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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 2:41pm On Feb 18, 2018
Pure lies.
Go and watch some of the highlights to see players hugging him after scoring, sometimes they all hug him after matches.
You of all people should have seen some of these clips on YouTube.

You don't go rejoicing with a coach that treats you badly.

The recent poor form of results are but the whole effect of the in-house fighing (mgt/coach).

tbaba1234:


The same players are against him today.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by asha80(m): 2:45pm On Feb 18, 2018
i think the strongest area in the super eagles of today is the defensive midfield

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 2:48pm On Feb 18, 2018
somehow:
Pure lies.
Go and watch some of the highlights to see players hugging him after scoring, sometimes they all hug him after matches.
You of all people should have seen some of these clips on YouTube.

You don't go rejoicing with a coach that treats you badly.

The recent poor form of results are but the whole effect of the in-house fighing (mgt/coach).


Oliseh himself is reported to have said that the management has turned the players against him in a recent interview.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 2:52pm On Feb 18, 2018
somehow:
Pure lies.
Go and watch some of the highlights to see players hugging him after scoring, sometimes they all hug him after matches.
You of all people should have seen some of these clips on YouTube.

You don't go rejoicing with a coach that treats you badly.

The recent poor form of results are but the whole effect of the in-house fighing (mgt/coach).


Celebrating a goal is a happy moment. Oliseh being a dictator does not mean, he is like that 24-7.

Oliseh:

“The Turkish owners also got the players to say they are unhappy with me.”

So the players are saying, they are unhappy with him.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 3:02pm On Feb 18, 2018
He said they turned players not currently having games against him. Let's be straight when giving information na.

http://www.brila.net/dont-want-go-jail-oliseh-exposes-shady-owners-fortuna-sittard/
tbaba1234:


Oliseh himself is reported to have said that the management has turned the players against him in a recent interview.

In some of my posts, I earlier stated that he had to drop some of the old legs in the team which actually helped the club achieve grateness. What do you then expect from the "big guys dictating before he came"?

In a video interview with Fox Sports Nertherlands, which was monitored by Completesportsnigeria.com, Oliseh stated that one of his players walked up to him after a defeat to expose nefarious plans of the club.

“Four weeks ago when we lost a game in FC Dordrecht one of my players called me to say he had to tell me something, that the club had presented a document to him to sign against me and that he refused,” Oliseh told Fox Sports Nertherlands.

“And I asked why, he replied ‘because they are building up a case against you, they are asking other players to sign’".

https://www.completesportsnigeria.com/oliseh-fortuna-sittard-turned-players-club-must-pay-off/

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 3:02pm On Feb 18, 2018
Uzoho kept another clean sheet today.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 3:04pm On Feb 18, 2018
One of the players came to tell him what the club MANAGEMENT was planning to make them do.

From some of of links I posted, it stated these players are mostly those not getting games under him.
tbaba1234:


Celebrating a goal is a happy moment. Oliseh being a dictator does not mean, he is like that 24-7.

Oliseh:

“The Turkish owners also got the players to say they are unhappy with me.”

So the players are saying, they are unhappy with him.

Celebration in the heat of scoring wouldn't make you hug your opponent right? So you think that will make them always run to hug him? People celebrate and Hadly hug those they don't naturally connect with.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 3:05pm On Feb 18, 2018
Team B right?
tbaba1234:
Uzoho kept another clean sheet today.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AIG07: 3:06pm On Feb 18, 2018
asha80:
dutch league like german and belgian leagues are an 18club league meaning a maximum of 34 matches can be played by a player per season unlike those based in england,france,italy and spain that all have 20club league(38 matches maximum)..also unlike in england they do not have their version of carabao cup as they only have the eredivisie(league) and their knvb cup(fa cup)..also unlike england they go on mid season break(usually 3-4 weeks)..then in the case of ebuehi his clube is not saddled with european engagements so the issue of fatigue does not arise.
thanks. The bolded answers my curiosity. The rest am aware of.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 3:09pm On Feb 18, 2018
somehow:
He said they turned players not currently having games against him. Let's be straight when giving information na.

http://www.brila.net/dont-want-go-jail-oliseh-exposes-shady-owners-fortuna-sittard/


In some of my posts, I earlier stated that he had to drop some of the old legs in the team which actually helped the club achieve grateness. What do you then expect from the "big guys dictating before he came"?

