feb 17, 2018 |
shigidi: ...U have a very good foresight my dear !! There was just an urgent need to deleverage their balance sheet, especially those with a high accrued interest. Mr TIME will make things a lot more clearer for some folks. ...only problem is that the said clarity might come at a time when it could be 'extremely difficult for them to Flour their Mill'. ![]() ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by emmanuelewumi(m): 2:05pm On Feb 17, 2018 |
onegentleguy: The option of inviting 2 foreign investors can't work. Shareholders won't approve that, they can either do a right issue, public offer or a combination of right offer and public offer. |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Mpeace(m): 2:09pm On Feb 17, 2018 |
RabbiDoracle:Larfage did rights issue, has negative everything, are planning ti issue bonds etc yet they have announced a closed period and board meeting to consider result and dividend. Guiness did rights issue in july 2017 and by sept 2017 they paid dividends. 3 Likes |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Agbalowomeri: 2:23pm On Feb 17, 2018 |
pluto09: Keep buying, I keep dumping ![]() |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by pluto09(m): 2:26pm On Feb 17, 2018 |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by pluto09(m): 2:30pm On Feb 17, 2018 |
Agbalowomeri: No be u na dey talk say the bull will continue to run and will not stop (not even say to drink water) until Diamond reach km4, transcorp km7 ![]() Or you think say Diamond will reach km4 before Fidelity ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Deadlytruth(m): 2:33pm On Feb 17, 2018 |
wanaj0: Very correct on the bolded. Some of such fundamentally defective stocks might be so beyond salvage that they eventually get delisted and the long term philosophy fails in the end and leaves the long termer in final loss. Examples are Costain and others currently under delisting process like DEAP, Evans Medicals, etc., hence for me the uncertainty which defines the Nigerian investment environment is not worth the pain of excessive long terming and does not really guarantee eventual victory in the end. Whenever I realize that I have fallen into a troubled company which may not survive the trouble, I just cut my losses and move on but may return to it if and when it begins to show signs of genuine and sustainable recovery in order to resume from where I stopped with it. 1 Like |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Agbalowomeri: 2:36pm On Feb 17, 2018 |
pluto09: I have always rated Diamond more than Fidelity (gut) and diamond will still surpass 5 if this bull continues on the long run; I don't have anything to do with transcorp; don't join me with loco/Peterichy |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by onegentleguy: 2:46pm On Feb 17, 2018 |
fxuser: 1st i'd like to say that there is absolutely no such thing as a 'definite formulae' especially in this clime. ...for one might go for one option and in no time, Mr MARKET might decide to tour a different path and vise versa. I think its a thing of knowing what best strategy to implore within the limits of what works for u. ...and going ahead to stick religiously to it. However, on a personal note I always go for; option A, if the said coy is fundamentally sound and my loss position is greater than 25% but not more than 50%. option B, if the said coy is fundamentally sound and my loss position is less than 20% on average entry. option C, if the said coy is fundamentally not so sound and my loss position is more than 10%. and option D if the said coy is fundamentally very healthy with a clear prospect to better their health (ie DF, DS and CAVERTON). In all, I think the KEY lies in having a workable plan that gives u more and takes away less, and then sticking judiciously to it. 5 Likes |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Agbalowomeri: 3:01pm On Feb 17, 2018 |
pluto09: Na joke o before you say na me dump illiquid babe on you. I don't do illiquid babes ![]() I like them large and succulent |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Onuokwu: 3:06pm On Feb 17, 2018 |
emmanuelewumi: This recent rights offer? |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by onegentleguy: 3:19pm On Feb 17, 2018 |
Deadlytruth: Both the Trader/speculator, short/medium term and Long term investor can often times reap a good measure from their investment as long as they have a workable plan that they adhere strictly to. The problem is that some folks relate and interpret long term investment to buying a stock and then going to sleep. ...Just because a coy is healthy today does not necessary mean that it will continue to be healthy tomorrow. ...for even humans fall sick every now and then. I think a proper understanding of a long term investment entails buying into a fundamentally sound coy at a good discount margin from their intrinsic value and always following up with a keen eye on it. ...that way, u would know when ur coy falls sick, and then take the necessary immediate action. This is why the likes of Pa Emma have tended to succeed as a long term investor. ...that's also why folks like Sir KOD, WANAJO and BIGJAY have also done very well in this regard. |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by pluto09(m): 3:20pm On Feb 17, 2018 |
