mufutau55:


You can say that again o... if you say ready to mix cement fine, but self leveling cement? How?

Hajji M.

There is actually a self-leveling Cement (maybe not exacty our usual cement).

It has to do with the dense properties (I know we have all seen how Custard does, when you mix a little water with it in a bowl....it will level-out and adapt to the shape of the bowl. It is the best comparison l can think of) of the product.

I think it is mostly used in water-proofing of floors, where l have seen it before.

adanny01:


After watching the video, i agree this cement will self level. It does that because of high viscosity just like custard powder would level itself after poking it with a finger.

Just saw your comment now.
Seems l was repeating what you already said.

ice4u999:


May be you should try hanging out with me because that might change your mind a little bit and keep you longer than 2 weeks in Nigeria.
For me Naija is my own get away from all the stress oversea. I spend nothing less than 1 month when ever I am in Nigeria and a minimum of 2 trips on a good year.

The best place to invest is Nigeria. I know people that uses money made from rental properties in Nigeria to pay their mortgages in Canada.

As for me o because my family is still young, they spend a minimum of 3 months yearly in Nigeria and if I give them chance they will spend 1 year in Nigeria and 3 months overseas or even move completely to Naija.

Three Gboosa, to this "Ma-Nigga".
If you really have the Cash (as in 'not struggling' to belong), Nigeria is the place to be.
Over here, everything has a Price!
As long as you have the money, everything (as in EVERYTHING!) is for sale.

And you know what that means, if you are really loaded.

Like Bernanche will say, 'The higher the Risk, the Bigger the Returns'.
That is the best part about Nigeria.

How much can I use to fix water collector in my chicken piller house , any idea pleas ?

MODALSOUL1:
your plan would make more sense Horizontally . master bedrooms are ideal at the back . The two bedrooms on the right side are ideal on the left . In any case, I always see bungalows as a waste of space . What does it cost to dig just one more feet and go higher? that's why the Japanese and even Chinese are smart. on that piece of land they could build a 7 storey.
The building below is in a small rapidly developing town in Germany. it measures 50 feet by 60 feet and has only stairs and no elevator . it contains 3 bedroom apartments .
I think the Nigerian government should enact a law encouraging 5 storey and above . even if you have no money at least lay the foundation . government should lend money to complete .
Even if an individual is building a private residence, doesn't it just make more sense to build nothing less than a duplex? My opinion ,Brother

Where in Germany is this building located? It's almost unthinkable to high rise buildings more than 3 floors without a lift in Germany, unless it is an old renovated building

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Daboomb:


Three Gboosa, to this "Ma-Nigga".
If you really have the Cash (as in 'not struggling' to belong), Nigeria is the place to be.
Over here, everything has a Price!
As long as you have the money, everything (as in EVERYTHING!) is for sale.

And you know what that means, if you are really loaded.

Like Bernanche will say, 'The higher the Risk, the Bigger the Returns'.
That is the best part about Nigeria.

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Actually Nigeria is where people who are struggling in diaspora go to feel important because of the exchange rate. No one comfortable abroad is contemplating moving to Nigeria. Some move after retirement to get more bang fpr their buck. They still run back overseas once in a while to cool off and for medical check ups. Quote me any day.

Not trying to rain on anyone's parade. Nigeria is a third world country where things taken for granted like good roads, electricity, clean water, etc become big deals. With very high unemployment rate, how can one say Nigeria is close to El Dorado? Even if you are comfortable, the level of poverty and suffering around could be depressing and unsettling. No man is an island.

"Everything has a price" is not the hallmark of a decent society. The price you are willing to pay, someone will be willing to pay more. That breeds anarchy, oppression and insecurity. It is illegal to possess assault rifle but herdsmen are fully strapped with AK-47 because everything has a price. Engaging a Nigerian in a debate will usually end up about money. Money is here and will always be after we die. Do you still wonder why Nigeria is a sh!thole and the citizens are regarded as almost worthless in every other country?
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InvertedHammer:


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Actually Nigeria is where people who are struggling in diaspora go to feel important because of the exchange rate. No one comfortable abroad is contemplating moving to Nigeria. Some move after retirement to get more bang fpr their buck. They still run back overseas once in a while to cool off and for medical check ups. Quote me any day.