In a video interview with Fox Sports Nertherlands, which was monitored by Completesportsnigeria.com, Oliseh stated that one of his players walked up to him after a defeat to expose nefarious plans of the club.

“Four weeks ago when we lost a game in FC Dordrecht one of my players called me to say he had to tell me something, that the club had presented a document to him to sign against me and that he refused,” Oliseh told Fox Sports Nertherlands.

“And I asked why, he replied ‘because they are building up a case against you, they are asking other players to sign’".

https://www.completesportsnigeria.com/oliseh-fortuna-sittard-turned-players-club-must-pay-off/

That is a normal excuse though.

"The players are not turning against me, it is the management that is forcing them."

The fact that his behavior has been reported as far back as last year, to the point that he was described as a ticking time bomb is to me, very relevant. The accusations by the club are not coming out of the blue.

Players have been let go by coaches before, it happens all the time. In fact, it is expected that when a new coach comes in, he shakes things up.

No coach, i know has been fired for making these changes.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 3:13pm On Feb 18, 2018
somehow:
One of the players came to tell him what the club MANAGEMENT was planning to make them do.

From some of of links I posted, it stated these players are mostly those not getting games under him.

Celebration in the heat of scoring wouldn't make you hug your opponent right? So you think that will make them always run to hug him? People celebrate and Hadly hug those they don't naturally connect with.

The coach is not the opposition.

See, Oliseh's dealing with majorly young players without big egos. Players who are grateful for the opportunity to play in some cases.

Oliseh might be domineering but he is not their enemy.

Strangers hug each other when a goal is scored, much less a manager.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AIG07: 3:19pm On Feb 18, 2018
Cyril Dessers came off the bench @ 79th minute and picked up an assist for his team's 4th goal.

FT: Roda JC 1-4 Utrecht

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 3:19pm On Feb 18, 2018
You hug people around you in the heat of celebration not running meters away to the touchline just to hug the coach. Sometimes they don't even allow any other player celebrate with them until they get to him.

And after most matches, players come to hug him.

That he was vocal and had issues with some players in the SE as the coach doesn't mean he's 100% a timebom as he's being made to be. He was in the SE for years, a bad manner players would have been benched, chased out of the team and not being made the captain. You don't use a player you don't get along with as your captain (majorly)


All in all, if what he said is actually false, he will surely pay huge damages, that's if the management actually take the case to court.

What he said is no small thing and I expect him.to be taken to court if they are false.
tbaba1234:


The coach is not the opposition.

See, Oliseh's dealing with majorly young players without big egos. Players who are grateful for the opportunity to play in some cases.

Oliseh might be domineering but he is not their enemy.

Strangers hug each other when a goal is scored, much less a manager.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 3:23pm On Feb 18, 2018
somehow:
You hug people around you in the heat of celebration not running meters away to the touchline just to hug the coach. Sometimes they don't even allow any other player celebrate with them until they get to him.

And after most matches, players come to hug him.

That he was vocal and had issues with some players in the SE as the coach doesn't mean he's 100% a timebom as he's being made to be. He was in the SE for years, a bad manner players would have been benched, chased out of the team and not being made the captain. You don't use a player you don't get along with as your captain (majorly)


All in all, if what he said is actually false, he will surely pay huge damages, that's if the management actually take the case to court.

What he said is no small thing and I expect him.to be taken to court if they are false.

You realise that even in the Super Eagles, Oliseh did not exactly get along with everyone.

He should have followed the legal route instead of talking illegality on tweeter after he was fired. That just sounds like sour grapes.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by somehow: 3:29pm On Feb 18, 2018
Yes just like some players too. Not like it's peculiar to him alone, yet he was voted as the captain by his teammates.

Well he raised it, so let the club sue him if he's lying!

He has put his lawyers to work on his pay owed him by the club + that of his assistant (who isn't Nigerian)
tbaba1234:




You realise that even in the Super Eagles, Oliseh did not exactly get along with everyone.

He should have followed the legal route instead of talking illegality on tweeter after he was fired. That just sounds like sour grapes.
They can as well sue him so he doesn't get a dime owed him while clearing their names. Win win for the club!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by joseph1013: 3:44pm On Feb 18, 2018
Mickael2:



it baffles me that people are even keying into that rubbish. I mean this was the same Oliseh that took a bunch of unknowns to the top of the league,winning almost all their games at home, if that does not mean that the players are behind their coach I wonder what is. Then Oliseh is sacked and they lost(AT HOME) to a team that they should have defeated handsomely, if that is not the players voicing out their disappointment I wonder what is.