Agbalowomeri: Lol ![]() You don't need to tell me that you like them large, why do people think you dey follow yariya up and dawn ![]() ![]() |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by wanaj0: 3:22pm On Feb 17, 2018 |
RabbiDoracle: I think there was a year Flour Mills made a loss. Doubt they paid any dividend that year. They had foreign currency denominated loan. Devaluation made them to incur losses due to foreign exchange translations. Valuation of bluechip stocks is hardly based on dividend yield. Growth rate matters more than dividend yield. It is not also a good stock for traders. |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by OBAGADAFFI: 3:25pm On Feb 17, 2018 |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by wanaj0: 3:32pm On Feb 17, 2018 |
rebekah2011: Thanks. I am not sure what you disagree with though. In terms of disclosure, my average holding cost for UCAP is 77kobo. It constitute almost 10% of my portfolio. Mind you I don't like Tony Elumelu's companies! That said, when I am doing my valuation, I always discount extra ordinary income because such is not sustainable. Same applies to Dangote Flour. You need to discount the profit from the sales of their noodles section., 3 Likes |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Agbalowomeri: 3:32pm On Feb 17, 2018 |
OBAGADAFFI: These kain news have started trooping in to trap some other people. Long thing |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Agbalowomeri: 3:35pm On Feb 17, 2018 |
wanaj0: Unless you are calculating pre UBA-spin off prices As at today, no stock will give the dividend yield that UCAP and Afriprud will give 2 Likes |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Mpeace(m): 3:53pm On Feb 17, 2018 |
Agbalowomeri:never say never. Eterna will surely beat them. |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by onegentleguy: 3:55pm On Feb 17, 2018 |
Onuokwu: Now u are begining to ask the requisite shrewd questions. ...U did think in line with what one could term a lead up to the answer in one of ur post recently. ...maybe u could try digging it up my oga. ![]() ![]() I hope for ur sake, u join ' the United Army of Complete Nollywood'. ...try to buy the dip and then wait on Mr TIME to do his thing. ...'for there can be no better time to be a Nollywood star than now'. However, its always a matter of choice. NOTE: Onegentleguy has never been an actor himself. ...he is only been a Nollywood star albeit in a figurative way. This should'nt translate to mean an investment advise. DD always advised pls. |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by IchimokuPilot: 4:00pm On Feb 17, 2018 |
Agbalowomeri: Even if JAPAUL acquires CBN, without the COMPLETE REMOVAL of the entire management, it remains a SINK HOLE. ![]() As long as that boy JEGEDE is there, nothing positive will EVER come out of this JANET... ![]() Why the guy no come do offer again..... ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by 9free(m): 4:08pm On Feb 17, 2018 |
IchimokuPilot:Goodbye Chioma ![]() ![]() |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Zhirinovsky: 4:19pm On Feb 17, 2018 |
Yea, you are right. At the end of each week I always check to see what I have achieved within the week and when I see -4% of portfolio, I feel that I 'm in the wrong profession. Buy on the good days when I see +20% I feel like I am the only wise person on earth and others are in the wrong profession ![]() Toluway: |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Agbalowomeri: 4:22pm On Feb 17, 2018 |
Mpeace: Eterna have been making above N1 eps over two financial years and still haven't paid 50kobo. will it suddenly double it dividend this year? Not possible |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Agbalowomeri: 4:25pm On Feb 17, 2018 |
Zhirinovsky: Bros don't approach the stock market like that o otherwise you go wound. Give yourself 6monthly review unless you have mastered the TA acts. Even the TA experts cannot be doing weekly review to assess gain/loss 4 Likes |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Nobody: 4:29pm On Feb 17, 2018 |
Zhirinovsky: But 20% weekly is not realistic. We are talking of a thousand percent increase in a year. Since the bear started, I have kept my money in DS and havent made any reasonable return for two weeks which is okay by me. At least, if im not gaining, I'm not losing. |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by mendes911: 4:36pm On Feb 17, 2018 |
wanaj0: That was the year they made billions in foreign exchange loss and you wrote their management off. I remember only Bigjay01 had the guts to buy the stock at ₦12 then and it later moved aboved ₦80. |
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