Not trying to rain on anyone's parade. Nigeria is a third world country where things taken for granted like good roads, electricity, clean water, etc become big deals. With very high unemployment rate, how can one say Nigeria is close to El Dorado? Even if you are comfortable, the level of poverty and suffering around could be depressing and unsettling. No man is an island.

"Everything has a price" is not the hallmark of a decent society. The price you are willing to pay, someone will be willing to pay more. That breeds anarchy, oppression and insecurity. It is illegal to possess assault rifle but herdsmen are fully strapped with AK-47 because everything has a price. Engaging a Nigerian in a debate will usually end up about money. Money is here and will always be after we die. Do you still wonder why Nigeria is a sh!thole and the citizens are regarded as almost worthless in every other country?
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Succinctly put my man. God bless you.

I was watching a video this morning about two policemen fighting a lady and her husband. In fact, policemen with AK-47 throwing rocks at husband and wife. Nigeria is nothing but shithole. I'm coming there to spend two weeks there next month with a whole lot of caution. Each time I think about visiting that country, I keep asking myself if I'm going to make it back to the US. I find that feeling worrisome. It shouldn't be but it is what it is. I just built a house there with the hope of visiting to relax twice a year, but my last experience of last year got me questioning the rationale behind the decision to build in a lawless nation as Nigeria. I saw unruly and lawless society during my last visit. Imagine drivers driving back on a one way bridge just because they encountered logjam. My brother was driving and these mescreants called Lasma stopped us and I was wondering why they stopped us, the next thing one of them said was to challenge me for a fight because in his warped mind, I was looking at him somehow. I was laughing in the car like never before. I don't see myself functioning in that society again. There is no place without dust. The so called rich man neighborhoods are nothing to write home about. Open gutters everywhere. This reminds me about one Igbo man lamenting while my flight was preparing to land at Ikeja airport. The man left Nigeria as a teenager like me and was visiting Nigeria for the first time in 23 years. He was asking loudly if Frankfurt, Germany we left seven hours ago wasn't occupied by human beings just as Lagos. The man was asking why the entire area was all red mud and dust. Looking down, the whole area was horribly muddy and dusty. Whereas Frankfurt we just left was all green and leafy. Aren't our politicians visiting Western nations? Go to common south Africa and see orderliness.

I've been sick lately and the medical attention I got was second to none. I was supposed to travel to Nigeria on Dec 28 but I had to cancel. But my sickness became worse by early January and ended up in a ambulance at 1am taken to the emergency room. I was thinking this could have killed me if I had travel to Nigeria on Dec 28. Would I have been able to get good care if I had fallen ill while in Nigeria? All that was going through my mind.

Other than good African dishes and pretty naija women, there is nothing else that appeals to me in Nigeria. Absolutely nothing......

I'm here now and never going to live in a lawless country.

MODALSOUL1:
It's a small village , very small town now witnessing rapid development, I forgot the name of the town

How then, did you come about the photo of the house? The name of the small town should be included in the source of the picture

InvertedHammer:


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Actually Nigeria is where people who are struggling in diaspora go to feel important because of the exchange rate. No one comfortable abroad is contemplating moving to Nigeria. Some move after retirement to get more bang fpr their buck. They still run back overseas once in a while to cool off and for medical check ups. Quote me any day.

Not trying to rain on anyone's parade. Nigeria is a third world country where things taken for granted like good roads, electricity, clean water, etc become big deals. With very high unemployment rate, how can one say Nigeria is close to El Dorado? Even if you are comfortable, the level of poverty and suffering around could be depressing and unsettling. No man is an island.