Fortuna Sittard is a local team and most of the top guys want their kids playing for the first team, and this was why Oliseh was sacked

I'm big believer in Oliseh. Long before he got the Eagles job, I had wanted him. While I did not believe in the superstitious stories during his Eagles campaign, I still believed the end would have justified the means if he is still at the helm of affairs today.

But there comes a time when you have to realize that talent is not enough. If you do not have human relations skills, you can only go so far in life. It is said that technical skills will get you into a job, but your ability to work in a group will determine your length of stay.

Even if Sittard suspended him unfairly, there is a way to leave the job respectfully and professionally, in such a way that other clubs would find you attractive. You cannot go accusing a club about engaging in illegal deals on social media. What in the world! What message does that send to other clubs. It does not just have the potential to hurt him, it has the potential to have hurt other upcoming black coaches.

He was a hothead during his playing days. He was a hothead during the Eagles campaign. He has left a sour taste in the mouth of the owner of his last job.

If everywhere you go, you are seen as problematic, believe me, the problem is not with the world. Perhaps you should just look at the mirror to see where the problem lies.

Oliseh should go for help. He is a brilliant tactician, no doubt, but he needs to learn how to work with people.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 3:56pm On Feb 18, 2018
Starting to think the Turkish owners st Sittard were looking for a way to get rid of Oliseh and unfortunately Oliseh fell into their trap. The getting players to sign a contract thing could be true. Maybe the Turkish owners were afraid of fan backlash if they just sacked him outrightly.
Despite the rumors of Oliseh being dictatorial in the past, we had articles way people who criticized him eventually admitting that his style of doing things was responsible for their great performances.
So yeah...those owners might be shady

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by oloriooko(m): 4:27pm On Feb 18, 2018
This Oliseh issue is twisted:
1. A guy picks up a team from the relegation Waters and took them to the top of the table.
2. The managent alleged he lacked proper man management but this does not add up. How can a man take a team from relegation to table top without good man management?
The management is hiding a dirty secret and in this case I think Oliseh was unjustly sacked.
The people blaming Oliseh which I initially did too are all wrong cuz a guy with.such achievement with same players who played the team into relegation must have been a good man manager and tactician.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 4:42pm On Feb 18, 2018
oloriooko:
This Oliseh issue is twisted:
1. A guy picks up a team from the relegation Waters and took them to the top of the table.
2. The managent alleged he lacked proper man management but this does not add up. How can a man take a team from relegation to table top without good man management?
The management is hiding a dirty secret and in this case I think Oliseh was unjustly sacked.
The people blaming Oliseh which I initially did too are all wrong cuz a guy with.such achievement with same players who played the team into relegation must have been a good man manager and tactician.

Oliseh's attitude was recorded last year even when the team escaped relegation. At that time, it was called a ticking time bomb. It did not come out of the blue.

Even when he was succeeding, concerns were raised about his character.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elyte89: 4:52pm On Feb 18, 2018
Oliseh shld check himself and also his style of leadership, everywhere he goes, he keeps having issues,all he needs to do is to be humble,and a he can b a "ZIDANE" IN a nearest future wink
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by realpoacher(m): 4:53pm On Feb 18, 2018
krattoss:
who is watching torino vs juventus. .
Joel obi walks into the starting 11..

hope rohr gives him benefit of the doubt..

Stop this statement!... Joel Obi can get injured on the plane to Russia.

You don't place your hope on a player with a plastic leg angry

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 4:54pm On Feb 18, 2018
NPFL updates....


Yobe desert stars,Heartland, Niger Tornadoes and Abia Warriors have been told to find an alternative venue for their next two home games... they have two weeks to fix their stadium pitch which is in very terrible shape..

Sunshine stars meanwhile have 3 points deducted from them for improper conduct in their last home game...

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 4:55pm On Feb 18, 2018
realpoacher:


Stop this statement!... Joel Obi can get injured on the plane to Russia.

You don't place your hope on a player with a plastic leg angry



LMAO .. You are kind of right though....I honestly don't see him making the team to Russia...
If Rohr really rates him,he would have handed him a callup earlier on even when he was fit..