"Everything has a price" is not the hallmark of a decent society. The price you are willing to pay, someone will be willing to pay more. That breeds anarchy, oppression and insecurity. It is illegal to possess assault rifle but herdsmen are fully strapped with AK-47 because everything has a price. Engaging a Nigerian in a debate will usually end up about money. Money is here and will always be after we die. Do you still wonder why Nigeria is a sh!thole and the citizens are regarded as almost worthless in every other country?
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Guy, here in Alberta in Canada, Nigerians are respected and not seen as worthless. We are in every sector you can think of in this place and we walk around with our chest up. Feel free to confirm from any Nigerian living here except the lazy ones.

The truth be told only Nigerians suffering oversea always tell people and give reasons why others should not visit Nigeria.

No struggling Nigerian oversea can live a good life in Nigeria because you will do everything to make sure you enjoy the same amenities you enjoy oversea.

"Conversations with Nigerians always end with money," guy without money, how do you expect to pay your bills oversea, give your kids the best education, build a retirement home in Nigeria, enjoy the best vacations or like me eat better Nigerian food and visit the best night outs joints in Nigeria (with my wife) . Look we all work very hard and will invest in whatever place that will yield a better return and it is your choice what ever you do with your money.

Yes, the country is full of challenges but how is our complaining going to help if we don't do our part to help the country.

A friend of mine, a graduate from Harvard owe a big mechanic shop in Lagos. Trust me he makes enough to sustain his family and himself. If you must know the shoprite if I am correct at lekki came to be by young Nigerians that schooled oversea but came back to make a difference in Nigeria. To survive and make it in Nigeria requires better brain and you must think wide and fast.

The same Africa Trump called a shit hole was the same place he said his friends are making a lot of money.

Like I said before, meet the right people in Nigeria and I bet you, the way you see the country will change.

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mufutau55:


I think the decking cost alone will crush the cost difference of the 3000 square feet. Too many factors in building duplex.
It's a matter of choice though and lack of land space.

Hajji M.

I doubt it Sir. But I use Ibadan calculations not una lofty Lekki/Ajjah prices

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This show has some nicely finished interiors.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jVnRLZXCn0

ice4u999:



Guy, here in Alberta in Canada, Nigerians are respected and not seen as worthless. We are in every sector you can think of in this place and we walk around with our chest up. Feel free to confirm from any Nigerian living here except the lazy ones.

The truth be told only Nigerians suffering oversea always tell people and give reasons why others should not visit Nigeria.

No struggling Nigerian oversea can live a good life in Nigeria because you will do everything to make sure you enjoy the same amenities you enjoy oversea.

"Conversations with Nigerians always end with money," guy without money, how do you expect to pay your bills oversea, give your kids the best education, build a retirement home in Nigeria, enjoy the best vacations or like me eat better Nigerian food and visit the best night outs joints in Nigeria (with my wife) . Look we all work very hard and will invest in whatever place that will yield a better return and it is your choice what ever you do with your money.

Yes, the country is full of challenges but how is our complaining going to help if we don't do our part to help the country.

A friend of mine, a graduate from Harvard owe a big mechanic shop in Lagos. Trust me he makes enough to sustain his family and himself. If you must know the shoprite if I am correct at lekki came to be by young Nigerians that schooled oversea but came back to make a difference in Nigeria. To survive and make it in Nigeria requires better brain and you must think wide and fast.

The same Africa Trump called a shit hole was the same place he said his friends are making a lot of money.

Like I said before, meet the right people in Nigeria and I bet you, the way you see the country will change.

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Acknowledging a problem is the first step in finding the solution.

Who said Nigerians are not in many sectors overseas?

Why would those people file for citizenship and would rather travel with Canadian passport?

A few that moved back to Lagos are outliers. Don't use them as the yardstick to measure progress in Nigeria.

Of course, Okorocha, Sarki wards will move back to Nigeria where the ground is already watered for them.

What is the experience of an average Nigerian graduate in Nigeria? I am glad the mentioned that you saw them around the Lekki axis.

Heck! There are Nigerian rich kids on Instagram. Are those whom you will use to measure the lives of a typical Nigerian?

You are living in fantasy world. Like I always say, suit yourself. MMIA is always ready to welcome us.

What are you still doing in Canada?

Let's get back to discussing real estate matter a beg.

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InvertedHammer:


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Acknowledging a problem is the first step in finding the solution.

Who said Nigerians are not in many sectors overseas?

Why would those people file for citizenship and would rather travel with Canadian passport?

A few that moved back to Lagos are outliers. Don't use them as the yardstick to measure progress in Nigeria.

Of course, Okorocha, Sarki wards will move back to Nigeria where the ground is already watered for them.

What is the experience of an average Nigerian graduate in Nigeria? I am glad the mentioned that you saw them around the Lekki axis.

Heck! There are Nigerian rich kids on Instagram. Are those whom you will use to measure the lives of a typical Nigerian?

You are living in fantasy world. Like I always say, suit yourself. MMIA is always ready to welcome us.

What are you still doing in Canada?

Let's get back to discussing real estate matter a beg.

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1. You asked why invest in a country like Nigeria
2. How can one call living in oversea stressful and then see Nigeria as a place to get away
3. All Nigerians always conclude every conversation with money
4. Only struggling Nigerians vacation in Nigeria to show off
5. What are you still doing in Canada? Guy I love money and like I told you earlier on, show me where the money is and I will be there. Nigeria and Canada is my home and I will rock my God given opportunity. News flash I can make money in Canada, triple it in Nigeria, pay my taxes in Nigeria and invest more, move 50 % back to Canada to take of all bills and then spend the rest enjoying myself.

I guess your next question will be why is chevron or ExxonMobil still in Nigeria Or why Dangote built a cement plant in Cameroon or why otedola have properties overseas or why Uber came to Nigeria?

Anyway how building matter they go now?

adeyanwale5:
this is the plan and measurement of my propose building

pls i want to know the total number of blocks, cements, sand and gravel required


strip foundation is what i have chosen

pls i really need the estimate.

THANKS

@adeyanwale5

why ask EgunMogaji for the quote when this was a free design I did for people on NL - offcourse you're free to use it, but respect my works enough to ask me for more details if u need it.... most NL wld confirm i've offered such services for free.

BTW: You dont need an estimate, just read the post where you got the design from, i broke down major cost there.

@Rubbiish, thanks man - you're a great guy..

adeyanwale5 see >> https://www.nairaland.com/3523256/how-build-comfortable-house-earning and https://www.nairaland.com/4191428/how-calculate-how-many-blocks

for your answers

Lets be honest with ourselves abeg, there isn't any way we gonna move this country forward without starting from the truth...What fastshipping & invertedhammer said is nothing but the gospel truth.
There is no gainsaying considerable number of nigerians re regarded as almost worthless in every other country, go to US, CANADA, AUSTRALIA embassy to see the number of nigeria citizens dying to travel out? How many southafricans do we see struggling to come to nigeria? Let alone US or germany citizens? For a country to be described as sh!thole should bespeak the state of things. I wake up every morning asking God why he made me a citizen of this lawless & hopeless country...it is that bad! Most of us wouldn't have been able to build a store if not for the fact we traveled to another man's land & u call that a country!

edited:

abdulwastecx - the dimension you gave above on the 3 bedroom for adeyanwale5 wld NOT work for them, I know this because its a design I did..

except you have plans to modify it....... also the drawings are in meters/milimeters not feet....


cc: Rubbiish

MODALSOUL1:
your plan would make more sense Horizontally . master bedrooms are ideal at the back . The two bedrooms on the right side are ideal on the left . In any case, I always see bungalows as a waste of space . What does it cost to dig just one more feet and go higher? that's why the Japanese and even Chinese are smart. on that piece of land they could build a 7 storey.
The building below is in a small rapidly developing town in Germany. it measures 50 feet by 60 feet and has only stairs and no elevator . it contains 3 bedroom apartments .
I think the Nigerian government should enact a law encouraging 5 storey and above . even if you have no money at least lay the foundation . government should lend money to complete .
Even if an individual is building a private residence, doesn't it just make more sense to build nothing less than a duplex? My opinion ,Brother

This post mirrors what is happening in the south east and south south, I tthink it's a lack of lands and a ballooning population that is driving this culture of building upwards since the early 80s. In most urban cities like Onitsha, PH, Enugu, Aba, Owerri and Asaba, houses are rising higher than 4 floors.