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 5:09pm On Feb 18, 2018
Ajagun with an assist

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 5:12pm On Feb 18, 2018
Afobear:
See people the consider Isaac and Sadiq��I no fit laugh ...una be comedy Central ....if any of the make the team ,make Irene my bae leave me follow skaps the Gboi

It's very easy for Isaac Success to make the world camp cup if he does well in la Liga.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 5:13pm On Feb 18, 2018
ChrisKels:


Those rants really pissed me off when I read them, it was there and then I was convinced fully, that, that boy is a true waste man. A very big disappointment to Nigeria football

Make una take am easy with the boy, na. Shor!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 5:20pm On Feb 18, 2018
Kog45:
Bro pls let's talk football the way it's cos i don't know why we always saying Rohr love some or are we saying Rohr hate some.

Pls i want to tell you that as it now we have good players who are better than Isaac Success or do you think this present Eagles na moimoi,it will take a very serious footballer to make the team not Sucesss types who love partying,running around prostitutes.

Ighalo and Success? this arguments came up sometimes ago and after thorough research i realized a lot still rate Success with U 17 glory.

Success talent not in doubt just like Etim Esin then who was even far better but what come out of Etim's career was a disaster,so he should learn from example and make life meaningful for himself not even us cos time is everything,better footballers are springing up everyday.

My man Ighalo is better than Success, goal scoring,pace and what they bring to the team generally though Success is very skillful and on the ball damn cool.

Modified... Strongest doesn't do it,hope you know Akinfewa one of the strongest footballer in the world and mind you will all rate Success based on his talent not on his power.

Success is now a winger.

Who will you choose, Isaac Success, Moses Simon or Henry Onyekuru, if Success is fit? grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Abusule007: 5:20pm On Feb 18, 2018
andrew444:


Dat 1 go be if person pay full package.
Not necessarily full package. Even if you're on the 6,500 naira subscription i think that's compact. It's still there.
I don't know about subscription below that sha

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 5:27pm On Feb 18, 2018
Cameroon-1 vs Nigeria-1 in Yaounde....
The Flamingos are on d brink of missing out on the world cup for d first time..
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by zoboizee: 5:27pm On Feb 18, 2018
forgiveness:


Success is now a winger.

Who will you choose, Isaac Success, Moses Simon or Henry Onyekuru, if Success is fit? grin

Our world cup team is as highly predictable as my list below barring injury or loss of form to our key players. The coach oftentimes work with same players so as to attain high team chemistry.

Goalkeepers
1. Daniel Akpeyi
2. Ikechukwu Ezenwa
3. Francis Uzoho

Defenders
4. Leon Balogun
5. William Troost-Ekong
6. Chidozie Awaziem
7. Kenneth Omeruo
8. Elderson Echiejile
9. Shehu Abdullahi
10. Bryan Idowu
11. Tyrone Ebuehi/Ola Aina

Midfielders
12. Victor Moses
13. Oyinye Ndidi
14. Ogenyi Onazi
15. Oghenekaro Etebo
16. Alex Iwobi
17. Joel Obi
18. Moses Simon
19. Mikel Obi
20. John Ogu/Mikel Agu

Attackers
21. Ahmed Musa
22.  Odion Ighalo
23. Kelechi Iheanacho
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 5:32pm On Feb 18, 2018
TheGoodJoe:


I have sang this for too long. A player can be good and left out of the team. So, position in club is not a good criteria for judging talent.

Just like Osimhen, Alampasu, K. Nwakali etc.

This article highlights a clear case.

The examples you give are not tenable and a very poor comparison, these are players who are relying essentially on past youth glories. Have not done much in the game.

Hope is a full fledged Nigerian international played a full season in the EPL before Reading was relegated.

Has continued to play in the Championship and was clearly unfairly treated. To see a club admitting they have been unfair to a player is VERY RARE indeed. It says it must have been very bad indeed.

In addition I noticed that nobody has called for his inclusion considering he had a good outing for the SE before being injured. But we have unproven even overweight players being clamoured for.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 5:32pm On Feb 18, 2018
Late drama in Yaounde: Nigeria had goal disallowed to the shock of many and the fans. Still 1-1 as the all await the final whistle # FIFAU17WWCQ
#CMRNGA

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