An old neighbourhood in Onitsha.

It was not about any government legislation, the people are reacting to acute shortages in accommodation. Pure old demand and supply laws working itself out. But the government needs to step up with the environment, the roads needs to be looked into and those ugly looking open drains closed.

1. What's the likely cost of fitting a small elevator (say 1.2 metres sq) in a house with 5 floors in Nigeria?

2. Which are the leading companies in elevator installation and maintenance in Nigeria?

I just want to understand why the use of elevators is not widespread in the country.

spyder880:
1. What's the likely cost of fitting a small elevator (say 1.2 metres sq) in a house with 5 floors in Nigeria?

2. Which are the leading companies in elevator installation and maintenance in Nigeria?

I just want to understand why the use of elevators is not widespread in the country.

constant electricity is a major reason.

if you cant keep the gen on for 24hrs, you don't consider using a lift - that is an outrageous cost in a public residential / low cost apartment.

spyder880:
1. What's the likely cost of fitting a small elevator (say 1.2 metres sq) in a house with 5 floors in Nigeria?

2. Which are the leading companies in elevator installation and maintenance in Nigeria?

I just want to understand why the use of elevators is not widespread in the country.

Otis Elevators with CFAO as distributors:
http://www.otisworldwide.com/site/fr/Pages/Nigeria.aspx

And Thyssenkrupp with JMG Ltd as distributors.

Elevator in residential in Nigeria is a tough challenge due to maintenance culture. Elevators are death traps if not well maintained. So for residential, cost is a factor.

For businesses premises, lifts and elevators are widespread in Nigeria.

spyder880:
1. What's the likely cost of fitting a small elevator (say 1.2 metres sq) in a house with 5 floors in Nigeria?

2. Which are the leading companies in elevator installation and maintenance in Nigeria?

I just want to understand why the use of elevators is not widespread in the country.

It's the question that's been on my mind since last year. I visited an office in an old part of Delhi and was unhappy at the thought of climbing up four flights. I was pleasantly surprised to find that a small lift took us up. It was functional and got me wondering why we don't have such lifts all around us. Our educational and other institutional buildings being built today lack even the most basic lift.If it's because the established dealers' profit margins are too high then there's room for new entrants providing functional lifts and services for far lower costs.

spyder880:
1. What's the likely cost of fitting a small elevator (say 1.2 metres sq) in a house with 5 floors in Nigeria?

2. Which are the leading companies in elevator installation and maintenance in Nigeria?

I just want to understand why the use of elevators is not widespread in the country.

Electricity, or lack thereof, is the major bane. Most who can afford a multi storey house can as well spare some few more millions, but no be nepa person go rely.

FastShipping:


Succinctly put my man. God bless you.

I was watching a video this morning about two policemen fighting a lady and her husband. In fact, policemen with AK-47 throwing rocks at husband and wife. Nigeria is nothing but shithole. I'm coming there to spend two weeks there next month with a whole lot of caution. Each time I think about visiting that country, I keep asking myself if I'm going to make it back to the US. I find that feeling worrisome. It shouldn't be but it is what it is. I just built a house there with the hope of visiting to relax twice a year, but my last experience of last year got me questioning the rationale behind the decision to build in a lawless nation as Nigeria. I saw unruly and lawless society during my last visit. Imagine drivers driving back on a one way bridge just because they encountered logjam. My brother was driving and these mescreants called Lasma stopped us and I was wondering why they stopped us, the next thing one of them said was to challenge me for a fight because in his warped mind, I was looking at him somehow. I was laughing in the car like never before. I don't see myself functioning in that society again. There is no place without dust. The so called rich man neighborhoods are nothing to write home about. Open gutters everywhere. This reminds me about one Igbo man lamenting while my flight was preparing to land at Ikeja airport. The man left Nigeria as a teenager like me and was visiting Nigeria for the first time in 23 years. He was asking loudly if Frankfurt, Germany we left seven hours ago wasn't occupied by human beings just as Lagos. The man was asking why the entire area was all red mud and dust. Looking down, the whole area was horribly muddy and dusty. Whereas Frankfurt we just left was all green and leafy. Aren't our politicians visiting Western nations? Go to common south Africa and see orderliness.

I've been sick lately and the medical attention I got was second to none. I was supposed to travel to Nigeria on Dec 28 but I had to cancel. But my sickness became worse by early January and ended up in a ambulance at 1am taken to the emergency room. I was thinking this could have killed me if I had travel to Nigeria on Dec 28. Would I have been able to get good care if I had fallen ill while in Nigeria? All that was going through my mind.

Other than good African dishes and pretty naija women, there is nothing else that appeals to me in Nigeria. Absolutely nothing......

I'm here now and never going to live in a lawless country.

I am happy that so many people are expressing the same view and opinions l often say concerning the nation called Nigeria, it is not about making money or investment, people like Dangote, Otedola and other celebrities pay so much money for their personal security, first class medical facilities within and outside Nigeria incase of emergency but here in the useless jungle called shithole by Trump it is a big luxury,


I was in Nigeria in 2012/2013, I was in my friends house in lagos just to maintain a low profile for my personal security and safety to avoid undue attention, he was living in a one story building and there was a nearby clinic next to the building, l, personally witnessed from my window about 3pregnant women died in that slaughter house called clinic due to the shabby infrastructure in the clinic, the clinic had a guy as a doctor who was more like a tout to me, another woman gave birth and no oxygen, I watched from the window of my friends house, l couldn't stomach it, I rushed down, called the doctor and I drove the doctor with the newborn wrapped in his hands and we rushed the baby to a first class clinic and immediately they placed the baby in their oxygen and I was with the doctor and other doctors did their best and the baby survived, I drove them back to their clinic and they stabilise the mother of the new born and they discharged them, with all humility I was the live saver of the baby because the so called clinic had no vehicle to convey the newborn to were we drove them to, I, wonder how many of such cases we have all over the jungle.


Secondly, World poverty dot com officially declared Nigeria as having the poorest people in the world, over 82million Nigeria are said to be poor and can't afford one dollar fifty cent to feed, when you have such statistics coming from international organizations then there is real concern to me,


l, know of few Nigerians who arrived and get killed by robbers, kidnappers and hoodlums because of the serious insecurity in the land, whenever I am visiting Nigeria, l am scared, I feel safer outside Nigeria than in Nigeria, l have vacationed in several countries but my experience in Dubai was fantastic, the security iin Dubai is amazing, you can't commit any crime in Dubai and go free, my friend lives at Burjkhalifa and has several businesses in Dubai, he left Canada to Nigeria and was almost killed before he relocated to Dubai to establish chains of businesses, my point is every indices that guarantees the basic necessities to live as a human being is missing in Nigeria.

l am also worried about settling in Nigeria in future, I prefer to live in a safer zone with limited cash than have billions of dollars and still be scared of living in Nigeria, Nigeria, in my opinion is beyond redemption

MODALSOUL1:
It's a small village , very small town now witnessing rapid development, I forgot the name of the town

It is a Law in Germany that any House that has more than two floors must (Emphasis on must) have a lift

desiji:
It is a Law in Germany that any House that has more than two floors must (Emphasis on must) have a lift

Thanks, that's why I asked him specifically where in Germany he saw the building. Older houses built almost a century ago may not have lifts, but then, they rarely go beyond 2 or 3 floors